That is such a cool trick!! I know of atleast 3 times I could have used this in the past!! I am going to try it out. Thanks for sharing this Jody. Awesome little tips and tricks like this is why you are the best one out there!!
Thanks Jody. There are too many people posting crap videos. I am glad you put disclaimers in your videos. I have not missed 1 video in 8 years. I am a ACTIVE welder that will admit, I can still learn something new.
I have actually done a repair exactly like this with tig and stick rod on a cheap air compressor housing. It was messy as hell as expected. It was meant as a temp job to get my friend by until he could replace the compressor. We figured the vibrations would break it fast. Surprisingly it has worked well enough that it has over 8 years of use since, plus the compressor is wearing out before the weld is giving up.
Many years ago, a welding tech supplied me with aluminum stick rod and told me that it could also be used with a gas welding torch. It seemed counter-intuitive, but it worked; and it worked well. Like you, I wasn't too impressed with my results with the stick welder (weld by feel, not by sight), but I have used it with a gas torch to get some pretty nice aluminum "braze" type joints. I even welded two air conditioning lines together (tough job) for my son's car and saved $150 that the dealer wanted for a factory hose with the right ends on it.
I've welded aluminum many times with the first primitive TIGs you could use a lomg time ago in a country far far away. That works also with OA torches in a hurry, but the adequate fluoride flux works better with OA. But I kept the trick with the cheap chinese DC TIGs, that makes pretty decent welds if you preheat the alu. Two tricks. For cleaning the slag a stainless steel brush for cleaning pools and hot water. The slag dissolves in water...And you neutralize with hot water and 5% muriatic acid, the flux is very corrosive if left. For seeing better, buy blue lenses shade 5 for OA welding. It is pretty cheap. Put them, put the the electronic hood and adjust the shade to 7 or 8. The blue colored lenses will filter the orange hue of the flux and you¡ll see the puddle.
Wow! You may have just got me out of a future jam. I always thought you needed an AC welder to do aluminum. I think that just gave me an excuse to crank up the Miller Trailblazer and have some fun this weekend!!!!
When I was on my first ship I had to do a major repair on an antenna. It was aluminum I did not have any aluminum filler rod so I tig'd it with the aluminum rod. I did not even think of knocking off the flux I did not want the rod to break. Also used a torch to heat it up before. When we got into port they where planning to have it repaired by the dock workers. But they told them they could not do a better job. I ended up getting a medal for it.
Thanks for a great though brief video. I'm keen to practice these techniques as I don't have an AC tig, just a scratch dc inverter tig. I'm liking these short videos, Thanks.
Been watching your stuff for years now and you've always had good info and advice. Ive also bought stuff from your online store. Thanks for the helpful stuff.
wow. I did not even know that there were techneques for stick welding aluminum let alone stick electrodes made specifically for aluminum. Thanks a lot jody.
I have done quite a bit of this, years ago, but I used a torch and stick rod, with the flux on it. The only problem is, you cannot see when the aluminum starts to melt, no color change. You have to go by feel. Keep tapping the electrode in there, until you feel it soften. Purple lenses help, a lot!
what's up Jody my name is Shane I'm a huge fan of your videos and find them very informative. one thing I've been wondering about is mig welding tips for welding 1/4 inch plate to say 14 to 18 gauge metal like a truck frame any advice would be much appreciated
that's what I like about, honest about where and who you buy from. I'm thinking about buying the lincoln k5126, everyone say the blue box. but the pice on lincoln is 1400.00 or less. what do you think?
after i saw this video ,i went and bought some aluminium stick welding rod to try to weld aluminium with my dc tig welding machine.. since the flux was going every where just like in you vidéo ,i decided to remove the flux from the rod before welding with it ,because i have an argon gas coverage ...the result where perfect,,,with almost no cleaning to do ....you should try this...you will get good result !
I usually just watch videos now and then and move on but I wanted to say that this was a very interesting video. I haven't done a lot of aluminum welding, but with what little I have, I have noticed a huge improvement with zirconiated tungsten for the ac process. Seeing stick welding with aluminum .... I didn't know it existed. Can you AC stick weld on aluminum? Adjusting the pos/neg percentages. That would be interesting to see also. Thanks again for all your valuable info.
Why would stick weld on AC ?! You still need argon to shield your thungsten/pool even with this stick TIG DC method. Therefore if you got AC TIG you have got all the components to make a proper Ali weld
Great video, I know nothing about tig but keen to know more, did you run argon threw the tig whilst using the Flux coated rod? Would you be able to tig without argon and using only the Flux on the rod to protect the weld? Cheers Steve.
Will this work on welding aluminum bicycle tubing frames. My machine is a 225 amp dc inverter 110 volt machine. The aluminum tubing is roughly 1 to 2mm thick.
Was there also still gas coming from the tig torch? Btw i need to repair something really important i broke a piece from a solar screen from a high paying customers house while actually the job is via a good friends company so i dont want to ruin his good name so i really need to fix this, but this piece that broke is something like cast aluminium..... I tried gas welding it but my burner is not strong enough..... Only thing i have is a stick welder.... I do got some aluminium rods. But have not tried them... I first want to know if welding cast aluminium is possible with rods......
Aluminum welding rods are meant to be pushed rather than dragged. Eliminates most of the bubbles. Combine this with pre heat and welds get better looking
hey Jody. why did you say the fluxed rod tig was only good for a pinch ? it looked like a good weld nice blend no undercut etch looked good too. what didn't you like ? Steve
weldingtipsandtricks Just wanted to say how much your videos have helped me. Going for iron workers welder soon and from vertical 7018 to open root 6010 I've been glued to your videos. Even got a few tig fingers for when I do tig. thanks a ton
Make sure you seal the packet up nice and airtight, the flux on alu stick rods is very hygroscopic and can turn the pack into a congealed gooey mess after only a few weeks.
Newbie question, I have to ask, was the tig torch running shielding gas? The reason why I ask is because if you had tig torch wouldn't you run this process as a true TIG weld without a aluminum stick welding electrode? So thats why i'm supposing with this trick we are implying we don't need shield gas am I right?
I may have told this story on an older video, but years ago, I tried to get a welding job at SpaceX and the test was to weld a 1/4" test plate DC positive (heat going to the test piece I think) and all I know is the test was 1 hour long, it took me about that long to make the test piece, set the machine and start the welding...well I destroyed the test piece and blew the test. I was never taught that welding process in school and from what I was told not many people can weld aluminum DC positive.
That is such a cool trick!! I know of atleast 3 times I could have used this in the past!! I am going to try it out. Thanks for sharing this Jody. Awesome little tips and tricks like this is why you are the best one out there!!
I've got to try this out with my little everlast stick welder. I've never heard of this before.
"Kinda ugly, but it's stuck together"
Describes most of my welds.
it also describes my neighbors marriages
@@jpmking9635 Was JUST about to type this when I saw your comment.
My welds generally aren't pretty, but they'll pass every kind of inspection. I only work on vehicles/farm equipment so pretty doesn't really matter.
Thanks Jody. There are too many people posting crap videos. I am glad you put disclaimers in your videos. I have not missed 1 video in 8 years. I am a ACTIVE welder that will admit, I can still learn something new.
I have actually done a repair exactly like this with tig and stick rod on a cheap air compressor housing. It was messy as hell as expected. It was meant as a temp job to get my friend by until he could replace the compressor. We figured the vibrations would break it fast. Surprisingly it has worked well enough that it has over 8 years of use since, plus the compressor is wearing out before the weld is giving up.
Classic, Just going to patch it until the replacement never arrives.
@@another1commenter770 The good old temporary, permanent fix.
Many years ago, a welding tech supplied me with aluminum stick rod and told me that it could also be used with a gas welding torch. It seemed counter-intuitive, but it worked; and it worked well. Like you, I wasn't too impressed with my results with the stick welder (weld by feel, not by sight), but I have used it with a gas torch to get some pretty nice aluminum "braze" type joints. I even welded two air conditioning lines together (tough job) for my son's car and saved $150 that the dealer wanted for a factory hose with the right ends on it.
I've welded aluminum many times with the first primitive TIGs you could use a lomg time ago in a country far far away. That works also with OA torches in a hurry, but the adequate fluoride flux works better with OA. But I kept the trick with the cheap chinese DC TIGs, that makes pretty decent welds if you preheat the alu.
Two tricks.
For cleaning the slag a stainless steel brush for cleaning pools and hot water. The slag dissolves in water...And you neutralize with hot water and 5% muriatic acid, the flux is very corrosive if left.
For seeing better, buy blue lenses shade 5 for OA welding. It is pretty cheap. Put them, put the the electronic hood and adjust the shade to 7 or 8. The blue colored lenses will filter the orange hue of the flux and you¡ll see the puddle.
Years ago we had a radiator repair shop in town and he used those rods with oxy/ acetylene torch and used blue lenses to weld radiators.
Wow! You may have just got me out of a future jam. I always thought you needed an AC welder to do aluminum. I think that just gave me an excuse to crank up the Miller Trailblazer and have some fun this weekend!!!!
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Same
When I was on my first ship I had to do a major repair on an antenna. It was aluminum I did not have any aluminum filler rod so I tig'd it with the aluminum rod. I did not even think of knocking off the flux I did not want the rod to break. Also used a torch to heat it up before. When we got into port they where planning to have it repaired by the dock workers. But they told them they could not do a better job. I ended up getting a medal for it.
dang ,they gave out participation trophys back then too ?...lol...jk
I saved the ship a lot of money and I was a DC not an HT so it was not my trade
They let you on a ship with the name Sanker? Lol
At least I am not afraid to use my real name and have to hide a fake name. yewtoob08
holy hell that is some funny shit....good catch!!!!
Thanks for a great though brief video. I'm keen to practice these techniques as I don't have an AC tig, just a scratch dc inverter tig. I'm liking these short videos, Thanks.
Been watching your stuff for years now and you've always had good info and advice. Ive also bought stuff from your online store. Thanks for the helpful stuff.
Excellent info! Thanks Jody
I enjoyed that Jody! Very cool!
great video Jody . another handy little trick i will remember .thanks
wow. I did not even know that there were techneques for stick welding aluminum let alone stick electrodes made specifically for aluminum. Thanks a lot jody.
I've been working on teaching myself how to arc weld aluminum & how to arc weld in general.
I found myself doing a lot of aluminium stick welding once and the secret to it is simple : "Preheat!"
Don't tell em the main ingredients. Lol
I know it's a 4 year comment,but im curious, can you weld 4mm aluminum with stick welding? Or it's only for thicker material?
What do you use to preheat
@@Josephine894 a gas welding torch but at that point you may as well grow a pair and weld it with that😂
Thanks for the video Jody...
I have done quite a bit of this, years ago, but I used a torch and stick rod, with the flux on it. The only problem is, you cannot see when the aluminum starts to melt, no color change. You have to go by feel. Keep tapping the electrode in there, until you feel it soften. Purple lenses help, a lot!
interesting little technique thanks Jody :-)
Awesome video, short and sweet, cool trick!
Very insightful and impressive, thanks for the knowledge
That was an awesome tip!!! great job sir....
Thank you. Have used the technique with dc and a rod it worked great years ago for a repair of mining equipment in the middle of the night.
Great video , mainly because it seems I always find myself in a pinch, awesome
Thanks! Good to know!
Stick welding aluminum is like machining aluminum with a chainsaw..it works...😊
I learnt something new today :) thanks Jody
keep an open mind!!!
Great vid, thx for shearing!
Thank you for making this video! I thought I had to buy a different tig welder but not so!
what's up Jody my name is Shane I'm a huge fan of your videos and find them very informative. one thing I've been wondering about is mig welding tips for welding 1/4 inch plate to say 14 to 18 gauge metal like a truck frame any advice would be much appreciated
Great video, thanks. Lots of good information here.
excellent video . what gas did you use on the tis weld ?
First thank you for all the great videos, do not understand if you use tig dc or ac ?? i suppose DC
Perfect. You have taught me a lot.
This must be my favourite video of welding :D so hilarious how that flux melts and runs away :D cool
I didn't know you could stick aluminum lol Let alone this awesome tip!!!
I follow your channel and enjoy your videos. Have you made any videos of gas welding aluminum?
Ola, you used process tig dc, tanks!
great video !I bought a ac/dc arc welder ,just to mess around with alum welding .
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Short, sweet and effective. 👍👍👍
Great video Jody, Like always, Lets stay in touch, Have a great week!
Hopefully never have to use this, but very good to have in the back of my mind for sure!
Tig aluminum with stick rod.... did you slso use argon shielding gas besides the flux?
When you are doing the trick with a flux rod do you have the argon gas running as well
Thanks
Fascinating! Thanks.
that's what I like about, honest about where and who you buy from. I'm thinking about buying the lincoln k5126, everyone say the blue box. but the pice on lincoln is 1400.00 or less. what do you think?
Nice trick if you're in a pinch. Good to have alternatives like this too just in case.
very interesting technique, thanks for sharing
Great, do you still use argon, as alum stick has coating?
awesome tip man, thanks for sharing. pete
Great video!! 👊🏻
I got a mini DC160A normal stick welder so can I use it for aluminum DC stick ?thank u Sir
When you used the tig dcen where you running argon?
Since you are using Tig you can peel the flux off the rod right?
Jody got serious skills. Didn't know this was possible.
after i saw this video ,i went and bought some aluminium stick welding rod to try to weld aluminium with my dc tig welding machine..
since the flux was going every where just like in you vidéo ,i decided to remove the flux from the rod before welding with it ,because i have an argon gas coverage ...the result where perfect,,,with almost no cleaning to do ....you should try this...you will get good result !
Was the guy using the DC Tig with stick electrodes to fix the pump housing using Argon or did the flux on the rods replace that. Thanks
I saw someone heated the steel before they weld the aluminum. Is there any different between weld cold aluminum and heated aluminum
the science behind it really makes sense too awesome trick!
Hello Jodi I have a ring here that is a spoon ring that needs welding was wondering if you would do a video of it being welded.
Nice trick Jody
I usually just watch videos now and then and move on but I wanted to say that this was a very interesting video. I haven't done a lot of aluminum welding, but with what little I have, I have noticed a huge improvement with zirconiated tungsten for the ac process. Seeing stick welding with aluminum .... I didn't know it existed. Can you AC stick weld on aluminum? Adjusting the pos/neg percentages. That would be interesting to see also. Thanks again for all your valuable info.
Why would stick weld on AC ?! You still need argon to shield your thungsten/pool even with this stick TIG DC method. Therefore if you got AC TIG you have got all the components to make a proper Ali weld
Hi, How you clean the aluminiun, to see if is correct welding?, thanks
What's a decent stick welder available that I can TRY aluminum welding with?
Great video, I know nothing about tig but keen to know more, did you run argon threw the tig whilst using the Flux coated rod?
Would you be able to tig without argon and using only the Flux on the rod to protect the weld?
Cheers Steve.
Steve Banks if he didn’t use argon the tungsten will be burned in seconds
From México Hi weld tips and tricks you arte the best ok. God job man aún well done
In a pinch or out in the field somewhere while the wind is blowing.
Could you break off the flux and still weld the rod with dcen?
Did you use argon or helium to tig with the flux rod? Thanks for the video.
Do you even need a shielding gas, and if so what lpm setting?
Will this work on welding aluminum bicycle tubing frames. My machine is a 225 amp dc inverter 110 volt machine. The aluminum tubing is roughly 1 to 2mm thick.
Was there also still gas coming from the tig torch?
Btw i need to repair something really important i broke a piece from a solar screen from a high paying customers house while actually the job is via a good friends company so i dont want to ruin his good name so i really need to fix this, but this piece that broke is something like cast aluminium..... I tried gas welding it but my burner is not strong enough..... Only thing i have is a stick welder.... I do got some aluminium rods. But have not tried them... I first want to know if welding cast aluminium is possible with rods......
Nice i see u got the evosaw380 chop saw.
can you purge with helium and preheat? would that work?
Aluminum welding rods are meant to be pushed rather than dragged. Eliminates most of the bubbles. Combine this with pre heat and welds get better looking
I probably learned these things from Jodi. :)
@@TonaldDrump686 Jodi the serial killer?! o.O
Was that tig run on straight polarity? I can't imagine that tungsten not cooking on ep.
hey Jody.
why did you say the fluxed rod tig was only good for a pinch ?
it looked like a good weld nice blend
no undercut
etch looked good too.
what didn't you like ?
Steve
I guess I'm just spoiled to tig welding on AC where no cleanup is needed. that slag is gummy and hard to remove and fumes are rough
weldingtipsandtricks Just wanted to say how much your videos have helped me. Going for iron workers welder soon and from vertical 7018 to open root 6010 I've been glued to your videos. Even got a few tig fingers for when I do tig. thanks a ton
David Gomez I am a local union ironworker forget open root passes and any 60 serieries rod in ironworking its all 7018 and nr 232 flux core welding
Excellent very helpful.
Cheers Jody
se necesita alta frecuencia para el procesó TIG?
great info, thanks for the video ,,,,,,
I am wondering if I could use these rods with my mp210. If that assumption is correct do I chose 70xx or 60xx setup on the screen?
Make sure you seal the packet up nice and airtight, the flux on alu stick rods is very hygroscopic and can turn the pack into a congealed gooey mess after only a few weeks.
What you think. If it is totally doomed idea weld aluminium pipe (wall thickness 1.5mm) with stick?
Thank you .
Thanks !!!
i had to use some of those stick rods welding alum cable tray ,what a mess
Thank you
Brilliant!!
As always, killer info.
😮👍 tankyou buddy
Can you stick weld aluminum with a cheap Chinese DC stick welder? Like 180amp or so?
With the tig and flux rod are you using gas or no
Than was interesting!
Cool thumbs up!
Newbie question, I have to ask, was the tig torch running shielding gas? The reason why I ask is because if you had tig torch wouldn't you run this process as a true TIG weld without a aluminum stick welding electrode? So thats why i'm supposing with this trick we are implying we don't need shield gas am I right?
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I may have told this story on an older video, but years ago, I tried to get a welding job at SpaceX and the test was to weld a 1/4" test plate DC positive (heat going to the test piece I think) and all I know is the test was 1 hour long, it took me about that long to make the test piece, set the machine and start the welding...well I destroyed the test piece and blew the test. I was never taught that welding process in school and from what I was told not many people can weld aluminum DC positive.
So do you have to change your welder
That is very good job
Can you weld aluminum with DC tig?