Hello Cameron! In my understanding, since The Real Mccoy's and Freewheelers are repro brands, the weight of their T-shirts is very historical. When they are talking about heavyweight, it’s around 5.5-6.5oz rather than 8oz. Just like when those repro brands saying heavyweight denim, it’s not 21oz but 14-14.5oz. I've been talked to other people about the weight of their t-shirts and I've been told which thinner but stronger fabrics are harder to make than thicker but stronger ones. Don't get me wrong, I'm a heavyweight T-shirt fan myself. My t-shirts are all over 10oz. But I once owned a thinner Freewheelers tee and the quality was surprisingly good!
I think this is a very good point. I cannot imagine guys from 50s wearing 8oz t-shirts. At the same time 5-6oz t-shirt are still quite heavy in today's standards compared to basic mass produced t-shirts available on the market.
Hey man, thanks for the reply. An aspect I never actually thought of and makes so much sense. Maybe it is down to the marketing being misleading but a valid point nonetheless. Freewheels is one i have not tried. I'll get there hah
That is mental! I got my RMC A2 and loopwheel sweat from the store there back in the day and remember it being MUCH cheaper than here. Crazy how there is still such a disparity. Thanks for the comment mate. Always good to know info like this!
@@CameronO Why is the disparity this large? It makes no sense at all. It seems to vary across brands with some like RMC charging a massive up charge in foreign markets (US, UK and Europe). In Japan they are priced at what they are worth imo but the UK prices are just too high for workwear. When I go into the usual stores like Rivet and Hide, or Clutch, it seems they have small amounts of stock bought in & when I go back a month or two later they still have it so its not like the stuff is flying off the shelves at those prices. The amount of denim heads out there at least in western markets has definitely gone down & they aren't buying at these kinds of prices from what I can see.
Thank you for the honest review, Cameron! There are quite a few options for quality loopwheel shirts out there and it's hard to know which ones justify the high price tag. So far, I've found the Merz B. 215 is my favorite.
I found the exact same thing with mine. I’ve washed it twice and it seems to be holding up well. My biggest complaint is the fit…a little too loose/baggy for my typical taste but it is quite comfortable here in the Texas heat. Awesome vid, as always!
I'm still a newbie to this stuff so I'm not on very solid ground here, but it feels that maybe some brands take their status for granted a bit. I can't say too much because I haven't tried Real McCoy for myself, but claiming that a shirt is heavyweight when it clearly is not and charging £100 is a real abuse of trust. I could see me paying £100 for the Merz B 2S14 because they've earned my trust and ditto for UES, The Strike Gold and Sunray, but your experience here is a good reminder that you can't just equate sky-high prices with better quality. Same goes for retailers too, so a quick shout-out for Redcast Heritage - good prices and the nicest folk you could deal with.
Visually it doesn't look like a quality t-shirt, i hate to say that, but it doesn't. You are correct, there are many other brands out there doing loopwheel tee's that offer better quality, shapes and styles. Btw, £5.95 nowadays is nothing for postage...and don't forget packaging, although i will say, for that it was pants.
For just a bit more, you could pick up the incredible 11oz cotton knit crew neck from Iron Heart (IHT-1600) at £133 - definitely worth checking out. I loved it so much that I picked up all four colours. This is a GENUINELY heavyweight t-shirt, and you WILL sweat in it during the summer. As a comparison, they're heavier than some pairs of denim.
Very helpful vid! I'm currently gathering a lot of loopwheel items for my vintage/used shop and this video and your knowledge will come in handy in selecting items.
I think you would benefit from size M instead of L. It would sit nicer on you body as it is quite stretchy. I have exact the same t-shirt and after 3 years, more than 100 wears and more than 50 washes it looks the same, almost as the brand new one. No pilling, no holes, retains its shape nicely after every wash.
Yeah, i would have liked a M. All my research pointed to a L and i read somewhere they fit small and to size up. But the M would have fit fine i think.
Hi Cameron I'm wondering if you ever tried out Bronson Mfg T-shirts. They have some tubular heavyweight (9-10oz) offerings. At ~25 USD for a guy who only wears T-shirts as undershirts and gym shirts, they are the most expensive and luxury ones I have. I'm not sure I will ever buy the top-of-the-line $100+ shirts you dabble in. That's why it is super valuable if you get your hands on a Bronson seamless T-shirt, and give an honest and objective appraisal. I'm really curious about your take on what distance (if any) there is between the $30 Bronsons vs. Studio D'Artisan or Merz or Iron Heart. Thank you!
My favourite every day white tee is the Sugar Cane / Whitesville 7oz 2-pack tee. Otherwise, I picked up a the Studio d'Artisan Loopwheel 9913 tee. I was into the Suvin Gold tees but don't like the pockets on them. It was crazy uncomfortable for the first week of wear since it's like wearing raw denim, 10.5oz but I broke in the shirt quite nicely.
Hi Cameron, thanks for your honest review. Also I really agree about the delivery. I live in northern Ireland and tried to get some pro club t shirts from the only place in the UK that I can find that stocks them and they wanted to charge me £10 delivery for a t shirt.
I know right, it's crazy. Like a blanket fee for everyone. I just don't get it. Most stores selling these types of clothing have free delivery. It's very easy to take my business elsewhere for small things like that.
I have about a dozen of the American Athletic tees. Most comfortable t-shirts I own, and I've tried most Japanese brands. The American Athletic t-shirts have all lasted well, and the boxy cut is great.
You would fit a medium far better. That airy, breezy weave and slub feel is my favorite thing about this shirt---it's cool in the summer and incredibly warm in the winter. Mine have been worn hard, washed repeatedly, and they have held up brilliantly, I would, however, have to agree that it's too expensive.
New sub here, liking your content :) totally agree about the shipping gripe, when you spend nearly 100 quid on a fairly minor piece of clothing, they should just Chuck in free shipping. Anything that amount should be free regardless IMO
Go completely crazy get the 9oz boncoura pocket t. I’ve got it. It’s a grail T-shirt if there is such a thing. I wear it under leather jackets. The only other one id imagine comes close is the Suvin gold from d artisan
I've got this same tee but in the grey colorway. I definitely not a huge fan of it. The texture looks ok but after washing it's super wrinkly not in a good way and in all the hems is almost impossible not to have creases that will be there forever unless you iron them and even then it's the way the fabric wants to go so maybe nothing to do about it. Overall I'd rather buy a Flathead tee any day.
Love the shirt you're wearing in this one. The loopwheel look of the RMC looks great, as a fabric, but agree it doesn't look the best as a shirt. Think a M would have fit better, but yeah, don't think RMC loopwheel are #1.. hard pass.
Wondering what your thoughts are about the fit compared to another loopwheeled like the Merz etc.? Maybe include this feedback in the upcoming video you mention?
Thanks Chris, The other loopwheel shirts have a better fit, but that is my opinion. Merz B is unbeatable for the quality and price. As is Warehouse & Co 4601 which feels like the RMC but is a lot cheaper and a better fit. There's so many great options. Even The Strike Gold!
Looks great on you. Might not work on me as I have long torso. This shirts seams as tho there is some good Streatching to it and a lot of breathability.
I haven't tried their loopwheel tees, but the 2 packs and and the Buco heavy slub t-shirts have been my go-to for years. Those are definitely on the heavier side and they literally last more than any other t-shirt I've ever had. The neck keeps it's shape and doesn't stretch and the Buco is a little more fitted as well. Looks like you should have gone for the M, btw.
Warehouse & co loopwheeled tees all the way ! Cheaper, very solid thick collar and a broad choice of colors. Tried Iron Heart: meh. Tried Merz too: ok but 50s cut is too thin.
Can’t wait for the update to the T-shirt comparison video! I’ve really enjoyed the UES loop-wheeled t-shirts, and am interested to see your input on what the cream of the crop is for 2022 from what you’ve tested out!
Not sure if you have one already, but The Flat Head heavyweight T, is a heavy weight. Nice quality, and cheaper than that one. Just awaiting a Merz B Schwannen heavyweight to arrive, hoping that to hits the mark.
The Merz B Schwannen heavyweight is like wearing a pair of raw denim on your upper body. Super uncomfortable the first 1-2 weeks of wear. I'd suggest wearing it every day for almost a month to break it in before the first wash.
@@blueband8114 Nice! Is it the 14oz? Mine was just really stiff and tight around the shoulders. Took a week, a rinse and a few more wears to soften up and break in.
At 6:42. I get it. You hate being charged shipping for expensive clothing but c'mon, take a look at yourself. That right there is a total stud. So handsome! I mean, seriously, world's smallest violin... and your pooter is adorable too. ♥
My wardrobe has got to be worth up to 30k and I don't mind spending 1k for a pair of shell cordovan Aldens, 400 for some mad neppy OrSlow denim or 2k for a bespoke suit, yet, when it comes to t-shirts, I refuse to buy anything but 4 Euro a pop ones at the local mall; there's absolutely no point in splurging on something as painfully basic as a plain, non-descriptive, cotton t-shirt. Loopwheeled, knitted, whatever, it's just a t-shirt and I'll be running it into the ground within the year anyway. If you're fit, they'll look good regardless.
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Hello Cameron! In my understanding, since The Real Mccoy's and Freewheelers are repro brands, the weight of their T-shirts is very historical. When they are talking about heavyweight, it’s around 5.5-6.5oz rather than 8oz. Just like when those repro brands saying heavyweight denim, it’s not 21oz but 14-14.5oz. I've been talked to other people about the weight of their t-shirts and I've been told which thinner but stronger fabrics are harder to make than thicker but stronger ones. Don't get me wrong, I'm a heavyweight T-shirt fan myself. My t-shirts are all over 10oz. But I once owned a thinner Freewheelers tee and the quality was surprisingly good!
I think this is a very good point. I cannot imagine guys from 50s wearing 8oz t-shirts. At the same time 5-6oz t-shirt are still quite heavy in today's standards compared to basic mass produced t-shirts available on the market.
Hey man, thanks for the reply. An aspect I never actually thought of and makes so much sense. Maybe it is down to the marketing being misleading but a valid point nonetheless. Freewheels is one i have not tried. I'll get there hah
Where are you buying your 10 oz tee ?
Where are you buying your 10 oz tee ?
@@ludovicaubry876 Iron Heart made 11oz tee, Godspeed (Australian selvedge brand) made 10oz tee. Both are awesome
I hate paying for shipping too lol. Especially when it’s an expensive item
So glad I finally clicked on one of your recommended videos! Great stuff man, keep it up!
That price is insane. In Japan it costs ¥8,800 incl. shipping (approx $70 or £55) from The Real McCoy’s Nagoya store.
That is mental! I got my RMC A2 and loopwheel sweat from the store there back in the day and remember it being MUCH cheaper than here. Crazy how there is still such a disparity. Thanks for the comment mate. Always good to know info like this!
@@CameronO Why is the disparity this large? It makes no sense at all. It seems to vary across brands with some like RMC charging a massive up charge in foreign markets (US, UK and Europe). In Japan they are priced at what they are worth imo but the UK prices are just too high for workwear. When I go into the usual stores like Rivet and Hide, or Clutch, it seems they have small amounts of stock bought in & when I go back a month or two later they still have it so its not like the stuff is flying off the shelves at those prices. The amount of denim heads out there at least in western markets has definitely gone down & they aren't buying at these kinds of prices from what I can see.
Thank you for the honest review, Cameron! There are quite a few options for quality loopwheel shirts out there and it's hard to know which ones justify the high price tag. So far, I've found the Merz B. 215 is my favorite.
I found the exact same thing with mine. I’ve washed it twice and it seems to be holding up well. My biggest complaint is the fit…a little too loose/baggy for my typical taste but it is quite comfortable here in the Texas heat. Awesome vid, as always!
Agree for super hot weather it will actually be a blessing i think hah
I'm still a newbie to this stuff so I'm not on very solid ground here, but it feels that maybe some brands take their status for granted a bit. I can't say too much because I haven't tried Real McCoy for myself, but claiming that a shirt is heavyweight when it clearly is not and charging £100 is a real abuse of trust. I could see me paying £100 for the Merz B 2S14 because they've earned my trust and ditto for UES, The Strike Gold and Sunray, but your experience here is a good reminder that you can't just equate sky-high prices with better quality. Same goes for retailers too, so a quick shout-out for Redcast Heritage - good prices and the nicest folk you could deal with.
Appreciate the honest reviews man! Keep it up
Thanks! Appreciate that comments.
I’ll take Bravestar 8.5oz tee for $28 and Made in USA👍🏼
Visually it doesn't look like a quality t-shirt, i hate to say that, but it doesn't. You are correct, there are many other brands out there doing loopwheel tee's that offer better quality, shapes and styles. Btw, £5.95 nowadays is nothing for postage...and don't forget packaging, although i will say, for that it was pants.
I have navy and white ones and I love them. If you want a heavy stuff, you should go for a gusset tee.
i had a print of that on a sleeveless sweatshirt and now I know where the print came from, thanks for the education.
For just a bit more, you could pick up the incredible 11oz cotton knit crew neck from Iron Heart (IHT-1600) at £133 - definitely worth checking out. I loved it so much that I picked up all four colours. This is a GENUINELY heavyweight t-shirt, and you WILL sweat in it during the summer. As a comparison, they're heavier than some pairs of denim.
I was very close to getting one of those but the sleeve opening looks to be knitted or a little weird.
@@CameronO The whole t-shirt is a knit fabric!
haha i meant the sleeve end. In some photos it looked like it tapered a bit. But just had a look again and it actually looks decent.
Very helpful vid! I'm currently gathering a lot of loopwheel items for my vintage/used shop and this video and your knowledge will come in handy in selecting items.
Glad it was helpful! Sounds like a cool shop!
I think you would benefit from size M instead of L. It would sit nicer on you body as it is quite stretchy. I have exact the same t-shirt and after 3 years, more than 100 wears and more than 50 washes it looks the same, almost as the brand new one. No pilling, no holes, retains its shape nicely after every wash.
Yeah, i would have liked a M. All my research pointed to a L and i read somewhere they fit small and to size up. But the M would have fit fine i think.
Hi Cameron I'm wondering if you ever tried out Bronson Mfg T-shirts. They have some tubular heavyweight (9-10oz) offerings. At ~25 USD for a guy who only wears T-shirts as undershirts and gym shirts, they are the most expensive and luxury ones I have. I'm not sure I will ever buy the top-of-the-line $100+ shirts you dabble in. That's why it is super valuable if you get your hands on a Bronson seamless T-shirt, and give an honest and objective appraisal. I'm really curious about your take on what distance (if any) there is between the $30 Bronsons vs. Studio D'Artisan or Merz or Iron Heart. Thank you!
You can get these in your trip to JP for 8k yen.. with the conversion rate, really good deal.
My favourite every day white tee is the Sugar Cane / Whitesville 7oz 2-pack tee. Otherwise, I picked up a the Studio d'Artisan Loopwheel 9913 tee. I was into the Suvin Gold tees but don't like the pockets on them. It was crazy uncomfortable for the first week of wear since it's like wearing raw denim, 10.5oz but I broke in the shirt quite nicely.
Hi Cameron, thanks for your honest review. Also I really agree about the delivery. I live in northern Ireland and tried to get some pro club t shirts from the only place in the UK that I can find that stocks them and they wanted to charge me £10 delivery for a t shirt.
I know right, it's crazy. Like a blanket fee for everyone. I just don't get it. Most stores selling these types of clothing have free delivery. It's very easy to take my business elsewhere for small things like that.
I have about a dozen of the American Athletic tees. Most comfortable t-shirts I own, and I've tried most Japanese brands. The American Athletic t-shirts have all lasted well, and the boxy cut is great.
Great video, love the transparency 🙏
Thank you 🙌
You would fit a medium far better. That airy, breezy weave and slub feel is my favorite thing about this shirt---it's cool in the summer and incredibly warm in the winter. Mine have been worn hard, washed repeatedly, and they have held up brilliantly, I would, however, have to agree that it's too expensive.
Btw, if you haven’t yet, check out Glad Hands Royal T. The best Loopwheeled Shirt I own.
You should do a video on how the tshirt is turning out. See if its lasting
New sub here, liking your content :) totally agree about the shipping gripe, when you spend nearly 100 quid on a fairly minor piece of clothing, they should just Chuck in free shipping. Anything that amount should be free regardless IMO
Go completely crazy get the 9oz boncoura pocket t. I’ve got it. It’s a grail T-shirt if there is such a thing. I wear it under leather jackets. The only other one id imagine comes close is the Suvin gold from d artisan
Great video, as always. Have you tried Filth Mart? If not, you should. A 50s style cut, a good medium weight and no side seams.
Thanks! I haven't heard of them. US brand I am assuming? So many good alternatives out there now!
I've got this same tee but in the grey colorway. I definitely not a huge fan of it. The texture looks ok but after washing it's super wrinkly not in a good way and in all the hems is almost impossible not to have creases that will be there forever unless you iron them and even then it's the way the fabric wants to go so maybe nothing to do about it. Overall I'd rather buy a Flathead tee any day.
It does get rather wrinkly. As you can see in this video. It was just washed.
Which t -shirt are you wearing?
Next time buy a J.Crew heritage t-shirt in 7.5 oz. You will be surprised how good these t 's are.
Love the shirt you're wearing in this one. The loopwheel look of the RMC looks great, as a fabric, but agree it doesn't look the best as a shirt. Think a M would have fit better, but yeah, don't think RMC loopwheel are #1.. hard pass.
Wondering what your thoughts are about the fit compared to another loopwheeled like the Merz etc.? Maybe include this feedback in the upcoming video you mention?
Thanks Chris, The other loopwheel shirts have a better fit, but that is my opinion. Merz B is unbeatable for the quality and price. As is Warehouse & Co 4601 which feels like the RMC but is a lot cheaper and a better fit. There's so many great options. Even The Strike Gold!
Looks great on you. Might not work on me as I have long torso. This shirts seams as tho there is some good Streatching to it and a lot of breathability.
Think you're getting neppy mixed up with slubby.
It was a long week :)
hope you have a wonderful summer
Do you not find indigo from jeans rubs off onto the expensive white tshirt?
Hey Ben, yep, it certainly does. For the most part though it washes out.
I haven't tried their loopwheel tees, but the 2 packs and and the Buco heavy slub t-shirts have been my go-to for years. Those are definitely on the heavier side and they literally last more than any other t-shirt I've ever had. The neck keeps it's shape and doesn't stretch and the Buco is a little more fitted as well. Looks like you should have gone for the M, btw.
Yep. The 2 pack tees can take a beating, much tighter weave. I've only order 3 packs over 5 years... And when they're torn up they still look good.
Are you saying this is softer than the Merz B Sea Island?
I said it before, I’ll say it again. Get yourself an Iron Heart IH-1600 tee 🙏🏽 Yes, hefty price point. Yes, worth every penny.
Warehouse & co loopwheeled tees all the way ! Cheaper, very solid thick collar and a broad choice of colors. Tried Iron Heart: meh. Tried Merz too: ok but 50s cut is too thin.
Just got the 4601 for the next tshirt video. Stay tuned ;)
Merz best t shirt is the 2 thread the inside is a bit softer and is thicker fabric than the 50
That's a shame. There isn't a worse feeling than that of a regretful purchase... especially in the case of something that feels as flimsy as this!
i think those t shirts are suppose to be that way.
Sounds like reasonable shipping costs
What brand is the blue jacket?🥹
It’s a Vetra Chore Coat.
Wonder what Samurai tees are like - cheers for this review
I'll be going over one in my next t-shirt ep. They are great. One of my favs
What’s the green short you wear?
OrSlow Slim Fit Fatigue Shorts.
Spot on ;)
Can you return it? That’s a lot of money for a tee that you’re not absolutely crazy about.
Can’t wait for the update to the T-shirt comparison video!
I’ve really enjoyed the UES loop-wheeled t-shirts, and am interested to see your input on what the cream of the crop is for 2022 from what you’ve tested out!
Looking to film it this weekend (fingers crossed) Most, if not all of the shirts aren't new. Just new to me hah this year :)
Not sure if you have one already, but The Flat Head heavyweight T, is a heavy weight. Nice quality, and cheaper than that one.
Just awaiting a Merz B Schwannen heavyweight to arrive, hoping that to hits the mark.
The Merz B Schwannen heavyweight is like wearing a pair of raw denim on your upper body. Super uncomfortable the first 1-2 weeks of wear. I'd suggest wearing it every day for almost a month to break it in before the first wash.
@@nimasamadi7091 ah, you had me going for a bit. Got the Merz T on now, it's totally soft.
@@blueband8114 Nice! Is it the 14oz? Mine was just really stiff and tight around the shoulders. Took a week, a rinse and a few more wears to soften up and break in.
What’s the shirt you are wearing dude ?
Hi mate it is the Studio D'artisan Fox fibre. fox-006 i believe. Really nice shirt. Very earthy tones but so soft.
At 6:42. I get it. You hate being charged shipping for expensive clothing but c'mon, take a look at yourself. That right there is a total stud. So handsome! I mean, seriously, world's smallest violin... and your pooter is adorable too. ♥
Real McCoy price is insane but feels not that awesome when try it on …. Not only this T-shirt
I have a bunch of their tees (this one, pocket tee, buco striped, rmc logo), and this is the only one I don't enjoy
Did not know you moved back to London
theres no 'wasting' on Real McCoy's
iron heart … and don’t like look back
Well Done Video
£100 for a t-shirt lol, what were you thinking?
Doing it so you guys don't have to hah
@@CameronO Classy response. Way to handle an insult and make it funny. Cheers.
damn marketing and advertising got you bad
My wardrobe has got to be worth up to 30k and I don't mind spending 1k for a pair of shell cordovan Aldens, 400 for some mad neppy OrSlow denim or 2k for a bespoke suit, yet, when it comes to t-shirts, I refuse to buy anything but 4 Euro a pop ones at the local mall; there's absolutely no point in splurging on something as painfully basic as a plain, non-descriptive, cotton t-shirt. Loopwheeled, knitted, whatever, it's just a t-shirt and I'll be running it into the ground within the year anyway. If you're fit, they'll look good regardless.
Getting a good fitting properly proportioned t shirt in my view is very difficult and I am in good shape
GREAT
Definitely looks like a $3 t shirt!
Uniqlo supima tees are the best all around. Very inexpensive, good quality, super soft
Absolutely, so underrated. Great fit too!
This and the Arket t-shrit get asked about a lot. It's on my list to get both!
It looks awful... I'd throw it back at them
It’s a slub shirt. That’s what it looks like. Enjoy it.
$130. Mate if you are in decent shape a £5 white t-shirt from m&s will look just as good.....
I think with loop wheel it is as much about the comfort as it is the aesthetics which i admit seem lustre on this t shirt.
You've got to check out Tezomeyas t-shirts.
Literally arriving this week ;) Maybe a little giveaway too
@@CameronO So very cool.
Would love to hear your thoughts, careful with the natural dyes when washing!