Very upset that ed boon and his team ignore the fact that quan greatlyyyyyyy struggles in the corner why can't they give his trance mind control armour
As someone who mains Quan Chi, I have thought; for a while now that Warlock was his stronger variation of the 3 but you've definitely changed my opinion. I'll have to play around more with his Summoner variation, see how well I fare with what I learned here. I subscribed. Keep up the good work!
Very good tuts my friend! I just begun in this game last night and Quan is my favorite char so far, not so easy to master but your info will help me a lot! Thank you!!
Great video! Question, has the cooldown on the bat been changed? At 0:39 you're putting bats out repeatedly and really fast, can't seem to do it on PS4 though.
Nice video bro.. Ill b practicing with quan chi.. The point of the game is to win. If someone wants to cry about it, then dont play. I like strategies like this.Youll hear the guy through the tv pissed which makes it even more fun to do.. 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌🙌🙌🙌🙌 good video bro. Keep up the good work with the videos. I'll be watching all of them.
I've been a victim of this corner loop combo online and I am sure that person must have learnt that combo from this video lol. All I can say is Quan Chi players are one nasty piece of work. Anyways, Great video!
Hey man, great video, I really enjoy warlock Quan, he's probably my "main", but I had always just messed around with summoner and didn't really know how to use the bat properly. Thanks for the tips
I always like Quan ever since MK4. Seen you play Quan is amazing will be looking forward to your other videos. Maybe do a video on how to start a combo.
God. You are making me loving this character even more than I already am. Thanks a lot for these. We have been talking a little about the Warlock variation on your stream, but I have to say the Sorcerer variation seems pointless or very specific.
Have you done any Cybernetic Kano lately? I've been playing Cutthroat the most because it's the most similar to MK9 I think. Commando is definitely really fun but I can't seem to get any combos landed with grabs and counters. Cybernetic is the only one that feels so strange to me, I'm having trouble finding any combos for it and I'm not quite sure I like it yet.
So when after you do the trance, bat, 3 in the corner do you need to walk up a step? I've noticed I'm too far away to hit the low string after I do this setup, still in range without walking for the b2 though. You don't go over it in the video so I'm curious if I'm missing something here. Do I have enough time after 3 to walk one step up then do the low? Seems like I have to to get in range.
thePANDEMlC after i land a trance in the corner and want to go for the vortex, i forward dash twice and then do the standing 3/4. in the video, he used f4, d4 into the bat instead of b3.i haven't used the summoner variation yet, but if f4, d4 bat is safe, then it's better than b324.
summoner gets crazy high damage for no meter, a safe free 50/50 off a hard knock down, the best comeback potential in the game, nearly unescapable block strings and pressure, a tremendous corner carry, some of the best zoning in the game, the opponent nearly always has to respect the bat and is not as meter reliant as the other variations. however getting the bat off a trance is no longer garentied and some zoning characters can lock quan from ever getting a bat also if summoner is in the corner he is fucked as he has no wake up sorcerer has the best corner game in the game, 50% damage on block, the ability to shut down all zoning characters with the meter drain spell, make his zoning unstoppable with armour and can create a inescapable vortex of chip damage that does a hundred percent with a hex active. however if a character can get up in quan chis face he won't be able to set up a spell and he lacks and armoured reversal warlock can counter zone better then any other character and can do 9% of any ranged move if whiffed or blocked, a damage ender for combos, one of the most damaging 50/50 resets in the game, an armoured reversal and the portal grab has priority. the zoning in this variation is not that great when compared to his other variations, his 50/50s are super unsafe so therefore you have to commit to them, the reversal can be easy to armour break and with out meter this character struggles to really fight overall summoner is the best on paper but sorcerers magnificent zoning and scary corner game coupled with warlock reversal to scare foes and the best whiff punish in the game, all variations are viable but in my opinion its summoner sorcerer and the warlock
Had a guy do that to me yesterday. I he'd use trance, summon bat, cr.3, make bat aim low while using b.2, making him get the overhead, then he'd loop. Only way out is to ex out of it.
Great Quan Chi video, please make more... What is the name of the game controller you are using? I have the Hori fighting commander 4 on order, because PS4 controller (D-PAD) seems to mess up my combos.
isn't standing 4 better to end corner combos with than standing 3? standing 4 does more damage in certain combos, and according to the frame data, they're both about the same advantage on hit.
Is this summoner zoning / bat speed all the same since you posted it? Not patches etc? Your ability to put those combos together on the fly is impressive. I have to memorise mine. Where are you from by the way? Mancunian
Ketchup, I love your vids and live streams, I want to learn some quan chi, but I am having a hard time. Is there any way that we could practice on xbox sometime ?
Ketchup I'm really having problems with movement in the game I.e canceling runs, and when to dash be when not to, I was very comfortable in mk9 with movement though, any tips as to better my movement or is it just something I have to get used to because the game is new
liam Belleville Don't be disheartened, it's very different to what we're all used to. Just keep at it and the mechanics will become natural soon enough :)
I would say for other characters doing run combos to make it easy no need to press run again to cancel the run and do a combo u can just run then do inputs for combo that will cancel the run, but with quan when u anti air with the bat u need to cancel run with the run button.
it seems people are more adept wit summoner, but i felt like the warlock was the normal one. ut damn, i liked sektor, cyrax and quan ci from mk9 now am stuck with quan chi. but its so hard moving i feel, and making combos, i feel like im too slow, and the overhead is kinda not for bad players, i hink its only 1 overhead? can u make warlock one? or should i just do this one
andy martins I can do my best, but in all honesty I don't think warlock is very good. You gain two counter zoning options and a reversal in the form of armoured stab, but that';s it. the amount you miss out of compared to everything else isn't really worth it.
ty ketch, but i really really cant use the summoner, having to summon it is a huge pain for me, i started warlock, but i have come up with some combos after watching this xD. but i complete them 50 percent of the time. ill give this a try. thanks. huge fan
Ketchup I now you the bOss with quan, like how you play him, amazing, but I feel like getting my ass kicked one too many times online -.- feel like giving up on quan and I've been playing him since mk9, example yesterday playing against Grandmaster sub-zero, got trapped by overhead combo ending with a slide, soon as I get up B+3,3 clone and the same stuff all over again, is there any way to avoid this problem in the corner ? lost 19 times in a row cuz of this, would really appreciate any solution xD
IQuan TheChi B1,2 into clone and F4,2 into clone is punishable on block by trance. If the sub has you cornered, look for the strings you can punish with trance. This not only saves you from the corner, but corners sub zero for your own corner game.
thnx so much bro, so many subby wubby douches out there, but we both know they will obey a woolay xD i never knew u can punish them so nice thnx again ketchup: wish u better luck at future tournaments !
Oh believe me i understand hes still top tier, cuz i play him too. I just wanted to make sure one of my favorite quan chi players wasnt going away because we cant machine gun puggles anymore lol
Christian Mendez After a knockdown, after hitting a MB rune or having them block a fullscreen MB rune are good times to summon. It's never a good idea to summon the bat in the midscreen neutral game unless they're afraid to advance.
PNDKetchup u said that ending a combo with a hard knock down in the corner u should not do its ok to it sometimes if u summon the bat there enough time to block a wake up attack and punish and even a flash wake up move make them bait out there meter then punish.
Ketchup, on your corner combos you should try adding in an uppercut after your neutral jump punch into a d3 trance which will bring them back to the corner. Also add me on FB so we can talk more Quan. facebook.com/rey.m.escanio
Thanks for the kind words guys, stay tuned for more!
Very upset that ed boon and his team ignore the fact that quan greatlyyyyyyy struggles in the corner why can't they give his trance mind control armour
Do u go to heart of gaming?
+Corey Lamaro did it get nerfed ?
***** thanks. That sucks.
As someone who mains Quan Chi, I have thought; for a while now that Warlock was his stronger variation of the 3 but you've definitely changed my opinion. I'll have to play around more with his Summoner variation, see how well I fare with what I learned here.
I subscribed. Keep up the good work!
Very good tuts my friend! I just begun in this game last night and Quan is my favorite char so far, not so easy to master but your info will help me a lot! Thank you!!
Holy shit this guys accent + YT subtitles is pure gold
This helped me process what I was seeing you do on stream a lot better. I'll have to practice this later.
Great video! Question, has the cooldown on the bat been changed? At 0:39 you're putting bats out repeatedly and really fast, can't seem to do it on PS4 though.
+King Spy Thanks for the update, they have REALLY put a lag on when you can resummon the bat.
Nice video bro.. Ill b practicing with quan chi.. The point of the game is to win. If someone wants to cry about it, then dont play. I like strategies like this.Youll hear the guy through the tv pissed which makes it even more fun to do.. 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌🙌🙌🙌🙌 good video bro. Keep up the good work with the videos. I'll be watching all of them.
I just got the game and right away want to main Corn Cheese.. pro content man, this helps alot thanks
+rshkhzee There are better tutorials out there now! This was before Summoner was nerfed :)
+PNDKetchup Ok thanks for the heads up. Summoner nerfed? I better investigate..
I've been a victim of this corner loop combo online and I am sure that person must have learnt that combo from this video lol. All I can say is Quan Chi players are one nasty piece of work.
Anyways, Great video!
Hey man, great video, I really enjoy warlock Quan, he's probably my "main", but I had always just messed around with summoner and didn't really know how to use the bat properly. Thanks for the tips
Thanks and subbed. Glad to see FG streamers that aren't all ego and "look at me" obnoxious.
I always like Quan ever since MK4. Seen you play Quan is amazing will be looking forward to your other videos. Maybe do a video on how to start a combo.
God. You are making me loving this character even more than I already am. Thanks a lot for these. We have been talking a little about the Warlock variation on your stream, but I have to say the Sorcerer variation seems pointless or very specific.
I swear you could've won the tournament if sonic fox wasnt there, your zoning and defense is outstanding
That was early days before ppl know how to block right and he was not this good back then, I hope he goes evo as well
Is there an update for this. I know we got a lot of updates so some of these might not true anymore.
Really great video, makes me want to play Quan!!! Keep up the good work!!
thanks so much, you have fully sold me on summoner and i love it!
shadesbelow Woolay!
Is Thus the guy with the piercing? he is awsome
wow great vid! just started practicing the Chi, thank you for the tips pal!
Have you done any Cybernetic Kano lately? I've been playing Cutthroat the most because it's the most similar to MK9 I think. Commando is definitely really fun but I can't seem to get any combos landed with grabs and counters. Cybernetic is the only one that feels so strange to me, I'm having trouble finding any combos for it and I'm not quite sure I like it yet.
So when after you do the trance, bat, 3 in the corner do you need to walk up a step? I've noticed I'm too far away to hit the low string after I do this setup, still in range without walking for the b2 though. You don't go over it in the video so I'm curious if I'm missing something here. Do I have enough time after 3 to walk one step up then do the low? Seems like I have to to get in range.
thePANDEMlC after i land a trance in the corner and want to go for the vortex, i forward dash twice and then do the standing 3/4. in the video, he used f4, d4 into the bat instead of b3.i haven't used the summoner variation yet, but if f4, d4 bat is safe, then it's better than b324.
Ketchup! I'm having trouble with the overheads are there any combo's after using b2 without meter burn?
hey ketchup im having trouble with the pumped up jax and i wanted to use quan chi, that full screen armor punch pisses me off
Love your things. Please keep the videos coming!
SaSSolino 8 Will do!
Ketchup! I was wondering... What for you is the best Quan Chi Variation? What do you use the most? Thank you :)
summoner gets crazy high damage for no meter, a safe free 50/50 off a hard knock down, the best comeback potential in the game, nearly unescapable block strings and pressure, a tremendous corner carry, some of the best zoning in the game, the opponent nearly always has to respect the bat and is not as meter reliant as the other variations. however getting the bat off a trance is no longer garentied and some zoning characters can lock quan from ever getting a bat also if summoner is in the corner he is fucked as he has no wake up
sorcerer has the best corner game in the game, 50% damage on block, the ability to shut down all zoning characters with the meter drain spell, make his zoning unstoppable with armour and can create a inescapable vortex of chip damage that does a hundred percent with a hex active. however if a character can get up in quan chis face he won't be able to set up a spell and he lacks and armoured reversal
warlock can counter zone better then any other character and can do 9% of any ranged move if whiffed or blocked, a damage ender for combos, one of the most damaging 50/50 resets in the game, an armoured reversal and the portal grab has priority. the zoning in this variation is not that great when compared to his other variations, his 50/50s are super unsafe so therefore you have to commit to them, the reversal can be easy to armour break and with out meter this character struggles to really fight
overall summoner is the best on paper but sorcerers magnificent zoning and scary corner game coupled with warlock reversal to scare foes and the best whiff punish in the game, all variations are viable but in my opinion its summoner sorcerer and the warlock
I like that! Thanks :D
Joe Salvador I gotta help a fellow mkx player and besides I use quan chi as a secondary main so I know a bit about him
Do you play with Release Check on or off? What about Input Shortcuts?
Thats some dirty stuff. Cant wait what you can come up with in the future :)
Hey ketchup, just found out you can do a b2 + low bat after the standing 3 to guarantee an "unblockable" since b2 is 15 frames on startup.
Had a guy do that to me yesterday. I he'd use trance, summon bat, cr.3, make bat aim low while using b.2, making him get the overhead, then he'd loop. Only way out is to ex out of it.
Well they call it hard to blockable u can block it but it can't be taught u just have two learn the timing
OMG what a monster. Great work
Sti4thewin Thank you!
Great Quan Chi video, please make more... What is the name of the game controller you are using? I have the Hori fighting commander 4 on order, because PS4 controller (D-PAD) seems to mess up my combos.
Franklin Thompson I use a regular XBox One pad :)
Really nice video ! I'm subscribing
isn't standing 4 better to end corner combos with than standing 3? standing 4 does more damage in certain combos, and according to the frame data, they're both about the same advantage on hit.
Husteen Standing 3 leaves you more plus, therefore it's the better option.
Ok so how the bloody hell do you get out of that loop?
Is this summoner zoning / bat speed all the same since you posted it? Not patches etc? Your ability to put those combos together on the fly is impressive. I have to memorise mine. Where are you from by the way? Mancunian
Michael Parkinson Everything about Summoner Quan is currently unchanged. Mustard and I are from the UK!
Ketchup, I love your vids and live streams, I want to learn some quan chi, but I am having a hard time. Is there any way that we could practice on xbox sometime ?
The Kompetitor Add me up at PND Ketchup, let's play sometime!
I haven't gotten my hands on the game yet. What are other characters that can work with zoning?
Kenshi's variant Possessed is a great zoning character. Erron black's Marksman can also be used.
Amazing thanks! You are a better player than sonic fox just bad luck that time u had him bro
Ketchup I'm really having problems with movement in the game I.e canceling runs, and when to dash be when not to, I was very comfortable in mk9 with movement though, any tips as to better my movement or is it just something I have to get used to because the game is new
liam Belleville Don't be disheartened, it's very different to what we're all used to. Just keep at it and the mechanics will become natural soon enough :)
PNDKetchup Thanks man
I would say for other characters doing run combos to make it easy no need to press run again to cancel the run and do a combo u can just run then do inputs for combo that will cancel the run, but with quan when u anti air with the bat u need to cancel run with the run button.
it seems people are more adept wit summoner, but i felt like the warlock was the normal one. ut damn, i liked sektor, cyrax and quan ci from mk9 now am stuck with quan chi. but its so hard moving i feel, and making combos, i feel like im too slow, and the overhead is kinda not for bad players, i hink its only 1 overhead? can u make warlock one? or should i just do this one
andy martins I can do my best, but in all honesty I don't think warlock is very good.
You gain two counter zoning options and a reversal in the form of armoured stab, but that';s it. the amount you miss out of compared to everything else isn't really worth it.
ty ketch, but i really really cant use the summoner, having to summon it is a huge pain for me, i started warlock, but i have come up with some combos after watching this xD. but i complete them 50 percent of the time. ill give this a try. thanks. huge fan
awesome vid man!
Does anyone know who that guy is in the background?
It's Meat
Can you do Cassie Cage please. Great video.
Pretty cool tutorial liltle hard to do but is fine
is this your main?
Universalmusicgroup Yes :)
Ketchup I now you the bOss with quan, like how you play him, amazing, but I feel like getting my ass kicked one too many times online -.- feel like giving up on quan and I've been playing him since mk9, example yesterday playing against Grandmaster sub-zero, got trapped by overhead combo ending with a slide, soon as I get up B+3,3 clone and the same stuff all over again, is there any way to avoid this problem in the corner ? lost 19 times in a row cuz of this, would really appreciate any solution xD
IQuan TheChi B1,2 into clone and F4,2 into clone is punishable on block by trance. If the sub has you cornered, look for the strings you can punish with trance.
This not only saves you from the corner, but corners sub zero for your own corner game.
thnx so much bro, so many subby wubby douches out there, but we both know they will obey a woolay xD i never knew u can punish them so nice thnx again ketchup: wish u better luck at future tournaments !
Great video.
Is he still your main since bat got nerfed to high hell?
Tyler Franger Bat barely got touched, a one second cooldown is nothing!
Summoner is still top tier.
- Ketchup
Oh believe me i understand hes still top tier, cuz i play him too. I just wanted to make sure one of my favorite quan chi players wasnt going away because we cant machine gun puggles anymore lol
Tyler Franger I main Sorceror anyway, so I don't mind what happens to Summoner!
- Ketchup
+PNDKetchup Do you still think Quan Chi is top tier with absence of a good wake up attack? (Summoner or Sorcerer)
I'm playin quan chi now
I just never know when to safely summon the bat, everyone is always right on top of me.
Christian Mendez After a knockdown, after hitting a MB rune or having them block a fullscreen MB rune are good times to summon. It's never a good idea to summon the bat in the midscreen neutral game unless they're afraid to advance.
PNDKetchup u said that ending a combo with a hard knock down in the corner u should not do its ok to it sometimes if u summon the bat there enough time to block a wake up attack and punish and even a flash wake up move make them bait out there meter then punish.
Lovely things, too bad I'm trying to focus on warlock for now. Keep shit up tho, you good.
Ketchup, on your corner combos you should try adding in an uppercut after your neutral jump punch into a d3 trance which will bring them back to the corner. Also add me on FB so we can talk more Quan. facebook.com/rey.m.escanio
GREAT!