Paul Was Not A Christian!! | Dr. Pamela Eisenbaum

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  • @History-Valley
    @History-Valley  ปีที่แล้ว +12

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    • @raya.p.l5919
      @raya.p.l5919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤Jesus power here is proof. 😮
      Warning it is intense
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    • @ginojones5857
      @ginojones5857 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The word Christian is meaningless in itself, calling yourself a Christian will not get you saved. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God. Romans 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. The Old Testament Saints were made Righteous by God by their Faith (they believed God) but they couldn't come into the presence of God because they were still in their sins. After Jesus died on the cross he went to Paradise and preached the Gospel to them, and they confessed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, their sins were washed away by his blood and they were saved. Psalm 68:18 You have ascended on high, You have led captivity captive; You have received gifts among men.

  • @Dalekzilla
    @Dalekzilla ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Most American Christians, at least, seem far more enamoured of Paul than Christ. It is Paul that is nearly always quoted, and the direct doctrines and mandates of Christ...rarely. Unquestionably, a lot of what Christ said makes them uncomfortable, whereas Paul can more easily be fit in with their political agendas, for instance.

    • @lorenzobianchini4415
      @lorenzobianchini4415 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Paul never knew Jesus and the name Christ is speaking of an entirely different individual
      PAUL is not a follower of Jesus but of Christ.Pauline Christianity is far removed from Jesus

    • @Dalekzilla
      @Dalekzilla ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@lorenzobianchini4415 In total agreement.

    • @jacksquat4140
      @jacksquat4140 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Most "Christians" are actually Paulians.

    • @MrFirstdance2000
      @MrFirstdance2000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lorenzobianchini4415 Then scripture is not your source of nor, is faith from God's word,your core.

    • @lorenzobianchini4415
      @lorenzobianchini4415 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Of course I have a great knowledge of the Scriptures and the contradictions I point out between the teachings of Jesus and those of Paul.Absolutely I do.I would ask how well do you know them?

  • @clarkemorledge2398
    @clarkemorledge2398 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    @History Valley. Nice score on interviewing Dr. Eisenbaum !!

  • @gmac6503
    @gmac6503 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Professor Eisenbaum could go on and on for many hours and I would be there listening to every word. Fantastic, Deep, Intense Interview and excellent questions allowing her to go into detail.!

    • @fatalisticbunny
      @fatalisticbunny ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ditto.

    • @GermoStaalfeldt
      @GermoStaalfeldt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, professors can go on and on with their human reasoning and never understand the truth. That is the sad side of this

    • @gmac6503
      @gmac6503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GermoStaalfeldt yeah, it’s so weird that a “human being” would use their “human reasoning “ Lol.

    • @gmac6503
      @gmac6503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GermoStaalfeldt 1) What "truth" did she not understand? 2) Have you read her book? Thanks in advance.

    • @GermoStaalfeldt
      @GermoStaalfeldt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gmac6503 If u get Born again, iam sure bible comes alive so you then understand bible, but trying to read it with glasses that come from PHD u dont get far. Spiritual things are not possible to understand PHD degree

  • @dennisdonnelly7794
    @dennisdonnelly7794 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If this lady's goal is just to confuse the hell out of people she certainly has succeeded

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Like many others in these channels, they are like blotters. Take it all in but get it all backwards.
      In the 50-minute point in the recording, accuses Paul of DECLARING his credentials, of superiority over others for self promotion. But this is quite backwards since in other passages (e.g. Eph. 3:1-8 ff.), he ADMITS to horrible conduct in his past but praises the Lord for reaching down even to him to save him right in this horrible state blinded to stop committing horrible crimes. Relating both these accounts provides great hope for salvation to great sinners. No?

    • @alephmale3171
      @alephmale3171 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't think she was confusing. It just kind of felt confusing to us because the Interviewer, in my opinion, did not ask questions that indicated that he understood.
      The questions were broken apart and did not follow one another or build upon her explanations, which gave us a fragmented general idea.

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alephmale3171 That could be a problem.
      But the heading seems to disclose the skepticism in her thinking. The issue of Paul's different gospel was debated and decided millennia ago by eyewitnesses. Why do certain people resurrect the question? Unbelief - a fatal mindset. A big problem for remarkably many "scholars" here.

  • @jeanboshears6689
    @jeanboshears6689 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The people of the Way where a sect of the Jews. Those first converts would never have been doing things Christ didn’t do; like a Easter celebration with bunnies and eggs, or eating food that Christ didn’t eat because the scripture said not to eat them.

  • @todradmaker4297
    @todradmaker4297 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you for this one, Jacob. I got a great deal out of this interview. I feel as if I now have a greater understanding of Paul and his motivations.

    • @Benjamin-jo4rf
      @Benjamin-jo4rf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@iyaskelu7173wow. Groundbreaking! Absolutely startling claim. You obviously have done some serious research

  • @pseudio3141
    @pseudio3141 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wonderful interview, I really enjoyed this. Thank you.

  • @mikebarnes7734
    @mikebarnes7734 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What is Christianity? Over forty-thousand denominations throughout the world have answered this question with their own uniqueness.
    Therefore, Christianity can be anything you care to make it. Just make a new denomination!

    • @jeanboshears6689
      @jeanboshears6689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      40,000 denominations!? I would’ve never dreamed that many. There are major denominations of Protestantism With the offshoots and breakaways, but I want to know who’s doing this counting, this collecting of a list.

    • @hommerecorder7003
      @hommerecorder7003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Problem is the trinity system influence 300 years after Christ. Is not what the Bible Say
      Is 1 Singular GOD
      and 1 Messias The Enointed Jesus from Heaven. 2. NEW ADAM. John 17,3.
      Also The Holy Spirit is not a third Person. Is GOD HIMSEF with Power Dynamis.

    • @sampro454
      @sampro454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's certainly a good objection to protestantism at least..

    • @antonius3745
      @antonius3745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hommerecorder7003 It is not as simple as that. You never ever will find the historical Jesus and who cares?

    • @martinsvenberg
      @martinsvenberg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read Great Gospel of John by Jakob Lorber if you're interested in what Jesus taught

  • @ObjectiveEthics
    @ObjectiveEthics 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Clearly Paul was a ego maniac that was serving his own desire to be seen as a great religious philosopher and teacher. In psychology we refer to this common phenomenon as a "God complex".
    Romans 15:18 "I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished thru ME in LEADING the Gentiles to obey God by what I HAVE SAID AND DONE."
    And we know that Paul was taking money from his followers so his financial motivation was also relevant.

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      really?! What is your evidence for this, "Paul was taking money from his followers so his financial motivation was also relevant".
      The written record has him accepting donations both for himself and for churches in the neighborhood with no Scriptural evidence that funds were evident misappropriated. Sounds like a Bart rumor.

  • @fatalisticbunny
    @fatalisticbunny ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for this fascinating interview.

  • @josephphillips590
    @josephphillips590 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Paul preached Christ an him crucified. Nothing else. What's wrong is the people hate the Bible.

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and that's not what Jesus commanded his apostles to teach. Follow Jesus. The narrow way is actually narrow.

    • @josephphillips590
      @josephphillips590 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your are a Bible rejecter I doubt your even saved.

    • @antonius3745
      @antonius3745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AnHebrewChild Nobody knows what Jesus really preached!

    • @sherrydubois6164
      @sherrydubois6164 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that may be what he claimed, but not so

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AnHebrewChild you like looking and living backwards?

  • @xtuartb7851
    @xtuartb7851 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, fascinating interview. If there's a next time (I hope there will be), please just get the good Doctor to use her microphone better.

    • @robbielee2148
      @robbielee2148 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sadly doctors are not up on audio technology

  • @integrationalpolytheism
    @integrationalpolytheism ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent. Really enjoyed this.

  • @Eliezer1018
    @Eliezer1018 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Paul was the greatest deceiver. He never even taught what Yeshua taught, and he didn’t learn from the 12 disciples of Yeshua. Paul taught against Torah and Yeshua came to bring the lost house of Israel back to Torah. Please show me a scripture where Paul actually quotes Yeshua.

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would he reiterate what Jesus taught to Israel alone? He was sent to Gentiles. You would know that if you read the record.

  • @rensiusmnainggolan5210
    @rensiusmnainggolan5210 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The problem is most western scholars in Christianity used secondary and third sources.

    • @antonius3745
      @antonius3745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tend to agree and disagree. As European we are used to this kind of reasoning. I see it is for evangelics and most Americans just new stuff.

  • @seoigh
    @seoigh ปีที่แล้ว +13

    this is like watching a cat with a mouse... many scholars underestimate how much we've read -- excellent work, Jacob. Must've been hard not to step on her toes and finish sentences for her. Nice interview, again.

  • @bludgeoncorpinc.6768
    @bludgeoncorpinc.6768 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is excellent. Thank you.

  • @richardroyster6631
    @richardroyster6631 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Followers of Jesus were called Christians in the book of Acts. Yes, Paul was a Christian, because he was a follower of Christ, the Anointed One. Followers of Jesus are Christians. He taught and studied about the life of Jesus from the 12 Apostles.

    • @jackaltwinky77
      @jackaltwinky77 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Except in his own words, he explicitly did not learn His “Gospel” from any of the apostles.
      His Gospel came directly through revelation from Jesus, Galatians 1:12-19.

    • @courag1
      @courag1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus ate nothing of anything having the Nephesh of God, any life which God breathed the life into. Jesus was as with the other sacred animals for sacrifice: without blemish, a perfect sacrifice. If we are to be “Christian”, then we are called to walk even as He walked, to walk in repentance. None of the animals were meat eating animals, all were vegan. And so was Jesus. Look at the accounts of the Last Supper - there was no lamb on the table!!!! The LAMB was present at the table who broke the bread.
      Jesus ate as was His original plan for man, He would have eaten the Genesis 1:29 diet: plant foods, seeds and nuts, vegetables and grains. He would have to have lived the life of purity without any sin so that He could become sin for us.
      Consequently, if we are called to walk, even as He walked, our lives must become as His was, that we also do no harm to any, that we cannot kill nor eat whatever likewise to us, has the Nephesh of God. We need look to the disciples and to James the Just of whom Jesus said we should follow. James as vegan since birth, drank no strong drink. Mary and Joseph were of the Essenes and would have raised all their children without eating meat or fish. Jesus had to fulfill all righteousness.
      If we are called to be like Him, then we best also recognize that when He returns, then the lion will lie down with the lamb and none shall hurt or harm in all His Holy Mountain.
      It is not hard to be VEGAN, all we have to do is to realize that Jesus had to have lived this way, it was how God told Adam and Eve to eat. It is the way of eating which prevents most all diseases. When you prove this to yourself, you will know. I am vegan 10 years, and at 70, except for some injuries which my diet cannot change, I live in perfect health.
      I have come to eat this way, and it is the way without becoming fat, and nor do you get sick either, you don’t get arthritis but if you have it when you come to Veganism, it will heal you.
      No, Paul was not one who would have followed what James and the disciples followed as Peter also was on record as was James the Just, one who ate no flesh foods. But this was the way of the disciples of Jesus. John the Baptist as well as Jesus came with the same message: “Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.” But what Paul preached is “By Grace, you have been saved, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.” Where is the “repentance” to be found in this verse? It isn’t there. If you follow Jesus, repentance is not an option, it is the way of life. We are called to follow Jesus. If you realize you are following Paul, the one who has the words of Everlasting Life is JESUS! REPENT!
      W/ho is it who lives this way except it has been revealed in them to walk even as He walked? With man it is not possible, but with God, all things are possible.

    • @jackaltwinky77
      @jackaltwinky77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@courag1 you... you wanna post the scripture that said Mary and Joseph were of the Essenes?
      Also... Jesus wasn't a vegan, look at what he did with some bread and fish for the multitudes...
      Also, depending on which copy you go buy, John the Baptiser wasn't a vegan either... but the later scribes changed it so that it appeared that way.

    • @jvnd2785
      @jvnd2785 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My friend, how can one be a follower of Yeshua (the King of Jews) and teach lawlessness? Can you explain that to me? Yeshua urged people to keep the Law of God (the Torah)...meanwhile Saul of Tarsus taught that the Gentiles are "above the Law" or in his words "no longer under the Law" which is lawlessness. Lawfulness and lawlessness- those two mix like water and oil.

    • @MrFirstdance2000
      @MrFirstdance2000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jackaltwinky77 You might want to reread Acts, Paul's cnversion/blndness and teaching!

  • @Natella3312
    @Natella3312 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the guest. Very interesting logic. Unfortunately the volume is not loud enough even I turned it to the maximum.

  • @FirstLast-zk5ow
    @FirstLast-zk5ow ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You poor souls. You're stuck in a strange headspace. Confused by words and strange symbolism. These things don't matter. But you're so lost and confused; that you don't realize it. All that matters is living our lives as we were taught. Jesus is the door; the way. to everlasting life. And his words (and his alone) , are the map to finding it. Be as he taught. That is it. It really is that simple.

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      one thing you omitted. " All that matters is living our lives as we were taught" St. Peter admits that for centuries, the Jews tried and failed to live by the Law of Moses (consider all the dead animals that had their lives taken by priests atoning for sins) and in all that time failed! What about that? Do you have some help for those of us not perfect.

  • @raymondweiland6423
    @raymondweiland6423 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this interview

  • @Jd-808
    @Jd-808 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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  • @biblethumper1624
    @biblethumper1624 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your guest. I really enjoyed listening to her.

  • @hornplayer1228
    @hornplayer1228 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The is rather painful to listen to. She does not come across very well at all.

    • @josephde-zordi7324
      @josephde-zordi7324 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be expected from these professors who blow their own trumpets

  • @Robert_L_Peters
    @Robert_L_Peters ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Worth another listen. Thank you

  • @supertrucker99
    @supertrucker99 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank goodness I THOUGHT I WAS ONLY ONE TO SEE RIGHT THRU THE WHOLE PAUL THING... 😅

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Oh no, it’s why I left Catholicism almost 20 years ago (and I’m only in my early 30’s). Now I feel I have a very good understanding of the actual history and i’m blown away by how insightful I was when I knew close to nothing. I never liked how Paul was the central figure in a story that was meant to be about someone else, like the story revolves around Paul when it should be around Jesus and James. Well, now that I know James is the Teacher of Righteousness and Saul is the Teacher of Wickedness (yes from the Dead Sea scrolls) I feel like I can be Christian adjacent again, because I like the actual family that Saul had executed one by one.
      Not that I would call myself Christian, but I am vehemently opposed to Paulineism. I’m down with Judas of Galilee though!

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Now you are free to descend right into the prophesied lake - forever.

  • @222lightatoms3
    @222lightatoms3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Saying Paul was not a Christian is like saying you won't be thirsty in hell.

    • @FDroid01
      @FDroid01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it's saying that if you don't repent you'll go there

  • @deannicely7282
    @deannicely7282 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In 326 BC Ptolemy was placed as Tetrarch of Egypt by Alexander the Great. He needed to bring peace to the land and quell dissension between the the Greeks and Egyptians. He created a combo god which was a merging of Greek and Egyptian gods and called him Serapis. This was the first Christos and followers for hundreds of years were ridiculed as Christians which followed a counterfeit god.

    • @SaintSkanderbegus
      @SaintSkanderbegus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is factually incorrect and I'm pretty sure you know that too. So why lie?

  • @PollisDrake
    @PollisDrake ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent, really enjoyed that, thank you both.

  • @KeepingWatch95
    @KeepingWatch95 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Paul was a false disicple of Christ and Paul falsely claimed to be an apostle.
    The term "Christians" did not start with Jesus nor did it start with Jesus' true disciples.

    • @jacquesvincent3897
      @jacquesvincent3897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Christians are those born again of the spirit (holy spirit) since he shed his blood on the cross and believe in his death ,burial and resurrection after having repented and calling upon his name to get saved !!!
      *those who believed him as being the messiah and died before the cross are not Christians !!! , they are old testament saints ....like John the Baptist
      ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
      🚩2 CORINTH 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
      🚩1 CORINTH15:1-4...1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
      2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
      3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
      4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
      🏁ROMANS 10:13.....13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    • @azurestarton
      @azurestarton 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Paul quoted the Old Testament.
      He knows all of Israel and all shall be saved.
      Goodness read Numbers 27:16 and Jeremiah 32:27.
      She's a liar.
      God can still speak to us now.
      She's a critical and not a Christian herself.
      Paul was as much Christian as she is.

  • @antonius3745
    @antonius3745 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite author

  • @trinitymatrix9719
    @trinitymatrix9719 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Paul of Tarsus wasnt christian at first but became a chrstian and true follower of Christ after the event on the way to Damascus. Ameeeeeeeem ❤❤✝✝

    • @madeirafonseca6383
      @madeirafonseca6383 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul's "Damascus road experience" was a totally fraudulent fabrication. There are four DIFFERENT versions of his alleged experience in the New Testament; three is Acts, and one in Galatians. Try to get the SO CALLED FACTS in all four versions to match up; it can't be done. Paul conveniently left out the names of his "traveling companions" so no one could contact them to corroborate his story. As a side not, the three versions in Acts also proves Luke was NOT a good historian, as the church loves to teach, because he couldn't even tell the same story (lie) the same way, in the same book, three times.

    • @supertrucker99
      @supertrucker99 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he began a ministry outside of Jesus teachings ..Saul had papers to KILL THE APOSTLES....
      LIGHTENING STRUCK HiM DOWN AND BLINDED HIM TEMPORARILY.
      THATS not the problem.
      His addition to LAW are
      Not Jesus words...Jesus says I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THINGS .
      ...on cross ...SAID IT IS FINISHED everything Jesus says you can bank on it....he never said MY SUCCESSOR WILL UPDATE U

    • @fagica
      @fagica ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Paul became the follower of the Christ he himself invented. Kind of becoming a fan of yourself.

    • @donmac5918
      @donmac5918 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fagica Acts 26: 22-28..
      22Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad. But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness. For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner. Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest. Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian…..

    • @MrFirstdance2000
      @MrFirstdance2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@donmac5918 Your verses are spot on but will confuse those whose desire to confuse, is their calling!

  • @barrygaynor1025
    @barrygaynor1025 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Apostle Peter recognized Paul as a Christian and leader of the church. See Peter's New Testament epistle.

    • @michaelr1577
      @michaelr1577 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its fake

    • @barrygaynor1025
      @barrygaynor1025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelr1577 We believe Caesar Nero executed both Paul and Peter.

    • @donmac5918
      @donmac5918 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelr1577…2 Peter 1:16
      “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.” ….
      🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @barrygaynor1025
      @barrygaynor1025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@donmac5918 Amen.

    • @herminepursch2470
      @herminepursch2470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know cause you were there

  • @daodejing81
    @daodejing81 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Paul is a conundrum.
    He speaks wisdom in much of his epistles, saying transformation must be inward:
    Inward Jew
    Circumcision of the heart
    If I have not love
    Yet the words attributed to him also show homophobia, concern over hair length and silence of women in church.
    How to balance utterances of wisdom and utterances of ignorance?
    I conclude that either we are lacking context, or the Pauline epistles have been tampered with.
    In any event, Biblical Scripture has contrary messages. One is inward transformation, the basis for righteousness. The other is Christian theology, righteousness through faith in Jesus. The former is consonant with all Scripture across cultures. The latter is a perversion of Scripture, as it's clear that no outside agent can save you.
    I have no idea what was going on with Paul, but the continuity of his writings are strikingly discordant, ranging from insightful to intolerant.
    Something seems amiss.

    • @nbenefiel
      @nbenefiel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Before Paul, women had an important role in the early Christian church. After Paul, we became second class citizens.

    • @daodejing81
      @daodejing81 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nbenefiel I think it's been established that women were considered less important even in pre-Pauline Jewish culture.
      I think Paul is simply a reflection of his culture, as is the case for most people.

    • @RAnthonyBarker
      @RAnthonyBarker ปีที่แล้ว

      This is because of the carnal versus the spiritual Yashua

    • @daodejing81
      @daodejing81 ปีที่แล้ว

      @RAnthonyBarker I think it's either because we're lacking historical context, or his writings have been tampered with.

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can you believe that his message was adjusted to target certain audiences not like a politician (for personal gain) but like a motivational speaker who wants his audience to succeed - to secure sins forgiveness, spiritual transformation and eternal life.

  • @barrygaynor1025
    @barrygaynor1025 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saul of Tarsus spent the first part of his life vigorously opposing and trying to destroy the Jesus Messiah movement; then he had an encounter with the resurrected Jesus on the road to Damascus. Saul went from being one of the greatest enemies of the church to being one of its greatest champions and author of about half of the New Testament .

    • @michaelr1577
      @michaelr1577 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He realized that his strategy was doomed. So he joined the church and destroyed the faith from inside

    • @herminepursch2470
      @herminepursch2470 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only source you have is a Catholic Bible. So you can Quote all you want doesn't changeyou think?

    • @barrygaynor1025
      @barrygaynor1025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @herminepursch2470 The Apostle Paul's epistles are the earliest New Testament documents. Paul speaks about his conversion in his epistles. The Catholic Church would not formulate for hundreds of years. I suggest you study church history and the history of Christian Thought (also known as Systematic Theology), before making further incorrect statements. I also suggest you study textural criticism.

    • @jacquesvincent3897
      @jacquesvincent3897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@herminepursch2470 The KJV isn't a catholic bible !!! ....the manuscript composing it comes from Antioch ....the catholic bible originates from Alexandria Egypt!!!

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Balaam 2.0 Balaam couldn't curse God's people directly, so he infiltrated their camp and taught them to eat meat sacrificed to idols and to commit fornication. @@michaelr1577

  • @amysmardz4842
    @amysmardz4842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks!

  • @vintage6346
    @vintage6346 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Saul was not a Christian. But then, he became a Christian, and was called Paul.

    • @netzerNCG
      @netzerNCG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No… Saul was his Hebrew name and Paul his Roman name. He is called Saul after the Damascus Rd. Experience. Research it… what you said is absolutely not true.

    • @vintage6346
      @vintage6346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@netzerNCG
      Paul was a Christian.

    • @netzerNCG
      @netzerNCG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vintage6346 If by that you mean he followed Christ...then yes, he was. But if you understand that Christ was the JEWISH Messiah of the JEWS you have to rethink the over-simplification of the statement. Paul DID NOT convert to some new religion...he simply received the Messiah of the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. He never left his JEWishness... (neither did Christ.)

    • @vintage6346
      @vintage6346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@netzerNCG
      Paul followed Christ, as do other Christians.

    • @netzerNCG
      @netzerNCG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vintage6346 Paul followed the Biblical Christ... not the modern Christ that changed the law and made a new religion.

  • @joecaner
    @joecaner ปีที่แล้ว +5

    (1:02:58) _“The world isn’t here forever, and human extinction is a real possibility…”_
    Human extinction is almost a certainty.

    • @jacquesvincent3897
      @jacquesvincent3897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One can only hope.

  • @jacquesvincent3897
    @jacquesvincent3897 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

    • @jvnd2785
      @jvnd2785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My friend, you do realise that was not written by Peter, the disciple of Yeshua, don't you?

    • @jacquesvincent3897
      @jacquesvincent3897 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jvnd2785 I hope you realize that you are not a bible believer at all ,are lost and on your way to hell as soon as you die .....do you???? .

    • @jacquesvincent3897
      @jacquesvincent3897 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jvnd2785 1 PETER 1:....Peter, an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered.......

    • @jvnd2785
      @jvnd2785 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacquesvincent3897, and what is your point? Apart from repeating mantras?

    • @jacquesvincent3897
      @jacquesvincent3897 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jvnd2785He says himself that he is an apostles !!! Are there two apostles called peter????....And he (Peter) speaks about Paul ......
      2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
      ....and Luke wrote ACTS...and talks about him the whole book......and this channel is a bad joke and so you are!!! ....that's my point!!! .

  • @carmelitafallandupilascani4821
    @carmelitafallandupilascani4821 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All Filipino males are circumcised not for religious sake but a traditional heritage don't say only the Jews because in the Philippines all boys are circumcised as it is in our culture. Over 92.5% of Filipino men living in the Philippines are circumcised by the way the origins of this tradition is unclear

  • @onika700
    @onika700 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Acts 11: 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

    • @edwardwalsh5477
      @edwardwalsh5477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for bringing this to the attention of so many stuck in (willful) ignorance.

  • @kennethbrownsher1264
    @kennethbrownsher1264 ปีที่แล้ว

    The earliest followers of Jesus, the Ebionites said Paul was a convert to Judaism.

  • @MariusVanWoerden
    @MariusVanWoerden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dr. Pamela Eisenbaum, you are Not A Christian. if you say: " Paul Was Not A Christian!!

  • @johnman8554
    @johnman8554 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pauls preaching fits everyone else description of the gospel.. He preached grace of God unto salvation for everyone who believes.. Only attractive part

  • @onika700
    @onika700 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Acts 26: 28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

  • @koreyoneal2623
    @koreyoneal2623 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Paul never followed Yeshua , he followed the FALSE CHRIST that he encountered on the road to Damascus . He was never a true Apostle of Yeshua's and he was an apostate . Actually Jacob , if you put together what James said in Acts 15:20 about eating meat sacrificed to idols , what Peter says about eating meat sacrificed to idols in the Clementine Homilies and what Paul said about it in 1 Cor 8 & 10 , I'd have to say that Peter assumed that he was eating with people that didn't eat meat sacrificed to idols , according to Peter in the Homilies , demons attach themselves to meat sacrificed to idols , not knowing what Paul had taught them , (that they could) , and must have learned otherwise once James showed up , then there's the fact that this is just Paul's account of what happened and he was definitely a liar so who knows what really happened , I'm just giving you a good explanation of what might have been going on . Paul was against circumcision because he wanted to marry a Priest's daughter and was himself circumcised but not on the eighth day like he claimed elsewhere in his writings but as an adult and the marriage didn't happen and he went into a rage and spoke against circumcision and The Torah . He devoted himself to Yeshua ? He doesn't quote any of Yeshua's teachings !!! He valued The Torah ? He spoke against The Torah over and over again !!! No offense to this woman but she is so naive ....

    • @willempasterkamp862
      @willempasterkamp862 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cornelius and Zacharias aren't explicitly named RIGHTIOUS ( the opposit of FALSE ) ? ?

    • @koreyoneal2623
      @koreyoneal2623 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willempasterkamp862 I don't understand what you're saying , could you please try again ?

    • @willempasterkamp862
      @willempasterkamp862 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@koreyoneal2623 Huqoq elephant mosaic depicts Pauls true identity. Paul is Klopas (Ophiuchus under Cygnus ). Try to understand paul by comparing scripture with scripture is weird when profane history simply tells us he is GERMANICUS ; James the just.

    • @koreyoneal2623
      @koreyoneal2623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@willempasterkamp862 no offense but you're speaking absolute nonsense , this conversation is over

    • @trinitymatrix9719
      @trinitymatrix9719 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul destroyed all false pagan evil teachings of the jews and muselims

  • @josephj9589
    @josephj9589 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Be careful whom you listen too. Many Judaizers are attcking Christian faith from inside & outside.Jude 1:4
    [4]For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
    Jude 1:4,18
    [18]How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
    Titus 1:15
    [15]Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

    • @Dizzinator2114
      @Dizzinator2114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Interesting you would use the term judaizers considering what verses you quoted and from whom.

  • @ronkebarber6238
    @ronkebarber6238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Christianity is not a religion because it comprises of works and more sets of works of do this and do that when Jesus said it is finished and that we should rest in Him.
    Christianity is replacing Christ with a different Christ to please their own ways of life without any conviction.
    Christians think that having the name “Christian” is enough to be saved and going to church and listening to their pastors who doesn’t even know better than them.

  • @TAEYYO
    @TAEYYO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Gay" was not originally a derogatory term.

  • @Mightycaptain
    @Mightycaptain ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's not really how she pronounces her name though is it?

  • @ltopomcfly5583
    @ltopomcfly5583 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She is great. A lot of her arguments support Marcionism. Paul saw Jesus as the Jewish messiah and not as God. And saving Gentiles would prove it, making him a better interpreter than the disciples. Its not Paul's fault that the spiritual gnostic qualities were lost because his biggest fan Marcion is the one who popularized them.

  • @dervalgraham3392
    @dervalgraham3392 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nor was Jesus who was a Jew and his religion was Judaism.

    • @Deletthis-gp7yy
      @Deletthis-gp7yy ปีที่แล้ว

      Christ was the embodiment / manifestion of God's Word
      Christ IS the Truth

    • @RAnthonyBarker
      @RAnthonyBarker ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually there is no religion “Judaism”

  • @Justin_Beaver564
    @Justin_Beaver564 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Were the Ebionites the real Christians?

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. Basically yes. They’re some of the last remnants of the resistance. Masada had fragments of writings from Qumran, so the Essenes ARE the “early Christians” they’re messianic apocalyptic nationalist revolutionaries.
      The Ebionites are one of the last remnants to still have living members.

    • @Justin_Beaver564
      @Justin_Beaver564 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Thor-Orion "Messianic apocalyptic nationalist revolutionaries" are exactly what the early followers of Jesus were. Almost everything about Judaism had more to with national identity than religion or God. In fact the worship of one god was just a way to unite various tribes who all had different patron gods at the time.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Justin_Beaver564 yeah, i don’t like using the word Christians for them because they never would have called themselves that. They called themselves the Doers of the Law or the Walkers of the Way.

  • @roberthubal6278
    @roberthubal6278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not originally Christian. But he practically wrote half of the New Testament. Propagating, defending, and defining Christianity.

  • @nirad6766
    @nirad6766 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thomas 12.1-2: 1 The disciples said to Jesus, “We know that you will depart from us. Who will be leader over us?” 2 Jesus said to them, “Wherever you have come from, you shall go to James the Just, for the sake of whom heaven and earth came into being.”
    Did they listen?

  • @simonewilliams7224
    @simonewilliams7224 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neither was Jesus or any of His apost led. They were practicing Jews who helped Jesus started a new Church.

  • @eddiemartin1671
    @eddiemartin1671 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great

  • @biblethumper1624
    @biblethumper1624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Eisenbaum:
    I think most Christians do know that Christ was not Jesus' last name since the pattern of bible names implies such.. Besides, we usually learn early on that Christ means Messiah, sent or anointed one.
    But, your comment has prompted me to do an informal survey of the local groups I attend/visit!
    Thx for that!
    I'm only 6 min in. Lol

  • @terryfox9344
    @terryfox9344 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this explanation of Paul. I have heard so many explanations, but I never came away from any of them with a sympathetic view of the man/ Furthermore, I rejected most of what I had been told Paul believed. I think that part of the problem was that Luther's view or reading of Paul formed the basis of what I was taught about Paul, and frankly my opinion of Luther's view of Paul's ideas was that Luther misread Paul, or if he didn't then Paul's views were silly. (I do agree with Luther that certain practices of 15th century Popes were corrupt.)
    Your view that links Paul's Jewish resurrection of the body theology with his personal mystical experience, makes a ton of sense. One of the problems that modern readers of the Bible have is that the meaning of words has changed over time. Furthermore, our knowledge of the world of ideas is much different than the views of authors writing 2,000 years ago. Paul makes a lot of sense to me now. Thanks!

  • @kennethhymes9734
    @kennethhymes9734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is very clear is that Paul, whoever he was, is one of the few gospel characters who existed, and that he did NOT believe in a Jesus/Joshua who walked around. Period. Any reasonable interpretation of the texts, not colored by desire, leads inescapably to that conclusion. Jesus in a body was a later invention. No one wants to hear this, because even western "atheists" are pretty captured by christian ideology, they just don't realize it, because they think it only extends to ideas about cosmology and sin and the afterlife, but it is and was a total religion, affecting economics, education, science, everything.

  • @joshuamartinpryce1237
    @joshuamartinpryce1237 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul was a Jewish, Roman, Who received revelations and understood the Jewish law from discovering Jesus. It wasnt all in His head, He believed certain things about the messiah which Jesus proved and He travelled and must of met Jesus at some point because he was part of Jesus close enemies, the Sanhedrin. He went to the disciples to verify his revelations. So i believe that Saul was a messianic Jew before he became a full blown Christian. He brought the messianic Jewish theories to gentile audiences, so you are wrong people.

  • @andrewmays3988
    @andrewmays3988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting questions, but her answers were obtuse and scatterbrained. Next time you interview her, give her all the questions in advance so she can collect her thoughts and not ramble.😇

  • @johnmcgrath1929
    @johnmcgrath1929 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Christianiaty was based on greek an Roman thinking on the nature of God... the origin of Theology. The ideas of the Thora and the laws of Moses are alien to western thought and have only retarded western thought with the side introduction via protestantiam and the notions that the old testement and indeed the notion that such things as the tales of Genesis are literal. Why is the Thorah taken as important when it was not writen down until about 400 bc and then as something of a tale to justify the self regard of the Israelites,,, how much they robbed from previous myths and ledgends. the great plsams and provbers were already there with the Egyptians...

    • @joesmith7509
      @joesmith7509 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Way before that.. it's all from the sumerians
      E=Mc² ⚛️ 🔯• is χξς(666)
      ΧΞϚ: (Chi Xi Stigma/666)
      ALL RELIGIONS,
      •INCLUDING ATHEISM•
      ARE CONNECTED
      BY E=Mc² and,
      THE STAR OF REMPHAN
      (Atheism is the core of ALL the religions and PROOF, GOD IS REAL)
      E=Mc² ⚛️
      E~ Energy
      M~ Mass (at rest)
      c²~ speed of light squared
      -
      And all religions, (including Science/Atheism)
      Are broken down into E=Mc²
      Even their symbols are defined by this reality.
      -
      GOOGLE THE FOLLOWING
      PRACTICES OF EACH RELIGION/PHILOSOPHY.
      ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME CONCEPT AS E=Mc²
      Christianity: ✝️
      (ΧΞϚ•Chi Xi Stigma/666)
      -
      Islam: ٱللَّٰهُ أَكْبَرُ
      (Allāhu ʾakbaru)☪️
      -
      Judaism:
      (Shield Of David)✡️
      -
      Egyptian: 𓋹 𓍑 𓋴
      (Ankh, Wedja, Seneb )
      -
      Atheism: ⚛️
      (Atom)
      -
      Buddhism: ☸️
      (Dharma Wheel)
      -
      Hindu: 🕉️
      (aum, ohm)
      -
      Yin Yang, ☯️
      (Taoism/Daoism)
      -
      Ouroboros,♾️
      (Gnosticism)
      _____________
      If you Buy or Sell
      On The Sabbath
      You have The
      Mark of The Beast
      A.
      Star of Remphan on money
      Three times.
      1.
      The anagram 'mason' along with pyramid.
      2.
      The stars above eagles head.
      3.
      The eagle itself
      B.
      The Barcodes on all products
      Have three sets of Two lines.
      One set on center and the other two sets at the ends of the codes. Each set represents Six.
      C.
      Our DNA is encoded 666
      Carbon-12 ⚛️🔯
      is composed of
      6 protons,
      6 neutrons,
      6 electrons.
      _____________
      The ~ (E)nergy
      Makes ~ (M)ass {at rest}
      At a ~ (C²)onstant
      -
      𓋹 ꜥnḫ - ankh - Be alive (E)
      𓍑 wḏꜢ - wedja - Strong (M)
      𓋴 snb - seneb - healthy (c²)
      Ankh-Chi-Aum/Om-
      Ouroboros-(E):
      BE ALIVE:
      To have life -
      Vital (E)nergy
      ꜥnḫ (lit. Cause to live);
      evolves to ⲱⲛϩ; = (lit. ♪ohn/Oh/ohmn). Vibration.
      To have vital energy,
      (to be creative, created {caused to be created})
      Wedja-Xi-Yin-Ouroboros-(M):
      STRONG:
      Be whole, stability,
      have (rest)"(M)ass,"
      UpStrength. Sanctified.
      Sabbath Rest, whole
      (complete, 'sanctified'
      ones self, wholely)
      Seneb-S(t)igma-Yang-
      Ouroboros-(c²):
      HEALTHY:
      To be sound-/steady
      moving i.e. "c²"
      Speed of light² (life²)?
      (C)onstant.~{ine} lol
      Steady moving.
      (Progressing) To be
      sound. Expand (Branch), promote.
      _____________
      "Atheism" is behind
      all of the religions.
      I strongly believe they
      know God exists.
      Its like each civilization
      had the truth of God.
      And the stories.
      Each Civilization
      switched things around,
      and gave new, or altered,
      names to them, once
      they pass it onto
      another Civilization.
      Making sure they
      rename and personalize
      the stories. Possibly for tricking the atheists.
      Then that civilization
      goes away, to maybe
      protect themselves
      from the atheists...?
      So then the next group passes it on, and then
      goes, or went away...
      Sumerians
      Babylonians
      Phonecians
      Egypt
      Greece
      Rome
      All 0f them held this
      truth, renamed it,
      passed it on, then
      went away. And, I think
      the atheists are the
      reason. (Rome however solidified it to our
      present day laws and Constantine ends up
      playing the intergal
      moment in history as
      well as prophecy)
      _____________
      ATHEISM: ⚛️ ⚕️
      On Idols:
      "In practice, one could consider atheists as helping true religion burn away false images of God, thus in the end serving the purpose of true monotheism."
      -Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook, first Chief Rabbi of the Jewish community in Palestine.
      Carbon-12, ⚛️ 12 C ⚕️
      is composed of
      6 protons,
      6 neutrons, and
      6 electrons.
      -
      WHAT IS CARBON - 12
      USED FOR?:
      Carbon-12 is used
      in AMU, because it is
      the only atom that
      has the same
      whole-number mass,
      as in the AMU scale.
      Carbon-12 is also said
      to be a pure isotope
      to base the system on.
      Carbon-12 replaced
      oxygen as the standard relative for measuring
      the atomic weights of
      all other elements.
      (12C) is the most
      abundant of the two stable
      isotopes of carbon (carbon-13 being
      the other), amounting
      to 98.93% of element
      carbon on Earth;
      its abundance is due
      to the triple-alpha
      process by which
      it is created in stars.
      Carbon-12 is of
      particular importance
      in its use as,
      "The Standard" from
      which atomic masses
      of all nuclides are
      measured. Thus,
      its atomic mass
      is exactly 12 daltons,
      by definition.⚛️
      -
      Judaism:
      The Holy One, blessed
      be He; Torah; and Israel.
      ”These three entities
      are each comprised
      of a Pnimiyut:
      (inner dimension) )
      And a Chitzoniyut:
      (external dimension).🔯✡️
      -
      According to legend,
      Chinese characters
      were invented by
      Cangjie, a bureaucrat
      under the legendary
      Yellow Emperor. Inspired
      by his study of the
      animals of the world,
      the landscape of the
      earth and the stars in
      the sky, Cangjie is said
      to have invented symbols called zì (字) - the first Chinese characters."☯️
      Ql羲 ~ "Breath; Vapor;
      Gas. A Mist"
      -
      Brahma (ब्रह्म):
      (nominative singular),
      brahman (ब्रह्मन्) (stem) (neuter gender)
      from root bṛh-, means
      "to be or make firm,(E)
      ~We are Created.~
      strong, solid,(M)
      ~Sabbath established.~
      expand, promote. (c²)"
      ~Teach The Sabbath.~
      Hindu 🕉️
      ____________________
      Also, 666 & 777
      (Numerically 666
      Gramatically 777)
      -
      E=Mc² is also 777:
      The Numbers are 666, but the definition of the words are 777. (Sanctified by keeping and teaching the Sabbath)
      Like God saying:
      -I made you. (E)
      -I Sanctified The
      Sabbath rest for you. (M)
      -Quickly, Keep and,
      Teach The Sabbath. (c²)
      __________________
      ✝️
      The Antichrist system is interconvertable:
      Lucifer Did Not Create anything. Lucifer used
      God's ways, and twisted them to look like God.
      The Antichrist system,
      And It's Church, Will
      Look Like it's Christ's.
      -
      INTERCONVERTABLE:
      "Mutual alteration of the physical or chemical nature of a substance or entity."
      -Free dictionary by: farlex
      A Renewal ~ Ouroboros ♾️
      (Or, energy fluctuation, progressing into negative
      and/or positive sides are at an equal ratio...Yin-Yang)
      I would attribute this to the antichrist and Christ being indistinguishable. The good or bad energies of the two appear identical.
      (Because the antichrist and Christ looks identical.
      This is the fruits we know them from.)666

  • @josemoody1743
    @josemoody1743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ... once upon a time in a parallel universe where the book of Acts was historically accurate 50%
    the question
    ' Was Paul a Christian? ' ...
    king Agrippa said to Paul " with little persuasion you want me to be a Christian "
    in the next verse Paul replied
    " for Pete's sake Agrippa! I am not a Christian perish the thought!
    I am a
    Apocaepileptic Pharisee...
    then we see in
    1 Peter the term Christian in a criminal list
    so in this parallel universe
    King Agrippa knew the difference between Sadducees Pharisees
    Essenes etc etc etc
    so he knew that Paul was something different say a Christian regardless of your ethnicity, culture
    status quo etc etc.,
    not long after during Nero's government ( if you please )
    the Romans had no trouble identifying Christians from those who were not...
    now remember all of this happened in a parallel universe near you 😮😮

    • @ManuelGonzalez-ur6ss
      @ManuelGonzalez-ur6ss ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir your comment is worth pondering
      but the thing is that academinians Shamanes hate Christians
      is that simple

    • @herminepursch2470
      @herminepursch2470 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love stories that start with once upon a time. The bible should have started like that

    • @josemoody1743
      @josemoody1743 ปีที่แล้ว

      but it did not

    • @herminepursch2470
      @herminepursch2470 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it should of

    • @josemoody1743
      @josemoody1743 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

  • @openresearch
    @openresearch 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    best explications ever - thank you very much

  • @biblethumper1624
    @biblethumper1624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Eisenbaum:
    @ 34:00
    No, Romans 1:16 ' Jew and Greek' are pre justification, but Romans 3:28 'Jew nor Greek...' is a reference to post justification status (what most people mistakenly call "saved").
    Romans 1 is written to characterize the fall/fate of humans who deny the reality of God.
    And yes, Paul thinks that Jews are special. I think so too!

  • @patriciadewitt8100
    @patriciadewitt8100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does Paul think belief in Jesus gives Gentiles righteousness? Why not belief in God of Israel?

  • @jimyost2585
    @jimyost2585 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So Paul wasn't a Christian eh? I guess that means the story of his Damascus Road encounter with the Lord was all made up, along with the Lord's instruction to Ananias to pray for him to receive his sight and saying: "He is a chosen vessel unto me to bear my name before Gentiles, and kings, and the Children of Israel." (Acts 9:15 in the King James Version).
    There are many crazy people posting videos on TH-cam, especially religionists who are being driven by kingdom of darkness religious spirits to do it.

    • @chrisfrompasadena3013
      @chrisfrompasadena3013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course it was made up.

    • @jimyost2585
      @jimyost2585 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisfrompasadena3013 ~ You might find this to be interesting:
      In the mid-1800's the world famous French philosopher, philologist, and scholar Ernest Renan was also a world famous atheist who wrote extensively about it, and he had a large following of fellow atheists from all around the world, most of whom were also scholars who were active in academia. Renan was regarded as being one of the most important scholars in the world at that time. At some point he made a very public statement that he was going to research the history of the gospels and was going to prove Christianity to be a giant hoax once and for all. The audacity of his statement surprised his peers.
      He moved to Palestine and lived there for five years extensively researching all kinds of writings and artifacts, and he finally concluded that the gospel accounts are all true, and he became a Christian, and he went very public about it (much to the dismay of his atheist peers).
      He went on during his later life to write many Christian books, the most renowned one being "The History Of The Origins Of Christianity" (six volumes). Somewhere along the way he made the statement that the book of Luke is the most beautiful book that has ever been written.

  • @car-or-ock616
    @car-or-ock616 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here is the question (21) that is missing in this interview, Dr. Eisenbau: How do you respond to Robert Eisenman's analysis of 'Paul as Herodian'? Let's just throw in for the sake of the audience, that Eisenman makes extensive use of the Acts. His reading of Josephus and the Acts I parallel I particularly insightful.

    • @antonius3745
      @antonius3745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eisenmann has not taken into his view that 80% of Paul's letters are not from Paul in the first place.

  • @jeanboshears6689
    @jeanboshears6689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Several times in the book of Acts they are called people of the way; a sect of Judaism. The first believers were Jews.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doers of the Law. Workers of the Way. Jacob Zadok (James the Just) and his family were all essenes and Sicarii.

  • @rogelioancheta2430
    @rogelioancheta2430 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul once said , "if in this life your only hope is in christ , then you are of all men the most to be pitied..."
    That also I learned from reading the scriptures , christ is only half of the story , you need Christ to come a second time in your life to become complete - you need the coming of his alter ego , the reverse of christ and his own opposite to complete your salvation... Yes , another counselor is coming coming in his behalf , and he will add more knowledge and turn the world upside down...

    • @TheSolfilm
      @TheSolfilm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an interpretation. Paul was speaking to whom ? he was especially speaking to the christians of Corinthe that seamed to believe in the resurrection. What Paul says is that if you only believe in Jesus but not in his resurrection, there's no point on christianity. That's another interpretation. Don't forget to put the scriptures in context.

    • @jacksquat4140
      @jacksquat4140 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's a little too late for the Bible to be relevant. 2,000 years have now come and gone, and the world has continued on as it always has.

    • @chrisfrompasadena3013
      @chrisfrompasadena3013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jacksquat4140true

  • @davidcrane6593
    @davidcrane6593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Paul was not a Christian?... goofy people will come up with the strangest ideas.

  • @duffgordon9005
    @duffgordon9005 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first JEW , ABRAM, was justified by God, in GEN 15, because he had faith in God's provision for him. BEFORE Circumcision, BEFORE, being willing to offer Isaac on the alter. Thus Paul argues, Salvation , USING THE FIRST JEW AS PROOF, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH anything outside of faith in Christ.

    • @schmetterling4477
      @schmetterling4477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do know that that's just a fairytale, right? ;-)

  • @vap0rtranz
    @vap0rtranz ปีที่แล้ว

    Days after the interview come the hateful comments. Never does the Good Doctor deny that Paul believed in Jesus. Great analogy about Luther being the founder of all Protestants but Luther never went to a "Protestant" Church. Basically, Dr. Eisenbaum's thesis is that Paul cuts ties with his own Judaism, leaves the Jerusalem Church behind -- some of who were among the 12 disciples! --, and moves fully to a Jesus without the Jewish part. i.e. Paul makes his own path. That is not how most Christians view Paul. But it is dang important. Christians wound up practicing some Judaic beliefs and some not. Circumcision = yes (unless Roman Catholic). Kosher food = no (except some Orthodox). Et cetera.

  • @nomadicrecovery1586
    @nomadicrecovery1586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is with the weird way of asking questions of this guy with no communication in Between? Might want to work on that

  • @jordanpeters3746
    @jordanpeters3746 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the references to Jesus are removed from the Greek text of Romans 1,1-17 one is left with a text in which PAUL is claiming to have been chosen by God to explain the scriptures. This in itself is not proof that this was the original text ... however ... when this text is closely studied it is found that it was carefully structured in a way that allows alterations of the text to be identified. This original text consists of 1000 letters arranged in 4 sections, each of 51 words. The word God is used eight times.In each instance the first letter of the word God, or the first letter of its definite article when it has one, is an even number of letters from the beginning of the text. If the positions of these first letters are totaled and divided by 8 one gets the first letter of the Greek word in the text that means "The present moment". Also, in 7 out of the 8 instances of the use of the word God the word God, or its definite article when it has one, is an odd number of words from the beginning of the text The odd one out is the only use of the nominative.
    Note that verse 11 has to be moved to follow verse 15 in order for the four 51 word sections to be seen (verse 11 has been flagged by some scholars as possibly being out of place).
    "Paul, called to be an apostle having been set apart to the gospel of God, which he promised beforehand through the prophets of Him in the Scriptures Holy. To all those being in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God the Father of us. First indeed, I thank the God of me for all of you, because the faith of you is being proclaimed in all the world.
    Now my witness is God, whom I serve in the spirit of me how unceasingly mention of you I make, always upon the prayers of me imploring, if perhaps now at last I will make a prosperous journey by the will of God, to come to you. Now that is to be encouraged together among you through the among one another faith of you both and of me.
    Now I do not want you to be ignorant, brothers, that many times I purposed to come to you, and was hindered until the present, in order that some fruit I might have also among you, as even among the other Gentiles. Both to Greeks and to barbarians, both to the wise and the foolish a debtor I am. Thus as to me there is readiness also to you who are in Rome to preach the gospel.
    For I long to see you, in order that I may impart some spiritual gift to you to the strengthening of you. For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for the power of God it is, unto salvation to everyone believing -- both to Jewish first and to Greek. For the righteousness of God in it is revealed, from faith to faith, as it has been written: And the righteous by faith will live".
    when one turns to the Gospel of Mark, chapter 1, one finds that verses 3-5 have 51 words, verse 6-8 have 51 words. Verses 9-11 have 52 words ... but if Nazareth is left out so that it says that Jesus came from Galilee, as does Matthew, then there are 51 words. Throughout the rest of the Gospel numerous 51 word "verses" can be seen. Over half of the text we have today was added to the Gospel by someone other than the original author.
    The original Gospel of Mark (or whatever it was called) was the script of a PLAY. In this play Jesus may have gone by a different name.

  • @edinshealtiel3754
    @edinshealtiel3754 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    E X A C T L Y ..... THANKYOUUUUUUUUUUU ...
    The Heading Only ....

  • @trinitymatrix9719
    @trinitymatrix9719 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Paul destroyed all false pagan teachings and taught everything of God and Jesus Christ. Ameeem ❤❤🙏🙏

  • @theseed3402
    @theseed3402 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Self proclaimed apostle with no named witnesses. There are 12 apostles of Jesus, not 13, the requirement to replace Judas Iscariot is listed in Acts 1:21-26 spoken of by Peter himself, after which they elected Mattias as the replacement of Judas. 12 apostles only, this is also confirmed in the book of Revelation 21:14.
    Peter, the man who Jesus said "I will build my church upon this rock" to, was the apostle to the gentiles listed in Acts 15:7, but Jesus said he would be taken captive, so then his church by proxy had been prophesied to have been taken captive.
    paul hijacked Peter's responsibility that the gentiles might hear from his lips and believe. Also the rest of the 10 remaining apostles (Judas was dead at the time, Mattias was not yet elected) they too were charged with going out to all nations (Translated from greek: "Ethnos" this means heathen, gentiles) to teach in the way of the Father/Son, Holy spirit and to obey everything jesus had commanded them to do, Matthew 28:18-20. James and the Elders and the other apostles also gave gentiles basic instructions - such as what is listed in Acts 21:18-28 where paul is called out for teaching apostasy contrary to what he should have taught after Peter spoke out in Acts 15 about how the gentiles shouldn't bear the yoke of the Jews, but rather stick to certain laws... not "grace"(which is mercy) by paul's idea of faith, which goes about as far as acknowledging Jesus as you would Santa claus.
    paul was teaching the Jews who stayed among the gentiles to forsake Moses and even the EVERLASTING Covenant of circumcision(Genesis 17:4-14)... which if Jew neglected, they would be cut off from Abraham's blessing... cut off from a blessing from the God of the living: Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. After paul was called out for teaching apostasy(lawlessness, do as thou wilt, let no man judge in you in any matter of food or drink and so on), he tried to 1 Cor 9:20-22 his way out of it (to the Jew he became a Jew to win the Jew etc...) by going through with what was known as a Nazarene vow, listed in Acts 21:18-28.
    Rather than explain the law away like he usually did - calling it nailed to the cross(yet there are no reports of him being there at the crucifixion) calling the Law of God a "ministry" of death when in reality it God's law are precepts which preserve our life according to King David, rather than declaring that he was dead to the law by his own arbitrary means and arbitrary gospel of grace (mercy) through faith alone. paul was ultimately found by the Jews before completing this ritual 6 days into it, and was rightfully thrown out and found himself standing before the courts for teaching apostasy, which is lawlessness. He has no named witnesses to his conversion stories, his conversion stories do not line up, there's tons of translator bias surrounding his text and even in 2 Peter where it is deceptively translated in english to make paul seem like too much of a genius to understand, when in reality Peter called his writings "dysnoetas" meaning to destroy good sense which others would take and twist to their own destruction, like constantine in 238 AD when he used paul's lawless gospel to cause people to disregard the sabbath and worship his sun god on sunday.. the paul we read about in the bible, who takes up more than half of the new testament, is the anti-christ Jesus prophesied would come in his name, performing signs and miracles even to fool the elect if possible: According to paul the sign of a true apostle is in signs and wonders or 2* cor 12:12, but according to Jesus, these are the sign of a deceiver, or Matthew 24:24, and he said not to believe the person who said they saw Jesus in the wilderness like paul had in Matthew 24:26. paul taught no parable, quotes nothing Jesus said(other than take this cup and drink, last supper), and Jesus himself never taught "grace" through faith but rather obedience for grace, and to build upon his teaching or else build upon sand (matthew 7:24-27), that the law wasn't over until heaven and earth disappeared - to exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees (matthew 5:17-20) and that in the end, everyone is judged by their faith as well as their works (Revelation chapter 2 to 3, also in the final judgement - Revelation 21:8, 22:12.)
    Jesus said that the only way through to the Father is through the son and whoever doesn't gather with him only scatters. Ask Jesus how to be saved and you'll see that you must do the will of his Father in heaven. In order to do that you must worship him as he desires, by the power of his spirit or John 4:23-24, in order to obtain what is necessary to worship God is John 14:15-17. And no we are not saved by our own works - there is only one who is good, and good deeds can only come from the holy spirit. We are saved by doing the work of the Father, or by doing the will of the Father, or as Jesus so adequately put it - his mother sister and brother are those who do the will of his Father in heaven or Matthew 12:49-50. If one wants to be saved, simply become family. If you want to inherit eternal life, look no further than Matthew 19:16-19, God's law, precepts which preserve our lives.

  • @youngknowledgeseeker
    @youngknowledgeseeker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 Corinthians 9:19-21 : In some sense I think Paul *did* think he was a Christian. He's certainly Jewish by blood. However in the sense of being beholden to the law of Moses, he says outright he is not under the law of Moses, *only* under the law of *christ* now. A " Christian*.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not by blood. He’s a Herodian, which means they converted right around the time the Romans made them vassal
      Kings of Judea after defeating the Maccabees. So Paul’s family was Jewish for 2-3 generations prior to him at most. He viewed himself as a Roman citizen first and foremost as can be seen by how often he asserts his citizenship to get out of trouble.

    • @youngknowledgeseeker
      @youngknowledgeseeker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thor-Orion do you have any proof or evidence?

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@youngknowledgeseeker yeah, Josephus and Paul’s own writings. You think he would be living with the Roman emperor’s family if he wasn’t a collaborator with the Roman occupation? He and Josephus are like the propagandists for the Flavians.

    • @youngknowledgeseeker
      @youngknowledgeseeker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thor-Orion so no proof..ok

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@youngknowledgeseeker hahahaha. Knowledge seeker? Hardly.

  • @jacquesvincent3897
    @jacquesvincent3897 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HOW TO DESCRIBE THIS 1:57:30 LONG VIDEO...........2 Timothy 3:7-9 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
    8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
    9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

  • @ronkebarber6238
    @ronkebarber6238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And the Apostle Paul was the last desciple to be called by Jesus Luke 18:22. I believe he was also present at the time of the baptism of Jesus Christ, because he would have known about John the Baptist and everything he said concerning the Messiah, which could have prompted him, as a Pharisee of pharisees, to seek out validation from him in Luke 18.
    1) The rich young ruler's main concern was to "inherit eternal life " vs 18. He judged himself worthy because he believed he had been obeying all the laws.
    2) He had been listening to Jesus's teachings and was convinced that he was a man of authority, though, he wasn't ready to accept the fact He could be the Messiah, so he approached Jesus in a condescending manner- as he was a pharisee and they believed themselves to be above everyone else. So, he sucked up to Jesus by calling Him "Good Master ". Jesus saw through him and responded in a way that means He was God, if Paul believed that He was good, and went on to poke holes in his legalistic beliefs- he believed he never committed adultery, but Jesus taught that to just look on a maiden lustfully already constituted a breaking of the law, so was bearing false witness, which they were notorious for, but wouldn't admit to, so he was indirectly stealing from the temple coffers in the name of doing business for God Galatians 1:14; as was not honoring their fathers and mothers in the name of bringing offerings to the temple etc. and finally, told him to get rid of the source of his pride: his wealth, and distribute to the poor, as they usually pretended to do to look good before the people. He wasn't ready to even exchange that to gain eternal life, which Jesus understood (and gave him time before answering his calling vs 22).
    He began to follow Jesus from then onwards, persecuting Him just to get physical proof on Him as a fraud. I believe he was behind all the questions to get Jesus to break the laws- including paying taxes (Jesus was called the Son of David, David and his house have been tax exempt by King Saul, for slaying Goliath, by this they're negating His relationship with King David, hence, cannot be the Messiah, they even insult Him of being born of fornication, as Mary got pregnant before getting married John 8:41 etc.)
    3) I believe he spearheaded the group that deceived Judas to betray Him, and those they bought to shout "crucify him " over and over again until Jesus was crucified on the cross. He really did persecute Jesus and by so doing, get to follow Him as other desciples, learning from His teachings all along, even sneaking behind to witness the last supper to confidently say he received it of the Lord
    1 Corinthians 11:23, to make hin an Apostle born out of due time - long after his calling 1 Corinthians 15:8.
    3) His anger made him turn his his back on his own life, and began to persecute everyone linked to Jesus, from Stephen up till the time he fell off his high horse- so to speak, and was forced to come to reality of who Jesus Christ really was- The Son if man(David), The Son of God, which he knew all along but his legalistic mind was resisting it: he finally called Jesus "Lord", though subconsciously, but he always knew He was Lord when he heard His voice again Acts 9:4-5.
    After this, he became so overzealous enough to begin to let everyone know that "Jesus was the Son of God, and the Messiah" vs 20,22. He began to immediately experience persecution himself, which got him to Arabia, where he had ample time and opportunity to review all the proof he had collected while he was persecuting Jesus 2 Timothy 4:13. He could even have been the naked young man, who was used to entrap JesusChriston the night of His arrest. Mark 14:51-52. (That was why he could write with so much understanding of the Lord in all his epistles).
    4) Philippians 3 was where he finally came to terms with the fact that all his wealth could not be exchanged for the knowledge of Christ and gaining eternal life- his all life pursuit Luke18:18! This came at a price though - he lost all his fortune, that he wasn't willing to give up at that time: Luke 18:18-30, calling them "dung." But now, forgetting all his past life and pressing towards the prize of the "high calling " of Jesus, as he now sees it!
    That was why it was easy for the other desciples to extend to him the right hand of fellowship as the Apostle of the gentiles Galatians 2:9.
    That was also why he could withstand the other desciples when they were preaching the law and circumcision together with the grace of God in Christ Jesus in Acts 15. Immediately after preaching in the synagogue that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, Acts 9:20-22, God sent Barnabas to help him fulfill his calling, and spread the gospel if salvation to both Jews and gentiles, especially the gentiles.
    The gospel of the salvation of our souls is simply by grace through faith in the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the completed work of the cross that no one can add to or remove from by doing good or bad. The Holy Spirit was sent to guide, teach, interpret, and keep until the end, John 14:26. Thus, He quickenes the believers and takes them all up at rapture. Until then, we give ourselves to studying the scriptures to make ourselves approved unto God as workmen that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth-daily!
    That was the reason why the Apostle loved his Jewish brethren so much that he wouldn't mind being accursed, as long as they can all (the 12 tribes), be saved! Romans 9:3!
    That was the reason he endures so much beatings and maltreatment from the Jews, who really hated him, but he continued to concern himself with them, even took up collection of money for the Jewish belivers, even though he was sent to the gentiles-39 stripes 5 timed, got shipwrecked, got bitten by a venomous snake, but like the Duracell battery, he still kept going strong till the end! How stinky and painful and full of putrefying sores, his body must have been, yet he kept on going...
    So he ran and finished his course and ensured that the outcast tribe of Benjamin, finally has a place in the body of Jesus Christ, and will sit with Him on the right hand of the throne of God, in heavenly places!
    He made and left us all a legacy, so we can all make it. Thus, he is free from the blood of everyone who rejects so great a salvation story!

  • @ronkebarber6238
    @ronkebarber6238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 Corinthians 12:1-4. 14 years ago, Paul would have met with the Apostle John and Daniel- Revelation 4:1; Revelation 10:1-7, when the shut prophecies were ready to be accomplished, which I believe did have something to do with the mystery of God which had been hidden before the foundation of the world. Deuteronomy 29:29; Romans 16:25-26; Colossians I:25-29; Psalm 25:14; Matthew 13:11.

  • @antonius3745
    @antonius3745 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She really reveals the true Paul and not the constructed Paul in the so-called Pauline letters or as Luke describes him and his so-called conversion what is no conversion but a revelation as Paul himself describes.
    Also her understanding of Luther is very special. Indeed Luther was a catholic visionary but not a reformer, as in which Reformation has modelled him and as Paul, he is a mystic. He did elas understand Paul through the eyes of Augustine (in my view wrong concept), but already opposed to it also.

  • @mikeswhitney
    @mikeswhitney 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. E was closer to conservative views of Paul than I expected. One thing I really did not get is how she perceived Paul as expecting the end of the world. It also seemed weird that students thought Jesus was the mild one and Paul was the rough, crude missionary. That concept seems reversed.

  • @courag1
    @courag1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just imagine that this Bible scholar, a professor in Seminary, would NOT be allowed to speak in many churches today! Suppose the disciples who were hiding from both the Roman soldiers AND the Jews, felt that you could not trust the testimony of women when Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples, that the tomb was empty! Only Peter and John went to the tomb! 2 out of the 11 remaining of the disciples! Male or female, risking my life or not, I’d think that running to the tomb was the right thing to do!
    Let’s face it, the majority of any group, do “group think”!
    Truth is truth! Our God created both Adam and Eve, in HIS IMAGE.
    New gene studies reveal that women are far more the same to men, than Chimps are to men. We women can SPEAK!!! Yes, if there were no difference, then men and women could not have children!
    WOMEN are ALSO. In God’s image! No more LGBTQ…XYZ!
    God made man and also woman, in HIS IMAGE. Adam and Eve … NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!!

    • @schmetterling4477
      @schmetterling4477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awh, you are so cute when you are outing your insecurity about your sexual orientation. ;-)

  • @lonnierandall7882
    @lonnierandall7882 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He received this endorsement from Peter, that Paul's writings are scripture.
    2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
    16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

  • @dbaargosy4062
    @dbaargosy4062 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @ivanj.conway9919
    @ivanj.conway9919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:20 - How convenient for anyone attempting to establish a religion of any sort. Who says this? Who has the right to say this? So this was stated so there could be no further evolution of Judaism, then these followers of Christ came along with loads of new, added, scripture, until it got to the point where THEY, said pretty much, the same thing, so there could never be any further, evolution of Christianity, either. Where as you have mystical branches of all religions that claim the complete, opposite; that God NEVER, EVER, stops speaking to humanity directly, and that Divine Revelation can go on forever, pretty much.
    No one has ever, yet explained HOW, EXACTLY, God SPOKE, to people in ancient times. How the heck, do we know that it could not have been nothing more than your inner, intuition, which we all, possess today, as well. And if it was more DIRECT, and PHYSICAL/AUDIBLE, as religious literalist always, seem to think; then why the heck, could it not have been a UFO/ET encounter, as well?! That is if we must buy into this nonsense, at all.

    • @hershelfowler6257
      @hershelfowler6257 ปีที่แล้ว

      Historical scholars always point out the Egyptian, Canaanite, Babylonian, Persian influence on the bible, but leave out the Greeks. Therefore most of us miss the philosophical importance of the bible. It's a book were God is the central character that holds it together. But the bible is about people, the motives and ambitions of man are the same today, as they were then. The God of Israel makes the most since from a philosophical perspective. In the beginning he was the logos the word, by revelations its revealed as the Alpha and Omega, time passing. Language is our likeness to God, running out of time is how we fall short. I like to imagine the God of Israel like a electron. Its everywhere, but no where until someone observes it.

    • @ivanj.conway9919
      @ivanj.conway9919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hershelfowler6257 : Wow, I'm not even, halfway through this video yet.
      I like your analysis here. You know, if christian extremist could see the bible as mostly if not completely, myth and allegory, then I would have no problem with it, at all. Sadly, as we all know; they don't.
      Only earlier today, I was watching these videos talking about Ancient Sumeria and their creation myths - though the presenter did not consider them myths - and how they predate the bible account by nearly a thousand years themselves. It sickens and infuriates me to no end, that people who claim to want to know and spread "truth," absolutely, refuse to educate themselves, on these things. If I'm not mistaken; even, most Jews today, consider the Old Testament, their bible, as being mostly, allegory and not meant to be taken as historical fact.
      When it comes to Paul; well, I really, don't know what to make of him. He took it upon himself to completely, recreate this movement to make it more palatable to gentiles, to the point that it eventually, became a completely, different religion as a result of this; completely, devoid of Christ's original, message, altogether, it seems. And senseless, brainwashed, christians today, are completely, OK with this. Even as a teenager I could not understand why there was so, so, much talk about Paul and his writings when the movement was supposed to be about Christ and what HE, taught. Today, now, first century Christianity has been so, suppressed and so much lost now; we have no idea any longer, and may never know now, what Christ's original message was, at all, as it's all about Paul and how he seems to have twisted everything.
      I personally, take the Gnostic approach to christianity and Spirituality in general, as I believe it EVOLVES, FOREVER, really, and should, as well, with our understanding of God the First Source and Supreme, evolving forever, as we gain more and more knowledge of the workings of things, over time. I too, see God as more, sort of, as you describe the Supreme here. Being the First Source; God is OFF and IN, everything within creation that we know of, and all that we do not yet, know of, which I'm sure is infinitely more. Just as these concepts evolved from the Ancient Hebrew period to the much later Greco / Roman period, so too, do they continue to evolve - or SHOULD, anyway - on to this present day. Why can't they? Why shouldn't they? Correct? As a result of all this; I find talking to religious extremist of all sorts, to be an insanely, infuriating and exasperating experience. And I'm sure I'm not the only one, either.
      Warmest Wishes. Be Well and Safe. Out. 🤨🙂🖐🏼😔

    • @hershelfowler6257
      @hershelfowler6257 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivanj.conway9919 My mom had a Webster's dictionary from 1948. One of the definitions of Gnostic was the blending of Greek and near east cultures. In some ways that's what Paul did, but at the cost of the lesson Jesus was teaching. Morality is the line that divides mankind, love is the sacrifice necessary to save it. A world built on morality is bound to tear itself apart. In Jesus time we drew lines and shot arrows, our time we draw lines and aim ICBMs. Lord help us.

    • @ivanj.conway9919
      @ivanj.conway9919 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hershelfowler6257 : There is so much senseless, unthinking, brainwashing within the church today, that to classify yourself as anything other than what the church considers orthodox and traditional will of course, get you soundly, condemned, as it did for Gnostics in ancient times. Thank God that at least, today, considering oneself a Gnostic will not get you tortured and burned alive, at least, for now.
      Actually, I cannot consider myself "christian" any longer, in any conventional sense, as I've read so much and studied so much and accept so much that reaches quite, beyond the scope of modern day, christian thought. It might be better for me to call myself more a Later Day Gnostic, to separate myself from the Gnostics of old, who's beliefs overall, I do not hold to. It was the wisdom and enlightenment of their time, with the knowledge and understanding they had to work with then, but this is a completely, new age with a completely, different and far expanded understanding of things. I'm Gnostic to the extent that I rely greatly, on what my own, inner, intuition tells me about things. That Still, Small, Voice, Within in other words, as to how things should be for this day and age.
      There was nothing wrong with Paul seeking to bring Gentiles into this Jewish fold I guess, but he seemed to be willing to sacrifice too much in the attempt to do so. First off being; claiming that Jesus was God Incarnate, which the original, Jewish followers of Christ never believed, and never COULD, believe, for being Jews as well; this would have been considered blasphemy of the highest order. Jesus himself, remaining a devote Jew to the very, bitter, end; would never have claimed this either, for the very, same, reason. To say he was a "Son of God," if he ever did make that clam, was to merely, point out that he was a Son of God in the same sense that we are ALL, Sons and Daughters of God, having a Divine, Eternal, Nature, which I'm not sure the backward, superstitious, people of his day, had a full and proper grasp of. But to say you are a Son or Daughter OF GOD, is far, far, different than claiming you ARE GOD, YOURSELF. That is; of EQUAL STATUS WITH GOD, sort of thing. And that is one of many BIG, compromises Paul made, in order to try to attempt to win Gentiles for this almost, if not exclusively, Jewish Sect. He was really, creating a whole, new, religion where one did not exist before. Christ brought a message to the world, but HE, was NOT, the message, HIMSELF. That's a big difference.
      All our Spiritual Insights should come out of LOVE, correct, as everything the Supreme brings into existence is brought into existence out of LOVE. Love is the Golden Rule that governs everything. Also, Love in this sense is more a STATE OF BEING, rather than a feeling or emotion as such, though that is part of it, as well. You BECOME, Love once you take it to the Divine, God, Level. I also, believe that Love exist as a FORM OF ENERGY, too, which we can tap into if we so choose. When it is born out of Love it must unify, as you cannot be divided if you TRULY LOVE, that which you associate with. All the more so if you BECOME, Love on top of it. You see?
      Personally, I believe this is maybe, hopefully, a little closer to the message that Christ Himself attempted to bring to the world. The "Kingdom" he kept talking about, was of course, NOT, a physical/material Kingdom but a "Spiritual Kingdom of Divine Love." This is why he claimed that to receive the Kingdom as he had, was to make us MORE, FAMILY, to him than even, his flesh and blood family who had not accepted and received the Kingdom. Or something, more or less, to that effect. Once you've received it you have obviously, already entered into it. If taken wholeheartedly, Christ's Message would indeed, TRANSFORM THE WORLD. We would indeed, have HEAVEN ON EARTH.
      Warmest Wishes. Be Well and Safe. Out For Now. 🙂🖐🏼😔

  • @mistermousterian
    @mistermousterian ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A tier ad read.

  • @terryfox9344
    @terryfox9344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh No! My parents turned me into a Jew! (According to Paul) Good thing that I am a follower of Jesus and not Paul.

  • @simonewilliams7224
    @simonewilliams7224 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus was not a Christian, either.
    Jesus came to save ALL people of the earth. But first to do it among His Chosen People and then sent all the Apostles to bring all people to Jesus. Jesus never gave His Truth a name.

  • @ronkebarber6238
    @ronkebarber6238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 Corinthians 9:22.
    Although Paul was very zealous in keeping the law, but through the grace he received, he was able to show the abundance of this very grace in his ministry. Luke 18, Jesus Christ debunked all his theories about keeping the laws , by showing him that although he kept the letter of the law, yet he offended in the very essence of it. For example, he prided himself to have kept the laws in verse 20, but we know that the pharisees would often catch adulterers in the very act. How could they do this if they were not stalking or peeping? Then they go and bear witness so they could be judged and stoned etc. Paul did all this in order to appear holy and blameless concerning the law Philippians 3:6. He got rich by trading in the Jews religion Galatians 1:14, and became prideful of his ill-gotten wealth, and wouldn't even want to part with a penny Luke 18:23. But when he got to know the grace that bought him, he counted all his law keeping and pride and wealth as dung, because he could clearly see his own wretchedness despite his place in the society. He even recognized himself as being the chief recipient of the grace of God in Christ Jesus that saved him 1 Timothy 1:15-17.
    Grace would do that to a person, for which the law has previously hoodwinked into living a life of constant condemnation and trying to cover each one up with another- to no avail. The law wasn't made to save, but to show the sinner his sinfulness and helplessness to do anything about it. Grace gets him under the fountain that washes sins away, gets him justified and the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus by the Holy Spirit is imputed in him. His mind is renewed daily with the infilling of the Holy Spirit and by studying the scriptures. He has no more consciousness of sins but will be convicted by the Holy Spirit and be pardoned. He has a new life of God in Christ 1 John 5:11-12, and this life is what gets taken out and up to meet Jesus Christ in the air, gets his body changed to be like His, and gets to be presented faultless before the presence of God the Father in the heavenly places. Then, as one with the Head, the new creation called "Church " returns to rescue the remnants of Israel Zechariah 14.

  • @marygilbertson9469
    @marygilbertson9469 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Paul ❤️

  • @Jeremy-am
    @Jeremy-am 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoying your interview! But as Ecclesiastes says, 'To everything there is a season.' Perhaps for your interviews, a smaller Picture-in-Picture or an emoji face would be more fitting for you, letting your guests' words be the light upon the hill.

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law ปีที่แล้ว

    Jews a subset of Israel, Greeks (diaspora) are also a subset of Israel.

  • @Thomasw540
    @Thomasw540 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Christian" was the term the 10th Legion assigned to the Jesus Followers,
    Paul was a Jesus Follower.
    Ergo, from the Roman perspective, Paul was a Jesus Follower/Christian.
    You anti-theist academics and pro-Life apologists are conducting your alleged scholarship in the manner Robert frost dismissed free verse: it's like playing tennis without a net.

  • @biblethumper1624
    @biblethumper1624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Eisenbaum:
    @ about 30:00. I don't think Paul was looking for a way to justify the incorporation of Gentiles into Israel b/c this was a practice that extends back to Abram's servant Eliezer of Damascus, one born in Abram's household. (Gen15). Ruth, the Moabitess and Rachab of Jericho also joined Israel. And Caleb the Kenizzite obviously joined in Egypt or very shortly thereafter. He was incorporated into Judah and became a leader of the people along with Joshua. Mainly though, it was during the first celebration of the Passover (in the wilderness) that God gave instructions for the joiner (alien convert) to Israel (Exodus 12:48).
    This was not new. There was one law for the native and stranger alike. And, there still is.
    Amen!

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, he was building the foundation for a Universal Roman Religion.

  • @debunkingthefundamentalist
    @debunkingthefundamentalist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, this was when the first Christians were Jews. But here is the point on legitimacy of the Resurrection. Unfortunately as I have said in many episodes to my own subs, I was once a Christian who did objective research versus just taking apologists claims as truth. I am actually someone who wants to be proven wrong. But the real facts are there was not one written word of the great miracle during Yeshua's life. The real facts are the prophecies were taken out of context, mistranslated or flat out added if one would actually read the most original manuscript of Isaiah of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The real facts are the outside historical "proofs" like Josephus, Tacitus and Pliny The Younger only mention there was a Yeshua and his following who yes were being persecuted but no, they did not believe there was a resurrection. If one would actually research claims made by WLC, Strobel and the like, one would most likely be on their way to deconversion. As the evidence isn't there at all regardless of how much apologists try to manipulate to attempt to show it is. Cheers, DCF