He Made the Big Leagues at 19. It Ruined His Career. | Baseball Bits
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Elvis Luciano was a Rule 5 Draft victim. Or, maybe Elvis Luciano was the luckiest ballplayer on the planet. Either way, he was just age 19 when he made his Elvis Luciano MLB Debut for the Toronto Blue Jays. The Blue Jays had selected him the Rule 5 Draft the previous December because of a contract loophole.
That loophole meant Elvis Luciano would reach MLB very young. In fact, becoming the youngest MLB player in 25 years. Was he prepared? No. But the Blue Jays knew that. They just wanted his services long term. He wasn’t the first player this happened to. It happened to Wei Chung Wang with the Brewers, as well as Allen Cordoba and Luis Torrens with the Padres.
Since that 2019 season, Luciano’s career has stalled. He’s now training with the Yomiuri Giants of Japan’s NPB. He hasn’t been able to join the Rule 5 draft success story ranks with players like Roberto Clemente, Johan Santana, and Anthony Santander. I hope you’ll enjoy this episode of Baseball Bits, a Foolish Baseball production.
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Outta Here Baseball on the Rule 5 Draft: • MLB Rule 5 Draft Expla...
Elvis pitching intersquad 2024: • 【春季キャンプ】〈シート打撃〉投手"ルシアー...
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Another example of this is David Clyde brought up with 0 major league experience I know this because I take lessons from him in 1973 he was brought up qnd was the #1 draft pick he had zero experience if u see this pls say smth about it btw he also ended up coaching some1 who ended up being the rockies first round pick in like 2001😊
Could you do something on the diamondbacks, I don’t care if it’s player or team oriented. Loved the Corbin video and it’s rare I get to watch cool stuff on my team. Keep up the good work!
97 year old TH-camr still makes banger videos the old fashion way
how do you always spawn in with 10 likes
@@FoolishBaseball
Distinctive username and profile picture
@@FoolishBaseballI just have that motion, Mr. Bailey Freeman.
@@FoolishBaseballhe bought the foolish starter pack. Automatically starts with 10 likes
He just has that aura
USA? Canada? Japan? That's INTERNATIONAL BASEBALL SUPERSTAR Elvis Luciano, thank you very much.
Sorry, sold him short
he actually went on a world tour unlike another Elvis i know
Elvis Luciano Baseball Bits was not on my 2024 bingo card
It was on mine, but I have all the answers tbf
“Foolish Baseball admits to collusion, damages in the single pennies”
That's what I love about this channel, he finds the best bits I didn't know I needed.
15:13 Poor guy. Giving up a double to Jeff Mathis the same year he had an OPS+ of 11.
Jeff Mathis could've saved him if he was still a Blue Jay at the time
By the transitive property we can assume that Jeff Mathis is a better hitter than Miguel Cabrera.
Rangers legend
So, do we call that a "Reverse Mathis"?
An "Anti-Mathis"?
Mathisn't
I think this is the absolute closest OOTP and real baseball will ever get to each other. I swear I do this every year there's a rule 5 eligible with 3 or more stars of potential, and now I feel bad about it. Thanks Bailey
I did it it the other day in my Twins save. There was a prospect with 60+ Range in the infield and outfield
Microwave pro-tip I learned when I turned pro at the age of 19 in the Microwave League: Press the +30 seconds button 4x instead of mashing 2-0-0-start. This requires far less precision and is much easier on your UCL in the long-run. Happy microwaving!
Interesting theory. 2-0-0 only requires three button presses though. Probably a negligible difference once you factor in having to move the finger from 2 to 0.
Don’t forget about the 4th press for “start”! This is commonly overlooked, even in our statistics-driven era
(If your microwave requires you to press start to use the +30 sec button, then (1) I’m sorry and (2) while technically more presses it’s still probably a wash to your point about having to move your finger)
@@FoolishBaseballdepending on the initial position of the hand and button pressing ability of different fingers you wouldn't need to even move any fingers to press 2-0-0
On my microwave, the 1-5 buttons are shortcuts to start cooking at 100% for 1 minute to 5 minutes respectively with just a single button press. (If you need to bypass those shortcuts, you need to press the "Cook Time" button first.)
Meanwhile, the number 9 button is still very rarely used.
Other Microwave tips: 1. Above-stove and other 'installed' Microwaves seem to have a capped power limit lower than counter-top or other portable Microwaves, which in my experience can make higher wattage Microwaves much faster and 2. Power percentage only changes the duty cycle (ratio of on/off) and not the power output, making it practically useless for better results and more even cooking. 3. Advertised power includes fan/lights and losses, it's only the input power while the cooking output is 1kW for my Samsung that appears to be the same as in this video. It's better than my old Microwave but (significantly) slower than a Smart countertop model we had in the mid 2000s amongst others.
I think the solution is easy. Just make it that contracts with failed physicals, where no game where ever played, don't count for the number of contracts necessary for rule 5 eligibility.
Yes. It should just be based on minor league service time.
@@FoolishBaseball The whole point of the Rule 5 draft is so that players who have not gotten an opportunity can get one. That “solution” will create an incentive for players to rush back from injury because any missed season locks them into another year of club control. All because of an outlier situation like this?
No.
@@Onlinerando This isn't about service time, it's about thee first-contract stipulation to Rule 5 eligibility. Service time has nothing to do with whether it's your first contract or your thirtieth.
BOOM-BOOM BECK MENTIONED
You can make a whole 26 man roster with players from 1913 who had funny names
@@warlordofbritannia Like Buck Farmer.
@@evrbody
Babe Borton is a personal fave.
You can have at least 3 guys named Pee Wee
Little known fact, Boom-Boom Beck led all of major league baseball in 1933 with 35 games started on his new team, the Brooklyn Dodgers in what was otherwise an unremarkable season. Don’t worry Boom-Boom, we see you.
The ‘wise men say only fools rush in’ line in this is very clever
tried to sneak in a few
Had me caught in a trap for sure
14:16 So THAT'S why MLB Power Pros had triple digit uniform numbers. Can't believe I only found that out just now.
If the Yankees retire too many numbers, they may need to add a 3rd digit permanently to the mix.
@@FoolishBaseball I think MLB should do this for Spring Training non roster invitees. Didn't the yanks almost run out of numbers in spring training one time?
@@FoolishBaseball Nah they just do what Futurama does and start using fractions
@@bmac4dominican up-and-comer Cesar Luzardo, playing the hot corner today and wearing number 34 and a 1/3
@@alexisborden3191 i'm seen multiple guys with the same number occasionally in ST
Nothing better than when you're already binging Foolish Baseball and then a new episode drops out of the blue
Just keep the binge watch sesh going!
The Elvis quote in the Elvis video at 5:43 is peak baseball bits
Nothing better than seeing "56 seconds ago" on a Foolish video
new baseball doesnt exist video and a new foolosh vid in 24 hrs w
How about 55 seconds ago? Checkmate.
@@FoolishBaseball54...53...52...51..alright I'm stopping now lol
@@FoolishBaseball Nah, 55 seconds is no good. It's called being fashionably late
@@FoolishBaseball True...
Bailey showing off that first baseman flexibility with that leg lift to open the fridge
I hurt my shoulder the first time I tried it.
I bet Elvis felt so misunderstood and taken advantage of, I’m sure he’ll see this and feel at peace because we understand his unique struggles.
hes not watching this 😂
He don't need to watch it he lived it
rule 5 draft is always insane. as a red sox fan, the noah song saga was one of the msot interesting minor league storylines last year.
as a phillies fan, that was such a crazy “what if” scenario, hopefully he turns out good for y’all
phillies legend noah song??
Always picking out the most interesting baseball stories that most have never heard of. I don't even watch baseball but this keeps me into it 😂
Thank you!
The Elvis joke was next level. Can’t help but fall in love with it
Fun fact about Johan Santana that nobody talks about:
He was briefly with the Marlins. The Marlins plucked him from the Astros as a Rule 5 Draft pick, then almost immediately traded him to the Twins for Jared Camp. Jared Camp never reached the majors, and Johan Santana became a borderline Hall of Famer.
That's like saying Rollie Fingers was once with the St. Louis Cardinals or that Mike Piazza was once with the Florida Marlins.
@Compucles Mike Piazza played regular season games with the Marlins, he was once a Marlins even if it was for only a week.
@@DarkSideMaceWindu Ah, touché.
it is 5am here in the philippines and i should be studying for my class in law school but a new baseball bits just dropped
Pinoy OFW here in Ireland! Have hosoital duty tomorrow but baseball bits is baseball bits
This video is about a loophole. It's basically the same as studying for law school.
Thanks for showing your secondary channel some love, Bailey!
Iv been subscribed to foolish baseball for 2 years and its still always great to see another banger video posted keep up the great work
that elvis only fools rush in joke was good. +1
I love when bailey uploads on his second channel, it's really underrated
Man, I didn't get a notification even through I have notis for the videos on. Love the bangers as usual foolish
i remembered luciano at one point last year and was curious what he was up to, thanks for doing the research that i was too lazy to do myself, and conveniently wrapping it in a banger baseball bits vid
My Favorite Rule 5 draft pick for the Texas Rangers was Delino DeShields JR. IN 2015 he was a solid utility player with a 344 OBP and 25 stolen bases. He had a specialty for Sacrifice hits, leading the league in them 3x in his 7 year career.
I honestly think this is one of the most interesting Baseball Bits you’ve done. I never knew who Elvis Luciano was, and I hope he comes back to MLB for his sake. Looked like he could’ve had electric stuff
Another extraordinary Baseball Bits video. I finally understand the rule 5 draft
Omg new baseball bits vid gonna be the best 15 minutes of my day
Great video! Love seeing more rule 5 draft content! I worked with the Phillies last season and got to see Noah Song in one of the more unique rule 5 cases
Yes I almost mentioned his unique situation in the video. I definitely would've if he stuck with the Phils.
I’m curious as well regarding how many players in general have played at every level of the minors in a single season, super nice guy as well l, wished it would of worked out with the Phil’s
Noah Song was the first guy I thought of while watching this video too. Im a sox fan, so I saw through the other perspective. A weird case for sure.
thanks for the great video! one of your better ones imo
Another bonus for Luciano: Anyone who appears in at least one MLB game is eligible for a full MLB pension.
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This is a really interesting story. I had never heard of him and it was just a couple years ago. I like this video, so I am going to see what else you have going on.
I used your Factor discount today! Thanks for all of the great videos over the years!
New Foolish video!!! I’m happy
The slickness of the Elvis references is frying my brain. You're getting too good at making videos.
Excellent as always
I've been edging since the last foolish baseball was uploaded. That means I've been on the edge of my seat waiting for new uploads.
Um... You may want to look up "edging" in the Urban Dictionary.
You're right. That is what that means.
Felt so smart when you were explaining the Rule 5 draft stuff and I knew it all just simply from playing Franchise Mode in MLB The Show, haha.
“Wise men say only fools rush in, but Elvis didn’t have a choice” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Most insane road to the show ark
I was expecting the Elvis reference until about 10 seconds before it happened
😂😂😂
"Thank you very much"
That "Can't help falling in love" reference was beautifully done.
I think the loophole should be addressed. It's kind of like some plays not being reviewable or getting a hr overturned bc you didn't touch home plate. It's not serving it's purpose as intended.
Great vid
you reminded me of Thomas Pannone with the 2021 ERA stats and now I wont be able to sleep peacefully
As always, a fire Baseball Bits episode.
I'm of the opinion that it was both a blessing and a curse. That one year of Major League pay might have been the financial stability needed to bridge the gap to the developmental deal with the Giants, which could be Elvis's big chance to show that he is Major League ready just about on schedule for a decent length career. He's only 24 this year, and plenty of pitchers don't make it to the show until they turn 25 or 26. This story isn't over, and I look forward to the follow up in around 5 years when he's won a Cy Young Award.
Enjoyed this video! Thank you
Just when I was hoping to see the 2024 Foolish 50 on my feed, I get Baseball Bits! Love the side channel content as always
It’s a good week, you come to Baseball club at Indiana and then we get baseball bits
we love the hoosiers don't we folks
Great video as usual. Hey Dwight Gooden also made his debut at age 19 in 1984. He made the jump from A ball to the majors directly . Not rule 5 though
BASEBALL’S BACK BABY
Glad to see Baileys second channel getting an upload here and there
I like the fridge opening strategy. Smart
Good damn! Theses Elvis lines hit harder than Barry freaking Bonds🥵
I'm naming my first born,
Boom Boom Beck and for his first Birthday, He's getting 2 turn tables and A Microphone!!
Let’s fundamentally go!
Thank fundamentally you!
Glad you brought to light this situation. He honestly did pretty well considering the unfair circumstances. It’s a shame he never got another shot in the bigs you gotta feel bad for him to some extent.
Austin Butler has been cast to play him in an upcoming biopic
In return, Elvis will cameo in Dune
14:02 that yomiuri pronunciation hit me like a truck lmao
damn that sucks, you ok?
I was just thinking to my self earlier today that it's been a while since I got to watch a foolish baseball vid. My luck day!
Lucky for me too. Glad to have this one out.
Finally a second channel upload
this video helped me get an immaculate draft question right lol
Bailey the kinda guy I turn on post notifications for
It isn't a true Foolish Baseball video until you hear him say a weird/old-timey name.
8:30 Boom-Boom Beck satisfies this criteria, making this a true Foolish Baseball video.
from Toronto ... I remember Luciano but it seemed like he just disappeared like Augie Schmidt and Sil Campusano and Matt Stark. Even Jay Schroeder and Danny Ainge reappeared elsewhere ...
Should do a video on the how unlikely and also how competitive the giants/dodgers 2021 NL west division race was
Still watching the video, but as a Royal's fan, I remember when I first heard the Blue Jays were selecting Luciano in the Rule 5 Draft, and I immediately went "Why?". It's not like he was a big top prospect in our system, and I knew at the time that the Blue Jays were gonna mess up his development by rushing him to Big Leagues. And it turns out I was sadly right.
Yeah it was a waste of time for everyone involved.
5:43-5:49 gotta be the most fire line in yt history
He actually had good stuff when he was up in 2019 and looked like he'd be able to compete with some more experience
Love that jersey in the beginning! Good ol Atlanta United
Mom!! Foolish dropped!
I was just thinking of Elvis Luciano earlier today, not even joking. This is insane
5:42 is a Banger Elvis reference btw. Credit for that one Bailey!
I saw the title and the jays hat and was expecting a Roberto Osuna video (154 saves saves before the age of 25, MOST IN MLB HISTORY BY A MILE. 1 after)
Noah Song caught a bit of a raw deal last year. Taken from Boston by Philly after missing multiple years due to mandatory military service. Spent most or all of the year on the IL, for what may have been a phantom injury, only to eventually be returned to the Sox. In the end it just felt like the Phillies wasted a year of potential development for a guy who at 26 years old doesn’t have time to waste. Pretty sad honestly. Makes you think that certain exceptions should be made sometimes
On the other hand, after missing several years and trying to pitch again, it seems pretty likely that he'd get injured, plus the Phillies didn't even keep him after the season was over.
Phillies fan here. I was excited for Song and thought it could be a sneaky move. By all accounts, from what I have seen (and i follow the team closely) is that they werent trying to waste anything and actually thought he could help. The injury was not phantom, and when he came back he was only throwing 91-93. They had no choice but to offer him back. I hope he eventually makes it, but those injuries may have done a number on his arm already.
Kane county cougars mentioned!!!
Foolish baseball upload, my day is complete
good thing there isn't any big baseball news to compete with today
Babe, wake up, Foolish Baseball posted
Your babe is sleeping at 5:15 EST? Well, she had a long day at work. Best to let her rest.
@@FoolishBaseball
He could be talking about his cat.
@@FoolishBaseball Shes a teacher bro they always pass out at 3:30. :(
He got to stare down batters weekly. Archie "Moonlight" Graham was stuck playing the outfield for one inning and only got to see a big league pitcher as "Shoeless" Joe Jackson's teammate in Iowa that one time. The Rule 5 draft makes big league dreams come true, kid. You don't have to play near some cornfield in Iowa anymore.
Yay, new Bailey Ball video!
that's me, Foolish Baileyball
The story of Roberto Clemente is a little more complicated than that. In his Rule 5 year he clearly wasn't ready for the majors, and his OPS+ through his age 24 season was 89, very poor for an outfielder. He really became very good at baseball at age 25
Bro rocking the 404 kit 🔥
“Johan Santana was plucked from the Astros organization.” I was having a nice day until I was reminded of this
Bailey talk about Ohtani's gambling addiction
His stolen base success rate hasn't been that great. Needs to stop gambling on the basepaths.
"Wise men say only fools rush in"
Me: "Nice Elvis reference."
...
Me: "Wait, this guy's name is Elvis?!"
If it wasn't for dorks we wouldn't have videos like this. Good job dork. 🤜🏻🤛🏼
part of the reason Allen Cordoba never returned to the majors was a seriour injury after a car accident in Panama. i believe then he returned to the Padres an played AAA for some time. I think he is now playingMexican league. Caribean series and also played World baseball classic with Panama national team. i hope he returns to the majors. @Foolishbaseball
do ads in the first minute of run time decrease the video analytics by chance?
i love these videos more than my family
He only got 80,000 as a signing bonus from the DR, but made over half a million in his one big league year. And I don’t get the sense he was wealthy when he was in the DR. I also don’t get the sense Luciano had much upside potential.
NH Fisher Cats mentioned
That seems like telling a high-schooler they don't get to go to college and they have to start working in a field where you should at least have a bachelor's, then if they fail blaming them for it
if there's one thing I know about prospects the DBacks trade away, it's that they go on to be MLB All Stars. I'd say Elvis Luciano's future is bright
The fact that they got Jon Jay in the trade, who ended up having the worst flyball percentage in the league the next season, is especially promising for Elvis
Add that to the immaculate grid list
I remember Foolish mentioning Elvis during a Wake n' Jake a while back. I wonder how long this idea has been gestating.
It's good to know MLB teams do the same rule 5 shenanigans I do in OOTP
He's had a career of ups and downs, yet he is only 24. I hope for the best for this kid
Legend
not sure if you're talking about me or Elvis
My guy has brick walls now! What an upgrade
No more 5 over 1 for me