Do not use a punch and go thru that spot in the camshaft pulse plate to get the phasers off, the bolts for the phasers are usually tight asf and you’ll just snap the key way off. Literally am losing on a job cause I did it the way these guys did it. Use a wrench in the camshaft as leverage to break the phaser bolts loose. Simple as that. Save urself the trouble from me learning the hard way
quick question, specifically for accord or crv with the Earthdreams 2.4 engine, when replacing the Cam Chain Tensioner, do i need to apply any tension to the chain guide, so it doesnt slack off? or there wouldnt be enough slack to worry about when replacing the cam chain tensioner (2013-2017 accord) and (crv 15-16 + ) thank you
I wonder how long the original chain set will go in a 2006 awd automatic - I am/ was considering, buying a element that has already had the drive line done. this car has very close to 250,000 miles on it. it is really nice though. The seller wants quite a bit for this car because it does look really nice so I am torn on the purchase with this many miles. I hope I can see an answer on here so I will be checking back on this EXCELLENTLY Done video. Thanks even if you cannot help. The video has cleared up many questions.
Thanks for the kind words. Timing system lifespan is directly related to engine maintenance and driving style. If the oil was changed frequently and the car was driven conservatively then there is likely no reason to worry about the chain. I just recommend listening to the car at a warm idle, and preferably at cold startup to listen for any chain rattle. Once the chain reaches its fatigue life, it will typically give you some warning especially in low oil pressure situations. Sometimes it will even trip the check engine light for cam to crank correlation issues.
@@Cloyes01 my 2010 Acura tsx gave me check engine light for the camshaft sensors I put new sensors and crankshaft sensors car started up and Ran , I went to auto zone got a diagnostic on it and they told me the timing chain was loose I go home park my car and next morning car will not start that’s gotta be the timing chain? . The car
If it seems like my camshafts are about a tooth or 2 off while the crankshaft is aligned correctly, do I leave the crankshaft where it is and then rotate the camshafts so they align at TDC? I just purchased your kit and I’m a bit confused on this part.
It will likely be easier to move the crankshaft to help align the cam sprocket marks. The camshafts will be up against valve spring pressure if you try to turn them. Just remember, the chain sets the timing. If your 3 marks are all aligned properly then the engine will be in time. The shafts do not need to be in any static locations, small adjustments can be made to help align the marks. Just make sure the marks are correct when you are done.
1. USE THE ALTERNATELY-COLORED CHAIN LINKS AND SPROCKET ALIGNMENT MARKS. You won't get the engine in time unless you do. I spent an evening banging my head against the wall because this didn't occur to me. 2. Once the timing components are installed, before you put the harmonic balancer, timing cover and valve covers back on the engine block, it doesn't hurt to remove the spark plugs and turn the engine by hand to be absolutely certain it is in correct timing. If you made a mistake such that a valve impacts a piston, this is a better time and means of discovering that than cranking the starter with everything re-attached.
The camshaft phaser should be locked when you disassemble the engine. You can make sure it is in the locked position by rotating the camshaft slightly and observing the phaser teeth. Make sure the phaser teeth and camshaft both move as one unit.
@@Cloyes01, just watched videos about that and I believe its unlock state is stronger than the locked one. Because when locked, full tenaion goes through the locking pin, while in unlocked position-the tension is distributed on all contact surface between the vanes.
Need an inch-pounds torque wrench. Most go to 250 INCH-lbs, divide by 12 to get Foot-lbs. 240 in-lbs / 12 = 20 ft-lbs. Usually they are 3/8 inch square drive. Stay gold.
You didn't go back to lock the actuator gear. When should this be done? After bolting it onto the camshaft, or after the chain is installed, aligned and guides and tensioner installed/activated?
In most all cases, the VVT actuator should already be in the locked position. We reused the original actuator so it was already locked. If you are installing an unlocked phaser, just make sure it is locked before you start the engine for the first time. The only reason that the phaser being locked/unlocked matters is that you do not want to torque a locked phaser when holding it by the sprocket teeth. The phaser can be locked during torqueing, but you need to hold the hex feature of the camshaft while tightening the bolt to prevent damage to the internal locking pin.
@@Cloyes01I offered mechanic works for dealer side job 150$ just labor !! Is that fair I want to save but not enslave !!What do you think my offer to him ? Not enough?
I see you turned the exhaust cam to get the exhaust timing mark in the chain correctly but that moved the two dash marks that oppose each other on the two cam sprockets. Are they not important to have them aligned at the end of the installation.
Ultimately the chain sets the timing. Focus primarily on aligning the marked chain links to the marks on the sprockets. When you are finished, all three shafts could be rotated slightly clockwise or counterclockwise, so your cam marks may not align in the middle. But you will be able to rotate the engine and make those marks realign.
Hi guys . Just in case my motor is off by a tooth . Which I doubt it is . But let’s say it was . Can I put my camshafts at TDC using the crank , remove the chain and then line up crank at TDC ?
Yes, you can make small adjustments to the shafts once the chain is off to get the new chain to align. Just keep in mind piston to valve contact is possible if you have a valve open, make small adjustments by hand and do not force anything.
You cannot loosen the Intake cam bolt by pining the phaser plate it shears the locating tab on the phaser plate. The bolt is TIGHT and has to be loosened by holding the hex on the cam. If not removing camshaft the bolt can be heated with a heat induction tool. Your way cost me extra money and time waiting for a part I would not have needed if done the correct way the first time. VERY POOR INFORMATION FROM A TECH REP.
Yes you can. The balancer does have a key so be careful not to lose it when you remove the balancer. The key/keyway will ensure the balancer is clocked properly when reinstalled.
@@markphillyfreeway5350well the balancer will always only go in one way . Because of the key way . But if ur changing the tensioner you kind of pose the risk of jumping a tooth. Because while u remove the tensioner and re install a new one , the chain kind of just dangles at the crank since there’s no tension right ? And when u pull the pin on the new tensioner the chain might not land where it was , it may be off by a tooth . Does that make sense ? The sure way is just remove the timing cover and replace the tensioner that way . Even get a marker and mark the chain at the crank before you remove the old tensioner so you know where to put the chain on the gear after u swap tensioners or just re time the engine altogether . Apologies for the essay lol
After setting everything and making sure the colored links were in the correct locations(two dots on cam gears and mark down at crank gear), I turned the engine a couple of rotations and back to lining the timing marks up but the colored links seem to be out of position. The tensioner is in place and everything but the colored links dont line up in the locations I set them up in any longer when I am at top dead center cyl 1. What gives?
The marked chain links will only align upon the initial installation. Once rotated, they will not realign immediately. It may take over 100 rotations of the crank to bring the marked chain links back to the starting position.
Fuck I should of just been a mechanic. Gunna deal with vehicle maintenance shit till I die might as well be somewhere I can work on my personal shit on or after company time
Brief introduction and Straight to the point awesome!!!
Where was this video when I need it 3 years ago!!!
That's good teaching sir . More of it . Thanks.
Guys! Thanks for a great video. I'm K swapping a '93 Civic and while I have the engine out I'm going to do the timing chain. I'll be using your kit!
What is a good kit ?
Do not use a punch and go thru that spot in the camshaft pulse plate to get the phasers off, the bolts for the phasers are usually tight asf and you’ll just snap the key way off. Literally am losing on a job cause I did it the way these guys did it. Use a wrench in the camshaft as leverage to break the phaser bolts loose. Simple as that. Save urself the trouble from me learning the hard way
Fr lost ur job
Thank you for this info
I have subscribed to your channel since 8 years ago
Very good video. Thank you very much for teaching me something that I really needed to know!
Just bought a 2.4 vtec 2003 accord. Thing has 281k miles. Want to get another 200k on this baby. Hondas and toyotas last forever
quick question, specifically for accord or crv with the Earthdreams 2.4 engine, when replacing the Cam Chain Tensioner, do i need to apply any tension to the chain guide, so it doesnt slack off? or there wouldnt be enough slack to worry about when replacing the cam chain tensioner (2013-2017 accord) and (crv 15-16 + )
thank you
How much for this kit?and everything is just like oem
I wonder how long the original chain set will go in a 2006 awd automatic - I am/ was considering, buying a element that has already had the drive line done. this car has very close to 250,000 miles on it. it is really nice though. The seller wants quite a bit for this car because it does look really nice so I am torn on the purchase with this many miles. I hope I can see an answer on here so I will be checking back on this EXCELLENTLY Done video. Thanks even if you cannot help. The video has cleared up many questions.
Thanks for the kind words.
Timing system lifespan is directly related to engine maintenance and driving style. If the oil was changed frequently and the car was driven conservatively then there is likely no reason to worry about the chain. I just recommend listening to the car at a warm idle, and preferably at cold startup to listen for any chain rattle. Once the chain reaches its fatigue life, it will typically give you some warning especially in low oil pressure situations. Sometimes it will even trip the check engine light for cam to crank correlation issues.
@@Cloyes01 my 2010 Acura tsx gave me check engine light for the camshaft sensors I put new sensors and crankshaft sensors car started up and Ran , I went to auto zone got a diagnostic on it and they told me the timing chain was loose I go home park my car and next morning car will not start that’s gotta be the timing chain? . The car
If it seems like my camshafts are about a tooth or 2 off while the crankshaft is aligned correctly, do I leave the crankshaft where it is and then rotate the camshafts so they align at TDC?
I just purchased your kit and I’m a bit confused on this part.
It will likely be easier to move the crankshaft to help align the cam sprocket marks. The camshafts will be up against valve spring pressure if you try to turn them. Just remember, the chain sets the timing. If your 3 marks are all aligned properly then the engine will be in time. The shafts do not need to be in any static locations, small adjustments can be made to help align the marks. Just make sure the marks are correct when you are done.
@@Cloyes01 thank you so much! This gave me greater confidence to get this done
1. USE THE ALTERNATELY-COLORED CHAIN LINKS AND SPROCKET ALIGNMENT MARKS. You won't get the engine in time unless you do. I spent an evening banging my head against the wall because this didn't occur to me.
2. Once the timing components are installed, before you put the harmonic balancer, timing cover and valve covers back on the engine block, it doesn't hurt to remove the spark plugs and turn the engine by hand to be absolutely certain it is in correct timing. If you made a mistake such that a valve impacts a piston, this is a better time and means of discovering that than cranking the starter with everything re-attached.
Can the next video be on the LV3 ecotec timing chain replacement?
Great video btw! 👍
Thanks for the video!
Great video and information as always thanks again!!!
Anytime!
I learned a lot from you
I’ve seen some places say you need to lock the VTC gear before setting the chain. Is that true?
The camshaft phaser should be locked when you disassemble the engine. You can make sure it is in the locked position by rotating the camshaft slightly and observing the phaser teeth. Make sure the phaser teeth and camshaft both move as one unit.
@@Cloyes01, just watched videos about that and I believe its unlock state is stronger than the locked one. Because when locked, full tenaion goes through the locking pin, while in unlocked position-the tension is distributed on all contact surface between the vanes.
Great video. Can anyone recommend a good torque wrench for this job? Mine only goes down to 20
Need an inch-pounds torque wrench. Most go to 250 INCH-lbs, divide by 12 to get Foot-lbs. 240 in-lbs / 12 = 20 ft-lbs. Usually they are 3/8 inch square drive.
Stay gold.
Better than OEM? I need one for my 2014 CRV.
You didn't go back to lock the actuator gear. When should this be done? After bolting it onto the camshaft, or after the chain is installed, aligned and guides and tensioner installed/activated?
In most all cases, the VVT actuator should already be in the locked position. We reused the original actuator so it was already locked. If you are installing an unlocked phaser, just make sure it is locked before you start the engine for the first time.
The only reason that the phaser being locked/unlocked matters is that you do not want to torque a locked phaser when holding it by the sprocket teeth. The phaser can be locked during torqueing, but you need to hold the hex feature of the camshaft while tightening the bolt to prevent damage to the internal locking pin.
@@Cloyes01I offered mechanic works for dealer side job 150$ just labor !! Is that fair I want to save but not enslave !!What do you think my offer to him ? Not enough?
I see you turned the exhaust cam to get the exhaust timing mark in the chain correctly but that moved the two dash marks that oppose each other on the two cam sprockets. Are they not important to have them aligned at the end of the installation.
Ultimately the chain sets the timing. Focus primarily on aligning the marked chain links to the marks on the sprockets. When you are finished, all three shafts could be rotated slightly clockwise or counterclockwise, so your cam marks may not align in the middle. But you will be able to rotate the engine and make those marks realign.
Only thing i disagree with is the iol pan part where you gotta lift it 😂
Great video I just got a honda accord and it's making chatter
Do you ship internationally
Hi guys . Just in case my motor is off by a tooth . Which I doubt it is . But let’s say it was . Can I put my camshafts at TDC using the crank , remove the chain and then line up crank at TDC ?
Yes, you can make small adjustments to the shafts once the chain is off to get the new chain to align. Just keep in mind piston to valve contact is possible if you have a valve open, make small adjustments by hand and do not force anything.
@ how would anything come into contact if camshafts and crank are all close to TDC ?
Wow this is an awesome video, thanks
Well explained. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
You cannot loosen the Intake cam bolt by pining the phaser plate it shears the locating tab on the phaser plate. The bolt is TIGHT and has to be loosened by holding the hex on the cam. If not removing camshaft the bolt can be heated with a heat induction tool. Your way cost me extra money and time waiting for a part I would not have needed if done the correct way the first time. VERY POOR INFORMATION FROM A TECH REP.
Do I need to remove oil pan to replace just the timing chain?
No, only to service the oil pump chain.
@ thank you
Question. Can you remove the harmonic balancer on the 2.4 without affecting the engine timing. The lower crank gear is not keywayed correct.
Yes you can. The balancer does have a key so be careful not to lose it when you remove the balancer. The key/keyway will ensure the balancer is clocked properly when reinstalled.
@@Cloyes01 so I can turn the balancer without off timing it as I change the tensioner ?
@@markphillyfreeway5350well the balancer will always only go in one way . Because of the key way . But if ur changing the tensioner you kind of pose the risk of jumping a tooth. Because while u remove the tensioner and re install a new one , the chain kind of just dangles at the crank since there’s no tension right ? And when u pull the pin on the new tensioner the chain might not land where it was , it may be off by a tooth . Does that make sense ? The sure way is just remove the timing cover and replace the tensioner that way . Even get a marker and mark the chain at the crank before you remove the old tensioner so you know where to put the chain on the gear after u swap tensioners or just re time the engine altogether . Apologies for the essay lol
After setting everything and making sure the colored links were in the correct locations(two dots on cam gears and mark down at crank gear), I turned the engine a couple of rotations and back to lining the timing marks up but the colored links seem to be out of position. The tensioner is in place and everything but the colored links dont line up in the locations I set them up in any longer when I am at top dead center cyl 1. What gives?
The marked chain links will only align upon the initial installation. Once rotated, they will not realign immediately. It may take over 100 rotations of the crank to bring the marked chain links back to the starting position.
@@Cloyes01 Yeah. I found out that later. Vehicle has started now and job is complete. Thanks a bunch!
So if i need this done I need the engine to be lifted? aka totaling the vehicle? F
Man just go buy a damn lift and pull the motor out😭
Now is time on Sprokets when we dance😊😊Saturday Night Live😊
Fuck I should of just been a mechanic. Gunna deal with vehicle maintenance shit till I die might as well be somewhere I can work on my personal shit on or after company time
So you’re saying if I have the opportunity to become one I should take it?
Nice! Ty
gracias, me sirvió mucho
Anyone has personal experience with this kit?
They say it is recommended
But my opinion is just make sure you got the right part/ #
@@Snacktimewlilxyqthanks but doesnt answer my question 😀
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no is 2.4
Not very realistic in the normal world. Really easy with the engine out of the car.
Me doing it with the engine in my car right now…