Pros: + great price + awesome handling, loads of fun + high tech (fuel injection, twinspark, 4valves, all LED) + maximum 2,5-2,7l/100km + it´s a looker, attracts public, makes a lot of people smile :) Cons: - some chinese parts lack quality (tyres, spark plugs and caps, chain) - child diseases to be expected, but 2 year warranty sorts it (I had some great troubles, but I´m rather unlucky), tighten all screws after purchase :) - spare parts delivery takes ages, hard to find stuff for modifications - speedo overreads by 13% - short service intervals (3´000km) - high beam sucks and switches the dims off - not good for nightriding..
I owned a 125 Hi-Bird brand motorcycle made in zongshen (a clone motor found in tons of chinese bikes). Bought for 400$ because it blew head gaskets at 700 miles lol. Turns out the valve clearances were set wrong from the factory. I replaced the gasket and put the valves in proper spec and after that i was impressed with the bike. It was a great motorcycle. Suspension was super nice, brakes were discs and pretty good. I took it offroad a bunch and it did great. Sold it to a friend as his first bike and it still rides perfect years later. The quality for the price on these chinese bikes is great, but the assembly is probably done quickly and not double checked. If i were to buy another chinese made bike, i'd have a once over of some of the important bits before putting too many miles down, but the materials used are really the same quality as what Honda uses for the most part.
Honda Grom is made in Thailand. Can you explain what makes Thailand manufacturing better than Chinese manufacturing?.... It all depends on the quality standards that the brand sets.... I own a TNT 135 is the quality is great!
@@3kbaby823 Its more to do with Italian company Benelli overseeeing the quality of the production. Much like how Apple does when they have their manufacturing lines in China.
I run the UK tnt facebook group, we get the 125 version only but still a great bike, more power, fuel capacity, fat bars, better suspension and comfort than the grom, i had 2 of those and prefer this, only things we have changed is spark plugs n caps for ngk versions as the standard ones are poor.
In the beginning you had me lost when you said "made in China" but after watching this review I'm looking for a dealer here in New York. Thank for the honest review
$2,500 is the base price, plus destination, taxes, tags assembly, you're looking at around $3,000 out the door; But even so I think it is a better deal then a grom or Kawasaki.
Benelli always had a good reputation, I'm not a fan of the Chinese but I think I'm going to get the TNT over the Kawi and Honda. I have heard nothing but good about these bikes and for 2500 bucks, we crap, that's a win win! This will be great for my daughters first street bike to learn on and have fun at that!
An important fact, despite having been bought, Benelli, by a Chinese company, some models that continued to be produced (which are already discontinued) Such as Benelli TNT and TreK 899 and 1130 were designed and produced in Italy and then sent to assemblies in different countries. And I have to say that they were the only models with really thoughtful and interesting designs. The latest designs I regret to say that they look like an effort to keep the name alive ... Many bikes seem to mix ideas and designs from other brands, such as La Benelli TNT, BN. whichever it is 600 that although it had motor 4 cylinders its aesthetics was almost a complete imitation of the Aprilia Shiver, but with a not very good performance. Or also the Benelli 402s with a design that looks like another imitation of the Ducati XDiavel but with a dwarf engine. They were good motorcycles, I had a TNT 899 ... I hope in a moment they will have better ideas of design and creativity.
Hey Adam! How are you? I'm glad I have found you making videos again! I didn't know what were you doing after Motorcycle USA. I miss that page... I followed it since 2006 and reading their motorcycle reviews was one of the main reasons that made me learn English... Never underestimate the power of motorbikes :D I'm following you, keep it up man! Regards from Argentina :) Matías Dun.
All right a KTM reference slid in !! Thank you for showing the actual bike your talking about!! Adam review the Husky 701 SuperMoto!!! Explain why they are always sold out!!
Almost wasn't going to watch this, but then this bike seems pretty dang cool and not a bad price. Reliability is the primary concern though. Italian engineering + Chinese manufacturing = big LOL
Then what do you call a Grom? Japanese engeneering + Thailand manufacturing = what? ....or Apple... designs in CA, manufactures in China... big LOL too? same thing with Benelli... standards in manufacturing aré quite good even though they aré made in china...
There is no standard in manufacturing haha. Italian engineering can be a bit questionable, especially paired with Chinese manufacturing. Ultimately, it all really depends on the company... I was just going by norms. And the stuff made in Thailand has had some pretty major issues. Just look at Honda's 300 engines....gazillions of grenading engines and then finally a major recall came (still questionable with idiot dealer mechanics...google post recall issues). The 500 engines also had quite a few recalls, but nothing major. Also, it's generally the cheaper motorcycles (under $9k) from Honda that are made in Thailand. Anyways, bottom line...I'm not harping on the Benelli too much....I'm just a very cautious buyer. The Benelli look sweet, sounds like it has a thumbs up from quite a few journalists, and at its price, I think it's worth taking the risk.
Nice work thanks for sharing this. I have been riding 1980's sure like to see the front and rear lights (Turn Signals) stay ON LIKE DAY LIGHT running lights be VISIBLE! (RLYI- Ride Like Your Invisible). I'm thinking about this for my son as his first bike. New these sell for $2,400 in the US. Thoughts?
We've had this in Southeast Asia for awhile now. Despite costing more than the grom and z125 when it came out kids were quick to hop on the wagon lol, and lemme tell you I'm already seeing quite a few 2nd hands for sell at a steeply depreciated price for some reason. Apparently there's quite a bit of quality issues with a lotta small fixes here and there
Not sure about hi handle bar = better control? Sports bike has low handle bars and they better be a lot of control when they can go as fast as 200 mph.
I' waiting for someone to ride from NY to LA on this with full story. 135cc's is a bit small, however with a +1 and -1 sprocket, it could be decent on secondary roads. I would NEVER use this on the freeway.
RIP Annette Carrion 4:02 I still want a Z125 bc I love Kawasaki and it's better than a Grom, but dang this bike isn't bad! I also like the Kymco Spade 150 if you've seen that one. SSR/Benelli are really stepping it up it seems. 4-valve twin spark head with extra displacement and an extra gear??? Chinese bikes may finally be worth buying.
Common gentleman, no dealer give you this bike for $2500. By the time you get this out the door, it will set you back almost $4000. They keep adding a bunch of fees and you kids do not even notice that, just your poor dad is the one who feels it.
Good review, but ya know, I don't give a f**k about watching an entire review from a GoPro viewpoint. When you talk about the frame, show it. When you talk about the suspension, show it. Just listening to a talking head with the video of the road ahead doesn't get it for me, and for many others I'm sure.
Whats the difference? Honda Grom is made in Thailand...now a days you cannot expect a -600cc bike to be made in Japan, or Italy... its just not going to happen.... it all depends on the quality standards that each brand sets.... even KTM is now partnering with CFMOTO for manufacturing in their China plant.
Helmets from U.S. brands (Bell, Icon, Scorpion) are made in China, so are iPhones and numerous other high quality products. It all depends on how much a company is willing to pay for and ensure quality control, not so much the manufacturer's country.
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Pros:
+ great price
+ awesome handling, loads of fun
+ high tech (fuel injection, twinspark, 4valves, all LED)
+ maximum 2,5-2,7l/100km
+ it´s a looker, attracts public, makes a lot of people smile :)
Cons:
- some chinese parts lack quality (tyres, spark plugs and caps, chain)
- child diseases to be expected, but 2 year warranty sorts it (I had some great troubles, but I´m rather unlucky), tighten all screws after purchase :)
- spare parts delivery takes ages, hard to find stuff for modifications
- speedo overreads by 13%
- short service intervals (3´000km)
- high beam sucks and switches the dims off - not good for nightriding..
Thanks man this is a help.
Thanks!
Thanks man! Very useful!
How's it holding up a year later? Considering getting one with a salvaged title
Yo nobody wants child diseases on their minibike.
I owned a 125 Hi-Bird brand motorcycle made in zongshen (a clone motor found in tons of chinese bikes). Bought for 400$ because it blew head gaskets at 700 miles lol. Turns out the valve clearances were set wrong from the factory. I replaced the gasket and put the valves in proper spec and after that i was impressed with the bike. It was a great motorcycle. Suspension was super nice, brakes were discs and pretty good. I took it offroad a bunch and it did great. Sold it to a friend as his first bike and it still rides perfect years later. The quality for the price on these chinese bikes is great, but the assembly is probably done quickly and not double checked. If i were to buy another chinese made bike, i'd have a once over of some of the important bits before putting too many miles down, but the materials used are really the same quality as what Honda uses for the most part.
It's like this bike has everything a Grom owner wished their's had for considerable less $$$!
Mal, that's true but Adam did report, "Yeah it's made in China but the fit and finish is pretty good".
Honda Grom is made in Thailand. Can you explain what makes Thailand manufacturing better than Chinese manufacturing?.... It all depends on the quality standards that the brand sets.... I own a TNT 135 is the quality is great!
Except reliability
I regret nothing
@@3kbaby823 Its more to do with Italian company Benelli overseeeing the quality of the production. Much like how Apple does when they have their manufacturing lines in China.
More power, 5-speed, if I'm going to choose, I would pick this over Grom(or Z125).
I run the UK tnt facebook group, we get the 125 version only but still a great bike, more power, fuel capacity, fat bars, better suspension and comfort than the grom, i had 2 of those and prefer this, only things we have changed is spark plugs n caps for ngk versions as the standard ones are poor.
In the beginning you had me lost when you said "made in China" but after watching this review I'm looking for a dealer here in New York. Thank for the honest review
Hi. Any luck with finding dealer in NY?
$2,500 is the base price, plus destination, taxes, tags assembly, you're looking at around $3,000 out the door; But even so I think it is a better deal then a grom or Kawasaki.
With all the fees I end up paying about $3,700 I bought it with one mile on it straight from the dealership
Your estimate is a little low
And...it’s fuel injected. Many Chinese clones are carb bikes. This bike has a 12 month warranty, clones about 3 months. What does that tell you?
Benelli always had a good reputation, I'm not a fan of the Chinese but I think I'm going to get the TNT over the Kawi and Honda. I have heard nothing but good about these bikes and for 2500 bucks, we crap, that's a win win! This will be great for my daughters first street bike to learn on and have fun at that!
An important fact, despite having been bought, Benelli, by a Chinese company, some models that continued to be produced (which are already discontinued) Such as Benelli TNT and TreK 899 and 1130 were designed and produced in Italy and then sent to assemblies in different countries. And I have to say that they were the only models with really thoughtful and interesting designs.
The latest designs I regret to say that they look like an effort to keep the name alive ... Many bikes seem to mix ideas and designs from other brands, such as La Benelli TNT, BN. whichever it is 600 that although it had motor 4 cylinders its aesthetics was almost a complete imitation of the Aprilia Shiver, but with a not very good performance. Or also the Benelli 402s with a design that looks like another imitation of the Ducati XDiavel but with a dwarf engine.
They were good motorcycles, I had a TNT 899 ... I hope in a moment they will have better ideas of design and creativity.
Adam, if you're selling, I'm buying. Always been that way. Another great review.
I am indeed. Please use the links in my description.
Love the price. If i didn't have a 150cc scooter, I would consider getting one.
This thing is so much better than a scooter much more easy to handle
Hey Adam! How are you?
I'm glad I have found you making videos again! I didn't know what were you doing after Motorcycle USA. I miss that page... I followed it since 2006 and reading their motorcycle reviews was one of the main reasons that made me learn English... Never underestimate the power of motorbikes :D
I'm following you, keep it up man!
Regards from Argentina :)
Matías Dun.
I notice that the one thing most all tnt reviews say is that the tires are not good and need to be replaced with better tires,
You should get a Lifan KP Mini and review it too.
Wish it had ABS. If so, would get it tomorrow. Will likely go for Grom. First rider and don't want to take any unnecessary risks. Any thoughts people?
I love competition. Yamaha needs to get in on this
yes come on yamaha!!!!!!!!!
KTM's gotta 125 duke. i'd love one but the fckers dont sell em in US :(
yup! remember the YSR!
@@wpspeed2738 I thought the Duke 125 is "normal" sized? Would be great if we got a mini-sized Duke or MX.
All right a KTM reference slid in !! Thank you for showing the actual bike your talking about!! Adam review the Husky 701 SuperMoto!!! Explain why they are always sold out!!
Depends on your area, plenty for sale in California
Very Nice , Thanks Adam !
Almost wasn't going to watch this, but then this bike seems pretty dang cool and not a bad price. Reliability is the primary concern though. Italian engineering + Chinese manufacturing = big LOL
Yeah, only time will tell...
Adam Waheed but for 2500 may be worthwhile
Then what do you call a Grom? Japanese engeneering + Thailand manufacturing = what? ....or Apple... designs in CA, manufactures in China... big LOL too? same thing with Benelli... standards in manufacturing aré quite good even though they aré made in china...
There is no standard in manufacturing haha. Italian engineering can be a bit questionable, especially paired with Chinese manufacturing. Ultimately, it all really depends on the company... I was just going by norms. And the stuff made in Thailand has had some pretty major issues. Just look at Honda's 300 engines....gazillions of grenading engines and then finally a major recall came (still questionable with idiot dealer mechanics...google post recall issues). The 500 engines also had quite a few recalls, but nothing major. Also, it's generally the cheaper motorcycles (under $9k) from Honda that are made in Thailand.
Anyways, bottom line...I'm not harping on the Benelli too much....I'm just a very cautious buyer. The Benelli look sweet, sounds like it has a thumbs up from quite a few journalists, and at its price, I think it's worth taking the risk.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 but all these bikes are Japanese/ Chinese/ Asian made anyway
The rear suspension IS adjustable.
Nice work thanks for sharing this. I have been riding 1980's sure like to see the front and rear lights (Turn Signals) stay ON LIKE DAY LIGHT running lights be VISIBLE! (RLYI- Ride Like Your Invisible). I'm thinking about this for my son as his first bike. New these sell for $2,400 in the US. Thoughts?
Your mirrors look steady.
We've had this in Southeast Asia for awhile now. Despite costing more than the grom and z125 when it came out kids were quick to hop on the wagon lol, and lemme tell you I'm already seeing quite a few 2nd hands for sell at a steeply depreciated price for some reason. Apparently there's quite a bit of quality issues with a lotta small fixes here and there
Love my little tnt
Any issues? or everything been good?
Any updates. How are they holding up? Honda Grom just released a ABS model, will SSR Benelli do the same?
You're so humble Adam! I can tell just by listening to u that you're wise man! ✌️
Not sure about hi handle bar = better control? Sports bike has low handle bars and they better be a lot of control when they can go as fast as 200 mph.
I got 1 ...the White 2021 TNT 135
What was the guy that pulled up next to you riding?..u we’re already at 70 and looks like he caught up easily
Nice bike
Great video! Love racing the grom. What were you pointing at? Seemed like a memorial but was on a straight?
73 mph, wow
Yeah, not bad...
@yumpladukfoo it's a 5spd. another pro over groms/kawi's
@yumpladukfoo there is a video of it doing 78mph and tops out at 76mph.
Am 6,2 and wanna buy my first bike but dunno if the tnt 135 would be confortable to ride for me : /
It would u would just lpok funny
Seems similar to the ssr razkull. Is this bike fuel injected?
How fast is it?
Fast forward 2023 and I’m picking them up about 2k do a little fixem up and turn them for 3k right now I can get enough of these
nice review, man. really informative
Thanks for making this review.
I' waiting for someone to ride from NY to LA on this with full story. 135cc's is a bit small, however with a +1 and -1 sprocket, it could be decent on secondary roads. I would NEVER use this on the freeway.
There is a TH-cam channel of a grom going across all Europe and a benelli doing 100k km in 2 years around asia
why many tall dudes like small bikes..and short rider like tall adventure bikes...lol...
the clutch is hard af
rear shock has some pre-load adjustment
Excellent review!
Not much aftermarket support for this right?
RENESIS89 close to none. Hoping more come soon
Mnnthbx have a few aftermarket parts for this. Yoshimura exhaust etc
Buy a used 250cc Honda in good shape for a beginner bike and leave the toys for teenagers.
RIP Annette Carrion 4:02
I still want a Z125 bc I love Kawasaki and it's better than a Grom, but dang this bike isn't bad! I also like the Kymco Spade 150 if you've seen that one. SSR/Benelli are really stepping it up it seems. 4-valve twin spark head with extra displacement and an extra gear??? Chinese bikes may finally be worth buying.
Good eye. RIP, Annette Carrion.
I agree. China is doing it.
Wow, that's nearly a straight road, how could she crash there?
I'm surprised to see the straight. RIP
Love this bike love price more
2500 out the door? Thanx
1:37 u are flying the grom it can t go that fast
Grom clones are getting wild there are so many
Very cool.
I would like to have one, but I live in Brazil :(
Cost
Does anyone know the TNT 135 gear set is the same as a Japanese motorcycle? I have trouble finding spare parts
The authorised dealers surely have em
@@saupin002 of course but im find better than authorised
Common gentleman, no dealer give you this bike for $2500. By the time you get this out the door, it will set you back almost $4000. They keep adding a bunch of fees and you kids do not even notice that, just your poor dad is the one who feels it.
Top speed is 120 km/h
GPS top is actually only 102km/h :)
I follow u now
Thanks man.
Wala bang inutang dyan
Just very very Italian hahahh.
Op
The engine copied on bajaj rouser 135
Good review, but ya know, I don't give a f**k about watching an entire review from a GoPro viewpoint. When you talk about the frame, show it. When you talk about the suspension, show it. Just listening to a talking head with the video of the road ahead doesn't get it for me, and for many others I'm sure.
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Are u crying ? 😕
Just wish it wasn't made in China.......
Whats the difference? Honda Grom is made in Thailand...now a days you cannot expect a -600cc bike to be made in Japan, or Italy... its just not going to happen.... it all depends on the quality standards that each brand sets.... even KTM is now partnering with CFMOTO for manufacturing in their China plant.
Helmets from U.S. brands (Bell, Icon, Scorpion) are made in China, so are iPhones and numerous other high quality products. It all depends on how much a company is willing to pay for and ensure quality control, not so much the manufacturer's country.
lol your name seemed familiar and i just noticed im reading your post on reddit about this bike
jackwednesday Coach, Ralph Lauren, Brook Brothers aren't made in USA.
My man the phone you are using is made in china 70 % of what u use is made in china