This is the BEST Electric Motorcycle PERIOD (And a GREAT Bike!)
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HD killed Alta and their electric dirt bikes that are STILL in the top 5% of current dirt bike tech even 4 years after the fact. HD doesn't deserve to make any money off of EV, they shafted us out of some of the best EV motorcycle tech we could've gotten and now they want to overcharge for their stuff all over again like they have been for the past 3 decades.
This should be that top comment
@@jesselopez0008 Yup, the man is right
It's all business, they did that so they could make this company and charge ridiculous prices (like they still are).
From a business standpoint it was a win, from a consumer standpoint Harley are absolute scum and deserve to go bust
Yeah, what's the point of "good business" if it gives us worse products on a more delayed timeline at greater cost?
It's not as simple as "Harley killed alta". Fortnine did a video on it. It's pretty good. Dives a little deeper into what happened.
2 major changes that would make me buy this without a second thought - 1: 10k cost. 2: weight reduction. I love this, but I can't justify the cost at this point.
Speaking 2 years later on this subject, and electric bikes are still stupid expensive, I’d say with modern bike prices, 15k and 50 pounds lighter and you have a really cool bike for the price, given it’s an ev it is hard to bring the price down that much
That 95 mile (claimed) highway range is a deal killer. Might be ok for a commute to work bike where you can charge it while you work, but for a weekend fun machine, big nope.
Yeah man a bike with under 150 mile range is a deal killer for me even in a gas powered machine... on electric with that kind of charge time it's an absolute no-go... In California that's the equivalent of driving from LA to San Diego one way and you're done for 12 hours? WEAK
@@drewmorg. or 1.5 hrs if using a charge station
@@Zelcore37 energica builds magnificent bikes. You made a good purchase!👍🏻
@@Zelcore37 Is the highway range on the Ego+ 123 miles? I saw on their site "extra-urban" which I assume means highway. Thinking out loud since I am trying to decide on Energica and LiveWire, the LW seems to be about 95 to 100 miles, and the Ego+ is a nice 23 to 28 miles more on a charge.
It's a naked sport bike not a sport tourer or cruiser. "But I might wanna........ ."
I just got a used Harley LiveWire as my first bike and I'm excited for it. I have already ridden it around parking lots and out on the road. So far I've been keeping it in rain mode to ease the throttle and power. This is honestly a very comfortable motorcycle. My commute to work on it and around town is where I think the range is the best. I only charge it about once a week and have been getting easily over 100 miles from it.
Any updates on the ownership experience?
@@gregorycaldwell3721 it’s going really well! Even though I bought it used, it was still less than 1k miles. Now I crossed that, I was able to perform the 1k service myself. There was actually an oil change involved. The oil is only there to lubricants the gearbox. I’ve become way more comfortable riding and it’s so enjoyable on the LiveWire. It’s closest to the feeling of flying because of the quiet motor. No regrets getting my motorcycle license and buying the LiveWire 5 months later!
Can this bike ride two people?
@@sf6ftw833 it technically can, but the rear passenger has to be small. The rear seat is only about 6 inches. There are foldable passenger foot pegs so it’s intended to have a rear passenger, but there’s not much room lol.
@@WeatherManAP Thank you for the reply! I wonder if there are plans to make a cruiser friendly version of this bike.
I'm hoping that there's some major leaps in battery capacity technology for EV's like this in the near future. The weight tradeoff for a motorcycle makes these a very hard sell at the moment, plus the lack of charging infrastructure in the majority of america. That being said, still a cool bike, and while I won't be getting one, it's still inspiring me to eventually make my own electric motorcycle down the road
Not just battery capacity though. To make these bikes competitive they need every technology we can throw at them. All the composite materials and all the new battery and motor technology
If they could give 160 miles in sport mode and 250 in leaf at 20k I would never even consider riding a gas motorcycle again.
Just wait for the full solid-state batteries that are in development. I suggest giving it a look.
@@That1J1 what about the sound ? Thats the best thing about bikes
It's the weight that I couldn't live with. If it were sub 400 lb and $15,000 I'd buy one to complement my California made electric car. Still prices continue to drop and the gravimetric energy density of the cells that make up an EV battery continues to increase so there is a fair chance at some time in the future I'd buy a full size electric motorbike (electric push bikes have already reached that point for me).
Got my first road bike ever this week! Triumph Street Triple R, Team Empire special edition. Absolutely in love, on the way home got several waves and a thumbs up from a dude in his car. No better feeling!
I've logged over 18k on my LiveWire before deciding to trade it in. I think there is a little too much emphasis on the weight. It isn't the issue. the last thing you want on the highway is crosswinds moving you. The battery tech is the issue, lithium-ion takes too long to recharge, even with level 3 supported by the bike. The LiveWire makes for a fantastic daily commuter. But once you've ridden around town and want to venture further, the 45+ minute recharging eats into your riding time for those longer trips. I'm crossing my fingers on solid state batteries to change that. Outside of that, the LiveWire is fantastic, acceleration, braking, handling, well balanced and zero vibration....butter smooth.
The price reduction is a game changer.
It makes it way more competitive in the marketplace.
The claimed torque number for electric vehicles is usually at the wheel because their flywheel numbers aren’t as impressive as acceleration stats would lead you to believe. That’s probably the root of the difference in claimed numbers between the Zero and Livewire.
as a michigan rider you lost me when you guys said you can feel every imperfection in the road god that would be terrible
Ha Ha Ha …. LOL.
As a Michigan resident, I agree for most of the state.
But in SW Michigan they keep the roads in decent condition. I can’t wait until they complete the repairs on I-69 to Lansing- then it will be smooth sailing all the way up north:-)
@@thomasreedy4751 construction on I 69 will nvr end
It's jarring when you cross the border from ohio... and that's in a car
yeah that doesn’t seem like a plus
So happy. Literally tried to google if you had reviewed this earlier this week. Thanks yam.
Fun to watch you guys ride the roads I ride every weekend 👍🏻
If an electric HD can be this good, imagine how an electric Ducati or KTM is going to be…
I'd be looking at electric as a low maintenance commuter, but something like a zero s, a lot less money and have a interesting petrol bike for the weekends.
+1
I have the same setup. Electric one for commutes and a petrol one for weekend fun.
Great review, thanks guys!
Harley good?
I think the sheer acceleration of the turbo busa might have shaken yammie's noggin a little too hard.
Nah, JK. I believe you, mate
Didn't Harley inherit most of the LiveWire tech from an acquisition? (Could be misremembering)
@@TravisTerrell if by "acquisition" you mean "unfriendly takeover and bankrupting of a promising startup that delivered far better bikes than HD intended at far lower costs", yes.
I think we all are looking forward for the Triumph one! lets hope they continue to develop all in a good way!
I'm hoping they'll make an electric Triumph Terrier
Only people like you….
I think they'll be able to make something like this at a sub-$15k price point after the R&D is paid off and they transplant a lot of the same tech into a different bike. Probably in 5-7 years or so is my guess.
this decade is going ot be so exciting
Have you been paying attention to the economy recently?
They have the Livewire S2 Del Mar now! $15k
This is the best, most comprehensive review I’ve seen on this unique machine!! I’m in Canada, and a decent price reduction and great trade value from my Africa Twin got me on a 2020 HD branded LiveWire this spring. The pandemic changed how/where I’m riding, and this bike - once you’ve given it a few rides to get your feel for it - is so much fun, and unlike any motorcycle I’ve ever ridden 🏍
I just signed the paperwork on a 2020 tonight. Can't wait to take delivery of the bike. Got a sweet deal on it too and it only has 3300 KMs on it.
I think if they ( the big 4) make a bike like this one but with 10 k price start and with 8 hours charging time on a regular and 1 h for 70% fast charge then they would make a solid market
I would trade in my XSR 900 right now for that motorcycle if it existed.
Don't worry Chinese will come in soon with an offering like you describe and wipe the floor with Live Wire.
The Big 4 (Plus KTM) have agreed to develop a modular common battery pack that will be serviceable and intergangeable between the brands
Once batteries get to a neccisary power density; this future will be real
You cant achieve those speeds with regular house outlet. Ever.
@@samuelcharlebois881 Here in the US we can run massive circuits to our homes. 400amp service.
AGREED!! I rode it yesterday.. and wow. I think I am in love.. Insane fun bike
Wild how i was looking at this bike for the first time today n now u drop a vid
This is a review that I didn't expect and knowing what your thoughts on the Zero were , I am sort of surprised the two of you liked them.
I bought a Livewire in August last year and there are a few more cons , probably the biggest that the servicing interval is the same as other Harleys and isn't that cheap.
The dealer also changed the brake fluid on the first service (for $20) , I have the bike in eco/range mode (leaf mode) most of the time.
You can display widgets on either side of the dash , but they turn off when the bike is switched off so you have to set them each time you ride the bike.
The stand has a serrated bottom that can grab on rough pavement and not lock in place properly & the bike tends to roll forward on the stand on level ground.
Despite the cons I think it's a great bike , it's a shame they didn't bring out the Bronx.
Yammi needs to get his hands on a energica ribelle. As far as price on these goes wait another 4 to 5 years for the 4680 lfp batteries to filter down to the lower use cases.
Prices will come down to a more manageable level.
Native CA guy here glad you guys were able to enjoy our roads out here, sorry about the gas prices, lol.
A buddy got one like a year ago, he loves it. One to watch for sure given my local riding environment but the range stuff seems scarier on a bike vs an electric car.
My concern is they are too quiet. I went from a too loud Harley to a too quiet new Kawasaki, and I Had way too many close calls from drivers. so I put on a slightly louder exhaust, which does help, even though I liked it quiet. Nonetheless, the electrics are very appealing. Food for thought when you shop. Just be safe out there.
I rode this at IMS and loved it. Only electric I've ever ridden but it was very surprising and fun. Just needs to come down in price
Awesome, great to see more electric motorcycle content on this channel!
RGNT Motorcycles and the Sondors Metacycle next?
I hope Harley offers battery upgrades in the future when the tech gets better. Keeping the same bike and just upgrading the battery would be sick
I actually picked up a Livewire One last week! I LOVE THIS BIKE!
I'd have one of these or an Energica in a heartbeat.
I'd still need a regular bike for long rides, but these would make an amazing city/shorter ride bike.
@@Magic_Toaster that's what I'm doing!! 2023 EsseEsse9+
I feel like to make this perfect, it needs a second, smaller auxiliary battery dedicated to external components like heated vest, Bluetooth charging, LED’s, navigation etc. I’d also like adjustable foot pegs for different leg positioning. A windshield should be standard with the option to remove and lastly…range. I see their S2 Del Mar is within the proper price range. Range is really only as good as the amount of power stations at this point, so I can’t fault any of these bikes’ range.
Now that's a REAL electric bike!
Looking forwards to you guys reviewing an Energica Eva Ribelle this year. ;-)
Quietest Vlog I've ever listened to/watched..... 😉
Good to see they've come a long way but, I won't be "trading up" anytime soon. 😃👍❤🏍
I bought this - from probably the same two dudes from the Malibu experience center! Just got it delivered 6 hours ago. So psyched! And the roads you rode on in this video are my favorite canyon jaunts. If there was one bike specifically built just to coast down the PCH, this is it. Also, a small correction: the Livewire takes 1 hour to fully charge on Level 3 (not 1.5 hours), but they recommend charging to only 80% which is 40 mins.
You made a mistake. No sound, no gears. What’s the point?!
@@mychannel9403 I love that there is minimal sound and no gears. So much more fun, more connected with the road and surroundings and senses are much more heightened. Going through wind feels like flying versus the numbing from loud sounds. Same like the faster Tesla models, where that speed + silence is even more thrilling than speed + traditional noise. I also ride electric skateboards (high speed ones in the 60 MPH range) and my silent direct drive motors are so much more pleasing during acceleration than my straight cuts or belt drives.
It’s a very expensive scooter 🛵
@@mychannel9403 what is with you guys and making noise? Were you forced to be quiet as children?
personally I love this bike!! its my first bike EVER!!! and im enjoying the freak out of it!! I
hell yeah!
Love your content sir! I would love to see your take on a Janus motorcycle
I was at the Scottish Bike show the other weekend and the police had one of these on show. I didnt even realise it was a HD but it was a really nice looking machine.
Have you tried the energica electric bikes yet? Love their designs and very curious what papa jam thinks of them!
Riding a fully built air cooled Harley is something that just feeds the soul words don't explain. I enjoy all bikes
Earlier this week: rags before and after about the Versys 650 and it’s sound.
Later in the week: redact any reference to the (lack of) Livewire’s sound.
It’s not always about cost, sometimes it’s good not to have to service vehicles and that might be worth the extra cost.
Taking the MSF right now. I’ve seen them in person. They look GREAT!
my dad Zero is crazy. unreal beast
What a really good video. Does it change gears automatically? I didn't hear what range did you get riding the way you did?? Thank you
There are no gears, just twist the throttle and go. During winter months, my range is about 100 miles, and in the summer up to 130 miles
Drinking game for every „yeah“ 😄
That’s awesome! Would absolutely love it 9k less but that’s just my opinion. I do love the sound, really head turning if I were to hear that pass by me. It sounds like something from the terminator movies!
I like the look of this thing! It looks like something from Tron. I'm not a fan of electric, but this is pretty cool.
There’s just no replacement for the feeling of spinning past 10,000 RPM from a triple, in-line 4, or V-4. Hell even an SV650
you're not wrong, but there's also no replacement for silently disappearing into the distance
Interesting review
I have one of the bikes labelled as an ebike. Emmo Zone GTS. Been looking into either going for a full on, or going with one the bigger electric motorcycles. One of the things I've figured out, real quick, is that the greatest part of the cost is the batteries. I would imagine that the batteries on that thing are probably really good lithium, and that is a main part of the high costs. Of course, I'd also expect better for the size of it.
Looks to be way better than the Zeros. Btw have you tried, or heard of the new line of electric Damon motorcycles? Those look dope!
Great video! :)
If can do 300 kms on a single charge. Its starting to do realistic touring. I owned a triumph 07' Bonneville, with a 16 litre tank and its range was 270kms on a tank of gas. Its getting there..... one day... soonish! cheers from Australia !!!
Wow this bike is FAST!
Welcome to California, we have some amazing roads :-)
i'd like to see your range anxiety going up the canyon as opposed to riding all the way downhill.nice video
What is this? A positive, no, dare I say glowing review of a Harley Davidson designed and built motorcycle from the arch nemesis of all things MoCo? Shocking! Just shocking! I must say the electric bike experience looks so incredibly unique and out of the box with the instant power, the low hum of the motor, the stealthy nature of it all. I kinda want one. No shifting, no gears, no clutch! Yet engine braking is still a thing? If it was 16-18k I would probably get one. If, but it’s not. It’s 22k plus whatever the dealership piles on top of that. At that price I’m a hard no thanks. Especially considering the inherent problems that are unique to electric, battery powered, motorcycles. Range, weight, and charge-ability.
Time to do an Energica EVA Ribelle RS video! Don't wait until the Experia is out
Gotta try out a Damon now, they look incredible and supposed 200hp is wild
Anyone remember the Akira motorcycle? the Electric motor and battery format makes that layout an actual possibility.
Iconic. That would be a dream.
That was me in the full leathers pulled to the side of the road I swore I recognized spites pony tail lol
Buell suspension tech and frame - was a project Buell started and HD took and finished.
Alta was the best.
Here it comes: I do think y’all will like the 2022 Energica Ego or Ribelle. Quick hits: 140 miles of range at 70 mph, more if city miles. 0-80% charge in ~35 mins. Big jump in power.
And if you go with the RS model you get 0-60 in 2.6 seconds!
Could you do an episode on motorcycles with the best storage options or things like that
That bike can keep up with my hubby's 1989 Yamaha VMAX . Some bike😁
They really need to market the Long Way Up version with the Pan Am suspension.
$6.59 for gas?!! we’re paying $11.61per gallon right now here in the uk and it’s still heading up (£1.69per litre), enjoy it while you can!
so about what Hawai’ians pay
What an amazing road.
Since you mentioned how much you liked the ride, not having to think about shifting but just getting to enjoy the ride, would this make you a little more agreeable to automatics moving forward? Not having to worry about shifting and being able to enjoy the ride more is the biggest selling point for automatics.
Automatic gasser ain’t the same as a electric in my opinion
@@unknownstate5384 Of course they aren't the same, but my point was about the lack of shifting. In the past he had been "against" automatics and thought people should still learn and test on manuals. My viewpoint is why should I have to learn how to ride something I'm never going to ride. If I know I'll never want to drive manual, why should I have to? So I was just wondering if enjoying the ride on this changed his anti-automatic stance any.
running Deer freaks me out. My bike is noisy so I feel safe.
But these bikes are badass, I still want one.
Although I’m extremely happy to be back in Texas, I do miss the riding locations that California has. My favorite road was the road y’all rode on. I’d ride that road then hit up Neptune’s Net on the PCH in Malibu. Which is also the same restaurant featured in the first Fast and the Furious film after they rebuilt the Supra and raced the black Ferrari.
I don't know where in Texas you are, but Texas has a LOT of great twisty, hilly roads. You just have to know where they are. But even here in North Texas, I can leave my house and ride 30 minutes south and it's a HUGE playground of twisty two lane roads with almost zero traffic, and plenty of beautiful rolling hills and countryside for miles and miles. We make a day of it, and sometimes find a place to spend the night. The only problem though, if you're riding a Livewire, is you'd run out of juice before lunch, then you're done for the day. You might have to get a friend to follow in his truck, so he could haul the bike back home for a re-charge.
@@trevorjameson3213 oh I live in the areas you’re talking about and yeah, they’re definitely great roads but none of them offer the same scenery. I would never move back to Cali if my life depended on it but gotta give credit where credit is due
PCH is gorgeous
I noticed you guys stated the cost of filling up an ICE bike with gasoline several times, but no one ever mentions the actual cost of each charge of these EV's. That thorough comparison would really help to put cost of ownership into perspective.
This would need to include the cost of maintaining the combustion engine to be meaningful at all. And that is a lot of different items, fluids, labor costs, and they vary wildly by region and skill of the owner to do it themselves.
Overall, fuel savings is a big part of the running cost advantage of electric vehicles, but their lack of labor and maintenance intensive components is a huge part.
And then there's the finite lifespan of the battery to offset it in the long run. You can take any Harley from the 1970s that has been sitting in a (dry) garage since then and get it up and running with a modest amount of money and labor. A battery of today's best technology will last many years, or a decade probably, but if you are in 2050 and find a 2022 Livewire in a garage, it will probably be impossible to get it into drivable condition.
@@es-br8ck Haha yeah I didn't want to put that much of a burden on them. I think there's enough publication out there now to get an idea for maintenance costs (or lack thereof) and battery life and their cost to replace. I just really wanted to know the day to day cost of running the bike. I can look at my own utility bills and get an idea of cost per kW hour vs how much the battery holds on a charge, but I mainly wanted to know what the cost is at a quick charge station since 12.5 hours to charge at home is a bit out of the question.
Most Electric motorcycle review cited like 10 cent per kWh, so times the amount of battery capacity and you get your price. Just like electric stove, electric vehicles are stupidly cheap to fill.
@@victoriazero8869 oh nice, thanks for the heads up!
@@victoriazero8869 I think that's just a national standard value though, the "green energy" places you'll see with chargers are going to charge WAY more. Tesla charges $0.25/kwh, so its 2.5x that estimate and I'd bet that's going to be on the lower side.
When it's at least close to as convenient and quick to recharge as any real bike is to refuel, I'll take a look at one.
Maybe if they start building bikes with swappable batteries (and establish a net of stations to do so)...
@@nilswinkelmann9640 Swappable batteries will likely never be a thing for full sized bikes, the batteries are just too large and integral to the chassis to make any swapping system realistic. Better to just work on improving charge times. They likely will never be quite as quick as filling a tank of gas but could probably get close enough to not matter much.
You should try the FXDR 114 Harley !! I’m not a big Harley guy but would love to see what you’d say about it!!!
They have to offer a bigger deal for that price, like for example in 5 years you can swap your LiveWire for a new one for half the price, so they can repair the old one and resold it with a descount, the smartphone companies do this, this will make a wide market and you have a good start with all that money
Its not a huge savings over gas: Using Tesla's price of $0.25/kWh, and assuming battery near empty (it will take more charge than it stores since batteries are not perfect but we'll assume perfect battery), so at 15.5kwh battery that's $3.88 for a fill up, and that's apparently only good for 95 highway miles (which is about 2 gallons on a sport bike with more HP though similar enough). It doesn't seem to be hugely cheaper, but if you use the 12.5 hour charging at home you'd only pay a little over half that.
Its an improvement, but not as much as some people might hope or think it is. A lot of people don't put that many miles on bikes (and those that do enjoy super long trips, probably don't want to stop and charge every hour and a half of highway miles), so its a niche case. I think the coolest thing is probably the silence (unfortunately Harley guys like the noise and the engine vibrations between their legs, just replace that with a seat vibrator and call it a day). There is just something cool about zipping through the trees near silent, feels a bit like you're flying (either pedaling fast or casually on an ebike, its really fun, dangerous because no noise, but fun)
The silence thing - I could imagine it feeling very Ninja-like. In fact come to think of it that would be a perfect name for an electric sportbike, too bad it's already used for a line of gasoline sportbikes. I've even heard of police departments being interested in electric motorcycles (I think in discussions with Alta before Harley killed them) for their stealth capability.
The real savings come through home charging.
@@saynotop2w He mentioned that, estimated it would cut the cost in half. I'm guessing it would still be much cheaper than his estimates, especially if you have time-of-day electricity rates (I think that's becoming more common) and charging at night or whenever electricity is cheapest. Charging up an electric motorcycle at home would probably cost only a few cents. You'd also save on stuff like oil changes, and if the regenerative brakes are good you'd not need brake pads as often, but those are pretty insignificant in overall cost of ownership. Tires would be similar to a gas bike of similar power and weight (though Teslas eat through tires very quickly, I'm guessing a combination of their power and weight). For cost-comparison you could probably just assume charging it doesn't cost anything but all other costs (tires, insurance, maintenance, etc - the maintenance would be cheaper but that would compensate for ignoring electricity costs) are the same. With such, even at the current cost of gas, it would take a long time to make up for the difference in cost of this versus a comparable gas bike, especially a used one. Most people interested in saving money with an electric motorcycle - which I envision as being the lowest-cost possible commuter - could save even more with an economical used bike. Like my Suzuki GZ250 that I paid $1200 for and gets 70+ MPG, but is slow as hell.
I’d like to see you guys riding a couple of these Damon electric bikes I keep seeing ads for 😉
vaporware at the moment
Main saving is maintenance over fuel.
When I turned thirteen I got given a hayabusa jumper and I would wear it every time I could weather it was 40°c or -2°c I would wear it even while riding on the back of some huge super sport or motorcycles
riding ebikes today, and slamming on the versys engine note yesterday? Hey, how does that livewire exhaust note sound?
Love it
A decent sport tour fairing would make it a great commuter. Some of us need those stretched out ergos so it doesn't feel like my Granddaughters tricycle.
Would love to try one
Lads, your info on charge time is way out.
The charge delivery is higher on a stage 3 when the battery is low. So you can go from 10% battery to 70% battery in 25-26 minutes. The last 30% takes longer.
You can do 0% - 80% in 40-45 minutes.
0% to 100% in 60-65 minutes.
I know this because if I am doing a long run I charge to 70% and go again, only stopping for 20 -25 minutes each time.
I’d love to see you guys get your hands on a Energica Eva Ribelle RS
I was going to comment and say this too. The 2022 Eva Ribelle and Eva Ribelle RS are in a category of their own when it comes to electric motorcycles. They’ve found a way to increase 0-60 acceleration, increase range and get better charging (both fast and regular AC) all while decreasing total weight. I also love the look of them. I preordered one and can’t wait to get it. The cost is a hard pill to swallow but hey electric bikes combine two of my passions, motorcycles and tech!
Definitely
@@stephenking5159 I agree! Im waiting to see the production te1 from triumph. It’s either going to be that or a ribelle rs.
Energica is going to roast liveshite like turkey.
When are you going to do a comparison between the LIVEWIRE Delmar S2 and the Verge TS Ultra? I am looking to buy an electric motorcycle soon and I am impressed with the breakthrough technology and range of the Verge (even though it is significantly higher in price.
I'd do an electric bike before an electric car. If youre a weekend rider that stays around your home area, then it works great. Not ready for an electric car in case I need to make a long trip
When you were first taking off I thought I was tripping out because it was so silent
Can you guys do a review of the Lightning and Energica bikes next?
An electric motorcycle is like watching an awesome movie with the mute button on.....you get all of the thrills yet you are missing that awesome TXH soundtrack.....
Would you recommend a 2022 Ktm rc390 for a first bike? Only planning to track it since I live about 50 mins from a decent track
I'm surprised you guys didn't reference Long Way Up at all.
EV tech is ALMOST where we need it to be. I would want atleast 3hrs worth of riding for the simple fact that chargers are few and far between in some areas and. I do HVAC and as soon as they can get 250 miles or so out of a charge in the pickups/vans that will be the route we take forsure. Glad to see Harley have a solid EV option other than just slapping something together.
I'm with Yam. I am interested in an electric but $15,000 is about my limit.
I think you can get a new Hayabusa which has all the modern tech and a beautiful engine for about $16,500.
Sounds nice.
beautiful bike...