I worked for Infiniti when this gen QX60 launched and personally while the Autograph is nice I think it pushes the price up a bit too much. If you can live without the quilting and blacktop roof along with a couple of the other small things. the Luxe w/ the Bose audio upgrade is the sweet spot. You still get the heated/cooled seats, digital cluster, pro pilot assist, pano roof etc for around 60K or less (and dealers are more likely to offer discounts).
Great point! That's why we leaned into the idea of getting one of these used. A used autograph trim at a steep discount is the way to go, especially at $60k or less.
@@jax1079 oh yeah used they’re fantastic. More so if CPO. The Infiniti CPO warranty last I remember was 7 years/unlimited miles on the powertrain from the first sale of the vehicle.
@@scarboy6693 Wow! That's even better than I thought. I know they want to sell new ones, but I think a LOT of people would be convinced by a vehicle like the QX60 if they knew they could get that much value added in used.
Even the Sensory trim with the Saddle Brown leather, Moonbow Blue, open pore wood trim, & massaging front seats makes the Sensory trim a great value since it's the highest trim you can get with a bench in the second row.
@@scarboy6693 They changed it from 7 to 6 yrs unlimited miles, and keep in mind that is only on the powertrain. Bumper to bumper is just the same 4 yrs overall. And the orig powertrain is 6 yrs, so the only advantage to CPO is that the mileage goes to unlimited.
Good review. Tons of info. The only thing I would change is the presentation. One talks and the other videos. The over talking and bickering couple is to real for me 😂
The front seats in front of the lastvrow seats are adjustable and the back rest for the last row is also adjustable but apparently you all didn't know that because you all never mentioned it.
@@jax1079and on the Sensory you can come even closer to the Autograph by hitting the right options that give you the HUD and some other Autograph goodies. Still sadly no black roof or, I believe, the quilting... but you do get the ability to have second row bench, a choice unfortunately missing on the Autograph.
You hit the nail on the head on the shifter. Shouldn't have tried to fix what weren't broke. Maybe not by much but still better than a dial or fiddly Acura type button push-pull affair (Ayrton Senna is turning in his grave), GM's truck dash buttons, or Porsche's embarrassing little nubbin. Just bring back the far-superior traditional PRND +/- shifter. Distant second best would be the "Mercedes" column stalk others have also been adopting, but it's still not as useful or nearly as intuitive as a regular one on the console. The stalk still requires a separate movement (button push) for Park. No thanks.
We're in agreement for sure. We don't mind the stalk for the purposes of freeing up center console space in a practical family vehicle (see the Chevy Traverse preview), but over complicating the traditional shifter while still taking up the same amount of space makes ZERO sense. Some allowances could be made for a truck that has 4wd modes and low range, etc... but that's a niche scenario. Family vehicles with ridiculous shifters are just plain silly. Megan HATES them... if you couldn't tell :-)
@@jax1079 you make an excellent point about the buttons, the Acura push-pull system for instance, and dials and such on the console taking up the same space as an especially well-designed traditional shifter. I wouldn't mind the column stalk so much if it were truly like old school, meaning if it still included Park in the primary motion-arc,... which as time goes by fewer and fewer are familiar with, and therefore don't appreciate the absence of such..... and that was the time-honored PRNDL literally in that order from the top (later on, some with a button on the end of the stalk for engaging / disengaging O/D)..... so when you wanted Park you just shifted up to the uppermost notch or detent, period (dead end) ... the beauty was it was strictly by feel and certain. I realize almost all cars are strictly electronic connections now, etc (thus the typical fanboy and often manufacturer excuse, "we can put the shifter anywhere now, it doesn't matter...". I say it does, read on)...... but I'm sure the engineers could figure out a way to do at least the first step, the stalk's engagement with its column mounting, as solid mechanical feel and then those positions could be translated to the transmission itself just as some the past several years and still currently with otherwise standard, traditional shifters on the console. Regarding retaining a traditional console shifter with the +/- function, yes I realize more and more vehicles have paddle shifters, but there is still nothing as predictable, "certain" as having that function (also) on the console, especially when you want to control gears when you're going up a grade, in the twisties, etc, I really don't need to be trying to do two things with at least one steering hand. You might want to - on the one hand (literally) control gears, (the car's computer truly doesn't know the optimal gear in all conditions, its logarithms were developed in the lab), but also pay particular attention to the road and your steering - at the same time.
I love this real world review by laypeople (not car enthusiasts) in a grumpy way! Like tbh I don't care about how many hp it has, torque breaking whatever... rather I want to know if the seats feel good when driving over uneven roads, small potholes, road bumps etc... But which 3-row SUV gives you cooled seats at $70K?
Great review again spot on. Like this vehicle a lot at $60k which is what it should be at loaded just like the Mazda. But what are we doing at $70k and we don’t even flinch anymore? Is $70k the new $50,000? I traded my 2024 MDX Advanced I got last September on March 15th with 22k on it for a 2023 Lincoln Black Label Aviator black/alpine (stunning). When I got the MDX I really wanted the Aviator but not only were they not discounting them like they should have, but they had the can’t sell recall on them. I didn’t have a dealer tell me that until talking to the third one…pure slime 😤 So in March for shit$ and giggles I called my local Lincoln dealer and said I’ll buy a 2023 Black Label for $10k under the sticker. 2024’s on the lot right next to all the 2023’s they couldn’t sell. Local dealer scoffed at my offer and said their $5k discount was plenty. So I called the dealer that was honest last September and told me they could deliver it because of the recall. Offered the same deal but they were five hours away in MN. They got to within $1,500 of my offer and I said pass. I was talking to my Sales Manager and reminded him they will be taking a loss on EVERY 2023 and his first loss will be his best loss. He called back in 90 minutes and said deal. And my local Lincoln dealer is now selling them for $10k under msrp. 🤪 My point Jax that you talked about, is we have become numb to the $70+ price tag. That’s a lot of freaking money and how many buyers are left playing in that sandbox? My Aviator sticker was $82,220 which is ludicrous for what you get Black Label or not! I feel modestly better with the $10k discount but this the most expensive car I’ve ever owned. And when we retire in a few years we’ll have a 2023 Nautilus 2.7 Reserve loaded and a 2023 Aviator. Don’t get me wrong, super pleased with the 3.0 liter 400hp 415torque the size and SO comfortable ride and 30 way adjustable seats…but I can’t help but look at it and think $82,220 for a LINCOLN 🫣 Just like looking at that $70k QX60 and thinking…for an INFINITY 😯 You and Meg are awesome per usual 👍🏻
Absolutely excellent point. Despite the awful interest rates and dealer practices, it's much more of a buyer's market than people realize. If they're patient (as you were!) there are still deals to be had out there. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I worked for Infiniti when this gen QX60 launched and personally while the Autograph is nice I think it pushes the price up a bit too much. If you can live without the quilting and blacktop roof along with a couple of the other small things. the Luxe w/ the Bose audio upgrade is the sweet spot. You still get the heated/cooled seats, digital cluster, pro pilot assist, pano roof etc for around 60K or less (and dealers are more likely to offer discounts).
Great point! That's why we leaned into the idea of getting one of these used. A used autograph trim at a steep discount is the way to go, especially at $60k or less.
@@jax1079 oh yeah used they’re fantastic. More so if CPO. The Infiniti CPO warranty last I remember was 7 years/unlimited miles on the powertrain from the first sale of the vehicle.
@@scarboy6693 Wow! That's even better than I thought. I know they want to sell new ones, but I think a LOT of people would be convinced by a vehicle like the QX60 if they knew they could get that much value added in used.
Even the Sensory trim with the Saddle Brown leather, Moonbow Blue, open pore wood trim, & massaging front seats makes the Sensory trim a great value since it's the highest trim you can get with a bench in the second row.
@@scarboy6693 They changed it from 7 to 6 yrs unlimited miles, and keep in mind that is only on the powertrain. Bumper to bumper is just the same 4 yrs overall. And the orig powertrain is 6 yrs, so the only advantage to CPO is that the mileage goes to unlimited.
Good review. Tons of info. The only thing I would change is the presentation. One talks and the other videos. The over talking and bickering couple is to real for me 😂
We like to think it's more authentic...
The front seats in front of the lastvrow seats are adjustable and the back rest for the last row is also adjustable but apparently you all didn't know that because you all never mentioned it.
Great video, I'm upgrading my Pathfinder 2013 SL with a QX60 Sensory sometime this year.
You won't be disappointed. More of the good stuff and less of the stuff you might not like as much 😉👍🏻
@@jax1079and on the Sensory you can come even closer to the Autograph by hitting the right options that give you the HUD and some other Autograph goodies. Still sadly no black roof or, I believe, the quilting... but you do get the ability to have second row bench, a choice unfortunately missing on the Autograph.
Does it not have handsfree liftgate?
It does
You hit the nail on the head on the shifter. Shouldn't have tried to fix what weren't broke. Maybe not by much but still better than a dial or fiddly Acura type button push-pull affair (Ayrton Senna is turning in his grave), GM's truck dash buttons, or Porsche's embarrassing little nubbin. Just bring back the far-superior traditional PRND +/- shifter. Distant second best would be the "Mercedes" column stalk others have also been adopting, but it's still not as useful or nearly as intuitive as a regular one on the console. The stalk still requires a separate movement (button push) for Park. No thanks.
We're in agreement for sure. We don't mind the stalk for the purposes of freeing up center console space in a practical family vehicle (see the Chevy Traverse preview), but over complicating the traditional shifter while still taking up the same amount of space makes ZERO sense. Some allowances could be made for a truck that has 4wd modes and low range, etc... but that's a niche scenario. Family vehicles with ridiculous shifters are just plain silly. Megan HATES them... if you couldn't tell :-)
@@jax1079 you make an excellent point about the buttons, the Acura push-pull system for instance, and dials and such on the console taking up the same space as an especially well-designed traditional shifter. I wouldn't mind the column stalk so much if it were truly like old school, meaning if it still included Park in the primary motion-arc,... which as time goes by fewer and fewer are familiar with, and therefore don't appreciate the absence of such..... and that was the time-honored PRNDL literally in that order from the top (later on, some with a button on the end of the stalk for engaging / disengaging O/D)..... so when you wanted Park you just shifted up to the uppermost notch or detent, period (dead end) ... the beauty was it was strictly by feel and certain. I realize almost all cars are strictly electronic connections now, etc (thus the typical fanboy and often manufacturer excuse, "we can put the shifter anywhere now, it doesn't matter...". I say it does, read on)...... but I'm sure the engineers could figure out a way to do at least the first step, the stalk's engagement with its column mounting, as solid mechanical feel and then those positions could be translated to the transmission itself just as some the past several years and still currently with otherwise standard, traditional shifters on the console. Regarding retaining a traditional console shifter with the +/- function, yes I realize more and more vehicles have paddle shifters, but there is still nothing as predictable, "certain" as having that function (also) on the console, especially when you want to control gears when you're going up a grade, in the twisties, etc, I really don't need to be trying to do two things with at least one steering hand. You might want to - on the one hand (literally) control gears, (the car's computer truly doesn't know the optimal gear in all conditions, its logarithms were developed in the lab), but also pay particular attention to the road and your steering - at the same time.
With a Pathfinder Platinum for much less!
Very true, no doubt about it
Pathfinder doesn’t have the 12 inch screens also it doesn’t have massaging seats
@@DavidRC-m9w I don’t need either!
@@DavidRC-m9w I don’t care!
I love this real world review by laypeople (not car enthusiasts) in a grumpy way!
Like tbh I don't care about how many hp it has, torque breaking whatever... rather I want to know if the seats feel good when driving over uneven roads, small potholes, road bumps etc...
But which 3-row SUV gives you cooled seats at $70K?
Most have cooled seats at that price point. Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻
I love the review - the Autograph is so nice inside, but i do see the less than perfect tech. All in all, compared to others this is a great deal!
Especially CPO
Great review again spot on. Like this vehicle a lot at $60k which is what it should be at loaded just like the Mazda. But what are we doing at $70k and we don’t even flinch anymore? Is $70k the new $50,000?
I traded my 2024 MDX Advanced I got last September on March 15th with 22k on it for a 2023 Lincoln Black Label Aviator black/alpine (stunning). When I got the MDX I really wanted the Aviator but not only were they not discounting them like they should have, but they had the can’t sell recall on them. I didn’t have a dealer tell me that until talking to the third one…pure slime 😤
So in March for shit$ and giggles I called my local Lincoln dealer and said I’ll buy a 2023 Black Label for $10k under the sticker. 2024’s on the lot right next to all the 2023’s they couldn’t sell. Local dealer scoffed at my offer and said their $5k discount was plenty. So I called the dealer that was honest last September and told me they could deliver it because of the recall. Offered the same deal but they were five hours away in MN. They got to within $1,500 of my offer and I said pass. I was talking to my Sales Manager and reminded him they will be taking a loss on EVERY 2023 and his first loss will be his best loss. He called back in 90 minutes and said deal.
And my local Lincoln dealer is now selling them for $10k under msrp. 🤪 My point Jax that you talked about, is we have become numb to the $70+ price tag. That’s a lot of freaking money and how many buyers are left playing in that sandbox? My Aviator sticker was $82,220 which is ludicrous for what you get Black Label or not! I feel modestly better with the $10k discount but this the most expensive car I’ve ever owned. And when we retire in a few years we’ll have a 2023 Nautilus 2.7 Reserve loaded and a 2023 Aviator. Don’t get me wrong, super pleased with the 3.0 liter 400hp 415torque the size and SO comfortable ride and 30 way adjustable seats…but I can’t help but look at it and think $82,220 for a LINCOLN 🫣
Just like looking at that $70k QX60 and thinking…for an INFINITY 😯 You and Meg are awesome per usual 👍🏻
Absolutely excellent point. Despite the awful interest rates and dealer practices, it's much more of a buyer's market than people realize. If they're patient (as you were!) there are still deals to be had out there. Thanks for watching and commenting!