What Was Paul's View of Salvation? It's Not What You Think!
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- In this informal extended interview with host Sam of TH-cam channel @transfigured3673 I talk about my 43 year career teaching and studying the apostle Paul since graduate school days. My focus is on Paul's Hellenistic view of "Salvation," and how he combined Hebrew motifs of "resurrection of the dead," and apocalyptic eschatology with a kind of "Dualistic" view of eternal salvation. It was truly a "New Creation." And he even called it that!
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Oh my &&&, I love this stuff. Why couldn't I have discovered this 20 years ago? Dr.Tabor, thanks for uploading SO MUCH! You're given us (viewers, followers) your time, energy, intellect, and patience again and again. This is your life's work; thank you for giving it to the world. I'm so glad you're not a snobby academic (I can say that because I am one!)
DR Tabor, I have listened and watched your lectures & interactions with other professors and I am astonished by your intellect. Your memory is hugely perfected. Thank you so very VERY much for sharing your lifetime of scholarship with those of us who have not had the opportunity for following your path. God bless you ✝️ & keep you safe.
Thank you, Mr. Tabor for great interesting information. Greg
Very, very interesting. I intend on re-watching this video several more times in addition to getting your books.
I haven't watched the video but I have a question for Tabor. You mention Hellenistic philosophy plays a large role in the ideas of Paul. However, the first 40 pages of Schweitzer's book on Paul, plays that idea down. Do you have a difference of opinion with Schweitzer's premise regarding this?
Sorry, I like your work, but soon after the first hour commercials started coming about every four to five minutes. This made it virtually unlistenable/unwatchable. I quit watching after the third time. One thought isn’t even finished before a commercial comes in and breaks the flow. Surely this must be a mistake. How about one commercial every 15 minutes or so? Thanks.
Not under his control..get a premium TH-cam account if you don't like commercials.Peace.
If you're going to listen to great content like this, get a TH-cam premium account. Completely worth price of a couple coffees per month
Beast system. Don't buy premium anything. Join me in the desert and let's get started, or I'll go by myself anyway. I've done two winters in North East. 0311 trained. Be the change or go back. Peace.
These topics do require we sit and reflect for periods, commercials do interfere with the induced reverie experienced by listening.
@@patrickbrownrigg1058 Get TH-cam premium. It's well worth it if you're going to watch philosophical content like this.
Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was the people who followed him around preaching against what he was teaching. 2 Corinthians 12 needs to be read in light of the couple chapters before. These people were casting doubt on Paul's apostleship. This was no small problem.
Paul was THE LEAST LIKELY Apostle, Buit NO ONE has touched him in influence , and s truly a GOSPEL , worthy of it's meaning- Happy NEWS. God tells us , and has showed us- THAT IN NO WAY can we know His ways.. God is the eternal "contrarion" / How many of us would have "allowed" Jesus to pick a Diablos as one of his 12 Fellows.. I am sooo thankful that he "Bragged on himself" as no one else can come Close to His Power and Suffering- Just as Christ said "LOOK AT MY POWER" so when looking ast Paul's life- God pointing and saying - Look at the Power I have given him/ THERE IS NO WAY PAUL COULD BE ACCUSED OF FAVORITISM, rather hat-ism
@GizmoFromPizmo According to the law of first mention, you are correct, thorns are people
At 1:12:39 Dr. Tabor says, "I'm not a confessing Christian...." Did I hear this comment correctly? If he's not, this so sad and I will jo longer listen to Dr. Tabor.
Why?
The personal touch (how brave) Thank you!
As always a very thoughtful inputs on Paul, I think Dr. Tabor is the best when it comes to Paul.
Excellent. I love Dr. Tabor's passion
PASSION- How can anyone have passion for something he thinks is a MYTH He just Fibbed sating Paul believed Jesus was justr a man, as he cut off his reading before Paul lays out his HIGH CHRYSTOLOGY. I am finally figuring our=t why Paul is the most hated- Paul has "without question" written those Letters, and PAUL , HOW DARE HE!, speaks of all the resserection witnesses that are "still with us." BECAUSE OF THIS 1) Paul is a Liar, 2) Paul 'made up a new religion- BUT FOR TABOR TO SAY THAT PAUL THOUGHT JESUS was "just a man" is so obscene, honestly he should fired. THAT STATEMENT IS DELUSIOINAL. It is not what YOU Tabor believe, YOU TELL THE AUDIENCE THAT Paul's Jesus, was a "regular guy, in face of ALL: the Passion Paul writes about Jesus Christ? Did the "Christ who came to Paul- THAST WAS A REGULAR GUY SCENE? . THe reason the "academy Types" have to make ridiculous comments is BECAUSE THey are mocked if they displayed faith.
Matthew 1:23
“Behold, a virgin shall be with child and shall bring forth a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel” (which being interpreted is, “God with us”).
Though I don't agree with all the conclusions, this is actually an outstanding discussion.
Thank you for sharing.
A fun (but dangerous) game to play on Tabor videos is to have a drink every time he says ‘so forth’ (not recommended for non-alcoholics 😀)
Just teasing Dr Tabor, love your work, always fascinating
This is exactly what we search the books to learn about! Thank you!
does this have anything to do with the temple of the venerated Julio Cesar ?
You made me LOL when you said, “[a] [person] can put anything together.”
Isaiah 40-66 An Unfulfilled Dream. An excellent presentation video Dr. Tabor. It was pulled down. I hope you put it back up! I forwarded it to many people who are wanting to watch! ❤
Yes I was watching it, half way and now it's gone, can you send it to me? It was so good
Yeah I wondered what happened to that one. Was going to listen to it the other day on my lunch break and saw it was gone 😢
Dr Tabor is great! Go Niners!
Brilliant as always lol.
Congratulations!
Great content, although the constant camera flicking from one person to the other is disrupting my concentration ... Could it be reset so it's only on the person speaking at the time? - Or maybe this is just me??
not just you. I had to look at something else. Why not put the other man in a little box and have Tabor in the main screen, as we want to know his thoughts and not the other guy. Then can ignore the little screen man and focus on Tabor. thank you.
@goneprivate2714 Great idea about the little box! It does get annoying, flicking back and forth.
yeah I'm just listening to it, not watching.
A lot of what’s talked about early on in the meat of this discussion, reminds me of modern spirituality. There is a belief that the planets are also heavenly bodies with their own energies and purpose; the view goes beyond the idea of the mechanistic universe. Also, Paul’s description of the “heavens” reminds me of the idea of dimensions. The ascent to higher dimensions allows a being to remember/ more intensely experience the connection with god, source, creation, etc. The lower realms are cut off from the divine with the realms beneath us being fully disconnected, while we simply forget that connection to the divine on the earthly realm. There are beings on all of the levels, including angels and other exalted forms.
Side note: Jesus is considered to be an ascended being from the higher realms, who descended into the chaos of the 3rd dimension to help humans wake up to our own divinity. John 14:12 “Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am.” That idea is thought to mean that we can all ascend to the higher realms like Christ.
Congrats on your retirement!!
Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit)
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church?
The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again)
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant
(CSB) They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of the new order.
(ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.
(ESV+) but deal only with R5food and drink and R6various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.
(Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation.
(GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things.
(KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
(KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357
(NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.
(NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established.
(YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them .
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New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
What about cloud baptism? Who has a personal testimony?
Covenants were only to the House of Israel and those grafted in. No Christian in this present administration is under any 'covenant.'
Hey!!!! What happened to the Isaiah teaching chapter 40 to 66.... I was halfway thru and it stopped and disappeared
Yeah same here, it was good
The Jews do NOT say that Moses was the "last one". Deuteronomy 18:18 comes out and says that there will be another:
Deut. 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
The Jews know the scriptures better than you give them credit.
Really interesting
David wrote it this way... Adonai said to my Adonei... sit, here at my right hand, until I gather your enemies/adversaries under your feet...
I would love your opinion on brother Johnathan Kleck an his view on Genesis 1 vs 2 and his biblical view
Great background for discussing both the aerial tollhouses of (Russian) Orthodoxy as well as the magical exorcistic practices that eventually became the european grimoire/necromantic tradition.
Not only does, say, the Heptameron, acknowledge the existence of these beings and heavenly spheres, it proposes methods of compelling them to do your will. In the name of Christ, of course.
At 47:00 you ask the pivotal question - why the crucifixion? Paul couldn't quite figure it out, but a man named Rene Girard did and you can read a summary of that explanation in his book "I See Satan Fall Like Lightning". Explains everything!
We might not have money to buy a book, just put us out of our misery and give us in a pithy manner, Girard's conclusion.
@@whitemountainapache3297 I'll loan you a book from Amazon if you like.
"The simplest solution to this problem of violence for early human communities was to polarize blame and hostility onto one member of the group who would be killed and interpreted as the source of conflict and hostility within the group. The transition from the violent conflict of all-against-all would be transformed into the unifying and pacifying violence of all-except-one whose death would reconcile the community together. The victim who was persecuted as the source of disorder would then become venerated as the source of order and meaning for the community and seen as a god. This process of engendering and making possible human community through arbitrary victimization is called, within mimetic theory, the scapegoat mechanism." - Wiki
Jesus "reveals" the scapegoat mechanism through the Passion, which shows that God is on the side of the victim, thereby disarming the "principalities and powers" of their ability to unify society through violence.
@@ezekielsaltar4728 pretty dumb theory, nobody in academia gives a shit about it and rightly so.
Thank God someone figured out the true meaning of the crucifixion in such a timely manner! It would really be terrible for humanity to be the dark for another 2000 years.
Hats off to mister Gerard for finally getting Christianity right.
As for Paul’s “thorn in the flesh”, some modern medical professionals have put shingles as a quite likely condition, especially since the physical trauma Paul experienced (being thrown of a cliff and stoned comes to mind…) exacerbate shingles - quite literally the feeling of a thorn in the flesh.
My wife has fibromyalgia, which is very painful as well.
Roman sword tip ?
One thing I find very fascinating about Christianity is how so many people spend their time disproving it. Funny.
The interviewer interrupts and talks excessively at times which is a bit distracting. Good otherwise.
I recommend Teilhatd de Chardin and his book on the „Cosmic Christ“, where he talks about Christ Consciousness and the Christification not only of the whole human race but of the whole cosmos. The final aim of creation and matter is the conscious deification of of the physical plane in order to become the true image of God in Christ Jesus, the second Adam. 🙏
Even modern astrophysics maps layers from the earth out, from the sun out. Imagining a correlation between physical states and mental/conscious/spiritual states, is it necessary to look at ‘Paul’s cosmology’ as naive? (as an artist I tend to think of physical & imaginative/metaphorical experiences with such correlations (or objective correspondences, as t.s. Eliot said)
Hmm, about Jesus' divinity... How about:
"And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was."
John 17:5 ??
From the mouth of the Lord Jesus Himself.
And this:
"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;"
Hebrews 1:1-2
And lastly this:
"He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’? If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?” And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore."
Matthew 22:43-46
I appreciate the conversation, but I see some eisegesis.
He is wrong and you are right.
I always focus in on this. It's explicit
31:18 I find it interesting that saul/paul doesn't retain the powers Jesus said His aposltes received in Mark 3 : 14-15 (casting out demons). Maybe saul/paul was called up to heaven in Job chp 1. Most of 1 and 2 Corinthians is saul/paul boasting about winning over souls... does this have anything to do with the Habakkuk chp 2 (edited) verse he misinterpreted in Galatians 3? It further states: Woe to him who increases what is not his, how long?
The authority to command an evil spirit / demon may not also include authority over principalities at a higher level of authority operating outside one.
Yeah, I believe it's not the real Jesus Saul met in the wilderness, but just like Jesus said "if they say I'm in the wilderness, not go out there😊...because once He returns ALL will see me"
Jesus told us to be aware of Leven of the pharisee, Paul was a pharisee... Jesus told us about the raving wolf, Gen 49:27 we are told that this "ravenous wolf is of the Benjamin tribe...Saul was a Benjamin,
Rev 2:2 we are told the people of Ephesus (Asia) have found "those that called them self apostle" to be false and have rejected them...just like Saul is complaining to Tim: that ALL those in Asia have rejected him, mmmh its very clear Saul is the one Jesus tells us, not to follow 😉...
Try reading epistle of James with the perspective that he (James) is writing in direct opposition to saul/paul on many doctrines. To me, James goes as far as comparing saul/paul to the tongue (a boasting little member). Furthermore, the name Paul means 'small'.
@@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb There are few points they agree. They disagree on faith, boasting, self seeking, and partiality. Not to mention in Galatians 1 saul/paul outright declares "his gospel", not the apostles including those in Jerusalem. So they do not write the same things.
@@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb saul/paul was a herodian (checkout Robert Eisenman work) supporter in favor of Rome's occupation of Judea and pharisee religous power. Purportedly was scholar tought by Gamaliel, line of Hillel [Hele] teaching.... by those whom Jesus vehemently opposed and discredited as sons of the devil. Be that as it may, saul/paul was a double minded person as he himself explains in Rom 7 : 18-21 .... and called his own gospel a lie Rom 3 : 7 then misinterprets psalm 14, which is calling saul/paul out as a fool. *Partiality see Philip 2 : 28-29. Praise be to Yeshua and His everlasting righteousness.
It is amazing to me, as a follower of The Way, that brilliant minds and intellects like that of Tabor and Jordan Peterson, who profess they are NOT followers of Jesus Christ, can present a more compelling presentation of the reason TO follow the Christ Jesus than most Western church leaders. May be in part due to the audience each draws, but their is a part of us that is participating in an unseen dimension of this life that most cannot perceive, and that is of the spirit. And we each are developing and contributing to a being that will be revealed at the end of our individual material cycles on earth. Some to higher glory vision, others to lesser, more mundane or laborious conditions.
Thank you for the wisdom you pass on and I hope to meet you in the kingdom that is to come.
IT's not about "following" It is about putting the "blood of Jesus on the door of your person" He is our REDEEMER!! Our ETERNAL Final, and effecacious PASSOVER Begotten of God ! Sent to destroy the FEAR OF DEATH! That is the GREATEST gift amidst this insanity. where the Devil is flipping wrong and right.
You may want to do a "check-up on Peterson- Ironically his daughter gets it better than he, as his RC wife, seems to "keep him Catholic- not sure)
The way kept the Torah believed Jesus was just an exalted heavenly human being and messiah not god and he didn't die for your sins but he died to abolish the animal sacrifices and were vegetarians
I have it- You are a VEGAN, and the Christ could never have stooped too such a disgusting level as eating fish and honeycomb...PATHETIC- you NEED the Messiah to be a VEGAN? sorry- He enjoyed grilled fish AFTER he had risen, no doubt as further evidence that "I AM FLESH AND BLOOD , Now give me a meal" You see, Christ will NOT let himself become a mystical figure to all those that demand that he rise NOT as a flesh and blood man:
Luke 24:36-43
Some today claim Jesus did not eat meat, including fish. But notice this account. After Christ's resurrection, He appears in human form to the disciples (Luke 24:36). The disciples and others had gathered in a secure room, and He appears right in their midst, an act that shook them. They believe they are seeing a ghost, a spirit, but He assures them that He is indeed Christ. He lets them examine His hands and feet.
Still, they do not seem quite convinced, so He asks, “'Have you any food here?' So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb” (verses 41-42). Fish and sweets made from the labor of bees? Oh, the horror of it all!
Then what happened? “And He took it and ate it in their presence” (verse 43; emphasis added). This concise statement is a tough one to get around. The Greek word translated “broiled” here means simply “cooked.” Most translations use “broiled,” “baked,” or “cooked.” If anything, this verse might be a good argument against sushi! But there is no getting around what verse 43 states: The resurrected Christ ate the fish and the honeycomb right there
Bercause Prootestrants are enslaved to ALL books in the Canon, inclusing JAMES. so they have spent millions of hours "trying to make Romans three and James two "work".. I believe in the inspired Scripture but wil not idolize the "BIBLE" which is a litmus test for one proving his orthodox belief. I beieve God , the one who says "MY WAYS ARE NOT YOUR WAYS, and who hand picked a 'diablos' as one of the twelve. I guarentee you the other eleven , if they had found out earlier would have '" instructed Christ- THIS MUST NOT BE LORD"!! But God has His ways. Reconciling James to Paul, if one is satisfied with it, I am not!!
I can’t wait to play soccer again in my spiritual body! Run a sub 5.0 forty yard dash again too!
The holy writings of gnostic or the later hundreds of year that it took to make Christian Bible not just books but more what was in those books and how they were translated according to their theology as that developed
Has anyone else taken a moment to be gobsmacked by the idea that a man as ignorant of reality and captured by the strangest of ideas as Paul is, as described by Dr. Tabor, comes to have his ideas rule the world for two millennia? Incredible. I think we really should punctuate every hour of conversation by the recognition that Paul's ideas are, from our viewpoint, preposterous.
Food for thought. 🤔( Green Fire UK ) 🌈🦉
as i always point out, the native american prophet Wovoka, also had an ascent into heaven where the Dead Indians told him in no more than three years God would intervene in Human history, kick the white people out of north america, etc. time-life books said this is a continuing motif in human history, when societies are overwhelmed, a shamanic person emerges with the answers. wovoka had a predecessor named wodziwob, who went up on a mountain and had six visions. these native American prophets are a window into what really happened in ancient times.
saint paul apostle ❤👍
Someone upgraded their thumbnails!
James Tabor needs a better internet connection so I can hear all the details 😅 Learning alot from what I am hearing
I would speculate that the principality harassing him is stirring up the mobs against him and that angel was his thorn in the flesh.
Paul's thorn may have been nocturnal emission?
imagine that! hawking a book 😊
On the beach Jesus was preparing fish he already had. The eyes of John were not "holden" and he saw Jesus. I asked God why 152 fish. The bed of coals was for the destruction of "the great ones" of the Philistine Lords. You need to check a lexicon for the Dagon scene. 144 + 8 + 1. And you can also see the differences between the 2 floors and the slew. Sometimes you just need to ask.
My understanding of Paul is that be believes that we are body, soul, and spirit,
and when the body dies the spirit returns to God who gave it, and the soul of a
person who has received salvation through faith in Jesus experiences itself
in God's presence but not yet having received the glorified resurrected body
which they will receive during the resurrection Paul speaks about when Christ
returns and those who died in faith in Christ will receive and be instantly
"clothed" with their new glorified resurrected bodies, and those who have not
died will be instantly changed and be with the Lord in their new immortal
glorified resurrected bodies, and so all who have died IN Christ through
faith, love, and received salvation in his name, and those who are still alive
at Jesus return, will go to their heavenly home with the Lord.
In John 14:1-6 Jesus said to his disciples that he was returning to his
heavenly Father to prepare a mansion for them, and would return to take
them there so they would be with him forever. He told them he was the way,
the truth and the life. He said he was the only way to the Father ( the source
of eternal life, and of all truth of existence and life fully lived and experienced
in the eternal presence of the Father and in intimate relationship as sons of
the Father, born into the fullness of life as sons of God receiving full inheritance
from the Father of his true nature, into which they are reborn and received
through faith in Christ).
God bless you Dr. Tabor,. Thank you for sharing your understanding with us.
Please consider my understanding in all of this, and share your thoughts on it.
Amen&Amen! Very well said! ❤
So in the next life I get to be 6 ft two with hair and a life supply of steroids. A mansion over the hilltop plus a crown of gold.
I wonder if there's going to be pizza beer and hookah?
Really enjoyed the lecture. Thanks for your time.
concerning the powers who were tricked into killing Jesus.
Mark has a question for every christian out there: would you kill Barabbas or would you kill Jesus?
Barabbas. But only f he was guilty.
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So you don't kill Jesus, because... ?
Luke quotes Paul as follows:
Acts 20:28 - Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
God purchased the church with His own blood, eh? I thought it was Jesus? If Jesus is not divine then Paul has a theological problem and so does Luke, by extension.
The New Testament writers (with the possible exception of James, the brother of Jesus) understood that Jesus is divine.
My question about Paul's idea of the resurrection is this. The decomposed body or cremated remains scattered to the ocean or winds are not raised nor turned into an incorruptible body, right? Those who died are remembered by God and "given" "recreated" in a new incorruptible body like the one that Jesus has as the first fruit of all believers. At least that is the way i understand it from Professor Tabor's videos here. If that understanding is correct, then, why would it be any different for Jesus as a first fruit? Apparently, his bones should still be around somewhere, wherever it was that they moved the body for its final rest. Yes?
Good question. Wilson & Blackett published a book on this subject.
@@feistynag8200 Do you have a title?
For mainstream Christianity, the physical resurrection is important because it's a *sign*, of God's promise of resurrection, even if believer's bodies aren't "gathered back up" and reanimated.
It's theologically important because it demonstrates that A) the resurrected Jesus is the same guy and B) that it is a *physical* resurrection and not just a spiritual one. That's why the Synoptic gospels include the story of Thomas' doubt, and have Jesus eat with the Disciples.
Like Dr Tabor said, the largely Jewish influenced Christian communities didn't view the material world as evil, which competing Christian sects (Gnostics) absolutely did. Gnostics would suggest a spiritual rather than physical resurrection, and these are, in part, polemical responses.
Any particular reason it was 33 years ? Your retirement. Thanks 🙏
This sounds like a near death experience.
Sounds like narcissism with elements of psychosis
Lamentations chapter two. "The Lord has torn down his Altar, and abandoned his Sanctuary, THE LAW IS NO MORE". So Saint Paul had only one option , "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH".
Then explain Zechariah where God's LAW goes out from Zion
Or Malachi at the end where he tells ISRAEL TO FOLLOW THE LAW OF MOSES . BEFORE ELIJAH RETURNS. YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AMAZES ME.
TAKE YOUR JESUS GLASSES OFF
The entire Torah and the Prophets are about God's laws.ever read them all. If you did you had your Jesus glasses on you.
Your knowledge of Habakkuk Sucks. Also James the Brother of Jesus says you are wrong.
@@kennethbrownsher1264 What part of Lamentations chapter two "THE LAW IS NO MORE" do you not comprehend. This is a lawless age, but that opens to the opportunity for an AGE OF FAITH , so if the law was recovered, no Faith reasoning can apply to anyone's problems . But while the jury is out and the court is adjourned, then Faith applies in LIBERTY apart from the Law. You confuse the moral laws with judicial apparatus of the Temple Law. Do you think that people who lived before Israel had no moral sense ? Right and Wrong is defined in Genesis chapter two, THREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. So you see , no man is excused personally from the moral truth of being human beings, it is predestined to know right and wrong by time and experience, only a child is excused from knowing . So Jesus was Israel and no , I am sorry, but you are not Israel, and the man Jacob is still only a dead MUMMY in a tomb in Israel, he has not risen and so he is yet JACOB, and the promise of God to title Jacob as "ISRAEL" God never yet exercised while Jacob lived, the man was to God 'JACOB JACOB" when God called him, and God had not yet ever called him 'ISRAEL ' officially , so it is a Prophetic Title, but you see, JACOB is yet a dead MUMMY in a tomb, done so by Joseph who then expresses a FAITH about a future Resurrection of Jacob , the MUMMY had to rise up out of the tomb as a SIGN from God that begins a new age. But a Priest YESHUA is a SIGN OF A FUTURE dedicated to a special rank of a Priest who sets an example and rises early.
I don't have any problem seeing, you are the one who thinks Jacob rose from the dead and is now ISRAEL, but he is just a MUMMY, there is no ISRAEL yet, but Jesus is the MORNING STAR, a SIGN through a Nazirite Priest advertising a future disposition of the Court, as one example to prove God can actually raise the dead. If Jesus is not the Proof of LIFE by being the CRASH TEST DUMMY and showing it is all possible, then you are still dead in your sins and there is no hope for you. All you have is a collection of stories , not Proof of Life.
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since watching james ..my faith in jesus has been helped so much
Sure don't make him a god that's all
Time takes the mind further away from our source creator, devolving spirit in man increasing the ego and separation. Space occupies the emptiness in them that fail to understand.
What are you talking about?
We are in the realm of GOD called earth, impossible space is but mind fodder to clutter and hinder spiritual awakening. Truth will make you free
@Alister Said and what is the truth? Please help me to be set free.
All is mind GEN 1:27. The power to create is within each and everyone. As spirit in man, male and female, govern and focus thought. Spill not your cup, be grateful, love will make you free
7th heaven sounds like 7th chakra
Salvation is FAITH, HOPE, and LOVE in the BLOOD of CHRISIS!!! LLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀😃😄😁😆
Is the argument that paul is saying jesus is not God?
How annoying that the host keeps interrupting his guest! 😢
Earth is not a sphere! Good golly!
The Creator would not violate His own Law. The First-Third commandments are all about 1 Creator and to Him * only * we owe reverence and adoration. If The Messiah gets our reverence and adoration is because The Messiah is YHWH.
James Tabor is shooting from the hip again. Jesus, he claims, is not the "Logos" spoken about in the Gospel of John. My question then is, who is the Logos in 1 John 1:1?
1 Jn. 1:1 - That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
Who is the Logos of God in Revelation 19?
Rev. 19:13 - And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
John is the ONLY New Testament writer who calls Jesus "the Word". Furthermore, John the Baptist sure thought Jesus was the pre-existent One:
John 1:30 - This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John was born before Jesus. How was Jesus "before me"?
James Tabor is all wet when it comes to the New Testament. He doesn't know half of it and the half he does know, he doesn't believe. He's a fraud and I prove it over and over again.
"Who is the Logos of God in Revelation 19?" -- Who cares? Revelation does NOT belong in the Bible. It was just revenge fairy tale that someone wrote around 95 AD and then got included in the Bible against all better judgment. It is not a prediction of the future. Bart Ehrman has discussed this at length.
Hmmm, The Messiah was human born to a woman who was a descendant of David, but He was *not* of the seed of David because he was not of the seed of man.
I don't know about you, but I learned from O.T. these three: the mouth of the pit, the sides of the pit and the bottom. There is an antithesis of wisdom; and the floor of her house "inclineth" unto death. Right? The sliding board to Hell. This stands in contrast to the kingdom of God. The heaven, heavens, heaven of heaven and most high heaven are just one analogy of the pattern of all things. The birds, the mountains, the trees, many things align with the pattern of all things. Of course! Because the tabernacle pattern was received from God. Whenever you see references to the pattern, the word cluster appears. If the language breaks away, it probably isn't breathed by God who makes no mistakes. I've no doubt that God revealed himself in earlier times than Abraham. At Babel it would seem that men had determined how to acquire the positions and gifts that bring power. However, the warning of "Beware lest ye fall" is to be understood. And let us not forget what redefining the meaning of words can do. Sometimes Babel gave levels of understanding to a word, but when no means yes, there are problems. I have found everything necessary in the Word. It is imperative to read "as if" you believe. If you do that you are "almost" there. Instead of losing faith the result can be deeper faith. I wish I could learn every day. Call me crazy, but 3 shells with the electon drawn by cords of love to a proton is remarkable in my mind. But the intellectuals immediately want to say that it must be a mistake. Every time a teacher tells you that there must be a mistake, there is something wonderful to learn.
Job gives us strata of the sky like the pattern of all things. Lightning comes from the snow clouds and this is the language of the most high God. These are word cluster ideas allowing you to understand the person and power of God. Things like Frost, hail, sparks of fire, lightning and, most important, the still small voice. I'm sure you understand the meanings behind clothing--things like that are important. It is all in the word of God. Above all we should seek the face of God. Grace will enable us to love more with each court. 🚚 ❤ sending love!
There are not 7 level, but you could say 7 steps
I wonder if it will be possible to map where the idea that the heaven is made up of 7 or 9 levels/heavens originate from. sounds like an PhD thesis to me.
It’s from Dante’s Divine Comedy.......
@@Bravo-Too-Much the idea of heavens (7, 9) is rather common than not, look up in any history of religion introductory books
This idea originates from Chaldean/Babylonian Astrology. Each "Heaven" is presided over by a moving celestial body. The differences in numbering come down to whether or not you're counting the "sub-lunary realm" and the "out of bounds" area beyond Saturn.
I hold that the initial Creation was good... it was established to be a forever thing... What happened? The transgression(s)... now, that which was meant to bless, would be cursed... now was 'death' introduced... the 'natural' was now 'out of order'... there were some exceptions... Enoch... Noah... Job... just to mention a few... The 'destruction of all flesh on the land' (fish were not affected... 'Dagon... Dagon... Dagon' - in Ben Stein's 'Bueller's voice) and the 'reorganization of the 'land' while it is submerged... I hold that a way of Salvation was in place for those who would fall... 'Before the foundations of the earth were laid - (or planned)'. Since there is now way for the present earth to be 'redeemed', a new heaven (huh? what was up with the old one?) and a new earth... and the New Jerusalem (City of YHWH), too! No sun, for the Light (Presence of the Most High in the midst of His City) will provide the light... No more night - no need for a mood or stars... Day... and now since 'there is no more time', for the rest of (for resurrected/transformed humans - not all who are now present were participants in the 1st Resurrection - I hold that not all who came forth during the 2nd resurrection were cast into the Lake of Fire (lake of/for destruction) - and not all that were born during the 1000 year reign of The Son of David (over the land of Israel) were killed during the final release of Hasatan - at the end of the thousand years... for the final testing of (the un-resurrected) people and the final judgement of YHWH against Hasatan (and his destruction by YHWH). For the old, there was no 'renewal'... therefore the New.
Once you brought up the heliocentric model with all the nonsensical spinning balls hurtling through space (a place none of us will ever go to) I shut it down.
The interviewer would be doing his show a service by talking less.
The Salvation Paul was waiting for was a new spiritual body. Jesus was not physically resurrected as "flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God". Jesus had a spiritual body. Paul was waiting for this hope..." we shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed. The last trumpet will sound and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air". Paul never mentioned salvation being about going to heaven as a spirit and hell being eternal torment.
So we are not spirit? We are only flesh? So when we die It s the end? We sleep waiting for the salvation in a spiritual body??? And the Saints???
Tell that to Thomas, fist deep in Jesus' abdomen after eating a meal the man cooked for him.
Interviewer interrupts every 2 seconds.
Prof. Tabor thank You for this uplod ...🙏👍.
my questions are;
first:
is there any historical grounding when Paul say ; i recieved this Gospel from Jesus himself?..
is just a "literary" things?
second
is there any (authoritative, textual) source of James (the brother of Jesus) that counters what Paul teaching?..
exactly in this "salvation" thing??..
some kind of ebionite written documents??..
if there are documents of this kind, which party have legalistic (tradisional) approach and which more revolusional, phylosopical. one ?
can there be a theological truth based only from (mythical, philosophical) literary truth but without some support of historical truth??..
I think only man in your caliber is able to investigate this sort of thing.....
Thank You..🙏🙏🙏
Beam me up Scottie
What is called gnostic by the haters but considered Paul the only real apostle .
Check out the history of the lost language of Hebrew .Google it.put that in context
Test yourself in the world created in 'Frame 39' by Rick Shands, a novel about belief and knowledge, believing and knowing, and the nature of spiritual spaces and places, spanning from Cordoba to Kyoto.
This is how completely clueless this guy is. He said, "I don't believe Jesus is God even in John." (at the 1:06:00 mark)
John 17:5 - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
It's this "round trip idea".
Seriously, is Bart Ehrman that bad? These jokers seem like birds of a feather.
Tabor can't use scripture to explain scripture. For example the Old Testament prophesied what New Testament witnesses saw that affirmed Christs body did not see corruption. He is not taking things like that into consideration, why ? - can't he see......
Adam and Eve did not want eternal life they wanted * knowledge * otherwise they would have eaten from the tree of life - also in The Garden Eden (and later guarded so that sinfulness did not become eternal) - and not from the tree of knowledge.
If God as Creator were as competent as characterized, people would not be sinners and would have no need of salvation. You cannot blame the flaws of creation upon the created.
Not so
God created man with free will to make his own choices. Only in free will can love be
truly expressed and received and appreciated and exist as part of creation. The Bible
teaches that we are all made a New Creation in Christ through faith and are then able to
RE-ENTER the EXPERIENCE OF GOD'S LOVE through a Spiritual rebirth INTO the
unconditional love of God wherein we can be made a new creation in that love through
faith, in the rebirth experience of the Cross of Jesus by which we die to our sinful
nature acquired through the fallen ego, and are reborn into the perfect unconditional
love of God though and in relationship with His Holy Spirit of perfect love.
I don't have time right now to list all the Bible verses. One is 1John 4:7-19 and
John 17:22.23.26
God bless you.
Paul was one of the greatest man of men kind. His message of salvation and how to live in this planet is in 1, Corinthians 13 that is one of the most powerful message to humanity.
read john 1.1 and john 1.14 JESUS is God and exist allways.
This is a little far out but Paul can meet personally and physically with Jesus to be taught by Jesus. Jesus has that capacity to appear in ‘physical’ form which is his spirit somewhat materialized. This is Jesus in his resurrection body which he can chose to appear in physical form.
Are you drunk?
There’s only one logos,and he was never flesh
It had to be 33 yrs. Hmmmm
Paul? Who needs him. P-tui
Have you ever been saved before?
You do not know that early C=hristians were slain when forced to bow to the knee and give homage to the Emporer?? BECAUSE THE MAGICAL WORD THEY WOULD NOT SAY- WAS KURIOUS? So you are wrong that Christians thought that Kurios had no special meaning- It meant LORD, and that there is only one!! JESUS CHRIST.
Then Jesus shows us the way to glorification through obedience suffering!
Suffering has no meaning
@@kennethbrownsher1264 It does when Satan is the Principality of earth and demands a Ritual Blood Sacrifice to free humanity and return the Birthright God had given to Adam, which he lost through disobedience, to The Son of Man through the Royal House of David and the Only Begotten Son of God, making Jesus King of Heaven and King of Earth!
@@leighanneparis6236 Satan is an Agent of God. Read Job! He is the great Accuser, nothing more. GOD SAYS HE MAKES BOTH GOOD AND EVIL. HUMAN SACRIFICE IS AN ABOMINATION TO THE 1 GOD OF ISRAEL
You have to understand that the word in the beginning was THE EXPRESSION OF ELOHIM and not another God. The first Adam was from the earth but the second Adam was from Heaven ( God in flesh or Word became flesh) Jesus was entirely human as a man but as God manifest in flesh as a man he was also divine by the Spirit in him and not by the flesh.The Spirit it's the Father in him who perform all the miracles Jesus as a simple man cannot do this.
Nobody finds it odd that this "gospel" that "Yeshua" gave to Paul was so different than The Gospel that was taught to the actual Twelve Apostles by Yeshua and that Paul's "Yeshua" didn't go to the actual Twelve Apostles and let them know that The Gospel was being changed ???? If you read Matthew 24:24-26 and Acts 3:21 you'd see that it wasn't Yeshua on the road to Damascus , it was the same FALSE CHRIST that Yeshua said would come , claiming to be Him and not to believe him
PAUL INVENTED CHRISTIANITY. THE REAL CHURCH WAS THE CHURCH IN JERUSALEM. WITH THE DEATH OF JAMES ,THE BROTHER OF JESUS. PAUL TOOK HIS VIEWS TO THE GENTILE WORLD. A WORLD USE TO MAN/GODS.
Korey O’Neal
There were two ministries; one to Jews and one to Gentiles (Galatians 2:7-10). Paul and his disciples (Acts 9:25) ministry was to the Gentiles (Romans 11:13, 2 Timothy 4:17). Jesus is universal to both Judaism and Christianity (Romans 9:5, Isaiah 2:4, Galatians 3:28).
Christianity is the gospel Paul received from Jesus (Galatians 1: 11-12) during Paul’s ascension to Heaven (2 Corinthians 12:1-7).
Paul was prophesied in a text found in the Dead Sea Scrolls (Testament of Benjamin Chapter 11).
@@johnmann8659 No Judaism has nothing to do with Jesus.
@@kennethbrownsher1264 It does. The Messiah comes twice. One figure, two arrivals.
Rabbi Alexandri explains: if the Jewish people merit redemption, the Messiah will come on the clouds of Heaven. If the Jewish people do not merit redemption, the Messiah will come lowly and riding upon a donkey. (Sanhedrin 98A - Talmud)
Can there be a contradiction between two prophets? Is not every word of the Bible true?
The Messiah comes once upon a donkey (Zechariah 9:9, John 12:14-15) to provide atonement for a sinful generation (Ezekiel 16:59-63).
And once via the clouds (Daniel 7:13, Matthew 26:64 -> Luke 21:23-27).
The righteous generation is the end times generation (Deuteronomy 4:30-31, Hosea 3:5).
@@johnmann8659 God tells us He is our Only Savior
When you see Yerushalayim with invader's gather against Her and invading.
Than Yahusha will return.
But He will have the Name of Yahuah.
He was the Malach of Yahuah. Before He came down as Yahusha.
But now there will be echad Yahuah.
And Yahuah shall be King over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Yahuah, and his name echad. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:9 את CEPHER
Blessed be he that comes in the name of Yahuah: we have blessed you out of the house of Yahuah. TEHILLIYM (PSALMS) 118:26 את CEPHER
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and Amein I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of Yahuah. LUQAS (LUKE) 13:35 את CEPHER
BEHOLD, the day of Yahuah comes, and your spoil shall be divided in the midst of you. For I will gather all nations against Yerushalayim to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall Yahuah go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:1-3 את CEPHER
Then shall Yahuah go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Yerushalayim on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the Negev. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:3-4 את CEPHER
Which also said, Ye men of Galiyl, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Yahusha, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Then returned they unto Yerushalayim from the Mount called Olivet, which is from Yerushalayim a Shabbath day's journey. MA'ASIYM (ACTS) 1:11-12 את CEPHER
In that day shall Yahuah defend the inhabitants of Yerushalayim; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as Daviyd; and the house of Daviyd shall be as Elohiym, as the angel of Yahuah before them. And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Yerushalayim. And I will pour upon the house of Daviyd, and upon the inhabitants of Yerushalayim, the Ruach Chen V’TACHANUNIYM: and they shall look upon me את whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his yachiyd, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Yerushalayim, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddo. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 12:8-11 את CEPHER
And Yahuah shall be King over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Yahuah, and his name one. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:9 את CEPHER
I have glorified you on the earth: I have finished the work which you gave me to do. And now, O Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was. את I have manifested your name unto the men which you gave me out of the world: yours they were, and you gave them me; and they have guarded your word. YOCHANON (JOHN) 17:4-6 את CEPHER
And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Yashar'el, and that I am Yahuah Elohaykem, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Ruach upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my Ruach. And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of Yahuah come. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of Yahuah shall be delivered: for in Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim shall be deliverance, as Yahuah has said, and in the remnant whom Yahuah shall call. YO'EL (JOEL) 2:27-32 את CEPHER
The Arm of the Yahuah
is the Malach of Yahuah.
He is Isayahu 53.
WHO has believed our report? and to whom is the arm of Yahuah revealed? YESHA'YAHU (ISAIAH) 53:1 את CEPHER
Now therefore, what have I here, says Yahuah, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, says Yahuah; and my name continually every day is blasphemed. Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that speaks: behold, it is I. How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that brings the Besorah, that publishes peace; that brings good news of good, that publishes yeshu`ah; that says unto Tsiyon, Your Elohiym reigns! Your watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when Yahuah shall bring again Tsiyon. Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Yerushalayim: for Yahuah has comforted his people, he has redeemed Yerushalayim. Yahuah has made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see את the yeshu`ah of our Elohiym. YESHA'YAHU (ISAIAH) 52:5-10 את CEPHER