Jesus and psychedelics in ancient times | Brian Muraresku and Lex Fridman
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Mushrooms did wonders in my life. I could remember several years ago after divorce with my wife which brought me into my disastrous journey on Alcohol and cigarettes. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
YES very sure of Dr.benfungi. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
I would like to know from those who have solved PTSD and anxiety, if they have solved it definitively and how to understand what quantity of psilocybin to take and when, for how long. And can you really heal without having an addiction?
Thanks to everyone for helping me understand, I want to understand if it's
something that can help me solve the problem (I have c-ptsd)
From my experience it really works excellently! It doesnt even need to be a full hit. With potent shrooms 2-3 small ones will still make a clear difference. It will be a few hour cosy rumbling moment around rest time, but afterwards its just calm and you feel amazing and gain your freedom. Psilocybin is different dudes, its the only "treatment" I would recommend to someone who genuinely wants to get better. There is no addiction, withdrawal, or negative side effects. It's just pure healing., far more effective than any anti-depressant. You can thank me later
If Lex and Ben Shapiro had a baby, it would speak at a normal speed.
The best hot take ever
You must be from the south
😂
You won the internet for me today!
@@ianpyle6670 Oklahoma.
All of Lex’s guests are extremely knowledgeable in their own craft. But, Brian’s range of knowledge of language is mind blowing. Super cool.
Even more impressive with Brian is how he can accurately pronounce words in all those languages. I heard him pronounce in Arabic and had to confirm if he has an arab ancestry
Amazing
Jordan Peterson interviewed this geezer a year ago
I need help honestly ik Jesus is real cause predictions , and celebrities selling their soul but I need to know the real truth I have been studying and this sounds legit but we’ll find out one day
His knowledge on language and its interaction with the New Testament is actually weak. He says the NT doesn't reference the word alcohol, which is because it references "wine" which he acknowledges later.
The word he is interpreting as "drug" is only used in a negative context in the NT. In other words "dont do it".
Further, Jesus spoke Aramaic and was confined to Second Temple Judaism under Roman rule. His story was eventually translated into Greek for new converts. But to look at his Jewish life under Roman rule through a Greek Dionysian lense is a massive mistake.
These are just some of the reasons scholars widely reject these theories that remain dead in Biblical scholarship but alive in public imagination.
I haven't heard anyone talk about the syrian rue "esfrand tea" and acacia teas thats are still used in the middle east today. The consumption of the 2 together will produce effects of ayahuasca. It seems more than coincidence that the art and architecture inside of a mosque is an imitation of the dmt relm..
@@samsungtelevision695 acacia gum is a good reference to check out..I can't find the ref to teas atm
@@solshine41 ok thanks for replying. It you do stumble across it and could reply here some day I’d appreciate it. Very interested in any psychedelics available in ancient times outside of the americas
Exactly! The DMT released from the smoke of the Desert Acacia was the source of Moses’ visions at the burning bush! The desert acacia wood was revered as so holy, it was used for the Ark of the Covenant.
I have used syrian rue to make dmt its perfect
The architecture, the stained glass windows, big choirs/orchestras.. Imagine living your life as it would be in ancient times without as much to stimulate your senses, and getting to go to one of these Mosques or Churches to drink the body of Christ (or whatever means they had to make you trip). Seeing these massive architectural geometric shapes surrounding you covered in paintings and murals, this neon-glow-like colourful lighting radiating all around you, and the sounds of choirs filling a massive hall, all while feeling like you're in an alternate dimension.
From my experience/experimentation, I believe psychedelics/mediation/sound frequencies breaks down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness......
One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else.......
""""" Hey we've been waiting for you....... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us""""
3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredibly sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior.
I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway.
Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonautics out there.......
The fungus, even in micro amounts, always makes me more aware of an I ln visibile, or spiritual all around us, but not visible with our eyesight. Just a intuition or it makes me ponder these ideas far more than normal with our being sad of those past or any fear.
Idk if i am to believe you are it's all cap
@@yodaedits416 I don't care whether you do or not. I wouldn't have wrote it if it weren't true.....
@@WSmith_1984 I dont mean it in a judgmental way, because this is profound information.
@@yodaedits416 I hear you..... and like I said, whether you believe it or not, it does not change the fact that I did in fact experience this..... this wasn't the only thing as well......
I was staying at a b and b at the time, there's was a guy who stayed there that I rarely spoke with as I didn't really like his character..... but while there, I was being shown a motorbike in the visions, two days after this experience a man pulled up to deliver 2 motorbikes to the guy who was staying at the b and b...... again if I didn't experience this, I would not be sharing this information.
Peace, power and freedom to you and yours.
I like how the hoodie gives the feeling of a monk.
4:51 The book "the master and his emissary" really highlights this atomistic way of thinking.
Terence McKenna's Food of the Gods a very well written look at psychedelics through history. A brilliant and humble guy, Terence.
RIP
Just finished the audiobook. Fascinating stuff.
@@tedgunderson67 can one be humble and pretentious at times? He was kinda showy at times, but that could have been excitement and that ignorance all humans suffer from in some manner. I felt the same reading the comment, but sitting here high got me pondering. Perception is a mofo...
@@tedgunderson67 Intriguing that you've come to hold such a view of Terence. I listen to his talks a lot and to me, he appears mostly as quite humble. He even repeatedly makes it a point that he is just an ordinary person who has experienced extraordinary things, and often makes fun of himself. I think he can come across as intimidating to some because of his enormous active vocabulary, but that's by no means pretentiousness, he was just a sincere lover of words and phrases and let it show.
@@tedgunderson67 I appreciate your balanced response 👏
"The Lord's Prayer" in Aramaic is absolutely psychedelic... "that which vibrates everything in sound and light."
Not sure where you're getting these words from?
Everything we see or touch is just sound and light (I still have a hard time believing it though.) Where can I find the information you mentioned?
@Oliver Abbot I'm interested, and would like to know more. Where did you get the information? I had always taken the Lord's Prayer mostly literally. Thank you 🙏
@Oliver Abbot Thank you, Oliver, for taking the time to explain that so well. I appreciate it ❣️
Give me a freakin’ break. What? Sorcery friend. Careful. Oh yeah. Bad stuff. Been down that road. Do a U turn while you still can.
Awesome insight in research... offering further contemplation Thank you! 💫🙏
Good closing quote. We, as a society, may access fantastical visions with drugs, but mystical experience can and has always been access with not much more than, meditation, prayer, and sometimes ritual. It’s what substance is made in the theater of the soul, not what substance to take to visit the theater.
I do not understand why they are talking about wine and belief and things that happened in a supernatural way, I mean the Bible advise even to avoid drunk people, not only not drinking wine. Are they trying to infer that the supernatural is actually a bunch of drunkards?
@@AgainstThisWorld I don’t know. But often we project: “I took a substance and saw wheels within wheels, therefore the prophets who saw wheels within wheels *must’ve* taken the same substance also.”
@@AgainstThisWorld Jesus literally turned water into wine and often was integral in people getting hammered
Caterpillars, sharing tall tales of flight. For the people who want to understand the flight of butterflies, know two things:
1) A caterpillar can do nothing to know flight, except give up their caterpillar life.
2) Once a butterfly, you'll be a heretic to the caterpillars, and their tales will no longer move you.
So if you value community over truth, it's better to join the choir and start preaching, like Neander here. You won't know what you're talking about, and you'll have to shut your eyes to not see this. Choose wisely and with courage. (There's also the path of solitude, where you admit your ignorance to yourself and others. You'll still be a caterpillar, but not one full of bs.)
@@matteyas in your anti-preaching sermon, you made it sound like all people who have not seen sublime realities without the use of drugs have opted for a diluted truth, and that all choirs are blind. I’ve had the “courage” to try various methods, but it took more courage and will to listen to the desert poets and follow their path past the noise of pseudo-enlightened taunts.
1st century Jews like Jesus and his disciples would have avoided any practices that give the appearance of pagan worship. Certainly Paul who was a student of Gamaliel wouldn't have put up with it. When Paul tells the church in Corinth that women should be quiet, it is likely because the church was starting to appear like Corinth's temple to Athena. If Paul wouldn't allow Athenian worship, I doubt he would allow Dionysian worship.
lots of I doubts and its likely and lots of ambiguous information delivered as fact.
you're trying to convince yourself unfortunately.
Christianity is a sincretism of older tradition that you call pagan.
@@andresvallelisboa5511 This may be true for “American Christianity”, but, not true for those who are “followers of the Way”.
@@ALTheFreeMan Which way?
@@andresvallelisboa5511 Followers of Christ.
Reading his book, and it is just packed with information/knowledge. Dude did his research for sure...
What’s it called?
@@aidenn4929 The Immortality Key
Fascinating to listen to this guy. If you’re in any shape or form on the path to self - improvement / discovery, his philosophies are a great puzzle piece for understanding self, and us as species collectively.
Being able to understand “objectively”, removed from egoistic judgement or interpretation through indoctrinated beliefs is of course key.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself
This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
[_James_tray]
Got psychs
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?
Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts
This was extremely insightful
I'm Greek and planning to get into Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy and I'm so excited to hear all of this😍
Υπάρχει κάπου στην Ελλάδα κάτι τέτοιο;
WARNING: A doorway to a demonic dark world.
@alexandra I’m intrigued, do you mind me asking your professional background and what the path to becoming a PAPT looks like?
I'm rooting for you, you will succeed!
@@djbass7672 Δεν εχω ιδέα, ζω στο εξωτερικό. Ολλανδία, Ελβετία, Καναδάς, ΗΠΑ είναι σιγουρα τα πιο μπροστα μερη σε αυτο. Ισως σε κανα (10?) χρονια να ερθει και στην Ελλαδα. 😛Θα ερθει βασικα καποια στιγμη σίγουρα, ίσως και πιο νωρίς.
I like how he refers to the 12 apostles as "a dozen or so, illiterate day labourers that go on to convert the empire in a few hundred years".
It’s always refreshing to hear people who are plain-spoken. Wine is just rotting grapes. Compared with mushroom wine, alcohol wine is basically just poisonous nasty grape juice.
If you read Mary's story you would see that see was mad at all the apostles because they built churches! That was not Jesus will. They messed a lots of his teaching up because of ego
@@deadhole5743 Where exactly can you read "Mary's Story"? This sounds interesting
@@marvellous9652 it's called the gospel of Mary :) you can find it online n.n
@@deadhole5743 the Gospel of Mary is non canonical and believed to have been written 200 years after Mary’s life and death. That being said i would not say that the Gospel of Mary is a good resource for seeing what Mary believes.
Nice conversation . Thanks.
Great conversation, gentlemen... I'm a sucker for this kind of info.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:17 🌿 *Psychedelics in Classical Antiquity*
- Author's 12-year search for scientific data on psychedelic ritual use in ancient Greece and Rome.
- Exploration of written works from the 60s and 70s, lacking technology and hard scientific data.
- Uncovering key pieces of data indicating ritualistic use of psychedelic beer in Iberia and psychedelic wine near Pompeii.
02:21 🍷 *Psychedelic Infused Wine in Early Christianity*
- Discussion on the potential role of psychedelic-infused wine in the life of Jesus Christ.
- Analysis of ancient Greek language and the concept of wine as a mixed potion or "pharmacon."
- Reference to early Christian texts and the use of wine as a sacrament with divine significance.
05:11 📜 *Language and Perception of Wine*
- Examination of language's impact on perception, focusing on the ancient Greek word "oinos" and "pharmacon."
- Highlighting the use of the term "pharmacy" to describe wine and its role in ancient Greek thought.
- Connection between language, perception, and the understanding of wine in religious and ritual contexts.
08:02 🌐 *Dionysus and the Mysteries*
- Exploration of the role of wine, specifically the sacramental wine, in the mysteries of Dionysus.
- Discussion on how consuming the sacramental wine was seen as becoming one with the god Dionysus.
- Insight into the ancient Greek understanding of enthusiasm, being filled with the spirit of the god.
11:45 🍇 *Jesus and Dionysus Parallel*
- Analysis of parallels between Jesus and Dionysus, emphasizing the use of symbolism and miracles.
- Reference to the Wedding at Cana in the Gospel of John and its potential connection to Dionysian rituals.
- Interpretation of the continuity from pagan traditions, like the mysteries of Dionysus, into early Christianity.
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Psychedelic beer? Yes please 🙏😍
Not funny. Seriously.
@@weedeeohguy for you.
@@weedeeohguy I mean i can see where that comes from. Like a spiked beer… would upset worlds.
If not warned.
Powerful guest. Powerful.
Great. More of this please!
Brilliant! Appreciating such scholarly chat! Thank you for sharing! WoW just WoW!
It feels amazing to know about psychedelics all thanks to this online store I was able to get some mushrooms and they got some lsd gummies cannabis xtc and another stuffs
It seems Jesus demonstrated his authority over the demonic power of Dionysus by doing the water into wine miracle.
Matthew 26:29 - I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
Lex should make his way to the magic source as soon as possible. He can be quite dull at times, but let's hope this adventure brings out his more exciting side!
Brian, thank you for your research and retained knowledge about paleoChristianity. So informative.
Anyone know how to get in touch with this guy? My dad published a book on this in 2011. He spent over 30 years compiling this research. They would have a lot to talk about.
May I ask what the name of your father's book is?
@@rickymatovu867 The Anointed Ones
Maybe try sending him a message on his social platforms??
I’m going to buy this book now, thank you
Drinking the "Blood of Dionysus" as a sacrament sound eerily familiar to Catholic's Eucharist ceremony.
amazing work
Great talk. Thanks
I loved this! Thank you both, excellent
peace.out
🇳🇴!
I listened to his JRE pod on acid staring at the sky… glad to see he’s here now 🤘🏼
So the Christian communion was a ritual where you’d drink wine mixed with psychedelics to have a collective psychedelic experience to get in touch with God. Very interesting. I wonder if they put something in the bread too. It’s interesting that Jesus’ words are “continue to do this ritual in remembrance of me.” In indigenous circles a similar type of ritual still occurs however with a different type of psychedelic base. You go to the shaman who let’s you drink from a bowl and then you have a collective psychedelic experience.
Read the psychedelic gospels. It was not bread and the wine wasn't alcohol
Great video!
If the spiked wine contained henbane or nightshade, the correct dosage would be crucial. Those are very dangerous plants.
In the Old and New Testament drunkenness and use of drugs were seriously prohibited. A sober and pure mind and physical abstinence of sexual behavior (outside of marriage) were encouraged. The Jews and early Christians had extremely high standards of moral behavior. Drinking spiked/drugged wine etc is far from their rituals or moral code that they fanatically followed.
Although this may be true, modern day priest molest little boys and other atrocities occur in religious groups. To say things were prohibited hundreds of years ago means nothing. In my opinion anything is possible when it comes to religious history.
@@Mannyr-bu7qv Yes,even today molesting children is still prohibited by every religion. Not sure your point.
In Ancient Greek theater they kept violence off-stage...if people were tripping balls that would make sense.
I think the masks would send me over the edge way before the violence lol
In the gospel from Luke, chapter one talks about a wine condition for the birth of John the Baptist. A part of the story says how this baby is to “...never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born.” All familiar wording of wine. Also within that story and chapter it does talk about visions since they say in the video of “not unpleasant visions.” May God Bless his people.
great clip
Alegro showed in his book a painting in the catacombs of Adam and Eve flanking the Tree of Knowledge which is depicted as an Amanita Muscaria mushroom.
More bullshit!
Carl Ruck deserves a shout out for that stock picture of himself.
Lol hell yeah xD
very important part i think missed here is that conversion of water into wine and wine being the blood of Jesus is a very important part of traditional christian mass. its actually the pivotal part of catholic mass, not sure about the other masses, but the idea of conversion of bread and wine into flesh and blood of christ is one of the most important secrets of christianity.
The image on the thumbnail is from an amazing song on spotify called "Clairovoyer" from "Random Lab"
Of COURSE it’s impossible to understand the New Testament without the background of Greek antiquity. That’s why we have actual scholars. You compare the literature or you’ll never understand the literature. I wish more people were with it (I’m talking about Christians and also about people bent on looking up a verse to disprove the Bible).
You don't need anything to disprovethe bible, it disproves itself.
@@aeriagloris4211 In what ways exactly?
I want psychedelics become legalized and readily available, as an artist there are limitless possibilities. I’m in favor of movie theaters or playhouses that encourage the audience to trip while watching
Might not be the best idea 😂😂😂
What a beautiful soul sharing
Very interesting
Turning water into wine is suddenly a high functioning metaphor. Now if we can just get a few extra baskets of fish sticks and hush puppies for the munchies.
@@Novastar.SaberCombat I’m a fan of the idea that things are real. No supernatural and no magic potions.
Water into wine would have meant bs into reality and is something terrestrial.
Many people today turn wine into water.
Imagine Jesus was just some bloke who knew couple of tricks, one day he turns water into wine and kicks off the whole Christianity thing :D
Funny af tho
Just a simpleton like me and his opinion is that psychedelics played a very large role in religion in general and if it wasn't for mushrooms and psychedelics some religions wouldn't even be in play
Agreed
I agree
Spot on Gary s
I love Lex !!
I’m upset the topic was changed after madness was described as a state of mind. There’s so much to dig into there. Consuming divinity essentially was someone becoming an archetype and madness is a very powerful example of that
If you're interested in this subject specifically, madness, you should pick up a very special book called Jonathan strange & Mr norrell.
Why are the early disciples always mentioned as illiterate, that’s simply untrue.
they were simple fishermen or laborers. no one who held jobs like that spent any time being educated. they learned from their fathers. illiterate sounds bad but it just means certain things haven't been shown to you yet, doesn't mean you wouldn't understand it
Matthew was a Publican, a tax collector. Hardly an illiterate man and the author of one of the gospels.
@@johnwheeler1733 most were literate because of the Torah. Matthew was a tax collector, hard to be one when illiterate. Bartholomew was a scholar and had royal blood, royal family was almost always literate.
Interestingly in Eleusis wine was prohibited (in fact by Demetra herself) whether οινος or pharmakon. So ancient Greeks called wine Oinos and not pharmakon. Instead of the word pharmakon they used the word krama to mean wine mixed with water. So oinos is pure wine. Krama it is mixed with water. Pharmakon must be used later and closer to the Christian era. Madness is not what you are describing. It is overwhelming inspiration. Homer himself comes to such a stage. But he was not under psychedelics. You are sort of equalizing terms and effects and although it is an interesting video, you are misleading. They also would not drink the blood of Dionysos. Wine was not his blood but his essence. He was the wine and this is also why Christ appears as the "vine".
Nicely put. Thanks for the clarification. As usual, people see what they want to see - hear what they want to hear.
How do you know that he was not on drugs? Regardless of that specific instance, there's no point in discussing linguistics any longer. We know they were on drugs:
"Ancient wine was frequently combined with other substances, including what we would today call “recreational drugs.” The surviving textual record offers ample proof of this but, as classicist Carl A. P. Ruck and a handful of others discovered, purely textual evidence was easy to dismiss or, worse, simply ignore. Now, however, the latest techniques of archeological analysis have *confirmed the presence of other intoxicants in Greek wine,* to the point it is simply incontrovertible."
Sorry, you are incorrect. You don't know what you're talking about
Oh my God, that's an amazing take! It totally makes sense😮.
Lex, please, do a podcast with John Pilger!!!
interesting how you constantly talk about the greek translations of the gospels but never about the aramaic texts that predate the greek texts
The original language of the New Testament is Greek.
Advertisements for psychedelic beer were found around early Christian times, the Sator square.
Tenet?
Can I get some more details on that? Psychedelic beer is calling me
@@samsungtelevision695 SATOR
AREPO
TENET
OPERA
ROTAS
Found on early Christian churches, but many think it is older.
I'm confused about the "the bacchanal of the andrians" painting. Where is the river of wine?
Lex for president!
I wonder if these were mixed with wine in such prevalence because they worked in conjunction with the psychedelics and/or because the fermentation process would sanitize water making it much safer in that time.
The official anthropological explanation is the later, plus it made it nutritious at the same time. Regardless, animals in general, not just humans, have been getting drunk on fermented fruit for EVER.
You gotta have Steven Bancarz on now
Anyone see the striking resemblance at 8:50 of the wine glass Dionysus is holding and an Amanita Muscaria mushroom in the upturned stage of its life? Maybe that's a cryptic clue linking the god of wine with the god of drugs/psychedelics...
What is his hair doing?
Didn't the ancient Egyptian's get there first with Blue Lotus wine?
A Christian isn't surprised when echoes of Dionysus appear in the Christian story. Same with Apollo, Zeus, Hermes, Athena, or whomever. The whole point of Christ is that He is All in All. While these Greek deities each highlight a particular human strength, Christ is the fulfillment of all good things.
@Marty McK Will do
It battles today. Some people work where they like as they are best at what they do they also enjoy doing it. Then you have people hating their job but its good pay so they continue to do it even if they suck its the money they get.. seems like this problem has been around even back then. 😅😂 can correlate that individualism and centralism able to do all hating it and decentralism where if you are good at that do that dont do what you suck and hate.
@@moonman6113 your reply makes absolutely no sense given the context of the original post you were responding to ... It's incoherent, meandering, seemingly off topic, and I'm loving every bit of it. 😂
More like an alien with higher levels of consciousness and spirituality.
Of course a christian shouldnt be surprised by this. After all, the christian story is just a combination of other religions especially greek and egyptian. The story, the mysteries, almost everything actually has been found on text long before christ.
Lion's Mane Mushroom extract. What do you know about this mushroom and have you heard of it's cognitive benefits, among other miraculous-seeming other anecdotes?
"escaping a life of suffering" Thumbs up. Give me the wine!
I think that argument for psychedelic Christianity is missing larger context, and description of early Christians themselves.
Indeed they did fall into trance and it is described explicitly in Acts and by Paul BUT you do not have to use wine for it.
Remember that wine mixed with water was likely a common drink like just a water today, since it was not as likely to spread infection.
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We are looking at the wrong paintings of Jesus
@@DC-lf5po the docu a watched on davinchi said he painted Jesus the way of what his lover looked like but of course the Catholic Church doesn’t like gay even tho look at their own news... plus my dads middle eastern and very dark not this olive tan Italian
You should look into Soma and cannabis. The eucharist is practically Soma
Excellent
I heard Mary Magdalene had the cleanest acid in Jerusalem.
I would like you to fact check the translation of the Greek “wine” in the New Testament as pharmacon. Because in Galatians Paul speaks of the works of the flesh and pharmacon also known as sorcery or witchcraft, was prohibited by the church and was considered a sin.
To not inherit the kingdom of heaven ≠ sin
“Madness is seen like a positive thing, a journey?”
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There was also the journals of the Pharisees who saw Jesus to his death. They never even denied the miracles he was performing, but instead talking about them and saying it was the work of the devil.
Sources?
@@Percules15 Josephus is a good place to start.
Connotation and denotation, etymology matters. I had the fortune of living with an Israeli family many years ago and the father loved to debate differing opinions on the bible. He often took up with a friend,of his, who was four square, I think, and invited me into the conversations one night. The four square fellow could not understand why because of his preconceived ideas of a woman's place...go figure. It gave me perspective on time(bc and up) and place(middle east) and language usage(not western connotation) from a person who was fluent in 5 languages. Super interesting conversations on Greek meanings and Hebrew translations, or visa versa if you get my drift. Idioms have always been a hobby of mine and some of the older middle eastern ones are great!
Im reading Immortality Key now. Good shit!
Lex is like the 90s Leo DiCaprio version of science 🧬
Lex please invite William Lane Craig on for the other side of this stuff. He’d love this sorta professional debate.
Yes that would be interesting!
Only one narrative allowed here.
Yes please!!!! Then you would know he isn’t just one sided and controlled media. Let the REAL CHRISTIANS SPEAK
@@Pyryp2 He proved himself as unable to have a professional debate long ago.
@@trip4923 Who?
Talking about psychedelics with Lex is like talking about sex with the Dalai Lama.
The fact alone of Jesus being born in a manger and where large herbivores where living witch psychedelic mushrooms grow in the manure of makes a pretty compelling case
Anyone tried Ketamine isomer R , rock form?
I had a weird vision of Jesus on a heroic dose. It wasn't him on a rock preaching or anything. He was on the ground moving like he was having a seizure. No one was around him. He was looking straight up which is where I observed this from and just twitched. I was told what it meant by whatever talks to you but I still don't know how to put it in words.
Pray about it my guy. Genesis 1-27 “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them”
You are but a reflection. Much love
Make that reflection what you want it to be
@@bradleyrosett2184 Thank you sir
Not surprised. Perhaps it’s not an evil dream as you may assume at first. Perhaps the meaning behind it is to tell u the muslim belief. That Jesus peace be upon him, the messiah son of Mary is no more than a prophet of god, a man from amongst us chosen by god, born from Virgin Mary. We don’t believe him to be God.
@@sule2318 God is everyone and everything to me honestly. I am not a Christian, nor a Muslim, but when thinking about the fact we are built up from the most basic materials in this universe, and the fact the universe is everything and can be considered “God” it would mean we are God, and God is us. It is more of a Buddhist way of thinking, and I tend to go towards that direction.
There was a concept of fermented wine. No historian would deny this.
Yes, he's just saying the concept of alcohol as the distinct common active ingredient in different beverages may not have been known.
@@DC-lf5po pour me a glass!
I'm pretty sure the Tabernacle was actually a hotbox.
You need to get Dr. Michael Heiser on your podcast to discuss about God and Jesus Christ.
Highly recommend reading the book "Jesus Lived in India"... I won't go into detail here because I'd have to write an essay and it would not do it justice anyhow. The author suggests that when Jesus was crucified a roman soldier soaked a sponge in some sort of vinegar or wine substance and held it to his face as that was a religious custom. As the bible says, it was at this point the holy ghost left his body he was pronounced dead. The author of the book goes on to discuss in detail how certain plants were imbued into wine and some of them would essentially cause one to go into a comatose state for multiple days and appear dead. Assuming that is what happened, Jesus was taken down from the cross while still alive. After a few days, Jesus recovered and went on to live out his life traveling and preaching throughout Asia because he was forced to flee persecution in Israel.
Highly recommend reading this book... it blew my mind.
@@DC-lf5po I certainly see your point but I also think the entire story, history, and religion surrounding Jesus and Christianity has been ruined by 2000 years of corruption, lies, and false interpretation.
@@DC-lf5po The amount of evidence that Jesus not only lived, but spent a majority of his early and later life in India is IMO undeniable. Highly recommend you read "Jesus Lived in India" with an open mind and then tell me that there's no record of his life. I think much of the record of his life has been hidden by the church as a means of manipulation. It wouldn't look to good for the Vatican if people started to realize Jesus was a preaching Buddhism.
Man, how bad do people not want Jesus to exist. The more reason to believe he does.
The reason why it is not popular is that scholars don’t agree it is correct. Fools believing this trash.
@@DC-lf5po I guess you're the enlightened one. To call Christianity is a cult? Go figure the logic.
2:18 Lex looks like a gangster whenever he does the slight lean back on his chair as he utters some words in a subtle yet suspensful manner
so how does this mesh with st. Paul specifically prohibiting pharmakeia?
Research Lotus plant in Egypt
Absinthe is what i use before rituals 😂
Absense for me during rituals!
Absinthe be a firy beast
Revelation looks like a DMT trip lol
it's too well written and crafted, not the work of someone tripped out their balls
The sacred mushroom and the cross- John marco allegro
He deserves a Nobel for this work!
He's on in$t@gram,, also on Telegr®️m
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A better translation of the word "Farmako" is the word "Medicine". In Greek we only use the word drug for very addictive substances.
In american the call medicine drugs
What doesn’t make sense is that according to this video, apparently Christians used psychedelic wine yet at the same time in the Bible were told to not partake in sorcery which is pharmakeia. I’m so lost
So mass hallucinations happen from psychedelics?
How do you come to that conclusion?
@@DvitusR Is that not the implication? That they mass-hallucinated Jesus’ resurrection?
@@PaulWallification no hahaha jesus himself barely has anything to do with it, read the book or a longer podcast, Jordan Peterson has a good one with Brian, the implication is much more complicated and profound than that.
@@DvitusR Ok, care to summarize the heart of what he’s saying/suggesting?
Word.
Is it possible for a mushroom to culture in your gut, and live symbiotlically to sustain through life?
No mushroom that I know of. Perhaps a different kind of fungus, though.