Paul's View of the Resurrection (Paul Vs James & Peter) | Dr. James D. Tabor
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What was Paul's view of the resurrection? Was it the same as the views of James, John, Peter and others before him? Find out the answers with Professor Emeritus James D. Tabor!
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Dr. James Tabor is a very good scholar. Keep up the good work Dr. Tabor.
❤ I love his renditions and interpretation of the scriptures ! Wow ❤
21:00 well, "buried" could easily mean just in a mass grave, like any crucifixion victim, as Paulogia has been saying on his channel, and if so, then Paul doesn't mention the tomb, empty or not.
However, I don't mean to nitpick, this is very interesting as usual, and a nice little addition to the death and resurrection series that Dr Tabor has been doing on his channel.
I trust James more than Paul
I see what you did there
It's funny cuz both the host and Dr. Tabor have basically the same name 🤭
James’ name was actually Jacob and Jesus’ name was actually Joshua. That alone should tell you Christians don’t care to know their own religion beyond what they find worldly useful… so can the crazy ones talk with Jesus NOW like they claim.
Thanks for the opinion. Fascinating.....
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Thank you Jacob and Dr Tabor for an excellent, enlightening presentation. I love the analysis of what the resurrection means.
That being said it's been around 1970 years since Paul first wrote. Let's not count on a new Earth, let's start taking better care of the one we got!
For the life of me I do not understand why people give Paul the benefit of the doubt -- on anything. I legitimately get the impression that you have to grow up in the church being indoctrinated about how great Paul is for him to seem like anything but a liar, a hypocrite, a pro-Roman sycophant, and an egomaniac. But most importantly, to think that torah-adherent messianic Jews like James the Just would share ANYTHING in common with Paul is silly on its face.
@@Stupidityindex That was pretty insightful! You threw in some dog legs there, especially at the end but yes, very good thoughts here.
Authentic, ancient understanding of resurrection!
Another fascinating and informative interview.
Wow. Bombshell findings by Tabor 💣 . Especially when he starts talking about 2nd Peter.
great interview.
Thanks!
Mystical JC! No need for a historical one…
Greetings from Ireland. Brought up as a Catholic and atheist for most of my life, what amazes me is how this type of discussion never takes place between believers even nowadays. My mother was a devout Catholic but she - like the majority of Catholics - never even opened the bible to read and think about what it said. She just accepted the priests readings at mass. So thank you History Valley and Dr Tabor for another fascinating discussion.
I must admire your faith in atheism, is faar more greater than Abraham's faith
I was raised Catholic, too. When I was thirteen I read Asimov's Astronomy book and it all came crashing down.
@@sebolddaniel I was a fan of Asimovs stories as a teenager also. Fantastic imagination.
@@bludgeoncorpinc.6768 I prefer his non-fiction, his books The Elements and Astronomy. I was always treated like a dummy in school by the nuns until I started quoting Asimov's non fiction and that Jesus must have taken his apostles out in the desert, pointed to the half a trillion stars in Andromeda and all the lost souls there.
Catholic and atheist....? SMH
Thank you very much for caring about the subject...my take from your work is no corpses are needed to complete the gospel theories....at least i hope...and to those following this link, please hit me up for more discussion...I love the subject and will be a kind and decent person to talk with.
I also say:
Trust know one
Be-leave nothing
Expect the worst
And be grateful
Pretty sad state of mind.
@@michaelsmith9453 thank You for noticing
Wait...If the Jews believed in an actual bodily resurrection and Paul never met Jesus he wouldn't know what Jesus looked like. Wouldn't an obvious question from someone who knew Jesus and doubted Paul be, "Oh yeah, what did he look like?"
Jacob i demand that you clap along with the music.
I really like James Tabor
It would be wild if Paul was actually a Greek and not Jewish and was preaching the gospel based on Greek beliefs.
Question: what is the meaning of the appearance to two disceples on the way to Emmaus? Why don't they recognize him? Doesn't that mean that he was not "wearing" his terrestrial body anymore, and appeared under a different guise? And what is the theological conclusion/hypothesis that should be drawn from it?
Excellent commentary and instruction by Dr. James Tabor on what resurrection meant for Jesus’ body! Very convincing!
Paul was Gnostic
Wow, some people are still stuck in the Iron Age. Illiterate peasants were the first customers. Then many followed. Sad.
A great scholar
Dr. Tabor always gives great scholarship! Ironic, not much ever on Joseph Smith's "revelation" from Maroni; very much on what Paul said via his "revelation". Don't believe either one, but it's like Paul's was true because it's Christian and Mormonism isn't??
The Gospel of Barnabas,
Chapter 215:
When the soldiers with Judas drew near to the place where Jesus was, Jesus heard the approach of many people, wherefore in fear he withdrew into the house. And the eleven were sleeping.
Then God, seeing the danger of his servant, commanded Gabriel, Michael, Rafael, and Uriel, his ministers, to take Jesus out of the world.
The holy angels came and took Jesus out by the window that looketh toward the South. They bare him and placed him in the third heaven in the company of angels blessing God for evermore.
Chapter 216
Judas entered impetuously before all into the chamber whence Jesus had been taken up. And the disciples were sleeping. Whereupon the wonderful God acted wonderfully, insomuch that Judas was so changed in speech and in face to be like Jesus that we believed him to be Jesus. And he, having awakened us, was seeking where the Master was. Whereupon we marvelled, and answered: 'Thou, Lord, art our master; hast thou now forgotten us?'
And he, smiling, said: 'Now are ye foolish, that know not me to be Judas Iscariot!'
And as he was saying this the soldiery entered, and laid their hands upon Judas, because he was in every way like to Jesus.
We having heard Judas' saying, and seeing the multitude of soldiers, fled as beside ourselves.
And John, who was wrapped in a linen cloth, awoke and fled, and when a soldier seized him by the linen cloth he left the linen cloth and fled naked. For God heard the prayer of Jesus, and saved the eleven from evil. sacred-texts.com/isl/gbar/gbar215.htm
God sent down The Holy Scripture and prophets to deliver his message of theaching monotheism. And God did not create religions (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc.) but man did. What is commanded is to only serve God of Abraham , God of Israel/jacob god The creator and do good, to live in harmony with humans and the environment. Therefore, God says (Quran 2:62) which means that he (God) does not really care about the religion of man as long as they Only serve the one true God and later we will face him on the day of judgement and we will be questioned responsible for our actions. Verily, those who believe, the Jews, the Christians and the Sabians, whoever (among them) believes in God and the Last Day, and does good deeds, they will have their reward from their Lord. there is no fear in them, and they do not grieve.(Al-Quran 2:62)
If I can ask, what are the thoughts on old souls. Because I’m sure we’ve all met some.
So, Paul has a "vision" completely different from all the other re Jesus' resurrection body. I've wondered, Jesus said how all eyes would see him upon his parousia / return. How is it Paul was able to bypass that entire scenario and be believed at all? Great job, as usual. Thanks.
There's several parallels in Paul's view with other eastern religions like Hinduism and Buddhist There's also some influence from the sol invictus cult as well as Egyptian concepts...
often our knowledge is fragmented and cannot confirm in the normal way we confirm and is ambiguous
Every grifting self appointed preacher nowadays says that they have seen the lord , whats the difference ?
Paul would've been in Jerusalem learning from Gamaliel when Jesus Christ road in to town,think about that timing is accurate, isn't it?
Transformation of the LIVING.
Resurrection of THE DEAD.
Resesitation of the DEAD who do not receive a glorified body, but have been miraculously brought back to life (only to experience death again).
*resuscitation, right?
Yup! Great points!
There is a correlation of dimensions that applies here.
As mammals which don’t have wings or gills move basically in 2 dimensions, it is hard to understand and relate to beings which move in 3 dimensions all their lives.
They are all MATERIAL beings.
“ the Holy Spirit appeared as a Dove”
Not a plume of smoke or a transparent shape, or a ball of energy.
But a BEING which lives in an extra dimension that MOST people have trouble relating to
This detail about the gospel of Peter is very interesting. It sounds as if Peter originally had a report similar to the later ending of John, with the fishing miracle by which they recognized Jesus. And that reminds me of a theory I once heard that the fishing miracle scene in Luke (5) originall also was a post-resurrection scene. This makes a lot of sense, because why would Peter react this odd way ("Depart from me, Lord! For I am a sinful man!") just because he had slightly doubted Jesus' power at a moment he didn't even know him yet? It makes much more sense to think that this reaction was due to him having denied Jesus at his trial. Only when the later legendary accounts of sightings of the resurrected Jesus in Jerusalem were added to the text, this passage was moved to a different place.
All in all, it seems that the oldest account of the risen Jesus appearing to his disciples was while fishing in the Galilee. They had given up all messianic hope and had returned to their old place of life and work, when an unexpected experience (of whatever nature) convinced them that Jesus was still alive.
@judgeaileencannon9607
The voices in your head speak
My reading of John 21 is that Judas has a new 'Lord', and they go around their usual work, visit a bakery to pick up their share of bread, next some fishermen to pick up their share of fish, and finally
7 disciples fishing. Judas introduce the Lord to them. They did not recognize him.
John 11:25-26
New King James Version
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. 26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
It would carry a lot more weight, maybe, if Elvis were seen in Memphis, Egypt
Why no mention of Paul’s primary seed analogy?
Is the Gospel of Peter a reliable source?
Would a bodily resurrection actually be rescusitation?
Where is MARY Magdelene’s testimony in the Gospel of Mary?
Tabor poses two possibilities for Resurrection:
- View 1: Corpse gets up from the grave, in the manner of Lazarus, and walks around, eats, drinks, mixes with his people just like before dying.
- View 2: 'Resurrection is the transformation' from the "flesh" to the "immortal." This is resurrection for Paul. Immortal, glorious and powerful... apotheosis. The dead will be 'pneuma,' a new kind of body.
Luke posses the dilemma this way:
- A woman with 7 husbands, all of whom kept dying, in the afterlife, whose wife will she be? Jesus replies, "God is the God of the living." Angels don't marry or die.
Of course, the answer is simpler than ALL that. These possibilities ought to remind us of the Medieval arguments about 'how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?' The plain fact is that, 'resurrection' is not possible.
Historicity demands that we keep it real. Thus, Acts 9.4 is either a hallucination or a lie. If it is a lie, it comes from 'the liar' of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The point we should really be asking is this: Why is the Acts lying at 9.4? What possibly could be the motive? Sure, the Christ is being transformed into a Greco-Roman sky god. But is there another reason?
where does Jehovah`s Witnesses get the idea that humans will be ressurected in a body back to earth ??
where is The Apostle Paul getting his information from ????
My question is if God what was always a trinity
What happens to Paul who didn't teach the trinity?
Why didn't he teach this and he saw the resurrected Jesus according to Christians.
The trinity concept is a carry over from the Egyptian religion. The people writing didn't live in a vacuum and just like today there were many conflicting perspectives on life/death and what happens after; along with what it all means. In some ways we are much worse off today because we don't have any exposure to the counter arguments and perspectives.
This part of the story is purely esoteric.
Paul is saying what is necessary for God believing faith, James is saying what is necessary for men to see your Faith by your works
They both said and wrote what was necessary for their audience,, the corinthians where far different than than the Jews living in jerusalem.
Paul message was the risen Christ. When you read James it’s different.
No. James says "justified by works"
Paul absolutely, IMO also saw Him during the earthly ministry.
There is zero evidence for that. But it's not impossible, of course. It's certainly fair to ask that if Paul "saw" Jesus in some kind of resurrected body, yet had never laid eyes on him during his actual life, how the hell did he know that he was seeing Jesus? Now of course, people have been seeing Jesus and the virgin Mary for two thousand years yet none of these people know what the hell Jesus or Mary actually looked like. People probably see the image of Mary and Jesus that are in movies and artwork. The Jesus that looks like he belongs on the cover of a romance novel. But Paul would have had no image of Jesus to base any "appearance" on, so it's an interesting question.
How does Saul / Paul give a first-hand witness account that is not based on supernatural woo-woo?
Is James Tabor an apologist?
There now exists two distinctly opposing understandings of biblical Creation. No others are possible. The universe contains only 2 things that everything can be derived from, material nature and spiritual nature. No other interpretations are possible but these two
RES-SURECT-ION = Leaving Realms of COMMERCE of LORD-MONEY, the CONTRACT-WORLD,
however, strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto Life (from DEAD-AT-SEA), and few there be that find it ...
Mat 28:2
- an earthquake came
- a angel descended from heaven, rolled the tomb seal and was sitting on the seal stone.
But nowhere does it say the angel restored jesus body and Jesus walked out.
Amd the amgel became very bright and scared the guards away, remember the Mary's are there waiting, they see an angel come down, the tomb opens, the guards run away, they are infirmed he is risen and on his way to galilee. It does not say anywhere the angel went into the cave, waved a magic wand over Jesus, he stood up and began walking down the road to the galilee.
"He is risen, come see the place that he lied"
"He goes before you in galilee
So what we take from Matthew 27 is that Jesus died and gave up his spirit, now angels came to announce the body is converted to something invisible, and then
The women are running back to town to get Peter and they find Jesus walking some more to galilee now with feet.
So spirit goes up, body disappears, body and spirit reappear somewhere else.
Your kingdom come. Your will be done. On Earth as it is in Heaven. (Mat 6:8) I would always like a second chance to see Earth as a new clean creation.
I have no desire to be judging angels but sweet air and peace-and a hot bath- ahhh lovely. Great topic for study. 🛀
Israel
Interesting and knowledgeable scholar. Unfortunately went downhill when he went chasing after online fame, no matter if he had to sell out to mythvisioners and other clickbait types.
The other Apostles are not Paul's "opponents". They are brothers in Christ and they loved each other.
The Gospels as well as Paul's letters are reliable and in agreement with each other. There is no disagreement or conflict. Dr. Tabor may think they conflict, but I don't see it that way. I think if that is what he believes that he is mistaken. We are speaking of spiritual things which none of us really understands, as far as resurrected bodies and how God made them. We just don't know.
Jesus says in John 20:17 not to touch him because he has not yet ascended to His Father. Why? We can only speculate. But, doesn't His glorified body have the crucifixion marks, the wholes in his hands and feet and the thorn mark on His head? The scripture says he ate some fish with Peter after He was resurrected. Can a glorified body do that or is there a stage or stages of the resurrected body being transformed into the eternal one? I don't know.
I don't see "two" different ideas of the resurrection, the Gospels and what Paul says. What I see is humans not understanding how God has made all of this and the processes He has made to accomplish being raised from the dead and transformed into an indestructible body. But, hey, knock yourself out in coming up with ideas that conflict with what God has created.
I suspect that the Father and Jesus are amused as us earthlings. :) Trying to poke holes in the Gospels and Paul's writings and thinking you have found some credible discrepancies. Yeah, right.
Isn't the truth that you don't believe any of it? Isn't that the bottom line?
Dr. Talbor is reading Dr. Carrier.
God sees your Faith but men can't see your Faith, they can only see your works
Laywoman here, but the way Paul présent "the momentum" was understood, for me, like in Spirit meeting, not like the Disciples...Didi putting the fingers on the side man...c'mon
20:15
What happen to Lazarus is not resurrection.
An empty tomb proves nothing. The transfiguration is an example of transformation. Two disciples walked with Jesus after his death and didn't recognize him but their hearts did burn. Christ not Jesus as a person is the resurrection.
"That the Torah and all its interpretation is all passing away" ... That would make him an absolute false prophet according to Deuteronomy 13 from the mouth of HaShem himself.
"Everything I am commanding you, you are to take care to do. Do not add to it or subtract from it."
"I" being God the father himself.
Jesus himself never nullifies or hints that the Torah will pass away... He came to fulfill the Torah not to abolish it.
Absolutely! Yeshua was a Torah-observant Torah-teaching Rabbi!
God made Adam in His Image and BRIDES are never male. If this offends you, you are defiled with women.
God Alone made "Adam, all alone."
The Son is The Father also; Our Father; Daddy is The Logos Word Made Flesh in his Son; The Word is "Daddy!"
I've never heard this before, bught... since 1/3rd didn't rebel, but 1/3rd did rebel...
Q: are humans the 1/3rd that flinched? Is that the hidden factor? The Prodigal Son makes sense now, to me.
19:11
Discovery: Biblical creation is not the creation of a material universe. The things of creation are metaphors for spiritual nature not material nature. Over time and experience Old Seers have found spiritual interpretations to be correct. Material creation is incorrect.
I don’t think that is an honest account of supposed differences between Jesus’s resurrection body in the gospels vs. Paul’s account. In the gospels Jesus can appear and disappear at will. He can also show is wounds and eat if he chooses. It is not true to say it was just a flesh and blood body. Paul specifically says that we will have a glorious body like Jesus’s.
The point is is that with the Gospels, written decades after Paul’s writing, we have the apologetic that the old body of Jesus was up walking around instead of the soul getting NEW “clothes”.
@@humblethinker8493that’s the point I’m refuting.
@@olliew7225 you know ‘showing his wounds’ and ‘eating fish’ are just stories right? They made up their apologetics as they went along in response to whatever arguments they were hearing. In this case, Docetism.
@@humblethinker8493
Speaking of fiction
@@bobgriffith1810 exactly
Dr Tabor is missing out the point that Apostle Paul was a pharisee and these guys actually believed in physical resurrection of the body from the dead,, so don't know where is he getting the idea that Paul didn't believed in that thing, its clear from book of Genisis that angels who appeared to Abraham did eat physical food and in its said Psalm 78:25 "Man ate of the bread of the angels; he sent them food in abundance." seems like that angels do eat and drink and have there own heavenly menu's for food according to bible, the whole idea of so called "spirit beings" floating in air and have no physical features is all Greek thinking and has nothing to do with Jewish thinking, and when you trying to explain Jewish ideology with Greek mindset its going to be catastrophic .
Said like one who believes in the univocality of scripture.
@@humblethinker8493 what are you trying to say, ?
Physical resurrection of the dead/ all humans in the future is not the same as dying and resurrectimg after 3 days.
@@germanboy14 my dear friend we all who believe will receive same body as Jesus has when God raised Him from the dead.
Jesus came to the earth as the promised Messiah to the Nation of Israel, but after the resurrection he became the savior to the gentiles and I Israel.
That is the view of Paul who hijacked Jesus for Rome from James. Then slowly added in greek mythology with each iteration of Marks story. The adding of greek mythology made the story familiar to Romans and the like at the time. This is why it took off in Rome.
@@of9490 Greek mythology? Absolutely ridiculous, what must I do to be saved?
@@of9490 it's not a view, it's what happened. So okay, let's assume you're right, what must I do to be saved? What do you do specifically, for you to be a Christian, I'll stick with the Gospel of the Grace of God 🙏
@@of9490 you know nothing, James and his little Jewish church was destroyed with the rest of Jerusalem. Without Paul that would've been the extent of it. No Paul, no Christianity. I'm a true believer in the Gospel of the Grace of God 🙏 the only Gospel 🙏 I suggest you repent and believe the gospel 🙏
Paul is the apostle to the gentiles and I am a gentile and a true believer
It does not matter, not one Whit whether somebody takes the time to describe what Christ look like in the vision. Just because somebody didn't describe it the way this man on this video thinks that they should have, does not displace the reality of it. I'm not a big fan of Paul. But this man on this video has an unrealistic expectation that everybody should do things the way he expects of them, lest they be suspect not only is that an unreasonable expectation, that's Ludacris in the extreme. I do like his year of 30 ad for the crucifixion of Christ. That is exactly the year he would have turned 34 about 10 days to two weeks before his actual birthdate in 4 BC.
Call does go out of his way to explain why he can't describe what he saw. He wouldn't have a clue whether or not the body appeared to be corporeal or not. As long as it was a physical body, it should have appeared to him to have been a corporeal body. He is over explaining, which leads me to believe that maybe he hasn't quite learned, as yet, how to say a simple truth. It is other problem may have been that having never seen Christ, maybe he never actually knew what he looked like.
Jesus went to heaven 40 days after his death. He wasnt in his final state yet.
...I am puzzled, Dr. Tabor why you give so much weight to Late-Comer(*) Paul's 'unambiguous statement(s)' on having not just "...Seen the Lord...", but then turned the One-Up's-manship to "11" by claiming he got a Christ-Guided VIP Tour of Heaven.
Being half-a-decade "Late to the Parade" Paul (nee Saul of Tarsus) would know he'd have to "Run Like Hell" to get to the FRONT of that parade and then convince the rest that He was/is their "LEADER"...
(*) Xtian-Persecutor Paul presumably continued that work in the 5 -6 Years between Jesus' execution, & Paul' "Road to Damascus" epiphany.
Paul is a true Prophet, but he wouldn't allow anyone to call him that
What does it matter what everybody believes about the resurrection. If you have doubts then you are not a true believer period. We are commanded to just get on utube and bring up things that do not profit anyone. You mock and can't doubt and it "divides" people. Most people have little to no spiritual understanding and most people will never come to God by faith. Believers don't have to have proof or evidence like the world does because believers are miracles of God's grace, a super natural result of a person coming to God by humbly submitted to hom and by simple faith or born into the kingdom of God. Followers are to preach and witness to a lost and dying world not bringing unbelievers in to allow them what they think. You cannot ever convince 0eople to trust Christ because that is the work of his Holy Spirit. Salvation is all of God and we are just instruments of his will and ways to bring people to Him. All you are doing us making some people supporting their unbelief and others seemingly getting something out of all the conversations.
I make hardiplank sitings all the time🤦♂️
As in “James Hardie”?
@@humblethinker8493 As in sidings, lol.
Note: There's no book in the Bible called "James". What everybody in the English World know as the "Book of James", in reality is the Book of Jacob!!!! Historic Background: In 1604 King James 1 of England authorized a translation of the Bible. (What we know today as the "King James" Bible). It seems that out of vanity, he wanted his name to appear in the title of one of the books of the Bible, and today the Book of Jacob is known as "The Book of James". The other translations followed the tradition, and also called the Book of Jacob, "Book of James"; however there are a few versions that translate correctly, the name. ( The name "James" has no hebrew origin.)
Is this host a son of Nicolas Cage?
Like begets like. The incorruptible word begets incorruptible Nature while corruptible begets corruptible.
We have first born the image of the Earthy(First Adam) so through Christ(second Adam) we are being begotten a second time Life given spirit. The seeds are different in nature.
God is not in the business of raisin the Old nature(Mortal) But Begotten New Creatures(Immortals).
The only question is, Is God able to do this?
I’m convinced He is able to Do.
Glory@head
Jesus isn’t real
Dying and resurrecting GODMAN Story. Nothing new.
But what's interesting is that LORD GOD MOST HIGH is a God who accepts VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE, who gives victory for a VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE.
Judges 11:29-40
[29]Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead, and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over unto the children of Ammon.
[30]And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
[31]Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD'S, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
[32]So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the LORD delivered them into his hands.
[33]And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
[34]And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
[35]And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
[36]And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
[37]And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
[38]And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
[39]And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
[40]That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
A GOD WHO WANTS THE FIRSTBORN SACRIFICE later disguised by A VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE OF THE LAMB. Pedophiles also use dolls in place of children but the HEART AND DEED are ONE. If you are told to SACRIFICE OR BREAK THE NECK OF WHAT YOU'RE UNWILLING TO REDEEM. NOW Christians DRINK and EAT the BLOOD AND THE HUMAN FLESH OF THE VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE SYMBOLICALLY AND RITUALISTICLY (sameasped) for eternal victory (judges11:29)
Exodus 13:9-15
[9]And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
[10]Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.
[11]And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, as he sware unto thee and to thy fathers, and shall give it thee,
[12]That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD'S.
[13]And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.
[14]And it shall be when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What is this? that thou shalt say unto him, By strength of hand the LORD brought us out from Egypt, from the house of bondage:
[15]And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem.
John 6:53-54
[53]Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
[54]Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Melkizadek brought fourth bread and wine (Jesus virgin child sacrafice) After Abraham assassinatEd the kings who were battling evil kingdoms of giants and brought back child bearing women. Next Abraham VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE ISAAC. A Ram Is not a LAMB. ABRAHAM COMPLETED THE VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE AS A BURNT OFFERING just like Jephthah. Abraham returned ALONE.
Genesis 22:19
[19]So Abraham returned unto his young men, and they rose up and went together to Beersheba; and Abraham dwelt at Beersheba.
ALONE ISAAC BURNT ON THE MOUNTAIN.
VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE OF EGYPT FIRSTBORN
Exodus 12:12
[12]For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
*LAMBS ARE VIRGIN CHILDREN*
*show me the FRUITS OF GODS SPIRIT*
love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
SHOW ME!
Rebuke the LORD OF VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE awaken be reborn to the truth.
Amos 5:26
[26]But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Levi eviL
Joshua 24:15
[15]And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD,
choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Seems to me you’ve added alot thats not there and/or interpreted it to fit your narrative instead of the way it was intended as do most w an agenda imo.
@@missvickimae1150 @missvickimae1150 is The Bible inerrant? Is it God's Word (every word god intended)?
* A simple yes or no will suffice*
@missvickimae1150
@missvickimae1150 So are you saying the bible is written without an agenda in mind?
@@missvickimae1150 PROVE IT
@missvickimae1150
Prove. What did I add? So me the quoted scripture that I miss quoted. Show me what I added. Mine is a *whole story* theology just like Christianity. From beginning until end VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE is the KEY theme.
Jesus=A VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE
JESUS A VIRGIN ✔️
JESUS A CHILD ✔️ (FIRSTBORN)
JESUS A SACRIFICE ✔️
It went from ACTUAL VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE
To a LAMB AS A VIRGIN CHILD SACRIFICE
To a HUMAN SON who's FLESH AND BLOOD is to be eaten and drunken in symbolic remember of the RITUALISTICLY SACRIFICED HUMAN FOR FREEDOM/LIFE (mirrors exodus 12:12) just as told by MOSES
Exodus 12:12
[12]For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
Exodus 13:9-15
[9]And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
[10]Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.
[11]And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, as he sware unto thee and to thy fathers, and shall give it thee,
[12]That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD'S.
[13]And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.
[14]And it shall be when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What is this? that thou shalt say unto him, By strength of hand the LORD brought us out from Egypt, from the house of bondage:
[15]And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem.
The Gospel of Peter that this guy is teaching? It is a lie it is part of the deceit.
You 2 look like father and son, or even more, the same person few decades apart....strange....hmmm
Paul gives me vibes of a snake oil salesman
The fundamental flaw th Tabor and scholars in general is they have no faith. In fact "scholars" find the word itself contemptable, primarily because they have no experience with it. They are blinded to spiritual reality. They have a head full of facts and hearts filled with the world. I'll except Puals testimony and James instruction. May the Lord help Tabor before it's too late...
Boo
This man has Faith 🙏
Oh yeah wheres the millions of
*ZOMBIES*
the GREEK says BODY 😅
Matthew 27:52-53
[52]And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
[53]And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
WHERES THE WALKING DEAD
G4983
(148) times used as A BODY not a SPIRIT
LAST OF ALL HE DID APPEAR TO PAUL BUT THE NAME JESUS IS A LIE, YAHWEH MESSIAH IS HIS NAME.
YOU ARE SHOWING JUST HOW IGNORANT OF TRUTH THAT YOU ARE, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE TITLE DOCTOR MEANS NOTHING WHEN IT COMES TO THE REAL TRUTH.
THE ORIGINAL WORD OF YAHWEH WAS IN THE HEBREW NOT THE GREEK.
Just because you write in all caps means nothing when it comes to the real truth.
@@eprd313 i HAVE ALWAYS WRITTEN WITH CAPS, I LIKE CAPS, NO DIFFERENCE FROM THE SMALL LETTERS SAME ALPHABET. WHEN YOU ARE REDY TO DEBATE WHAT YOU BELIEVE LET ME KNOW, I WILL EVEN TURN THE CAPS OFF, LOL.
@@garystanfield2274 I believe it's ludicrous trying to read the minds of people who lived 2000 years ago, who most probably had mental issues or were blatantly lying and manipulating naive laymen. All religions are based on dishonesty and unfounded assumptions.
@@eprd313 All religions are man made and are of Satan. Yahweh is a faith, his Elect were all Spirit filled and knew all things. This world has been totally Satan's since Constantine and the 4th century.
@@garystanfield2274 Instead of YELLING, maybe you should look into the origins of Yahweh and see if you still think he's real.
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According to the general consensus of scholarship *(even critical Christian scholars),* YHWH was originally incorporated into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of the Canaanite high god El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah) before religious reforms "divorced" them. If you want to see if El is fictional, just read his mythology in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts. His pantheon in Ugarit is called the *Elohim,* literally the plural of El. Interestingly, the Biblical god is also referred to numerous times as Elohim.
"When El was young, he came across two beautiful Goddesses washing their clothes in the Sea. They were Athirat (Asherah) and the Goddess Rahmaya, and, after buttering them up by cooking a meal for them, he asked them to choose between being his daughters or wives. They choose the latter and became the mothers of the Gods Shachar "Dawn" and Shalim "Dusk"."
*"First, a god named El predates the arrival of the Israelites into Syria-Palestine.* Biblical usage shows El was not just a generic noun, but often a proper name for Israel’s God (e.g., Gen 33:20: “El, the God of Israel”)."
"I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the sons of El. It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the sons of El, plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, solely according to the number of the sons of El. *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting."*
*"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.*
(Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian)
*"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"*
(A second response to Michael Heiser)
*"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."*
*"The Table of Nations: The Geography of the World in Genesis 10 - TheTorah.com"*
(Excluding the short narrative on Nimrod (vv. 8-12), *which appears to be a later addition,* Genesis 10 contains *70* names of nations or cities, a number that was symbolic of totality. Similarly, the descendants of Jacob were *70* in number (Gen 46:37; Exod 1:5), *as were the sons of the supreme Canaanite god El, with whom YHWH became equated.)*
*"Ugarit - New World Encyclopedia"*
(Ugaritic religion centered on the chief god, Ilu or El, whose titles included "Father of mankind" and "Creator of the creation." The Court of El was referred to as the (plural) 'lhm or ***Elohim,*** a word ***later used by the biblical writers to describe the Hebrew deity*** and translated into English as "God," in the singular.
El, which was ***also the name of the God of Abraham,*** was described as an aged deity with white hair, seated on a throne.)
*"Mark Smith: Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh’s Ascendency - Lehi's Library"*
(Mark Smith is a Catholic)
*"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III | theyellowdart"*
*"02 | December | 2009 | Daniel O. McClellan - Psalm 82"*
(Daniel McClellan is a Mormon)
*"Elohim | Daniel O. McClellan"*
(Refer to the article "Angels and Demons (and Michael Heiser)")
*"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."*
(Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh)
*"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."*
*"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"*
*"The Gates of Ishtar - El, was the original god of the bible."*
*"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"*
(In addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh, it also appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort)
*"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia"*
(Refer to the section "Relationship to Biblical Religion")
*"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"*
(For a good summary of all of the above articles)
Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 27:40 minutes onwards.
Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on.
Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40.
Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"*
(By a former theist)
Watch *"The Origins of Yahweh"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.
Oh Tabor of sooo little faith your time almost over then you meet your Maker
What if you meet Allah or Vishnu? Then youre toasted buddy. Hows that for exiting the matrix? also why would "his maker" be angry at Tabor's honesty and critical thinking, and especially sincenitd always with love and respect for biblical traditions which he clearly has? What an infantile petty god you imagine you serve.
Redundant comment.
Sorry for the bad news but Tabor is correct.
Elvis is dead.
And the father welcoming Tabors spirit. Tabor has a point, its about the spirit, not the body.
That's like saying oh Tabor ignore all the research and evidence of the NT itself and just believe the Church's version of what they said about the NT.
You want him to ignore everything they have studied from the NT in the actual Greek?
That's your choice but why do you want others to just ignore evidence and hold on to other people's imagination just because you want it to actual be true?
Thanks!
I trust Paul more than James
James the Just, the actual brother of Jesus (Jesus, whom Paul never met; except "spiritually", as he claimed.