Thank you for this great series and for this wonderful channel which is accompanying me since 4 years right now. Just got back to this first video I watched many years ago after learning about Ed’s tragic death. Thank you again Ed for all your amazing work as a comic artist and for sharing your love for comics with us. Rest in peace with all the other artists that you loved and shared your thoughts about on this channel. You deserved much better than this.
Speaking later on in the video about how some of Moore's later ideas/characters were seeded in Marvelman, the two terrorists conversation panels at 13:35 hints to a Yank they'd met in Angola who'd seen a bomb go up - "He was a Comedian and no mistake..." 🙂
When that a-bomb hit, poor Dicky Dauntless was shouting out Miracleman's name, which was exactly the wrong thing to do -- that's why he had two bodies.
Moore’s Saga of the Swamp Thing re-ignited my love of comics, helping me appreciate the ‘ninth art’ more deeply. Would love to hear and see your take on his Swamp Thing run.
Book one chapter one is a reprint from the original Mick Anglo Marvelman with art by Don Lawrence, which isn't part of the original issue of Warrior #1 and isn't in Alan M's original script . It was added for the US Pacific/ Eclipse reprints. Not sure if It was added by Dez Skinn Or Alan M, but the "Science Gestapo / Nietsche" transition feels a lot like Moore.
I just found you guys and this was an excellent introduction to your channel. Meaty, substantial analysis and discussion from experts and creators I admire - it's like a dream come true!
Excellent escapism in and of itself -- really enjoying you guys revisiting the comics that fascinated me and resonated with the inversion of classic story archetypes. Do continue.
Hell yes! “Moore” of this please! Great insights so far on one of my favorite comics. That panel of Bates floating blew my little mind when I stumbled on that via a garage sale long box find my grandma brought me in the late 80s. Kimota!
Thank you Ed, Tom, and Sir Not Appearing in this Video, aka Jim. Thank you for the Cartoonist Kayfabe channel. It is a boon for the true comic lover's soul. In a day and time when so many people only give a shit about flipping a variant cover at a profit, these deep dives into comics classics are so appreciated. And now, a word from Neil Gaiman, who is also a mensch and a helluva sweet guy. th-cam.com/video/isLW0TTB2R0/w-d-xo.html
I’d love it if y’all went through the MM run units entirety. I’d also really enjoy the Swamp Thing run especially if y’all found a way to cruise into the Veitch run as well!
I remember waiting for each issue to arrive, especially the long march between 15 & 16. Compare this with Moore’s CAPT BRITAIN to see how his narrative abilities-alongside Alan Davis’ art-develop towards SWAMP THING and mo(o)re. Thanks for the overview!🖖
Great job with the meta and technical aspects in these kayfabe vids. Made me revisit dark knight and now I have an interest to check out miracleman. 👏🏾👍🏾
Have you checked out Ed Pinsent's 'Silver Age Superman'? It's a bootleg comic that amps up the paranoia and pseudo-psychological flavour of the Weisinger era. He was sending them out for the price of postage a few years ago.
fellas, I would love for you to do a dive into the Swamp. I've read Moore's first two vol's of Swamp Thing, and while I know there's something great in there, I don't have the vocabulary or understanding to put my finger on what it is. keep up the great work, your passion and drive is inspiring!
That juxtaposition of silver age and modern versions of characters seemed to strike a fannish chord with Moore; he went back to it on virtually every superhero comic he had a hand in creating afterwards.
Would love if you guys analyse and talk about some later super hero stuff from Alan Moore, like Supreme or his run on WildC.a.t.s, even some ABCs stuff always thought those comics were so underrated
Very satisfying. I love the fact that you pointed out that Mike is doesn't look "exactly" like Miracle Man. That's great detail. I would have chalked it up to just art skills, but now that you mentioned it; I am even more impressed by the creators. I wonder how much of the time do you think this sort of stuff happens? I assume it's less prevalent with "jobbers".
Yo! Love all the vids! Brings a fresh perspective to Moore’s books. Please make a vid on mm issue 15 or the Olympus art. I’d love to hear what you guys think about totleben’s art.
Miracle Man is amazing. The whole series is gripping. You can see how well thought out ir is. The wife has sex with Miracle Man and Mike Moran is actually upset about it, he feels inferior to Miracle Man. Kid Miracle Man is driven insane by his own power. Why is hyper-psychotic in the way KMM is? I'm not quite sure its explained in that much detail but he's a full blown psycho. I enjoyed the series.
Just found your channel and I'll definitely subscribe for more Moore! He's my favorite author and I'm always game to hear other fans talk about his work. In future, it might be a good idea to do a soundcheck with your mics though. Sometimes, you sound really over modded.
Hi, newbie question here: At the 7:15ish mark in the video, they talk about how they felt that the artist similar to something like "the Paul Galacie" school? I couldn't figure out what name they were saying. I looked up Galacy Galacie Gulacy etc. Does anyone know?
Im watching you from Mexico now! Great first program about MM! After you finish with Moore´s MM are you going to continue with Gaiman´s short (and still unfinished) Run on the character? that would be awesome.
A question: What if Alan Moore had come to America early and DC had hired him to revamp Captain Marvel so that Miracleman was the new Captain Marvel? Would it have been as good, just as written? Miracleman is a wild departure from the source material, Marvelman, but Marvelman is inherently derivative to its core anyway. It's a very thinly-veiled Captain Marvel ripoff. It's not even thinly-veiled. To me, that makes it less offensive that Moore changed the intent of the original stories because there was very little, if any, original creator input anyway. But with Captain Marvel, it would have been very different. In a sense, the Miracleman-type storylines would have trampled on the intent of all previous Captain Marvel stories. It would have taken the character to places Otto Binder or CC Beck never imagined in their worst fever dream while suffering from influenza. I bring this up because it gets at the double-edged sword of this kind of deconstruction. On one hand, a story can be a brilliant piece of work, but to truly work, it also has to fit cohesively into the intellectual franchise it is an extension of. So it's a very fine line. Here Moore must have felt more emboldened to ignore the second edge because of Marvelman's wonky history. It made the character closer to the alternate takes he did in Watchmen. Note that when Moore wrote Superman, he still found unexplored parts of the character, but he played nice with being part of a larger tapestry. Maybe that was editorial, but maybe it was Moore's own respect for the previous works.
Thank you for this great series and for this wonderful channel which is accompanying me since 4 years right now. Just got back to this first video I watched many years ago after learning about Ed’s tragic death. Thank you again Ed for all your amazing work as a comic artist and for sharing your love for comics with us. Rest in peace with all the other artists that you loved and shared your thoughts about on this channel. You deserved much better than this.
This is a great idea for a series. I'd like at least one more on Miracleman!
Miss you Eddy P
Speaking later on in the video about how some of Moore's later ideas/characters were seeded in Marvelman, the two terrorists conversation panels at 13:35 hints to a Yank they'd met in Angola who'd seen a bomb go up - "He was a Comedian and no mistake..." 🙂
When that a-bomb hit, poor Dicky Dauntless was shouting out Miracleman's name, which was exactly the wrong thing to do -- that's why he had two bodies.
EXCELLENT TASTE!!!! More MOORE!!!!
pleasepleaseplease continue the miracleman coverage! it's so good
Moore’s Saga of the Swamp Thing re-ignited my love of comics, helping me appreciate the ‘ninth art’ more deeply. Would love to hear and see your take on his Swamp Thing run.
Alan Moore ignited my love of comics period.
I love this. More Miracleman, please.
Book one chapter one is a reprint from the original Mick Anglo Marvelman with art by Don Lawrence, which isn't part of the original issue of Warrior #1 and isn't in Alan M's original script . It was added for the US Pacific/ Eclipse reprints. Not sure if It was added by Dez Skinn Or Alan M, but the "Science Gestapo / Nietsche" transition feels a lot like Moore.
What a great video! Moore is one of my top writers so YES please more Miracleman and any other Moore videos!
I just found you guys and this was an excellent introduction to your channel. Meaty, substantial analysis and discussion from experts and creators I admire - it's like a dream come true!
In his wedding pic Mike looks like Mel Gibson
Definitely love you guys to cover each issue of this . !!
More Miracleman? Yes please. I am hoping for some LOEG deep diving soon too! Good time for it as it's all about to wrap up.
This was a fantastic break down of he first issue. Please continue to cover Miracleman
Excellent escapism in and of itself -- really enjoying you guys revisiting the comics that fascinated me and resonated with the inversion of classic story archetypes. Do continue.
Moore Miracle Man!! I just got the first 10 issues and cannot wait to see y'all unpack those.
Definitely would love to see “Moore” of u guys discussing Marvel man
Hell yes! “Moore” of this please! Great insights so far on one of my favorite comics. That panel of Bates floating blew my little mind when I stumbled on that via a garage sale long box find my grandma brought me in the late 80s. Kimota!
you guys can do no wrong. best channel on youtube. get jim in on the next one.
Lovecraft is the gift that keeps on giving. It's like he is the rosetta stone for existential horror.
Love it guys keep going!
Gary Leach was the Mac Raboy of the 1980's.
great first video fellas. Count me in for Moore comics in general, but I'd love to see more Miracleman talk for sure.
Totally forgot until this video that Tenacious D more than likely got “Young Nastyman” from Miracleman for “The Ballad of Wonderboy”
Thank you Ed, Tom, and Sir Not Appearing in this Video, aka Jim. Thank you for the Cartoonist Kayfabe channel. It is a boon for the true comic lover's soul. In a day and time when so many people only give a shit about flipping a variant cover at a profit, these deep dives into comics classics are so appreciated. And now, a word from Neil Gaiman, who is also a mensch and a helluva sweet guy. th-cam.com/video/isLW0TTB2R0/w-d-xo.html
Oh yeah! Moore of this. Thanks.
Yes, keep going with Miracleman!
Another great video. Going to check out MiracleMan now!
Fantastic first show of the Moore series. Good stuff 👍
Great job! I would absolutely dig another ep about MM!
I’d love it if y’all went through the MM run units entirety. I’d also really enjoy the Swamp Thing run especially if y’all found a way to cruise into the Veitch run as well!
Great episode! I’d love to hear more about the Miracleman books!
I remember waiting for each issue to arrive, especially the long march between 15 & 16. Compare this with Moore’s CAPT BRITAIN to see how his narrative abilities-alongside Alan Davis’ art-develop towards SWAMP THING and mo(o)re. Thanks for the overview!🖖
Great job with the meta and technical aspects in these kayfabe vids. Made me revisit dark knight and now I have an interest to check out miracleman. 👏🏾👍🏾
Loved this idea - read Moore comics is a win in my book
Maybe look at a Gran Morrison segment too
His Supreme run was also incredible.
This is awesome, thanks! Can't wait for more eps
Dope AF! Alan Moore knows the score!
This is great, I'm here for all of it but really hope you guys do Promethea. My favorite Moore work!
Have you checked out Ed Pinsent's 'Silver Age Superman'? It's a bootleg comic that amps up the paranoia and pseudo-psychological flavour of the Weisinger era. He was sending them out for the price of postage a few years ago.
Loved this issue and this video!
Amazing
Awesome video! If it was up to me, please do the rest of the Miracleman run.
I just started getting into Miracleman myself so it's so Serindipidous that you guys choose now to talk about it!
serendipitous
I wanna hear more from both Alan Moore & Miracle Man.
Loving the content guys!
Please do more Miracleman!
fellas, I would love for you to do a dive into the Swamp. I've read Moore's first two vol's of Swamp Thing, and while I know there's something great in there, I don't have the vocabulary or understanding to put my finger on what it is. keep up the great work, your passion and drive is inspiring!
That juxtaposition of silver age and modern versions of characters seemed to strike a fannish chord with Moore; he went back to it on virtually every superhero comic he had a hand in creating afterwards.
Awesome history shirt!
Awesome!
Would love if you guys analyse and talk about some later super hero stuff from Alan Moore, like Supreme or his run on WildC.a.t.s, even some ABCs stuff always thought those comics were so underrated
Oh my god I’m so excited about this!!!!!!
OH I LOVE THIS! SO EXCITED!
Very satisfying. I love the fact that you pointed out that Mike is doesn't look "exactly" like Miracle Man. That's great detail. I would have chalked it up to just art skills, but now that you mentioned it; I am even more impressed by the creators.
I wonder how much of the time do you think this sort of stuff happens? I assume it's less prevalent with "jobbers".
Yo! Love all the vids! Brings a fresh perspective to Moore’s books. Please make a vid on mm issue 15 or the Olympus art. I’d love to hear what you guys think about totleben’s art.
Miracle Man is amazing.
The whole series is gripping.
You can see how well thought out ir is.
The wife has sex with Miracle Man and Mike Moran is actually upset about it, he feels inferior to Miracle Man.
Kid Miracle Man is driven insane by his own power. Why is hyper-psychotic in the way KMM is? I'm not quite sure its explained in that much detail but he's a full blown psycho.
I enjoyed the series.
Just found your channel and I'll definitely subscribe for more Moore! He's my favorite author and I'm always game to hear other fans talk about his work.
In future, it might be a good idea to do a soundcheck with your mics though. Sometimes, you sound really over modded.
Hi, newbie question here: At the 7:15ish mark in the video, they talk about how they felt that the artist similar to something like "the Paul Galacie" school? I couldn't figure out what name they were saying. I looked up Galacy Galacie Gulacy etc. Does anyone know?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gulacy
Im watching you from Mexico now! Great first program about MM! After you finish with Moore´s MM are you going to continue with Gaiman´s short (and still unfinished) Run on the character? that would be awesome.
Can't express a thought in 22 pages...lookin' at you BKV.
Do Grant Morrison Miracleman Next!!!!!!!!!!!
Well spoken had this old dude sit up and listen a bit closer.
Nice vid nice vid.
Yes!
Oh hell yes.
A question: What if Alan Moore had come to America early and DC had hired him to revamp Captain Marvel so that Miracleman was the new Captain Marvel? Would it have been as good, just as written? Miracleman is a wild departure from the source material, Marvelman, but Marvelman is inherently derivative to its core anyway. It's a very thinly-veiled Captain Marvel ripoff. It's not even thinly-veiled. To me, that makes it less offensive that Moore changed the intent of the original stories because there was very little, if any, original creator input anyway. But with Captain Marvel, it would have been very different. In a sense, the Miracleman-type storylines would have trampled on the intent of all previous Captain Marvel stories. It would have taken the character to places Otto Binder or CC Beck never imagined in their worst fever dream while suffering from influenza.
I bring this up because it gets at the double-edged sword of this kind of deconstruction. On one hand, a story can be a brilliant piece of work, but to truly work, it also has to fit cohesively into the intellectual franchise it is an extension of. So it's a very fine line. Here Moore must have felt more emboldened to ignore the second edge because of Marvelman's wonky history. It made the character closer to the alternate takes he did in Watchmen. Note that when Moore wrote Superman, he still found unexplored parts of the character, but he played nice with being part of a larger tapestry. Maybe that was editorial, but maybe it was Moore's own respect for the previous works.
Please do Top 10, thanks guys.
Great idea! I hope this will be released as a podcast as well - I don't see it on soundcloud.com/cartoonist-kayfabe right now...
Okay, it's up there now. Hooray!
You should do 1963
Can I get a READ MOORE COMIX t-shirt?
Meh long or short who cares. its gotta be good if not- in the trash.
moore of these episodes