RMC is an excellent jacket product. The Japanese became obsessed with the WWII American flight jackets. So the quality is amazing. One thing you should know about the A-2. They are not all the same. Multiple wartime makers had slight differences their patterns. Your particular jacket is early war. They were much slimmer and tapered in fit. Also, your jacket is modeled after the Rough Wear brand. One feature of their jackets is the use of a collar stand. Its why your jacket's collar sits higher. Later contracts by other makers eliminated it. They lay flatter. An observation on your jacket. Your shoulder width is a bit narrow. You'd be served better with more. Yes, the jacket will relax. Many of us A-2 wearers will sleep in them or spray outer with water and wear til air dried to give a better molded fit. You are fortunate you have two premier jacket makers in the UK. Aero in Scotland and Eastman Leather. Both have websites and very customer service oriented. The damn covid lockdowns prevent factory visits, but I encourage you to check them out. Their experts can tell you more about these jackets than this space provides. Great choice and best to you!
Thanks so much for your reply! Very thoughtful and such good info. I think my Mrs would kick me out of bed though if i got in with an A2 on hah. I did not know that about the collar stand, makes so much sense too, so thank you. And good to know it will relax over time in the shoulders. I've worn it in the drizzle rain a few times and certainly don't baby it. Would love to visit Aero some day soon though. Thanks again for watching and commenting! Cam
Its a killer A2 by one of the best makers out there. I'm wearing a horsehide A2 as I watch your vid. Yours is an extremely nice fit and looks really good when worn. These jackets are made to last a lifetime...and will. My other A2 is a custom job done in black with black knits, black lining that I've had for 23 years...and will get it back into rotation when i break in this horsehide tank of a jacket. Don't sell, give away or trade your jacket, you'll regret it as they only get better with age.Wear it in good health...
Cheers Ken, I'm loving it more and more of late. Wore it out today and got caught in a small downpour and just went with it. It's been super warm and is surprisingly fantastic at stopping the wind. Never selling, never trading. It's with me for life. My hope is to pass it down to my kids some day.
Aero leather, Lost World Inc. Have awesome sleeveless vests. Aero leather is based in Scotland and have very reasonably priced jackets/vests! Have a look!
I just discovered your channel ! It's so nice to have something like that with high brands like mccoy's. Thanks for sharing all those details and your thoughts :)
The more you look at this, you can see the design is very specific to the actual wartime application. The cooler environment on the sea for naval aviators led to the mouton collar on the G-1, the A-2 would have been worn typically along with a wool twill uniform shirt (which re-enactor sites actually do sell even today), and an undershit. This works okay for a fighter aircraft even if it flies at 20,000 feet for a while, but it would have been too weak an insulator for crews on bombers which have plenty of time in air at around 20,000 ft. They also get drafts flowing through the aircraft which are super cold. Thus you see the bomber crews were outfitted with shearling lined or faced very warm jackets (both USA and British had their own). It's all form follows function. The pockets were specifically designed this way so pilots were NOT to be standing around with their hands in their pockets. Gibson and Barnes makes a very nice "CIVIL" version of both the A-2 and G-1, which has hand warmer side entry slash pockets (lined) which absolutely helps make the jacket easier for civilians to wear day-to-day. I have G&B's Civil A-2 and love it. It is well made of excellent Goatskin hide by this company in Southern California. The founder was a USMC aviator and obviously caters to the professional pilot crowd (they sell helmets, jumpsuits, mic rigs, boots, everything a pilot would really care about).
It’s certainly a beautiful jacket. However I’m conflicted about it due to functionality. As you mentioned, having side entry pockets is such a natural feature for a jacket. A few A-2 designs actually have welted side entry pockets that sit behind the patch pockets and are invisible, keeping the original design yet adding that needed function. I feel that pocket feature with the addition of an interior welted chest pocket for stowing your phone, passport, or wallet would truly make this the jacket to beat. I really hope they release a more functional piece in the future.
Totally hear you, and if i'm honest even this many years in I won't say i'm 100% in love. The pockets being the big downside for me. I actually didn't know some had pockets, I'm certainly going to look into that so thank you! Deep down though I know this thing will last years and years and it is a lovely jacket, but as you say, the functionality does play on my mind and it isn't always my first choice when heading out. Though I'm excited how it will fit and look a long time down the track.
Ask Alexander from noble house Germany .He added pockets for functionality and added length in the waist so you can wear them with low rise pants.( I don't understand the appeal to have a so short jacket that you freeze on the back ).The jackets were never intended for low rising pants they were for suspender flight pants .
A2 jackets like the TheRealMcCoy, Eastman, Bill Kelso, etc. are very accurate reproductions of the original A2 military contract jackets. They are not supposed to have a pocket for any mobile or the likes. They are supposed to be as close as possible to the original. If someone is looking for a functional jacket from today´s point of view, then these jackets are simply the wrong choice. Then again, Shinki leather was sure not the first choice in war times...
@@olgi2068 I understand they aim for true reproduction, but there doesn't seem to be many brands that obsess the materials and craftsmanship quite like The Real McCoy's. For willing buyers, they could, and in my opinion should, offer a jacket that has been updated to reflect modern utility. Everything suggested would have very minimal outward deviation from the original design. For someone like me, there's more intrinsic value knowing it can accommodate my needs than in experiencing the jacket exactly as a WWII pilot would. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I doubt it.
@@georgehaney9714 You´r e not in a minority, quite the opposite. Most ppl wouldn´t care for accuracy of a repro. But there´s so many other brands that can provide you with your need that I simply don´t get the point of asking for RM to change their jackets so as to fit your requirements. It is like buying a true Willys Jeep, a Land Rover, or a BMX X5. Just pick the right item for you. Just to give you an example: Aero leather has an A2 repro and, as an interesting alternative, the "happy days" model that is built on the A2 shape but has handwarmer pockets and inside pockets.If you want excellent craftsmanship and the option to custom fit, simply look at Himel Bros, Aero Leather, Bill Kelso... I think my major point is, I find it rather disturbing that an iconic product gets changed in such way. It is a bit how we got from the iconic 911 Porsche to a lame Cayman or Cayenne. But that is just my opinion and there is no personal offense meant at all.
Also, it is customary to have the collar unbuttoned. That is how they wore it in the day. Mine is unbuttoned and helps with the look and also the issue of the neck
I have an A-2 jacket made by Bill Kelso which I believe is a UK company but makes their jackets in Greece. They helped me order the correct size for the fit I wanted, it looks amazing and was well worth the wait (about 4 months for me). I love it because I am a pilot and aviation enthusiast and the jacket makes me look just like WWII air crews. I love that people are enthusiastic about extremely high-quality clothes that last a lifetime, and buying clothes you really love instead of settling for what's cheap. We forget that until very recently people used to buy few clothes that they'd wear for many years, but nowadays it's all about the companies profiting from selling extremely cheap, fragile clothes for much more than they cost to make. If someone has the money and is interested, they should support companies that make high-quality clothes to help them win against fast fashion.
13:27 Very nice jacket indeed. I have the same one in size 40. The "grievance" of yours I believe is due to its design, something like it's being cut as in a shirt so that, actually, the front should overlap as if you're buttoning it up, like your shirt. I maybe wrong; just that's what I heard. Mine also look asymmetric viewed from front, one side kind of dangling and naturally stays lower than the other.
Thanks man. Yeah, take a look at my recent video a few weeks ago. I did an update and it sits a lot better 2 years on. Hope yours is looking good? You get much wear showing through?
@@CameronO this is grown man stuff, hence you can’t find any one talking about it. Can you do a review of some Burgus Plus and things like that in the future please?
@@luyolomify Haha i love it! true though, glad you guys find it helpful. I must say I've not looked into Burgus Plus. What are they known for most? What items?
I hear you regarding the sleeves and the collar issues. I find my Indy jacket that’s now more than 35 years old checks all the boxes. Comfortable and roomy enough for a sweater in colder weather. I never wear my A2. I bought my Indy jacket from Wested in the pre Internet days.
I have an original USN jacket, there are differences, yours seems to be cow hide, mine is goatskin, which is heavy but extremely soft and flexible, mine also has the bi-swing action back shoulders which change the fit and way it drapes on me, the open zip is parallel, also the upper body is cut with more room as are the sleeves for a heavy sweater, but still comfortable with a T, the collar on mine is soft brown fur on the areas of contact all across the front, with goatskin back, zipper is brass, the cuffs and bottom are wool, one sleeve cuff on mine has a moth hole, I have matching pants because I ride.
if you wonder about the thickness apply coconut oil. that will make it nice a pliable even for horse leather or steerhide. I have a few jackets that I got for a steal secondhand, but hearing you don't wear it as often as you like to makes me sad. Even when the pricetag is that high. If you need a place to put your hands pair it with a hoodie and wear it regularly. Really fit you well but you won't wear it that often when your only are able to pair it with a t-shirt. That will change with the oil applied and later stretch out.
Hi Cameron! I've watched this video maybe 4 times already and decided to go for it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! One thing I am wondering is that if you know the differences between the Real Mccoy's house model (model 220) vs their Rough Wear model, in terms of fit, and material? Thanks!
The reason you're having an inverted triangle when the jacket is unbuttoned is that the silhouette on the jacket is made in such a manner in which the chest-to-waist ratio is overly emphasized in a waist's favor. This is a deliberate move for the jacket to fit as many bodies as possible, and the reason the cut is unflattering is due to waist measurement is way too large when compared to the chest. Taking your jacket to a tailor to reduce the size of the waist would improve the fit drastically. However, by doing so you'll get a better fit, but the value of the piece will go down, and you might not be able to sell it for the fraction of the price you've bought it--so keep that in mind. Chest will stretch, but not so drastically that changes in the fit shall be visible. It'll more conform to your body than it'll stretch. But you're probably reaching the given conclusion by your own reasoning, accounting for the experience wearin' |t. Good L!
Thanks for the detailed write up. Never thought of it that way so thanks! looks a lot better now a few years on from this vid. Did a small update a few months back if you want to see how it drapes now
@@CameronO The jacket is far from bad--there's no arguing about it. Quality is top-notch, the coloring is made perfectly, and the fit is far from bad, but the paradox of getting into fashion is stated down below: The more you're investing in clothes, the more you notice what works with your proportions--- and what doesn't work as well. That's a good thing, but it's also quite problematic, as you develop an emotional connection to the fits you like because those emphasize the shape of your body in such a manner in which you get positive feedback from broader society, which in return makes you feel pretty good about yourself. The problem emerges as once you know what fits you perfectly, you'll get way more rigid and strict, and everything which doesn't fot close to a perfection just isn't good enough, even if the fit is fairly decent. At that point, you notice every tiny detail, and you cannot get over it; it bothers you, and it's gonna keep going on y nerves. Happened to me before. Bought a good, functional quality piece, and fitted fairly decent, but never quite liked it. Stayed in the closet more than I wore it. Later, I bought cheaper alternatives with a better fit. Nowadays, I'm getting my jacket MTM. I'm quite strict when it comes to jacket length (like a slightly more cropped look).
Just saw this on your lucky box vid. It's good man, sits well on ya. Try the Aero Leather one if you ever get the chance. Also decent! but this RMC is sick!
No problems, Jim. Its the reason i made it. I had no info when deciding on mine! Good luck. Wore mine this weekend as it was warm. LOVED it with a flannel underneath!
I'v got piece on the way, but really concern the size. Im not sure the exacted size number I should take, I got 178cm height, around75kg weight, I took 38! hope that could be fit.
It's definitely a beautiful jacket but it doesn't seem comfortable or functional. It would be nice to style it with a nice sweater but then again the sleeves are too tight. It looks very fitted, maybe too fitted. Definitely look into buying a lamb leather jacket. They're sooo comfortable! Great review, man.
Hey Roger, totally get what you're saying, and in a way you are correct. As it's still 'new' in the sense i don't wear it everyday, the leather isn't as soft as say a vintage one. It's a jacket that over time will just mould to me and soften up. In that, leather being leather I see it relaxing a bit over time. It is super comfortable to wear though. Lamb jacket sounds interesting, any brands I should look at? Thanks for watching too, be sure to subscribe. Hopefully it will have softened up next vid i share of it hah.
@@CameronO so I have lamb leather flight jacket that I purchased from a small artisan leather shop in tlaquepaque, MX. They're pretty reasonable in price. Look up casapiel.com.mx mine was around 160 dollars. Yeah, pretty cheap.
Lamb leather is soft out of the box... But I don't think it'll be very durable if you wear the jacket with any regularity. You can't kill horsehide. It'll soften up but it'll fight you 😉
Lamb leather jackets are nice and soft but the A2 jacket Cameron has there is in a different league. That's top tier horse leather which will be around for generations and will look better and better with age. The style is timeless, and the cut will conform better and better with the years.
Brilliant thanks. Always wanted one but just needed more bottle .Yours seems a bit small but as you said , fit and as I think it will stretch out as time goes on Lucky kids ( you can leave to the kids ) when the that happens Great post cheers pal
@@CameronO True, there were several suppliers during the war, with different cuts and fits. But on average the fit was slimmer, since the average person was slimmer.
Great informative video! I have the same jacket and it’s still new so it’s still really stiff and boxy. Did you feel like yours loosened up everywhere after the leather breaks in? Mine is perfect everywhere except the shoulders feel a touch tight. Thanks!
Thanks mate! How old is yours? It 100% loosens up, you may not notice it until you think back and remember the boxy days! I think i mention my arm pits feel a bit tight, but that was also a lot worse when i got it. I was self conscious when i first wore it. But It basically moulds to you over time. Cannot wait to see how mine looks and feels in 10-20 years. At the end of the day, it's leather and will stretch and fit you better as time goes on. Wear in good health!
Cameron O Thanks for the reply! That’s good to hear it loosens up. Mine is brand new, it’s only been worn twice. Will definitely have to put some breaking into it! Cheers!
Cool jacket but I hate epaulets. Sacrilege, but I'd tailor it to remove the epaulets,add a double zipper, and make the collar a bomber style in cotton to match the waist and wrist. It might be more comfortable too.
Fair call. I don;t really mind the epaulets. I guess its from its military heritage. Im sure there are a few jackets out there that can fit your bill? Dehen do a nice Flyers Club Jacket. Kind of more a bomber but no epaulets and has a the ribbed cuffs and waist
Sure, one can also equip a Ferrari with a tow coupling... Comes in super handy when one drives to the camping place. ;-) Come on, this is such a beautiful and highly accurate repro of a wartime military contract A2 bomber jacket (except they didn´t have the option of using Shinki Horsehide by then). There is NOTHING to change on that jacket.
Oui c'est du cheval ! Théoriquement c'est la meilleure marque de blouson en cuir au monde... Ce modèle, le A2, est leur modèle le plus réputé. C'est un peu le Saint Graal pour les amateurs de Flight Jacket ^^
Hey Louis, Yeah, i generally am 42. I have 42 in flannels and one or two other things (i'll post later). But I make a habit of measuring now. I just got a chore coat and I'm a 44.. Though also depends if i want it to have a shirt under or something thicker. I'll post the chore overshirt video this week. Might also do a video on all my jackets soon.. Thanks for watching!
I know I am a bit late with this comment, but hope it help anyway. I just got a European made repro A2, made to the original specs. WWII cut is not that comfortable to what we are used to today - I am a XL, but got mine in XXL, and it it still snug. Part of the design, of course, but something to keep in mind.
Hey mate, I'm honestly not sure to be honest. There might be some language barriers there. Maybe try Aero Leather, they seem do custom jackets and have a great reputation!
Beautiful thank you for reporting back. You got a really nice fit. In terms of how it fits on your waist, it’s the ribbing that will stretch as you wear it. If you were to have more room at the bottom it would look like an bag. It’s just the style of the jacket.
Hey mate, personally I would say not too much. I've been caught out wearing it when the weather got too warm. I was sweating. Just something to keep in mind.
Good info! It seems like they run quite small for the sizing, then? I’m 185 and 88kg, will a 44 be more in my ballpark? I would like to be able to use a thin/medium sweatshirt or flanell under.
Very nice video! I have owned so many real McCoy’s items, and have the same jacket and an an-j-3a. both are lovely but the temperature issue is real! If you’re looking for fun and functional, take a look at Belstaff, I also have many many belstaff jackets and they cater to more every day use. Also have history and classic styling depending on what you get (or check out matchless, which is the old belstaff owners)
Thanks Joel, appreciate the comments. So funny you mention Belstaff. I just started watching Long Way Up on Apple+ with Ewan McGregor and noticed they teamed up with Belstaff. Seems super durable considering they are riding through such harsh environments! So ill check them out. Thanks again and cheers for the sub!
lovely Jacket they last a lifetime or 2! I have an Aero A-2 and B-3 and a few vintage Avirex the better ones.. but my pride and joy is my real ww2 G-1 jacket that flew over Germany in 1944 horsehide is incredible the jacket its still supple and it has the patina only time creates.. Cheers from Salt Lake City!
Your jacket looks too new. Mine looks like it’s been through several wars. Wear it and throw it in the corner when you’re done. The more you abuse it the better it looks. Enjoy 👍
the leather and the lining really show quality, in my eyes the cutting specially collar is off. u have good athletic body and good lookin face, and this jacket not make u more appealing. just being honest opinion here. love ur video man !
Can you do another video with you wearing some Levi’s jeans and a fully zipped up leather biker jacket?? Show full front and backsides of yourself in them both 🙏🙏🙏
imagine buying a £2000 jacket and have nothing but complaints about it... this guy is miserable and wasting all his money on many people's dream jacket just to never wear it and complain about every detail of it. sad
RMC is an excellent jacket product. The Japanese became obsessed with the WWII American flight jackets. So the quality is amazing.
One thing you should know about the A-2. They are not all the same. Multiple wartime makers had slight differences their patterns. Your particular jacket is early war. They were much slimmer and tapered in fit. Also, your jacket is modeled after the Rough Wear brand. One feature of their jackets is the use of a collar stand. Its why your jacket's collar sits higher. Later contracts by other makers eliminated it. They lay flatter.
An observation on your jacket. Your shoulder width is a bit narrow. You'd be served better with more. Yes, the jacket will relax. Many of us A-2 wearers will sleep in them or spray outer with water and wear til air dried to give a better molded fit.
You are fortunate you have two premier jacket makers in the UK. Aero in Scotland and Eastman Leather. Both have websites and very customer service oriented. The damn covid lockdowns prevent factory visits, but I encourage you to check them out. Their experts can tell you more about these jackets than this space provides.
Great choice and best to you!
Thanks so much for your reply! Very thoughtful and such good info. I think my Mrs would kick me out of bed though if i got in with an A2 on hah. I did not know that about the collar stand, makes so much sense too, so thank you. And good to know it will relax over time in the shoulders. I've worn it in the drizzle rain a few times and certainly don't baby it. Would love to visit Aero some day soon though. Thanks again for watching and commenting!
Cam
Its a killer A2 by one of the best makers out there. I'm wearing a horsehide A2 as I watch your vid. Yours is an extremely nice fit and looks really good when worn. These jackets are made to last a lifetime...and will. My other A2 is a custom job done in black with black knits, black lining that I've had for 23 years...and will get it back into rotation when i break in this horsehide tank of a jacket. Don't sell, give away or trade your jacket, you'll regret it as they only get better with age.Wear it in good health...
Cheers Ken, I'm loving it more and more of late. Wore it out today and got caught in a small downpour and just went with it. It's been super warm and is surprisingly fantastic at stopping the wind. Never selling, never trading. It's with me for life. My hope is to pass it down to my kids some day.
Aero leather, Lost World Inc. Have awesome sleeveless vests. Aero leather is based in Scotland and have very reasonably priced jackets/vests! Have a look!
I just discovered your channel ! It's so nice to have something like that with high brands like mccoy's. Thanks for sharing all those details and your thoughts :)
You're welcome buddy. Thanks for watching!
The more you look at this, you can see the design is very specific to the actual wartime application. The cooler environment on the sea for naval aviators led to the mouton collar on the G-1, the A-2 would have been worn typically along with a wool twill uniform shirt (which re-enactor sites actually do sell even today), and an undershit. This works okay for a fighter aircraft even if it flies at 20,000 feet for a while, but it would have been too weak an insulator for crews on bombers which have plenty of time in air at around 20,000 ft. They also get drafts flowing through the aircraft which are super cold. Thus you see the bomber crews were outfitted with shearling lined or faced very warm jackets (both USA and British had their own). It's all form follows function. The pockets were specifically designed this way so pilots were NOT to be standing around with their hands in their pockets. Gibson and Barnes makes a very nice "CIVIL" version of both the A-2 and G-1, which has hand warmer side entry slash pockets (lined) which absolutely helps make the jacket easier for civilians to wear day-to-day. I have G&B's Civil A-2 and love it. It is well made of excellent Goatskin hide by this company in Southern California. The founder was a USMC aviator and obviously caters to the professional pilot crowd (they sell helmets, jumpsuits, mic rigs, boots, everything a pilot would really care about).
It’s certainly a beautiful jacket. However I’m conflicted about it due to functionality. As you mentioned, having side entry pockets is such a natural feature for a jacket. A few A-2 designs actually have welted side entry pockets that sit behind the patch pockets and are invisible, keeping the original design yet adding that needed function. I feel that pocket feature with the addition of an interior welted chest pocket for stowing your phone, passport, or wallet would truly make this the jacket to beat. I really hope they release a more functional piece in the future.
Totally hear you, and if i'm honest even this many years in I won't say i'm 100% in love. The pockets being the big downside for me. I actually didn't know some had pockets, I'm certainly going to look into that so thank you! Deep down though I know this thing will last years and years and it is a lovely jacket, but as you say, the functionality does play on my mind and it isn't always my first choice when heading out. Though I'm excited how it will fit and look a long time down the track.
Ask Alexander from noble house Germany .He added pockets for functionality and added length in the waist so you can wear them with low rise pants.( I don't understand the appeal to have a so short jacket that you freeze on the back ).The jackets were never intended for low rising pants they were for suspender flight pants .
A2 jackets like the TheRealMcCoy, Eastman, Bill Kelso, etc. are very accurate reproductions of the original A2 military contract jackets. They are not supposed to have a pocket for any mobile or the likes. They are supposed to be as close as possible to the original. If someone is looking for a functional jacket from today´s point of view, then these jackets are simply the wrong choice.
Then again, Shinki leather was sure not the first choice in war times...
@@olgi2068 I understand they aim for true reproduction, but there doesn't seem to be many brands that obsess the materials and craftsmanship quite like The Real McCoy's. For willing buyers, they could, and in my opinion should, offer a jacket that has been updated to reflect modern utility. Everything suggested would have very minimal outward deviation from the original design. For someone like me, there's more intrinsic value knowing it can accommodate my needs than in experiencing the jacket exactly as a WWII pilot would. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I doubt it.
@@georgehaney9714 You´r e not in a minority, quite the opposite. Most ppl wouldn´t care for accuracy of a repro. But there´s so many other brands that can provide you with your need that I simply don´t get the point of asking for RM to change their jackets so as to fit your requirements. It is like buying a true Willys Jeep, a Land Rover, or a BMX X5. Just pick the right item for you. Just to give you an example: Aero leather has an A2 repro and, as an interesting alternative, the "happy days" model that is built on the A2 shape but has handwarmer pockets and inside pockets.If you want excellent craftsmanship and the option to custom fit, simply look at Himel Bros, Aero Leather, Bill Kelso...
I think my major point is, I find it rather disturbing that an iconic product gets changed in such way. It is a bit how we got from the iconic 911 Porsche to a lame Cayman or Cayenne. But that is just my opinion and there is no personal offense meant at all.
Also, it is customary to have the collar unbuttoned. That is how they wore it in the day. Mine is unbuttoned and helps with the look and also the issue of the neck
I'll admit, i did not know that. I'll give it a go unbuttoned and see how it feels. Thanks for the info mate!
@@CameronO the snap downs on the collars were used by pilots when flying, this kept the collar from flapping into ones face from the wind..
I have an A-2 jacket made by Bill Kelso which I believe is a UK company but makes their jackets in Greece. They helped me order the correct size for the fit I wanted, it looks amazing and was well worth the wait (about 4 months for me). I love it because I am a pilot and aviation enthusiast and the jacket makes me look just like WWII air crews.
I love that people are enthusiastic about extremely high-quality clothes that last a lifetime, and buying clothes you really love instead of settling for what's cheap. We forget that until very recently people used to buy few clothes that they'd wear for many years, but nowadays it's all about the companies profiting from selling extremely cheap, fragile clothes for much more than they cost to make. If someone has the money and is interested, they should support companies that make high-quality clothes to help them win against fast fashion.
So… I have now the A2 in canyon red! What a beautiful jacket!!! Love the leather! It’s just incredible 😍😍😍
Lovely London weather. I live in SF Bay Area, rarely have chance to wear any of my 7 leather jackets.
Haha yeah, always wet and raining here usually. Is that because it's too hot in SF? Not been there as yet.
@@CameronO not too hot not cold neither. it may get around 10c in Winter but that's it. You should visit here when the Covid thing's gone.
13:27 Very nice jacket indeed. I have the same one in size 40. The "grievance" of yours I believe is due to its design, something like it's being cut as in a shirt so that, actually, the front should overlap as if you're buttoning it up, like your shirt. I maybe wrong; just that's what I heard. Mine also look asymmetric viewed from front, one side kind of dangling and naturally stays lower than the other.
Thanks man. Yeah, take a look at my recent video a few weeks ago. I did an update and it sits a lot better 2 years on. Hope yours is looking good? You get much wear showing through?
A FILSON WOOL VEST WOULD BE GREAT! I HAVE THE SAME JACKET !! ANYTHING JAPAN MAKES IS AWESOME!!
Agreed David! I'll check our the Filson vest. Thanks man!
@@CameronO this is grown man stuff, hence you can’t find any one talking about it. Can you do a review of some Burgus Plus and things like that in the future please?
@@luyolomify Haha i love it! true though, glad you guys find it helpful. I must say I've not looked into Burgus Plus. What are they known for most? What items?
I hear you regarding the sleeves and the collar issues. I find my Indy jacket that’s now more than 35 years old checks all the boxes. Comfortable and roomy enough for a sweater in colder weather. I never wear my A2. I bought my Indy jacket from Wested in the pre Internet days.
Which one did you get? Raiders or temple of doom?
@@rdr2v1nce7 Raiders. When I bought mine that was the only option. I like it.
Nice. Do an update when you’re in your 60s. And that 42mm Moonwatch certainly makes any cuff feel tighter.
Your body will conk out before that jacket. Quality piece 👏
Should be able to undo the collar so it relaxes a bit away from your neck. The originals have hooks but I think those have buttons maybe?
I have an original USN jacket, there are differences, yours seems to be cow hide, mine is goatskin, which is heavy but extremely soft and flexible, mine also has the bi-swing action back shoulders which change the fit and way it drapes on me, the open zip is parallel, also the upper body is cut with more room as are the sleeves for a heavy sweater, but still comfortable with a T, the collar on mine is soft brown fur on the areas of contact all across the front, with goatskin back, zipper is brass, the cuffs and bottom are wool, one sleeve cuff on mine has a moth hole, I have matching pants because I ride.
Thanks Larry, I bet that leather is nice and soft given it's wear? Thanks for the info. Good to compare!
It’s horsehide Larry
Horsehide....
if you wonder about the thickness apply coconut oil. that will make it nice a pliable even for horse leather or steerhide. I have a few jackets that I got for a steal secondhand, but hearing you don't wear it as often as you like to makes me sad. Even when the pricetag is that high. If you need a place to put your hands pair it with a hoodie and wear it regularly. Really fit you well but you won't wear it that often when your only are able to pair it with a t-shirt. That will change with the oil applied and later stretch out.
Hi Cameron! I've watched this video maybe 4 times already and decided to go for it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
One thing I am wondering is that if you know the differences between the Real Mccoy's house model (model 220) vs their Rough Wear model, in terms of fit, and material?
Thanks!
Beware these jackets run really small. Size up at least one size, if not two.
The reason you're having an inverted triangle when the jacket is unbuttoned is that the silhouette on the jacket is made in such a manner in which the chest-to-waist ratio is overly emphasized in a waist's favor. This is a deliberate move for the jacket to fit as many bodies as possible, and the reason the cut is unflattering is due to waist measurement is way too large when compared to the chest.
Taking your jacket to a tailor to reduce the size of the waist would improve the fit drastically.
However, by doing so you'll get a better fit, but the value of the piece will go down, and you might not be able to sell it for the fraction of the price you've bought it--so keep that in mind.
Chest will stretch, but not so drastically that changes in the fit shall be visible. It'll more conform to your body than it'll stretch.
But you're probably reaching the given conclusion by your own reasoning, accounting for the experience wearin' |t.
Good L!
Thanks for the detailed write up. Never thought of it that way so thanks! looks a lot better now a few years on from this vid. Did a small update a few months back if you want to see how it drapes now
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The jacket is far from bad--there's no arguing about it. Quality is top-notch, the coloring is made perfectly, and the fit is far from bad, but the paradox of getting into fashion is stated down below:
The more you're investing in clothes, the more you notice what works with your proportions--- and what doesn't work as well.
That's a good thing, but it's also quite problematic, as you develop an emotional connection to the fits you like because those emphasize the shape of your body in such a manner in which you get positive feedback from broader society, which in return makes you feel pretty good about yourself.
The problem emerges as once you know what fits you perfectly, you'll get way more rigid and strict, and everything which doesn't fot close to a perfection just isn't good enough, even if the fit is fairly decent. At that point, you notice every tiny detail, and you cannot get over it; it bothers you, and it's gonna keep going on y nerves.
Happened to me before. Bought a good, functional quality piece, and fitted fairly decent, but never quite liked it. Stayed in the closet more than I wore it.
Later, I bought cheaper alternatives with a better fit.
Nowadays, I'm getting my jacket MTM. I'm quite strict when it comes to jacket length (like a slightly more cropped look).
Great video. Also do you have any info about Vintage Creeks Leather Jacket M A-2 Flight Bomber ? I cant find any information of this jacket. Thanks
Just saw this on your lucky box vid. It's good man, sits well on ya. Try the Aero Leather one if you ever get the chance. Also decent! but this RMC is sick!
Thanks again man. I've always wanted to try ANY other A2, not just Aero. So will do one day. For now I am happy with this guy.
Great jacket. Really. But I love so much Schott jackets...
I need to try one for sure!
If you want to condition it use obenauf liquid bees wax. It's what I use on my coat.
Nice jacket for sure. But a few to many have-to-get-used-tos for a fullprice jacket if you ask me...
Thank you for this review....exactly what I have been looking for to help me decide
No problems, Jim. Its the reason i made it. I had no info when deciding on mine! Good luck. Wore mine this weekend as it was warm. LOVED it with a flannel underneath!
What is your height and weight?What's the jacket size?
Beautiful jacket. Could u write again the name of your pocket tee please? Thank u
Hey Giuseppe. It is the UES Ramayana - www.rivetandhide.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=UES+Ramayana+Pocket+T+shirt
Best t-shirt i own!
I'v got piece on the way, but really concern the size. Im not sure the exacted size number I should take, I got 178cm height, around75kg weight, I took 38! hope that could be fit.
It's definitely a beautiful jacket but it doesn't seem comfortable or functional. It would be nice to style it with a nice sweater but then again the sleeves are too tight. It looks very fitted, maybe too fitted. Definitely look into buying a lamb leather jacket. They're sooo comfortable! Great review, man.
Hey Roger, totally get what you're saying, and in a way you are correct. As it's still 'new' in the sense i don't wear it everyday, the leather isn't as soft as say a vintage one. It's a jacket that over time will just mould to me and soften up. In that, leather being leather I see it relaxing a bit over time. It is super comfortable to wear though. Lamb jacket sounds interesting, any brands I should look at? Thanks for watching too, be sure to subscribe. Hopefully it will have softened up next vid i share of it hah.
@@CameronO so I have lamb leather flight jacket that I purchased from a small artisan leather shop in tlaquepaque, MX. They're pretty reasonable in price. Look up casapiel.com.mx mine was around 160 dollars. Yeah, pretty cheap.
Lamb leather is soft out of the box... But I don't think it'll be very durable if you wear the jacket with any regularity. You can't kill horsehide. It'll soften up but it'll fight you 😉
Lamb leather jackets are nice and soft but the A2 jacket Cameron has there is in a different league. That's top tier horse leather which will be around for generations and will look better and better with age. The style is timeless, and the cut will conform better and better with the years.
Brilliant thanks. Always wanted one but just needed more bottle .Yours seems a bit small but as you said , fit and as I think it will stretch out as time goes on Lucky kids ( you can leave to the kids ) when the that happens Great post cheers pal
Cheers Sean. Glad you enjoyed it!
They shrink in the arms and back but stretch in the shoulder
You mentioned the war time a2's were more bulky in the chest area, but as far as I know they were more form fitting than the modern ones.
Oh really? I know each brand has different cuts and fits, but good to know!
@@CameronO True, there were several suppliers during the war, with different cuts and fits. But on average the fit was slimmer, since the average person was slimmer.
Why did you choose real mccoys over eastman? just wondering.
Hey man. I was in Japan and in the store. Not tried Eastman yet still.
@@CameronO Ok, thanks for the reply!
Great jacet! Got the B-10 from The Real Mccoy`s and it is fantastic. Awesome brand.
Agreed!
Hi there .. You mention the A2 is a size 42" what size chest are you ?.. I have an old old RMC A2 which as you say , its very blowsy in the chest
I have one too，size 42
Nice, how old is it? Holding up well?
@@CameronO Bought in 2019. It's a new one. This A2 is really handsome
Great informative video! I have the same jacket and it’s still new so it’s still really stiff and boxy. Did you feel like yours loosened up everywhere after the leather breaks in? Mine is perfect everywhere except the shoulders feel a touch tight. Thanks!
Thanks mate! How old is yours? It 100% loosens up, you may not notice it until you think back and remember the boxy days! I think i mention my arm pits feel a bit tight, but that was also a lot worse when i got it. I was self conscious when i first wore it. But It basically moulds to you over time. Cannot wait to see how mine looks and feels in 10-20 years. At the end of the day, it's leather and will stretch and fit you better as time goes on. Wear in good health!
Cameron O Thanks for the reply! That’s good to hear it loosens up. Mine is brand new, it’s only been worn twice. Will definitely have to put some breaking into it! Cheers!
perhaps try wearing it while sleeping for 1 month...
Cool jacket but I hate epaulets. Sacrilege, but I'd tailor it to remove the epaulets,add a double zipper, and make the collar a bomber style in cotton to match the waist and wrist. It might be more comfortable too.
Fair call. I don;t really mind the epaulets. I guess its from its military heritage. Im sure there are a few jackets out there that can fit your bill? Dehen do a nice Flyers Club Jacket. Kind of more a bomber but no epaulets and has a the ribbed cuffs and waist
Sure, one can also equip a Ferrari with a tow coupling... Comes in super handy when one drives to the camping place. ;-)
Come on, this is such a beautiful and highly accurate repro of a wartime military contract A2 bomber jacket (except they didn´t have the option of using Shinki Horsehide by then). There is NOTHING to change on that jacket.
@@olgi2068 actually this jacket is not accurate at all. Its a Japanese take on an A2. Go for Goodwear or Eastman if you are looking for accuracy.
Hi I checked out the Real McCoy's Japan website but they don't send their products outside of Japan. Which other sites can I order from? Thanks
Check RMC London. Or Clutch Cafe. The links should be in the description.
Finding the right temperature/weather to wear a leather jacket is not easy indeed !
Hello,
Thks for the perfect review?
Is it horsehide ?
Good investment?
Oui c'est du cheval ! Théoriquement c'est la meilleure marque de blouson en cuir au monde... Ce modèle, le A2, est leur modèle le plus réputé. C'est un peu le Saint Graal pour les amateurs de Flight Jacket ^^
What a beauty!
Thank you!
How tall are you (cm)? you bought it in 42, don´t you?
yeah 42 and am 186cm? 6ft basically
@@CameronO it is the Model 220, isn‘t it?
Hey mate, how is your normal size on other jackets in general ? Always 42 ?
Hey Louis, Yeah, i generally am 42. I have 42 in flannels and one or two other things (i'll post later). But I make a habit of measuring now. I just got a chore coat and I'm a 44.. Though also depends if i want it to have a shirt under or something thicker. I'll post the chore overshirt video this week. Might also do a video on all my jackets soon.. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the answer mate, appreciate it!
I know I am a bit late with this comment, but hope it help anyway. I just got a European made repro A2, made to the original specs. WWII cut is not that comfortable to what we are used to today - I am a XL, but got mine in XXL, and it it still snug. Part of the design, of course, but something to keep in mind.
Hey man off topic but what kind of white tee shirt is that? I like the fit. Edit: nevermind you mentioned brand later in video
Hey Thomas, It's the Ramayana pocket t-shirt from UES.
Does anyone know if Real McCoy’s will do custom, made-to-measure jackets?
Hey mate, I'm honestly not sure to be honest. There might be some language barriers there. Maybe try Aero Leather, they seem do custom jackets and have a great reputation!
Nice A-2 on bro
how tall and weight are u?
Thanks! I'm 6ft and about 83kgs (182lbs)
@@CameronO Thank you for your review. I am The Real McCoys fan too. I love them and other
Retro-Japan brand like Toy McCoy’s etc..
That's a real nice Jacket. Enjoy it.
Thanks Alvaro!
mine tapers the same way FWIW. Nice vid!
Great jacket! If u ever want to sell let me know.
Thanks. You never know. There will be more vids on it in the future! Thanks for watching!
What color variation is it?
Seal brown :)
Beautiful thank you for reporting back. You got a really nice fit. In terms of how it fits on your waist, it’s the ribbing that will stretch as you wear it. If you were to have more room at the bottom it would look like an bag. It’s just the style of the jacket.
Sick jacket! is it breathable tho coz its made of horsehide, i am quite a sweaty guy so...
Hey mate, personally I would say not too much. I've been caught out wearing it when the weather got too warm. I was sweating. Just something to keep in mind.
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Thank you!
Clearly you bought the wrong jacket. Still a nice piece and cool review tho.
God I hope not haha. But time will tell. Cheers.
You’d know after 5 years
Great video. Keep up the good job
Thanks Chris. Really appreciate it!
May I know your height and weight ? I am considering to buy one of it.
Hi Yikai, I am about 79/80kg and am 5"11 / 5"12. Hope that helps!
@@CameronO Many thanks for your quick reply. That's really helpful, I think I may go with size 40 too , I am 183cm 75kg. Really appreciated .
@@CameronO sorry , probably I will go with 42 too, same as your size .
@@yikaizhang8032 Great, I do suggest trying it on if you can. But do share how it is!
Good info! It seems like they run quite small for the sizing, then? I’m 185 and 88kg, will a 44 be more in my ballpark? I would like to be able to use a thin/medium sweatshirt or flanell under.
Good day! How tall are you ???
Hey mate, about 6ft
Very nice video! I have owned so many real McCoy’s items, and have the same jacket and an an-j-3a. both are lovely but the temperature issue is real! If you’re looking for fun and functional, take a look at Belstaff, I also have many many belstaff jackets and they cater to more every day use. Also have history and classic styling depending on what you get (or check out matchless, which is the old belstaff owners)
Thanks Joel, appreciate the comments. So funny you mention Belstaff. I just started watching Long Way Up on Apple+ with Ewan McGregor and noticed they teamed up with Belstaff. Seems super durable considering they are riding through such harsh environments! So ill check them out. Thanks again and cheers for the sub!
@@CameronO they have a motorcycle range that have all the armour in etc. It’s very different to the fashion stuff.
lovely Jacket they last a lifetime or 2! I have an Aero A-2 and B-3 and a few vintage Avirex the better ones.. but my pride and joy is my real ww2 G-1 jacket that flew over Germany in 1944 horsehide is incredible the jacket its still supple and it has the patina only time creates.. Cheers from Salt Lake City!
Hey Ezra. Nice on the Aero. Was literally on their website last night. They have so many different versions. That G-! sounds fantastic. Cheerish it!
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Good looking jacket, nice cut
Thanks!
awesome jacket
Cheers Bruce, thanks for watching!
Your jacket looks too new. Mine looks like it’s been through several wars. Wear it and throw it in the corner when you’re done. The more you abuse it the better it looks. Enjoy 👍
i think its too narrow on the shoulders...
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what a crazy cycle. Quality American clothes produced during 1980s to be remade in Japan, to be sold back to Americans.
Google fedora lounge. You'll see leather jackets profiled from the best makers in the world....
Thanks Ken. Not seen that site before. Cheers
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Super cool Jacket!
Thanks! Appreciate it.
the leather and the lining really show quality, in my eyes the cutting specially collar is off.
u have good athletic body and good lookin face, and this jacket not make u more appealing. just being honest opinion here.
love ur video man !
Haha thank you :)
You don’t seem 2k$ worth of thrilled 🤷♂️
Can you do another video with you wearing some Levi’s jeans and a fully zipped up leather biker jacket??
Show full front and backsides of yourself in them both 🙏🙏🙏
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안녕하세요, 저는 대략 80kg이고 5 "11입니다. 시청 해 주셔서 감사합니다.
That's how the jackets sit with the upside down V.
Also, ill probably do an update video in the coming months. Post winter i would say to see and show any differences.
Hello, I'm subscribing! i have goodwear a-2 doniger goatskin from john chapman))
It isn’t cheap !! Just got a J-24
imagine buying a £2000 jacket and have nothing but complaints about it... this guy is miserable and wasting all his money on many people's dream jacket just to never wear it and complain about every detail of it. sad
Looks WAY too tight. You will gain weight with age and it will be useless to you. You can't layer with that either. Poor judgement on your part.
Good insight. It’s working well so far. Thanks for watching
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