Tory 'citadel eroded' in catastrophic election defeat | Sir John Curtice

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  • “The foundation of the tory citadel was seriously eroded by the rise of Reform.”
    The Conservatives lost seats from people who were willing "to spread their favour" in any way that expressed "discontent", says polling expert Sir John Curtice.
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  • @grumpyoldsodinacellar3518
    @grumpyoldsodinacellar3518 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    With the greatest respect Sir John, the citadel was destroyed from within. The fish always rots from the hèad.

    • @Robc--jd6yh
      @Robc--jd6yh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Curtice made it clear what the two events were that destroyed the Conservative vote. His job is to be purely factual, impartial and non emotional and he does it a lot better than Times Radio, BBC, SKY,GB news. He has no agenda other than deliver facts and it’s hugely refreshing. The rest of us can bicker about emotions and ‘morals’ .

  • @monkeyboy8424
    @monkeyboy8424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ritchie Sunak - the Tory undertaker.

  • @peteratkin3788
    @peteratkin3788 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    its first past the post system, Labour were strategic as was LibDem.

  • @maltesetony9030
    @maltesetony9030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    John Curtice - I'd vote for him.

  • @jonathanweeks9925
    @jonathanweeks9925 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Poor John, get some sleep.

  • @-V-K-
    @-V-K- 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Will Sratmer do what is right for the country - and implement PR

    • @AlexArmstrong-c6l
      @AlexArmstrong-c6l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      NO

    • @kdhlkjhdlk
      @kdhlkjhdlk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PR would be great. Reform get 50 or so seats, and then every other party just ignore them, and they never enter in a coalition because nobody else likes them.

  • @AntonSmyth-od6rc
    @AntonSmyth-od6rc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Beautiful day even with the rain 🎉

  • @matthewcook9404
    @matthewcook9404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m absolutely certain that Farage will love living with his constituents in Clacton. The locals can’t wait for him to move house to the town,and look forward to his weekly surgeries to find out about local issues so that he can represent them in the House of Commons. 😂😂

  • @mr.mayhem7402
    @mr.mayhem7402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Reform needs to get serious and become a truly disciplined political party with serious, detailed policies that have been thoroughly thought through and properly costed so they can begin the very long journey to being taken seriously by the British public as a viable alternative to the Labour Party.

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t worry. After 5 years of woke Labour government the voters will be begging for alternatives, just like America tired of Biden real quick.

    • @hollyjenkins1500
      @hollyjenkins1500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      4 week campaign 4 million votes is crazy there will be million that haven’t heard of reform

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@hollyjenkins1500 They would have got 5 mill if it wasn’t for the Beeb & Channel 4..

    • @MicMc-vn4qt
      @MicMc-vn4qt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look at farrage pic on the thumbnail Everytime I see him I expecting him to start ranting “My precious My precious” Gollum will never be forgotten as long as farrage breaths

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MicMc-vn4qt Wow, what a subtle and penetrating argument for massive immigration.

  • @anglosaxonbreed
    @anglosaxonbreed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Labour is no good. We need to raise the bar.

  • @shirazqasim2932
    @shirazqasim2932 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sratmer should not only kiss Sunak's hands but also kiss his feet for handing him the victory on the platter

  • @EM-lz9kg
    @EM-lz9kg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great to see so many independents

  • @EM-lz9kg
    @EM-lz9kg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done Corbyn proof of grass roots support & Greens & well done to reform I don’t support them yet if that’s what ppl want

  • @susanthompson5381
    @susanthompson5381 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What farage up to now , saying he’s got something on labour he’s trouble he will not be a mp for long some one will take him down

    • @paulmillard3252
      @paulmillard3252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they won't, Nigel has more intelligence than all of the Labour MPs combined.

  • @militarymodellerpaul5932
    @militarymodellerpaul5932 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I will never vote Tory or Labour again Reform for me.

    • @Pegaroo_
      @Pegaroo_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's easy to make promises you know you will never have to keep and Farage knows that but if he can stop you from ever voting tory again then I guess it's a win

  • @PaulineTownsend-j4z
    @PaulineTownsend-j4z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I voted Labour not because I think they will do much but because that was the only way to get rid of my useless tory MP. Am I jumping for joy, no not really.

  • @seriousoldman8997
    @seriousoldman8997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clacton and Innsmouth.

    • @suedavenport8208
      @suedavenport8208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Famous horror story: the Horror over Innsmouth. I understand the title now, lol.

  • @isobelsmith2613
    @isobelsmith2613 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Farage believes his own spin. What a plonker

  • @timsimmons5953
    @timsimmons5953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Tories must make it clear to the ones that fell for farage rot what exactly the farage rot really is. Many would no longer fall for snake oil. Let them see what they would loose.

    • @MicMc-vn4qt
      @MicMc-vn4qt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Timsimmons What are u babbling about ffs Are u drinking 🍺

    • @timsimmons5953
      @timsimmons5953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MicMc-vn4qt Drinking from the cup of reason. How do you like the idea of paying to see the doctor and health care
      .

  • @Bill_Bassett2423
    @Bill_Bassett2423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Well Done to NIgel, Let the labuor voters regret begin - the next 5 years will be a shower of sh*te but then Reform

  • @blackcatmagic4090
    @blackcatmagic4090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a load of tosh.

  • @EM-lz9kg
    @EM-lz9kg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Reform will grow & grow they will be the true opposition & then most likely government. I don’t support them yet I understand why people do

  • @phillloyd2519
    @phillloyd2519 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Nigel got 4 seats. Calm down.

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yes but he got 15% of the vote...😮

    • @louisdisbury9759
      @louisdisbury9759 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but he destroyed the Consevatives and in the next 5 years will represent the opposition,True democracy the same as the referendum but you have an element in the UK that cant accept that.

    • @mrb.5610
      @mrb.5610 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@anonUKGot a chance to vote to change the system to PR and we chose not to.

    • @Cannon_Fodder_Russians
      @Cannon_Fodder_Russians 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Farage the Fraudster better look over his shoulder and stay away from Russian tea houses.🤣4 lousy seats like the tree hugging Greens. He promised Putin so much and he delivered so little.

    • @Cannon_Fodder_Russians
      @Cannon_Fodder_Russians 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anonUK That means absolutely NOTHING. He got only 4 seats. He is as relevant as the green party snowflakes❄and they hug trees and eat Tofu. Get ready for at least 15 years of Labour the peoples party rule.
      #MESA #Make_England_Socialist_Again

  • @EM-lz9kg
    @EM-lz9kg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸

  • @jonrotten31
    @jonrotten31 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Farage for PM. Simple as