I went for the same servo, bunch of flights without issue. Agree about not feeling the pushrod - even with the carbon tube there's a bit of flex there and id like a captive ball link at the elevator end.
Good video. I like that you attached the pushrod from the top of the servo horn. In case the clip comes off it won't immediately fall out. The book setting is not +/- 1mm, it says 1mm of up from the bottom edge. At the factory balance mine was more like 3-4mm. I'm flying on the stock 17g servo on the inner hole and ATVs at 120.
Saw one of these go in at our field last week. Linkages are definitely inferior... One thing no one has mentioned is are the stabs dynamically balanced. About 1/4 of an inch forward of the rotation shaft..
Seems like now would be the time to just plug each elevator servo into their own channels for dual elevators if you have the capacity in the receiver. That way you can just reverse one channel in the TX and skip the programmer. You can also program a mix for tailerons down the road as well if you want to be more scale.
I was about to make the exact same comment. It would be a shame to NOT fly this aircraft with tailerons. In doing so, the servo reversing indeed becomes much easier.
@@JustPlaneCrazy channel expanders are pretty inexpensive and very practical. Here's one I use on an S-bus output with a 3 channel Futaba receiver, it's the setup I have in my F-14 giving me a total of 11 channels to work with. www.xtremepowersystems.net/proddetail.php?prod=XPS-X10%2B
Great video my friend. Do you not like using the stock Servo extensions for the hitec servos? I think they're great servos but I still do not own the programmer. Not sure I want to spend money during both the servos and a programmer.
I just put the same servos in my mig that you did and when you let go or move the elevators they shake violently trying to center. tried to slow them down didn't help. does yours do that?
@@JustPlaneCrazy I'm not using the blue Box because I didn't want to reverse one of the servos I wanted them on separate channels so I can trim them so they're plugged directly into the receiver. but I am getting servo flutter If you let go of the stick too fast or if you just flick the back of the elevator when it's sitting still.
I honestly cannot answer that. I only use Hitec servos. They have been very good to me. Not all servos though are even programmable. Sorry I couldn’t help more
I was wondering, why pull out the extension all the way when you can simply unplug the servos at the back? Specially since you used the OEM servo extension. By the way good upgrade I’ve also done it to my F-14.
You can do that. In the process of figuring out the process I was just not sure where everything was hidden, I also had one servos come unplugged as I was pulling it out so I had no choice.
You can’t use the radio to do it if the servo is y harnessed or y harnessed through a blue box. My servos are run through the blue box so a programmer is needed.
MotionRC have changed and upgraded the elevator servos in the Mig 29 now so the High tech 85s don’t drop fit into the box of the new MIG 29s . The elevator servos I got with my MIG were terrible !🤮🤮🤮🤮
Stop right there at 5:21 why did you just not unplug the servo and plug the new servo in why did you pull all the wires out you certainly made that a little harder on yourself
Both my servos stuck really bad while trying to get them out. The extensions were painted stuck fast to the inside so I removed them to check them out for damage. Otherwise you are correct. It’s an easier swap.
Let's say your running a pool pump motor that's rated for 110/230 volts. Your full load current(a.k.a. amperage) will be less for the higher voltage. Usually it's will be half. So if motor is rated for 10 amps@ 110. It will be rated 5amps@230volts.
I guess it’s an interesting conversation, ohms law states that they are proportional and testing I have seen supported it. I guess the efficiency conversation of supplied voltage could be debated forever. Either way thanks for your input an explanation. I appreciate learning as well.
@@JustPlaneCrazy You are correct that Ohms law is proportional. I am a mechanic in the industrial electric motor industry with 30yrs experience. Working on motors from 110volts single phase to 13k volts three phase. So your response got me thinking. So, when I went to work today. I asked my winding foreman the same question. " why is the amperage lower for higher voltages?" His first response was, " cause it is." not the answer I was looking for. Lol. Then he went on about, circular mils, why size, the amount of turns and connections internally in the motor. After a few minutes with some scratch paper. He said he would find the mathematical equation, and we could go over it at a later time. So, I wanted to thank you. Because, I am learning something new as well.
I went for the same servo, bunch of flights without issue. Agree about not feeling the pushrod - even with the carbon tube there's a bit of flex there and id like a captive ball link at the elevator end.
Good video. I like that you attached the pushrod from the top of the servo horn. In case the clip comes off it won't immediately fall out. The book setting is not +/- 1mm, it says 1mm of up from the bottom edge. At the factory balance mine was more like 3-4mm. I'm flying on the stock 17g servo on the inner hole and ATVs at 120.
I see that thanks. Did you fly yours at the 3-4mm? Is that the trim area?
Saw one of these go in at our field last week. Linkages are definitely inferior... One thing no one has mentioned is are the stabs dynamically balanced. About 1/4 of an inch forward of the rotation shaft..
Good vid and you answered the bec question, looking forward to the maiden, jet not available here till October.
Hopefully it goes well. Kinda worried to see if it would hold up to my normal edf pounding. Hope your arrives soon. Wish u Good flights.
Great job as always Brendon, looking forward to seeing that bird in the air!
Seems like now would be the time to just plug each elevator servo into their own channels for dual elevators if you have the capacity in the receiver. That way you can just reverse one channel in the TX and skip the programmer. You can also program a mix for tailerons down the road as well if you want to be more scale.
I was about to make the exact same comment. It would be a shame to NOT fly this aircraft with tailerons. In doing so, the servo reversing indeed becomes much easier.
I guess I never gave tailerons a thought but I also don’t have a receiver big enough right now.
@@JustPlaneCrazy channel expanders are pretty inexpensive and very practical. Here's one I use on an S-bus output with a 3 channel Futaba receiver, it's the setup I have in my F-14 giving me a total of 11 channels to work with.
www.xtremepowersystems.net/proddetail.php?prod=XPS-X10%2B
Great video and thanks for creating it!
Wow. I’m a new subscriber and just learned something new. Thanks. 😊
Thanks for the tip B!
Thanks for that video that helps a lot...👍
Nice one Brenden!
Can I ask you how you got on with the Hitec D85 servos in your Mig-29 as the new 30g servos are not available in the UK?
Please reword your question?
@@JustPlaneCrazy Did the hitec D85 servos replacement work for you on the elevators.
Still flying it as of today’s a Flyin. It’s a combination of better linkage, servos, connector links and longer screws
Thank you
Great video. How do you set up the bird with smooth Start up.
It’s built into the d series servos.
@@JustPlaneCrazy Thank you for your reply. Is it every digital servo that can do it. All brands
I am only aware of Hitec. I am sure there are more but not at that price point
@@JustPlaneCrazy Thanks for the answer
Great video my friend. Do you not like using the stock Servo extensions for the hitec servos? I think they're great servos but I still do not own the programmer. Not sure I want to spend money during both the servos and a programmer.
I think they are fine
I just put the same servos in my mig that you did and when you let go or move the elevators they shake violently trying to center. tried to slow them down didn't help. does yours do that?
They do not. This plane has at least 100 hard flights on them. I use those servos in many large edf jets. Check your wires or blue box
@@JustPlaneCrazy I'm not using the blue Box because I didn't want to reverse one of the servos I wanted them on separate channels so I can trim them so they're plugged directly into the receiver. but I am getting servo flutter If you let go of the stick too fast or if you just flick the back of the elevator when it's sitting still.
Check wires etc. I do not have any issues
That Hitec programmer, will they work with other brands, futaba, Frsky ect
I honestly cannot answer that. I only use Hitec servos. They have been very good to me. Not all servos though are even programmable. Sorry I couldn’t help more
Dude great job, next time just cut the wire servos and just crimp both end and you done, no need for fishing any wires, just get a servo crimper.
I was wondering, why pull out the extension all the way when you can simply unplug the servos at the back? Specially since you used the OEM servo extension. By the way good upgrade I’ve also done it to my F-14.
You can do that. In the process of figuring out the process I was just not sure where everything was hidden, I also had one servos come unplugged as I was pulling it out so I had no choice.
Just Plane Crazy cool, I just finished installing HS 5085 in the MiG. Maiden this weekend!!!
lcacing79 good luck this weekend
Good job
When are you maiden?
Shooting for tonight after work. Conditions permitting
Just Plane Crazy cool
Are you like the zee packs?
I hope you don’t work for them too
LOL
I live the zeee. Best bang for the buck. Only issue is limited size options for 6s but 5200 is a good balance between weight and power
why don't you just use your radio to reverse the servo? thats why it has that option built into it.
You can’t use the radio to do it if the servo is y harnessed or y harnessed through a blue box. My servos are run through the blue box so a programmer is needed.
@@JustPlaneCrazy I see. more complicated than I thought.
No worries. It was a good question. That’s why we do vids and share content. Thanks for watching.
I tried helping Motion on the F-18 issue . Even helped on the TSB and got banned from buying anything.
Motion RC can suck it !
MotionRC have changed and upgraded the elevator servos in the Mig 29 now so the High tech 85s don’t drop fit into the box of the new MIG 29s .
The elevator servos I got with my MIG were terrible !🤮🤮🤮🤮
those ubecs are junk I change them to castle ones
Stop right there at 5:21 why did you just not unplug the servo and plug the new servo in why did you pull all the wires out you certainly made that a little harder on yourself
Both my servos stuck really bad while trying to get them out. The extensions were painted stuck fast to the inside so I removed them to check them out for damage. Otherwise you are correct. It’s an easier swap.
Do you work for hitech?
LOL
I wish.
I’m joking
I get it. I live certain products a bit too much but works good is just that, it works good.so tell everyone who will listen. No bs here
Actually, the higher the voltage, the lower the amperage.
Explanation?
Let's say your running a pool pump motor that's rated for 110/230 volts. Your full load current(a.k.a. amperage) will be less for the higher voltage. Usually it's will be half. So if motor is rated for 10 amps@ 110. It will be rated 5amps@230volts.
I guess it’s an interesting conversation, ohms law states that they are proportional and testing I have seen supported it. I guess the efficiency conversation of supplied voltage could be debated forever. Either way thanks for your input an explanation. I appreciate learning as well.
@@JustPlaneCrazy You are correct that Ohms law is proportional. I am a mechanic in the industrial electric motor industry with 30yrs experience. Working on motors from 110volts single phase to 13k volts three phase. So your response got me thinking. So, when I went to work today. I asked my winding foreman the same question. " why is the amperage lower for higher voltages?" His first response was, " cause it is." not the answer I was looking for. Lol. Then he went on about, circular mils, why size, the amount of turns and connections internally in the motor. After a few minutes with some scratch paper. He said he would find the mathematical equation, and we could go over it at a later time. So, I wanted to thank you. Because, I am learning something new as well.
@@dannymurphy4940 correct