Meaning of Life | Manolis Kellis and Lex Fridman
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Manolis Kellis is a professor at MIT and head of the MIT Computational Biology Group. He is interested in understanding the human genome from a computational, evolutionary, biological, and other cross-disciplinary perspectives.
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The Professor articulates thoughts so beautifully. They are profound. Thank you for sharing a sneak peek, Lex.
No sneak peek??? It’s all on TH-cam...And believe it or not..It’s free!!! Holy cow!
I wish more people would take a little time out to listen to conversations like these .
What a badass convo, very thought provoking and relatable. I have a 1 year old baby girl, and I love watching her discover the world. She’s my greatest blessing.
Perhaps one of the most complete answers to a question that defies a complete answer. It is such an honor to get a glimpse into the world of such a remarkable human being. Thank you so much Lex for these conversations.
Hey Lex, I just want to say that you are cultivating something special here. Your podcast feels a lot like Joe Rogan’s show did a few years ago. He’s still killing it, but your wonder and enjoyment really shines during these interviews, and you are still only getting guests that really interest you. Congratulations on creating such a great project, in this podcast.
I am extremely moved by professor Kellis's talk. He has put into words the feelings that I have had for most of my life but didn't now how to transform these feelings into words.
The meaning of life the whole purpose is to be useful. If that is the reason we are here it is sad that millions of people in developed countries have had their usefulness taken away from them and are living in tents of sleeping in bank entrances and slowly waiting for death to relieve them of their misery. When I was a real estate salesman I took pride in specializing in selling starter homes. I took great pride and pleasure in helping them to own a home and even more they could afford owning a home because their mortgage and taxes were less than the rent they were paying.
I am truly grateful for the ability to do something I deemed to be very useful and that would allow so many families to have their dreams come to life.
🌎The Meaning of Life is to Give Life Meaning 💯 Spread Love & Open Your Heart Toward The Energy of The Universe🔥
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Facts.
@@lovevibes4008 🙏💯
“The meaning of life is to give life meaning” damn bruh I’ve never heard such an interesting, and beautiful response ever. So soothing❤️
God I love this dudes energy.
Add gratefulness to every cell in your body and you nailed it.
Seems like inherent optimism bias and terror management theory will always help regardless of ideologies such as antinatalism based on consent and efilism.
Coming back 3 years later, I was in a bit of a panic and this video moved me like I couldn't believe.
Beautifully put.
Really refreshing take. Thank you profesor.
This video is probably the best one I've seen regarding this subject! Prof. Kellis mentioned so many important questions about the issue and actually listed searching for the meaning of life/existence as a possible purpose of humanity - something I've been contemplating for a while now. For me, this is the most appropriate answer, since we cannot provide a definite answer /proof/ to the question, we should perhaps focus on making it possible for our species to become able to do that in the (near) future. We might even need to transcend our capabilities using genetic modification/artificial intelligence/natural evolutionary processes, since our current hardware might be incapable of solving the problem or, like the 42 example, comprehending the answer and its implications. Accepting our individual & collective incapability of tackling this most important problem, should be the reason for us to 'become one', advance science further and achieve a better societal structure (so that human brain power is not wasted on trivial tasks). Many thanks for this outstanding video!
The meaning of life is to love and be loved💚💙
FACT ❤❤❤❤
Excellent !!! Congratulations.
I love this Manolis Kellis guy, absolutely great content ,I loved it so much.
It’s like the language hes speaking is poetry.
Most excellent interaction
What a brilliant answer to the meaning of life coming from a great mind like his. Thanks for this clip and I am looking forward to watch the whole podcast. Thanks Lex for creating intellectually stimulating channel like yours ♥
This might be the best clip ever. There should be many more views!
He seems one of the great ones. Nice clip.
I’m 24, but if I was asked this question. I would say , the more you understand the meaning, the closer you get the ending of it.
Especially if you live in a coutry in which people life meaning is consumerism
This was my favorite episode and not just because of my bias as a Greek. Awesome.
Greece was the cradle of civilisation..with all these scientists it is out of this world.just imagine if the had not been destroyed where would be now.,????
How elegant ✨
Beautiful Theres is Still Humanity Amongst us👏🌟💚
Love him.
the meaning of life- its a complicated game, when the answer is discovered the simulation ends.
good one
answer is already discovered in ancient scriptures, like vedanta philosophy
best answer so far :D
Ding⚡1 #42 -- so beautifully said.
In these times, I needed to hear this. Hope!
my life is simple when I start my business too much struggle lots of pain I suffer myself but never give up that time my business never collapse so to be continue I build and I care my business with love and happiness.
His answer is similar to every answer on this subject. It is complex and it never fits the equation for all of us. Lex has many professional people on his program. It is time to interview a few of the everyday people who have contemplated this question.
Soooo danmmm gooood!!😊.... I felt that one🤙😁😍🥰✨👏👏👏👍👍
Meaning of life: Love
Not a very exciting answer for a scientist but there you go
Found that out through meditation on shrooms. Anything that doesn’t have to do with love seemed so crazy to me
Lex 'I've got a funeral to attend' Fridman.
Lex "Reservoir Dogs" Fridman.
wow...become one (in III)...very cool :) thanks for sharing
3:05 😮
I have been struggling for the meaning of life like you. I can say what it is now that I have reached 50 which is the age of figuring out the will of God. It's a mission. Surely it is. It's a connection. It's a sympathy. It's out of me. It's out of conciousness. It's to get to the Intelligence. I think it's a true freedom.
Thanks for the beautiful answer. I agree with so many of the thoughts that your answer evokes. I slightly disagree on the 'mission' part, as it focuses on the destination, not the journey. I agree with connection, with sympathy (sym=together, pathos=suffering, sympathy=sharing emotions with others), with consciousness (con=together, scious=knowing, to know together, to synthesize, to bring together), intelligence (inter=between, leger=read/learn, make connections). I also love you bringing up freedom. The concept of overcoming your earthly wants and needs, and freeing yourself from constraints). So much to learn from your comment, thank you for sharing!
Wow! That’s all I got.
Yaso re belé !
I’m on lsd’s, and always have this question.
The meaning of life is how we live in this world will determine what kind of a world we will in afterlife. Trust me on this.
There’s an afterlife?!!
@@bigsquid2020 Yes, there is an afterlife.
There are all kinds of parents and children. Some are wonderful, others not so.
In summary, life itself.
Why no one ask what is the meaning of death, I think it also deserves questioning.
There isn't enough room on the planet to live and evole without death...
Death is part of life, so kind of the same question.
Lex: "What's the meaning of life?"
Kellis: "Symposium" means drinking party"
Lex: "I said the meaning of life, not symposium"
Life is beautiful because of its mysteries.
If AI were to discover all of our mysteries. Would our lives become ugly?
I most probably believe that love is like entropy@lexfridman
My 42 nd too
Can we define the meaning of life for everything organic but not our own.
Could you please have that dude weekly on your podcast ?
6am to 7pm has been exhilarating to me.
Wow. I was useful.
The intellectual pleasure I get from a day of exhaustion. There is a certain pleasure from being useful.
The meaning of life is to realize God (whoever and whatever he/she is for you) while here on Earth.
2:08
Hmmm, doesn't pondering the meaning life necessarily imply a creator of sorts? It seems to contradict the position that there is no intelligent design implied earlier in the episode? Thanks, love you Lex
An emerging property of our phenomenal brains is the quest for meaning. And finding meaning can be achieved in many ways. For some, it will be through a creator / God / higher-being. For others, it might be an internal search for understanding (of ourselves, of others, of the world and universe around us). For others, a self-peace, mastering one's wants and desires, and becoming one with our untameable brain. You don't need to believe in a creator to find meaning. It could just be "figuring it out".
@@ManolisKellis1 yo
@@ManolisKellis1 Thank you.... I wonder if this emerging property is an evolutionary trait for survival? Or, is it a by-product of becoming self-aware? Sometimes I think our species is a self generating biological experiment that's become self-aware, just like people worry about with the AI. I like your brain!!!
@@neftysturd I think self-awareness comes from our complex social structures, wherein compassion plays a huge role, i.e. the ability to put ourselves in the shoes of someone else, infer their emotional state, guess what their next action, or future action, and most of all their next thought, and future thoughts might be. This is hugely advantageous when building coalitions in complex social structures, where betrayal, loyalty, trust, and distrust can make the difference between life vs. death, victory vs. defeat, gain vs. loss of territory/food/mating partners, etc. And with the ability to infer the state of another person, comes the ability to self-reflect on our mental state, gauge our own emotions, motivations, wants, needs, desires, aspirations, role in the social structure, and perhaps purpose in life ;-)
Creation and Connection.
#ReplicatedIntelligence
The meaning of life is the maximization of cumulate rewards in the nervous system.
buymebluepills why?
You're two very nice men! For me, my view is, be the best you that you can be! Whether you're a fly or a carrot or a fish or a a human, your life is about you! Sounds selfish but, it's not. It's the opposite. For me, there in (lies) the problem! Be the best fly, fish, carrot, human that you can be and it'll all work out!
One of the interpretations of "Become One" :-)
F*****
Fridman my apologies!
F****d my apologies! I'm Irish:-)
The meaning of life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the women.
That dudes beautiful, Lex!
Holy f who is this guy :)
In other words... Be you!
Link to life symposium : th-cam.com/video/ajlDioK-H6U/w-d-xo.html
Human are drones and just dont realize it. We are tools to build the next AI.
MANOLIS, HOW WOULD THE MEANING OF LIFE BE DIFFERENT IF GOD DID NOT EXIST?
Gratitude, appreciation, kindness, altruism, emotional depth, maturity, these are all components of humanity deep-rooted in the core of our existence. These do not require interventional miracles in one's lifetime, simply the recognition that each day we live is a miracle.
@@ManolisKellis1 THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY. I AM GLAD TO SEE YOU FEEL VERY POSITIVE ABOUT LIFE.
MOST PEOPLE FEEL LIFE IS MEANINGLESS WITHOUT GOD. I STOPPED BELIEVING IN GOD AT A VERY YOUNG AGE
WHICH HAS ALWAYS MADE ME FEEL LIBERATED AND HAPPY. I SALUTE YOU.
Yes, it was beautiful, but I do disagree that the only way to experience that is through having your own children. That's not necessarily so.
By the way, I also like the "become one" interpretation. There's also the "Infinity" interpretation that tells us that discovery and mathematics is boundless.
However, I disagree that we humans are so special that we're the only species worried about the meaning of life. That's a strong claim for which I'd need more evidence (and a clear definition of the question to begin with!).
@@RezaRob3 Copy-pasting here my answer to Brad S: "Searching for meaning requires massive amounts of introspection. Most animals fail the "mirror self-recognition" test, let alone thinking about thinking, thinking about the universe, the bigger picture, the meaning of life, etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test I'm of course open to the possibility, but all current evidence suggests we're the only species wondering about abstract concepts, virtue, truth, fate, and certainly the meaning of life. Happy to be proven wrong.
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@@ManolisKellis1 thank you so much for your kind reply. A couple of examples that come to mind are the intelligence of crows and a well known National Geographic (I think) video clip of a leopard rescuing and caring, like a mother, for the baby baboon born immediately after the leopard killed it's mother.
I think in these cases, the onus would be on you to convince me that these animals are doing something other than what it appears to be. I'm certainly interested in alternate explanations, certainly if they're based on solid scientific arguments.
In the Leopard's case, it clearly seems like a sense of justice, caring, compassion, remorse, and pity over the Injustice and despair and cruelty of life. That leopard cares for the baby baboon, apparently for hours until it dies.
For crows, the problem solving that they engage in is very interesting to me, given their particularly small bird brains. And I also heard, in a documentary, that they're the only bird that flies _towards_ a gun shot sound, because they want a piece of the hunt, it was claimed (I've never seen this conclusively documented though myself, but I assume it's probably true).
Regarding the mirror test, the picture that Wikipedia gives is not at all clear cut, and a wide range of responses from different animals are described. The crow result surprises me, however, here is a more recent paper, November 2019, "Self-recognition in corvids: evidence from the mirror-mark test in Indian house crows (Corvus splendens)" by Amaan Buniyaadi et al. which reports a positive result for Indian house crows.
I've also had a very personal experience that I'll never forget. My friend had chickens and a big rooster jumped over the fence to go to the other side. I grabbed him and threw him back on the ground. I'll never forget how that rooster looked at me. If any human looked at me with such posture and facial expression, I'd have interpreted it as extreme anger over the injustice and violation that I committed upon him and his right to be free. Now that may not be conclusive evidence, but we frequently interact with humans on such emotional basis as well.
Notice that we're talking about characteristics and not degrees. Certainly, a crow isn't as intelligent as a smart human! Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to the day when we don't treat animals as we do today. Working on those meatless or grown-meat options is important.
@@RezaRob3 In another part of the video, we do talk about sensors for love, and i bring up the example of dogs making the sensors go off-scale. I have absolutely no doubt that dogs experience true love towards humans. I'm sure it's a genuine feeling of attachment, care, compassion for their human partners, wanting to do good for us, and wanting our affection. They've been evolutionarily-selected and bred for these emotions. Love and care are not uniquely human. And yes, beyond dogs, that are really off-scale, many other animals demonstrate examples of compassion, caring for the weak, protecting the young, etc. Both humans and animals have been shaped by evolutionary forces that make us care of the young, and this love and care often transcends species boundaries. There's something about the ratio of head-to-body and eyes-to-face that we find irresistible, and there's no doubt in my view that there's evolutionarily hard-wired triggers there that make us go "Ooohhhwww" each time we see a helpless baby of any species, and the same forces that shaped humans shaped countless animals' compassion before us. However, as full of love and compassion as these animals are, i have no doubt that our dogs panting next us in heavily bliss are pretty stupid by comparison to any adult human, have extremely superficial thoughts and dreams, have never wondered about the meaning of life. As for intelligent animal behaviors, yes, there are selective pressures shaping those to a certain extent, and many of these behaviors take a certain amount of reasoning. However, selection has never pushed any animal to the level of cognitive capacity, social structure complexity, language expressiveness, abstract thought and reasoning, and so many more cognitive capacities that are pre-requisites for deep introspection, self-reflection, and looking for a deeper meaning in life. So I stand firm in believing, that despite emotional connections, genuine caring, and intelligent behaviors, we are unique in the animal kingdom in wondering about the meaning of life
@@ManolisKellis1 thanks for your comment. I certainly have never seen evidence of reasoning in dogs, of the sort we see in humans! However my original two objections remain: one is that the "meaning of life" widely varies among humans and is an ill defined phrase that needs precise clarification before anything solid can be said about it, and the second is that I'm not yet convinced that other animals don't partially share this characteristic insofar as they experience other capabilities like love and intelligence to a certain extent. We certainly agree that humans are quite exceptional in the level of complexity of their abstract thoughts and communications!
Literal translation upon old sun alphabet translation of 1.. it start with word we know bio .Bio order with your soul to be not separated from the earth to know what the world is full .(Earth ) 2 (air ) ,3 Fire which is connected with the Creator it doesn’t say God it says Creator . 4 .(air )5. (Water ) this is letter explanation with numbers it gives 95 -14 -5 . 5 means a change could happen according bio which means itself living life .Then rest is the Human to understand and create . Pretty this is the translation of the word Life as noun and living as action 🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
I can do math too. Why 42? 366 days minus 42 is 324 so 3 and 2 and 4 are 9. The same way with seconds or minutes. After those operations still the same number which is 9. Interesting, but do you understand why 42 follows 9?
I know someone that is extremely quilaified to answer this question, message me if your curious. Though what this guy says is very profound.
What is it?
God? He is teaching his kids about a God?
The concept of a universal truth, a deeper order to the universe, a deeper meaning to Life, is something that children will initially perhaps equate to "God", but eventually, as their cortex expands and more neuronal connections / more sophisticated concepts are formed, will eventually be split up into subtler concepts that do not require an old-fashioned (Biblical or other) God of scriptures, but instead concepts that they can then elucidate for themselves. It's at least my current philosophy, of embracing the concept of the divine (without any of the interventional stuff) and teaching them how to be grateful for their countless gifts, and generous towards others. "God" is an abbreviation. A simple concept children understand. I expect countless conversations as they grow up, where we dissect it out, and i learn from them as much as they might learn from me.
Do you believe we move on to wherever it may be after we die or that it all stops for us with no answers?
If you don't know and celebrate your binary birthday number you are Not a true geek!!🎂🍨🧁🍦🦪🦑
Let me give you an answer too. If you are really serious about that. Build a great time in the boundless space.
Can you elaborate on ‘build a great time in the boundless space’ it’s sounds poetic but my mind can’t comprehend what this means
Omg...its a stupid question.
There is no meaning only purpose.
You give it meaning
Smh
There's no meaning of life. We, humans, are so arrogant. "If I'm here I must have a higher purpose. God put me here. The universe has a plan for me". We're ants! We're monkeys. We're nothing but an evolution of cells. There's no meaning of life.
Now let's ask interesting questions:
- How can I live a meaningful life full of purpose?
- How do I feel about the fact that I won't exist in a few years?
- How can we survive as species?
Manolis Kellis may be right that the human being is a very special and rare being for the transformation of the environment in the physical world. There can be are many strange psychedelic experiences and dreams. They have maybe been there potentially in the environment for billions of years, but if they are there they can be gone if no one captures them. Maybe the human can search out, remember some of the most important and use them. Like searching finding and recognizing the rare and valuable gems or structures of intuition and knowledge and use them for growth in the physical world?
But unfortunately the professor is maybe to scared to say that evolution can have en element of intelligent design except in private maybe?
According to some is is God who knits the influences of many realms who intersect with the physical world together. The research in what these intelligences are could be be a very fruitful research, but will it give a technological power which will in the wrong hands destroy the world because humanity is not ready yet? If not there is probably no reason not to go there I think?
He may have something about the meaning of life.
These brainiacs crack me up! You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know the meaning of life. Just got to be willing to accept Nature's law. We're here for procreation breeding that's it. we're not that special. We're just animals that can walk upright and carry food. long distances and we took of language that's it. We're not that special.
"Hey I know this guy is a renowned scientist but I'm pretty sure my hot take, as a nobody, on the meaning of life is deserving of some internet fame. Let me type away".
Thank you god? No thanks.
The moment i see someone worship god, i lose interest and respect for them faster than the speed of light!
Your life must suck
Manolis Kellis talks so passionately and such sensitivity about his kids ...and yet he poisons his children's naivete with the mention of god. Unbelievable!
I was similarly "poisoned" as a kid, with an extremely philosophical, well-read, and spiritual mother, and an extremely practical, scientific, and engineer father, and yet somehow i never let faith interfere with science. I used science and math to understand the outside world, and i used faith and spirituality to understand my inner self. My children are living and breathing science, evolution, math, biology, physics, and they understand the physical world better than many adults. For the philosophical realm however, of making sense of our existence, searching for deeper truths, exploring our inner self, learning to tame our emotional spectrum, the conversation needs to start somewhere. My current parenting philosophy is that children already have a concept for God from a very early age. It's a very simple concept of an all-powerful and magical "superman", which i find very silly, and i have used the exact words "God isn't superman" early one, well before i had ever brought up God in any conversation. They are exposed to the concept through their friends, their books, the adults they interact with. Simply destroying that concept is premature, and will make them vulnerable to false prophets and alternate "Gods". Instead, I'm embracing what they have already, but helping them make it more abstract, less precisely defined, and allowing them to shape the concept as they grow up, enabling it to become more complex, more sophisticated, as their brains expand, and as concepts within them become more elaborate. Having the concept of "God", as a shorthand for fate/chance, the universe conspiring, a deeper truth/meaning, gives them a handle for shaping their spiritual understanding, and deciding for themselves where they sit on that spectrum. Right now, they're still looking for meaning in everything. At the end of every folks tale (παραμύθι) that we read nightly, they're asking "so what was the lesson". I'm at the stage where i tell them that sometimes, there is no lesson, sometimes, the world is not fair, sometimes, things don't make sense, and that's okay too. So yes, i'm embracing the concept, with the hope that they'll shape it into something much more subtle, but we have to start somewhere. A simple "God is a figment of early human's imagination" doesn't strike me as a great conversation starter. What word would you use instead to thank the universe for the gifts you have been given, and who would you ask for strength to be a better person, to be more generous? And when i ask them, "What are these gifts?", they say "my family, my friends, my home, the world around us, the trees, the air we breathe", etc. I'd love to have another shorthand that's more vague than "Thank you God, and please give me strength".
@@ManolisKellis1 based
@@ManolisKellis1 Thanks for taking the time and for your detailed response!
@@ManolisKellis1 Well said!
I watched many people talk about the meaning of life, and this one is the only one dumber than me ,