A quick addition to #2 (from a helpful redditor): In addition to needing to use a Djinni of the element the enemy is weak to, there's another requirement that is only occasionally relevant - the attacker's elemental power (ePower) must be higher than the enemy's elemental resistance (eResist). If it's significantly higher, you're guaranteed to get a rainbow kill, but if you're only slightly higher, there's an element of RNG and you'll only sometimes proc it. I don't happen to know the exact formula, though... maybe someone like Plexa has that info. Most of the time this doesn't come into play, since most enemies have very low eResist in their weakness, and characters usually have fairly high ePower in whatever element they possess Djinn of (since Djinn contribute to ePower). But now and then it can make a difference. Mind. Blown.
Getting all of the best items in the first game isn’t super necessary for a code transfer to The Lost Age but seriously get all of the Djinn before beating it.
That’s definitely worth mentioning, but I would even go so far as to say it’s not something you should do for a first time playthrough, mostly because they’re needed for the super bosses, but not overall story, ya know?
@@chocoboseI hear ya, i guess I’m more encouraging new players to explore towns/dungeons that they visited previously and saw something that they couldn’t access initially.
The 28 Dijinni transfer is a must equipment not so much in fact by the time the Golden sun 1 party joins in lost age All of their weapons/armors will have WEAKER stats then even the BUYABLE Lost age weapons/armors.
I would give this tip - about backtracking: you totally should. For example, after visiting Tolbi and getting the Cloak Psynergy you MUST backtrack through a cave southeast of the Karagol Sea to visit Lunpa. This is a sidestory easily missed the first time you play, as some of the Djinn from the worldmap.
Yeah, backtracking is definitely a thing in these games. I always try to convince new players to just do what they can first, and then explore the side quests :) that way they don’t just burn out when things might get harder. But a good tip regardless!!
No music encapsulates the Golden Sun Series and my childhood better than Elemental stars and Kolima Forest theme. I'm still listening to them now and then after 20+ years.
#6 very small tip, but by putting fragile characters (aka Ivan with vanilla classes) to the side of the party, they're less likely to be the central target of incoming multi-target psynergy, therefore taking slightly less damage every now and then.
@@chocoboseTBF there's still gonna be enemies targeting the side of the party deliberately if they want to target low resistances or something, so to be more precise, the best idea would be to put the... most easy target to the side? Maybe you can figure out a properly reliable way to make this a strategic advantage LOL
#3 I'd add that not only do the NPCs have a lot of things to say/think about the world they live in, but the dialogues of entire villages will change to new ones after crucial plot points (usually ones directly related to the town or important people from the town). For example, the whole town of Vault has certain lines on your first visit, then new lines after defeating the bandits, then some of the town has new lines after Ivan joins you, and then the whole town has new lines again when you return across the repaired bridge to the south. I've probably played the game 20 times over the past 23 years and I am still discovering new bits of lore in my current playthrough today!
If they would just remaster GoldenSun 1&2 I´m pretty sure younger generations would fall in love with this game, just like I did back in the day. Unfortunately the graphics (while great in 2002) don´t hold up with todays standards, which shys away younger people from giving it a try in the first place. The story, the music, the atmosphere, the immersion, the gameplay (combat system, etc)... This game has so much potential!
Im replaying this game again after so many years and the memories of playing this game back when I was kid are all coming back to me....here is a tip explore every single part of the map and towns and back track is a must to be able to get all the Djinn
My favorite RPGs of all time. I literally beat GS1 in October for the millionth time because i couldn't wait for it to come on nso. Was so hyped when they announced Jan with lost age. Saved my code
They do work between versions btw!! I figured they would, but I got confirmation yesterday and now I want to transfer my OG save file into TLA and see it in all that glory 🥲
Back in OG GBA days, I got into golden sun by finding a copy if the game cartridge in the middle of the street where i was riding my bike, with the label 3/4 ripped off. So not knowing what it was other then a GBA game so I popped it in and was forever hooked on JRPG!!!!
I remember seeing this game in Electronic Gaming Monthly back in the day and it showed off what the Gameboy Advance would look like. I never played it until it dropped on Switch and it’s one of my favorite JRPG’s.
I played these games when I was a kid and had no idea you could do that! I’d just use Isaac’s retreat and fight a haggard battle on my way back to the inn
One more tip: *Your mana pool refreshes gradually while walking* Because psynergy can be needed for puzzle solving, the devs added a feature where your Psynergy Points (PP) refreshes slowly as you walk around. Granted, its not much but at least you have some leeway in using spells or swords throughout the dungeon. And i love how certain weapons have a unique proc animation
#1 I'd add to the first point that you can often guess the elements of creatures correctly before starting to throw any elemental damage at them (at least after playing the games for a while). Though note there are anomalies, since monsters can also just have completely unique sets of elemental resistances. But generally, similar to your own adepts, monsters tend to be associated with one of the four elements. Aquatic creatures for example will tend to be Water/Mercury creatures, Airborne creatures like birds gargoyles etc. will tend to be Wind/Jupiter creatures, creatures that would be found in warmer climates or spew fire (salamanders, dragons etc.) will tend to be Fire/Mars creatures, and creatures like moles, apes, golems etc. tend to be Earth/Venus creatures. Generally, the rule is that a creature of a specific element will resist that element (a Jupiter creature or a Jupiter adept, will naturally have high Jupiter resistance), while being weak to the "opposing" element. Earth/VenusWind/Jupiter Fire/MarsWater/Mercury So for example if you come across a golem and a gargoyle, they're probably an earth and wind user respectively, so they resist those elements respectively while being weak to the other one, hence you'd want to use wind on the earth golem and earth on the wind gargoyle etc.
You’re absolutely right! Some are definitely more obvious, but then (of course) there are some others that don’t really align to that. Like the Mushroom enemies being weak to Fire but not neccisarily being Water-aligned.
BRO YOU LITERALLY MADE THIS A BRAND NEW GAME FOR ME AND I PLAYED IT THOSE MANY YEARS AGO.... I WOULD GIVE YOU A THOUSAND LIKES CAUSE IM MIND BLOWN. CAPS ARE INTENTIONAL
What an amazing vid! Well done, mate! I have been playing Golden Sun and The Lost Age since their release. I would love to do a system link PvP battle again! Those were the days!
I only ever was able to do them against myself 😂 no one I knew had even heard of Golden Sun until I got on Reddit and then suddenly there were dozens of us!
I was about 20 hours into Star Ocean on Switch right before Golden Sun dropped and I was so burnt out I needed the change of pace. I just thought it was funny that you started the video off with Star Ocean. :)
Great video. Would love to see a battle system run down with some tips and tricks. Guide on how you should approach combat perhaps? Like when you should physically attack, use psynergy, or use djinni. I personally found most battle psynergy to be underwhelming and stuck to stacking effects with djinn into summoning and setting most djinn to standby to summon while running thru random encounters.
That’s an interesting topic for sure! I’ll try to dig into that in my larger Golden Sun review/video, but from my experience, it’s almost entirely up to user preference 😁 I know that’s not the “best” answer, but I think it really boils down to “do you want to AoE or use your elemental boosts” vs “haha Megiddo go brrrrrrrr!”
The little text differences for hit effectiveness is actually good to know. Every time I’ve tried this game the battle system just confused me or I just lost interest part way through. Hoping to give a proper go this time
I had no idea the rainbow deaths were element related! I thought it was rng and had no effect other than fun animation haha. I remember trying to grind for certain weapons but losing patience, hopefully that helps a bit more my next playthrough!
I did not know you could walk to get you pp back kinda like ff8 with money btw I never played golden sun before so yes so far I love the battles background and the battle theme
WOW! You mentioned the elemental weakness and rainbow kills! This is really deep knowledge of the game! I figured this out back in 2001 on my own, when the Internet was not very developed. I felt like a genius xDDD
To be honest you probably were back then! It took me until maybe 2013 to figure out about the punctuation. Rainbow kills were also something that felt like an accident every time 😂
I’m glad you enjoyed! You’ll have to let me know what you think of the RG35xx. I’m not a clone console guy myself, but I can appreciate what they help achieve!
Hey, none of us could 🥲 tbh there was really only one “guide book” for Golden Sun at that time, and it was one of four walkthroughs included in a Nintendo Power Advance (Volume 3, Fall 2001 if you’re interested). It was an… okay walkthrough. Didn’t have any of this info though!
#0 Just a pet peeve you're free to dismiss, but I think the "Psy" part of Psynergy would make it sound the same as saying any other word in the English language that starts with "Psy" :^)
@@chocobose if memory serves it is called psynergy because it is psychic energy so a hard I sound should be the correct pronounciation. Great video btw. Love the golden sun trilogy and have been dying for a 4th for years.
A quick addition to #2 (from a helpful redditor):
In addition to needing to use a Djinni of the element the enemy is weak to, there's another requirement that is only occasionally relevant - the attacker's elemental power (ePower) must be higher than the enemy's elemental resistance (eResist). If it's significantly higher, you're guaranteed to get a rainbow kill, but if you're only slightly higher, there's an element of RNG and you'll only sometimes proc it. I don't happen to know the exact formula, though... maybe someone like Plexa has that info.
Most of the time this doesn't come into play, since most enemies have very low eResist in their weakness, and characters usually have fairly high ePower in whatever element they possess Djinn of (since Djinn contribute to ePower). But now and then it can make a difference.
Mind. Blown.
Getting all of the best items in the first game isn’t super necessary for a code transfer to The Lost Age but seriously get all of the Djinn before beating it.
That’s definitely worth mentioning, but I would even go so far as to say it’s not something you should do for a first time playthrough, mostly because they’re needed for the super bosses, but not overall story, ya know?
@@chocoboseI hear ya, i guess I’m more encouraging new players to explore towns/dungeons that they visited previously and saw something that they couldn’t access initially.
Now THAT I can get behind ;)
For a perfect file it’s absolutely mandatory.
The 28 Dijinni transfer is a must equipment not so much in fact by the time the Golden sun 1 party joins in lost age All of their weapons/armors will have WEAKER stats then even the BUYABLE Lost age weapons/armors.
Hey now, Camelot also made the Mario Tennis GBA games, and the music in those are as good as Golden Sun, even if it's not as varied.
Oh, no shade at ALL to any of Motoi Sakuraba's other works! His work outside of video games is some of my favorites as well :)
I would give this tip - about backtracking: you totally should. For example, after visiting Tolbi and getting the Cloak Psynergy you MUST backtrack through a cave southeast of the Karagol Sea to visit Lunpa. This is a sidestory easily missed the first time you play, as some of the Djinn from the worldmap.
Yeah, backtracking is definitely a thing in these games. I always try to convince new players to just do what they can first, and then explore the side quests :) that way they don’t just burn out when things might get harder. But a good tip regardless!!
I’m so excited to play this again as an adult! Haven’t played Golden Sun since it released
I’m looking forward to hearing your thoughts then! :)
In 2024 and still classic considering it's like a 2001 game. Will forever always replay this til the end of time 💯💯
My man!!
The Elemental Stars is my favorite piece of music in Golden Sun! It's so melancholic and ambient!
I’ve become much more receptive to it over the years for sure. Didn’t much like it as a kid, but adult me could listen on loop all night.
Ivan’s theme is my personal favorite
I feel like it’s not given enough respect in the game. We don’t get to hear it hardly enough!
Imil village and lemuria musics are magic
No music encapsulates the Golden Sun Series and my childhood better than Elemental stars and Kolima Forest theme. I'm still listening to them now and then after 20+ years.
ooh golden sun is one of those nintendo games with a small but dedicated fanbase and finally finding out how it plays makes it sound pretty good.
Oh will this be your first experience? Well welcome to the fandom then!! 😍
#6
very small tip, but by putting fragile characters (aka Ivan with vanilla classes) to the side of the party, they're less likely to be the central target of incoming multi-target psynergy, therefore taking slightly less damage every now and then.
WHAT?! I didn’t even think about that… but that makes a ton of sense omfg how did I never think about that!
@@chocoboseTBF there's still gonna be enemies targeting the side of the party deliberately if they want to target low resistances or something,
so to be more precise, the best idea would be to put the... most easy target to the side? Maybe you can figure out a properly reliable way to make this a strategic advantage LOL
Always done that 😂😂
Golden Sun 1 y 2 in Switch is a dream 😍 Thanks for the vídeo!
I couldn’t agree more :)
#3
I'd add that not only do the NPCs have a lot of things to say/think about the world they live in, but the dialogues of entire villages will change to new ones after crucial plot points (usually ones directly related to the town or important people from the town).
For example, the whole town of Vault has certain lines on your first visit, then new lines after defeating the bandits, then some of the town has new lines after Ivan joins you, and then the whole town has new lines again when you return across the repaired bridge to the south.
I've probably played the game 20 times over the past 23 years and I am still discovering new bits of lore in my current playthrough today!
The most important thing is do you know how to get the sol blade in Airs rock?
(It's kinda game changing, I find it fun)
Glad i found a fellow nerd! Thanks a lot for some of the tips i didn't know mate! Have fun in game and feel the nostalgia to the bone :)
You are welcome here!! It’s been so great to see so many people coming out of the woodwork to reminisce about this :)
If they would just remaster GoldenSun 1&2 I´m pretty sure younger generations would fall in love with this game, just like I did back in the day.
Unfortunately the graphics (while great in 2002) don´t hold up with todays standards, which shys away younger people from giving it a try in the first place.
The story, the music, the atmosphere, the immersion, the gameplay (combat system, etc)...
This game has so much potential!
I’m really hopeful myself :) there’s so many great examples of modernizing a game while still keeping everything at its core identity!
@@chocobose I agree!
An HD2D remake would be 🔥
Im replaying this game again after so many years and the memories of playing this game back when I was kid are all coming back to me....here is a tip explore every single part of the map and towns and back track is a must to be able to get all the Djinn
Also Turtle Boots
My favorite RPGs of all time. I literally beat GS1 in October for the millionth time because i couldn't wait for it to come on nso. Was so hyped when they announced Jan with lost age. Saved my code
They do work between versions btw!! I figured they would, but I got confirmation yesterday and now I want to transfer my OG save file into TLA and see it in all that glory 🥲
Taking the wrong slide when trying to get to the water djinn is me every time
OH GOD YOU NOTICED 🤣 it’s like… even if I prep in advance I always take the wrong one!
Hopefully this brings enough attention for them to make a remake
God just thinking about that makes me excited
Back in OG GBA days, I got into golden sun by finding a copy if the game cartridge in the middle of the street where i was riding my bike, with the label 3/4 ripped off. So not knowing what it was other then a GBA game so I popped it in and was forever hooked on JRPG!!!!
Now THAT is an origin story!!
Saturos battle theme is hands down my favorite. Even found a YT cover and put it on my personal playlist lol
Yeeeeeeeeeeeees!!! I Keep hearing that it’s overrated, but honestly there’s not one song in the entire game I’d ever consider to be overrated.
I remember seeing this game in Electronic Gaming Monthly back in the day and it showed off what the Gameboy Advance would look like. I never played it until it dropped on Switch and it’s one of my favorite JRPG’s.
Welcome to the fandom!! We’re glad to have you :) Have you jumped into The Lost Age yet? 👀
@@chocobose I hope soon after I beat the original. The game feels like a mix of Lunar and Shining The Holy Ark.
I'm 3 hours into the first game (first timer!) and I looooooooove it! Thanks for these great tips :)
You are so very welcome! 😍 I hope you’re having a great time in the world of Weyard!
I played these games when I was a kid and had no idea you could do that! I’d just use Isaac’s retreat and fight a haggard battle on my way back to the inn
Oh man… let me tell you about the exact day I learned 😂 it wasn’t that long ago tbh, so I’m happy to share it with everyone!
One more tip:
*Your mana pool refreshes gradually while walking*
Because psynergy can be needed for puzzle solving, the devs added a feature where your Psynergy Points (PP) refreshes slowly as you walk around. Granted, its not much but at least you have some leeway in using spells or swords throughout the dungeon.
And i love how certain weapons have a unique proc animation
You’re absolutely right! It’s super nice that your PP refreshes as you travel. Especially when combined with puzzle rooms that don’t have encounters!!
My brother just got me a pocket analog. And this was the first game I grabbed. I haven’t played it since I was 10. Super excited to try again.
I think the Analogue Pocket is super neat, and great choice playing Golden Sun on it ;)
#1
I'd add to the first point that you can often guess the elements of creatures correctly before starting to throw any elemental damage at them (at least after playing the games for a while).
Though note there are anomalies, since monsters can also just have completely unique sets of elemental resistances.
But generally, similar to your own adepts, monsters tend to be associated with one of the four elements.
Aquatic creatures for example will tend to be Water/Mercury creatures,
Airborne creatures like birds gargoyles etc. will tend to be Wind/Jupiter creatures,
creatures that would be found in warmer climates or spew fire (salamanders, dragons etc.) will tend to be Fire/Mars creatures,
and creatures like moles, apes, golems etc. tend to be Earth/Venus creatures.
Generally, the rule is that a creature of a specific element will resist that element (a Jupiter creature or a Jupiter adept, will naturally have high Jupiter resistance),
while being weak to the "opposing" element.
Earth/VenusWind/Jupiter
Fire/MarsWater/Mercury
So for example if you come across a golem and a gargoyle, they're probably an earth and wind user respectively, so they resist those elements respectively while being weak to the other one, hence you'd want to use wind on the earth golem and earth on the wind gargoyle etc.
You’re absolutely right! Some are definitely more obvious, but then (of course) there are some others that don’t really align to that. Like the Mushroom enemies being weak to Fire but not neccisarily being Water-aligned.
@@chocoboseyeah, another notable example are Mimics, who if I recall correctly are weak to Fire yet resisting Wind
Tbh I didn’t realize mimics even had a weakness!
BRO YOU LITERALLY MADE THIS A BRAND NEW GAME FOR ME AND I PLAYED IT THOSE MANY YEARS AGO.... I WOULD GIVE YOU A THOUSAND LIKES CAUSE IM MIND BLOWN. CAPS ARE INTENTIONAL
You’ve just made my day!! I’m so glad you’re finding benefit from these tips :))
This game was my childhood.
Just in time for it to be your adulthood game too ;)
The Venus Lighthouse theme reminds me a lot of Fleetwood Mac's "tell me lies" song.
… oh my god you’re so right though!!
Definitely taught me somthing wit rainbow kills. I thought the game was just bugging out for a sec or somthing
I did too when I was young! Good to know it wasn’t just me :)
This video deserves a lot more likes!!
Thanks for thinking so 😍
I missed this game. Looking forward to more Golden Sun videos!
I can’t wait to share this next one with everyone. It feels like it’s a little too long, but hey, people like that!
So nice to see golden sun back on youtube. My child hood has returned....
It’s been such an incredible experience seeing it come back in my lifetime :)
@@chocobose absolutely agree. Just finished OG last night. Onto TLA for the first time!!
Oh wow, you’re in for an experience!! Enjoy :)
i actually had no idea about the rainbow kill mechanic at all. and i played it through back when i was a kid.
I remember it happening every so often, but the “specifics” behind it weren’t fully understood until I was much older. So you’re in good company :)
What an amazing vid! Well done, mate! I have been playing Golden Sun and The Lost Age since their release. I would love to do a system link PvP battle again! Those were the days!
I only ever was able to do them against myself 😂 no one I knew had even heard of Golden Sun until I got on Reddit and then suddenly there were dozens of us!
great video! even though i've played multiple times, i didn't know about the rainbow kill 😅 looking forward to the retrospective!
I only wish more enemies in the first game had insane EXP dumps as the Wonder Bird 🥲
I was about 20 hours into Star Ocean on Switch right before Golden Sun dropped and I was so burnt out I needed the change of pace. I just thought it was funny that you started the video off with Star Ocean. :)
I’m actually in the middle of it myself 😂 and compared to Golden Sun… it’s just not the same!
Great video. Would love to see a battle system run down with some tips and tricks. Guide on how you should approach combat perhaps? Like when you should physically attack, use psynergy, or use djinni. I personally found most battle psynergy to be underwhelming and stuck to stacking effects with djinn into summoning and setting most djinn to standby to summon while running thru random encounters.
That’s an interesting topic for sure! I’ll try to dig into that in my larger Golden Sun review/video, but from my experience, it’s almost entirely up to user preference 😁
I know that’s not the “best” answer, but I think it really boils down to “do you want to AoE or use your elemental boosts” vs “haha Megiddo go brrrrrrrr!”
The little text differences for hit effectiveness is actually good to know. Every time I’ve tried this game the battle system just confused me or I just lost interest part way through. Hoping to give a proper go this time
I’m excited for you to give it another go too!! :)
I grew up playing both games over and over and I never knew about the punctuation! What a game changer
Helpful.
2 playthrough and didnt know about exclamations and rainbow 🤯
It’s a game changer!!
I had no idea the rainbow deaths were element related! I thought it was rng and had no effect other than fun animation haha. I remember trying to grind for certain weapons but losing patience, hopefully that helps a bit more my next playthrough!
I was the exact same way growing up! Spent hours in Venus Lighthouse trying to get weapon drops without knowing about the rainbow kill 😂
FIRST TIME PLAYING AND I LOVE IT !~
That’s such a great feeling!! Can’t wait for you to get to The Lost Age next!
Me after playing the holy ghost of these games, never knew the first tip. And i am shocked
Then there was the second tip
It’s like games used to be challenging for other reasons other than difficulty back in the day 🤣
I just finished book one now on to lost age.
First time player? We’re glad to have you! Enjoy TLA :)
I did not know you could walk to get you pp back kinda like ff8 with money btw I never played golden sun before so yes so far I love the battles background and the battle theme
Yeeeeeess!! Let the music of Motoi Sakuraba flow through you!!
WOW! You mentioned the elemental weakness and rainbow kills! This is really deep knowledge of the game!
I figured this out back in 2001 on my own, when the Internet was not very developed. I felt like a genius xDDD
To be honest you probably were back then! It took me until maybe 2013 to figure out about the punctuation. Rainbow kills were also something that felt like an accident every time 😂
Time for a replay.
Yeeeeeeeeeeees!!! In the words of Palpetine, Do It!
Perfect timing . My Rg35xx is coming and I wanna try this game .
I’m glad you enjoyed! You’ll have to let me know what you think of the RG35xx. I’m not a clone console guy myself, but I can appreciate what they help achieve!
@@chocoboseit’s the plus version that just came out . Garlic os isn’t out for it yet so it’s just the stock os. But seems cool .
Dude where’s the plaza . I’m stuck at that part :(
Run north from Isaac’s house, cross the bridge to the west, then try to work your way south!
I love this so much ❤❤❤❤
I’m glad :) hopefully you found something new to make playing the game even better!
Ive played these games every few years for the past 20. I didnt know half these tips. I couldnt afford the guidebook at 10 lol
Hey, none of us could 🥲 tbh there was really only one “guide book” for Golden Sun at that time, and it was one of four walkthroughs included in a Nintendo Power Advance (Volume 3, Fall 2001 if you’re interested). It was an… okay walkthrough. Didn’t have any of this info though!
#0
Just a pet peeve you're free to dismiss, but I think the "Psy" part of Psynergy would make it sound the same as saying any other word in the English language that starts with "Psy" :^)
So my like Psychic vs “Synergy”? I’m not opposed to that pronunciation :)
@@chocobose if memory serves it is called psynergy because it is psychic energy so a hard I sound should be the correct pronounciation.
Great video btw. Love the golden sun trilogy and have been dying for a 4th for years.
Your Ivan might be always dead because you put him in the center. Put him an Mia to the side so AoE attacks will be weaker for them.
I won’t lie, I never remember that I can do this until I play TLA and I can reorganize my entire party 🫠
They should have put different colors for his effective attacks. How the hell would we know with exclamation marks?!
A LOT of trial and error, and a tiny (and I cannot express how small) amount of adhd 🫠
The thumbnail has… a beta/pre-release screenshot?
It does? 👀
6:45 Ivan stay dead! TRUE
HAS LIKE NEGATIVE DEFENSE
I never knew about rainbow kills and the punctuation.
Dievan always gets the Turtle Boots early on in my games. Just to help give that poor boy SOMETHING 😂
2023!?
… where did I say 2023 again? 😂