Idk witch is stronger but the Terran's TVZ is so stupid to stim 30 marines with no medivac into ling bane with no split, it also doesn't know how to stutter step.
@@Vanddark It knows how to split and stutterstep, it just can't do it because it needs to many APM. Just take a few marines and do it & check your apm.. Its so funny/stupid how high it gets without doing a lot
@@baigpigpig What's wrong with critiquing another player's performance? Harstem is giving legitimate feedback on how both sides can improve, he's not attacking them for playing badly.
@@arch7024 Not really, that's not how a neural network works. It just reacts to every scenario, AlphaStar doesn't have a strategy in mind at the beginning of a game.
Next IODIS I had literally double (even triple) army supply but couldnt break toss for almost 20 minutes Protoss imba blizzard remove them from the game
Player: I'm going to wipe you out with an early rush Alphastar: I'ma go ahead and ignore that, and just mine twice as much as you the whole game I think what happened here is that alphastar realized it could win with just the army type it was already using. So despite unlocking mutas it just decided to keep doing what it was doing since it was so certain. Don't mess with a good thing I guess.
your giving Alphastar way too much credit. Alphastar sucks at scouting. At one point it makes a run by with Zerglings to the 3rd, finds that there is no 3rd, it then goes to the Natural, finds that there is no natural and then doesn't look for any other bases across the map. Alphastar made a safety spire so that if Carriers or Colossus had shown up, it would be able to make Corruptors. Which is what it did.
i am continuously shocked at how bad masters level players are when I see their replays. Then I look at myself over here in diamond and cry bc in reality I'm even worse lmao
@@firstLast-jw7bm haha yeah that's so funny, the same thing has been going on in the counter strike scene forever. When you spectate one of the bottom tier pro players continuously get absolutely humiliated by better opponents it can give the illusion that the player is WAY worse than he actually is. But that player who looks clumsy, slow and incompetent when playing against the literal best in the world would still be able to completely fucking destroy the vast majority of players in a brutal fashion.
I think because of the way AI works stuff like this needs a lot of training to deal with. I don't know exactly how Alphastar functions, but I'm pretty sure it never saw someone execute the cannon rush that way so it's still unoptimized in that area.
Perhaps Alphastar was thinking three moves in advance? Once he sees the lair, then he will defend with phoenixes rendering my mutas worthless. But if I get corruptors, I'm good against colossi and phoenix, and I'm not afraid of his ground army anyway. My only question would be: how did alphastar know the opponent had not gone to a macro game? I guess he figured, the response to the rush was a macro game, and if the opponent is beating your macro, then there's nothing you can do anyway, because he is beating you both macro and micro.
You take that back! Florencio makes the perfect counters. This guy saw lair and maybe even spire, and kept making colossus. Florencio counters you before you even change tech. He’d have Phoenix or voids ready before spite finished. And gateway speed zealots to crush bases while corrupters can just watch.
Cannon rush would have made more sense if the spawning pool would have been in the range. Zerg hasn't spreaded the creep to save the roach buildings. No overseer...
Ok the cannon rush wasn't as terrible as i thought it would be but my god that protoss macro was soooo bad.. he was floating 3 nexi worth of minerals at some point.
I played 1 ranked game yesterday (after 3 years). I played againist diamond 1. I knew it after game. In game i though that i playing againist silver/gold. So - this can be master. I believe it
Yeah this guy is horrible for a master player. Seems more like a silver or gold to me. I mean damn man. Why not at least reinforce a bit with warp gates or at the very least try to have a backup tech cheese like DT.
game seems like will be easy with stalkers , immos are slow moving and at producing, master player thinks immos can take buildings but thatsnot the problem he cant finish units, stalkers here can blink in and out giving alot of damage and if game longs colosies will be protected by them so not using stalker is a mistake here probably only stalkers even enough with cannon rush
I think the protoss alphastar is by far the strongest, but which one is the second strongest?? The Zerg or the Terran?
Zerg becuase the Terran one does some really stupid stuff with buildings like getting units stuck, poor walloffs etc
Zerg, cause terran is a harass race, and it's seem to be very complex to code an harass IA, even with deep leraning.
Difficult to make a Maru like IA.
Z because it makes queens and lots of them
Idk witch is stronger but the Terran's TVZ is so stupid to stim 30 marines with no medivac into ling bane with no split, it also doesn't know how to stutter step.
@@Vanddark It knows how to split and stutterstep, it just can't do it because it needs to many APM. Just take a few marines and do it & check your apm.. Its so funny/stupid how high it gets without doing a lot
Harstem getting very triggered at both players is hilarious
its rude really. he's spectating a master's level player and criticizing him the whole time..
@@baigpigpig What's wrong with critiquing another player's performance? Harstem is giving legitimate feedback on how both sides can improve, he's not attacking them for playing badly.
@@arch7024 Not really, that's not how a neural network works. It just reacts to every scenario, AlphaStar doesn't have a strategy in mind at the beginning of a game.
@@baigpigpig masters players suck why wouldn't he.
@@patrickcampbell957 "the top 4% of players suck" how to say you're a pretentious ass without actually saying it.
oh my god the moment he saw the corruptors... what a game
Beating MastersPlayer with stupid stuff
Brain damage is the name of the game
Yeah but alphastar has an excuse. It dont actually understand the game, just use strategies it has found works earlier
@@MyJAJAJAJJA yeah but what is a definition of understanding as such? Using strats that worked before is a sort of understanding the game.
Transistors damage 😉
Alpha star learned if it trolls the player they will permanently give up playing starcraft.
As such they never have the opportunity to beat alpha star again so ensuring the enduring victory
Exterminating all humans will ensure a permanent victory.
Next IODIS
I had literally double (even triple) army supply but couldnt break toss for almost 20 minutes
Protoss imba blizzard remove them from the game
EMP
The following IODIS
Zerg can literally ignore a cannon rush with proxy robo in their main and still win
blizz pls nerf queen
14:54 "5 corruptors? this absolute brain damage"
Player: I'm going to wipe you out with an early rush
Alphastar: I'ma go ahead and ignore that, and just mine twice as much as you the whole game
I think what happened here is that alphastar realized it could win with just the army type it was already using. So despite unlocking mutas it just decided to keep doing what it was doing since it was so certain. Don't mess with a good thing I guess.
your giving Alphastar way too much credit. Alphastar sucks at scouting.
At one point it makes a run by with Zerglings to the 3rd, finds that there is no 3rd, it then goes to the Natural, finds that there is no natural and then doesn't look for any other bases across the map.
Alphastar made a safety spire so that if Carriers or Colossus had shown up, it would be able to make Corruptors. Which is what it did.
@@sevenpolar3483 Alphastar deniers Pepepains ✋
Imagine if Alphastar had Harstem as a coach.
Imagine if Harstem had Alphastar as a coach :D
Or Florencio... :D
Protoss cheeser with 40 workers by 17 mins? This must be high masters. I did not expect this good macro.
XD
i am continuously shocked at how bad masters level players are when I see their replays. Then I look at myself over here in diamond and cry bc in reality I'm even worse lmao
@@firstLast-jw7bm haha yeah that's so funny, the same thing has been going on in the counter strike scene forever. When you spectate one of the bottom tier pro players continuously get absolutely humiliated by better opponents it can give the illusion that the player is WAY worse than he actually is. But that player who looks clumsy, slow and incompetent when playing against the literal best in the world would still be able to completely fucking destroy the vast majority of players in a brutal fashion.
Mr Kevin is getting famous, here we are step by step we're getting him a youtuber pog, keep it up great content so far !
The 17 minute Colossus walk-by :D
Your picture at the start is just glorious :)
Not positive how either player is in Masters league but.. you made it watchable. sooo frustrating lol!
I think because of the way AI works stuff like this needs a lot of training to deal with. I don't know exactly how Alphastar functions, but I'm pretty sure it never saw someone execute the cannon rush that way so it's still unoptimized in that area.
14:53 i almost choked..... hahahahahahahaha
Alphastar "fuck my spire, i ll kill those robo units with ravager/queen" :D
can you make a video about how alphastar changed the meta? its been quite a while since alphastar was a topic, i would like to see more!
i just laughed when i finally saw 2 corruptors queued up, waiting for harstem to see them XD
I understand what's going on!!... It's "Beating Alphastar with stupid stuff"!!
Alphastar was going brood lords but kept getting interrupted by the pesky human
Alpha seem to be blind against disruptor shot 😅
What a weird response. It's kinda a Terran response, ignore and build elsewhere, except without the Lift Off.
Perhaps Alphastar was thinking three moves in advance? Once he sees the lair, then he will defend with phoenixes rendering my mutas worthless. But if I get corruptors, I'm good against colossi and phoenix, and I'm not afraid of his ground army anyway. My only question would be: how did alphastar know the opponent had not gone to a macro game? I guess he figured, the response to the rush was a macro game, and if the opponent is beating your macro, then there's nothing you can do anyway, because he is beating you both macro and micro.
Was about to write a angry comment. Thanks for the wink
Did I just watch a Florencio game or am I drunk from orange juice?
You take that back!
Florencio makes the perfect counters. This guy saw lair and maybe even spire, and kept making colossus.
Florencio counters you before you even change tech. He’d have Phoenix or voids ready before spite finished.
And gateway speed zealots to crush bases while corrupters can just watch.
There was a Florencio vs AlphaStar game at Blizzcon. Flo won, but they didn't share the replay. Sore losers? :P
@@VandroiyIII haha yea, Flo had a better win record vs alphastar than Serral!!!!
@@Spanky00Cheeks no i won't take it back!!! Florencio Zerg looks like how alphastar played! So shut up!
your drunk florencio would have taken the corner bases and massed void rays
Cannon rush would have made more sense if the spawning pool would have been in the range.
Zerg hasn't spreaded the creep to save the roach buildings. No overseer...
Your videos so awesome!!
I think the discount value of alphastar might be a bit too high, that’s why it appears defensive and too patient
Why blue didn't take that roach warden is beyond me....
Protoss had so many ways to end the game like...
Ok the cannon rush wasn't as terrible as i thought it would be but my god that protoss macro was soooo bad.. he was floating 3 nexi worth of minerals at some point.
What I do not get is, why the human player did not build something to kill the air supply units. They were witting in the foront line all the time.
Is this the game that was featured at Blizzcon?
Is Harstem the protoss player? Or else why would he facecam at that moment?
I played 1 ranked game yesterday (after 3 years). I played againist diamond 1. I knew it after game. In game i though that i playing againist silver/gold. So - this can be master. I believe it
He could have used caustic spray, would have worked better than mutas.
rad vid!
I guess protoss player is alphastar too. He did not even try to clean creep :/
Ok, he has built obserwer on 12 minute
Build......a.........muta........please
I come here to get my daily dose of wink.
why not make banelings and just baneling all that or roll into his base to kill all miner units?
Does aplhastar still exist?
I can remember a time when master players were far better :/
Yeah this guy is horrible for a master player. Seems more like a silver or gold to me. I mean damn man. Why not at least reinforce a bit with warp gates or at the very least try to have a backup tech cheese like DT.
GG didn't get called in fact..
Where is the wink?
5 seconds after the start
@@Harstem oh shit, I got a link which started at 10sec. Now i'm happy!
braindamage vs braindamage
game seems like will be easy with stalkers , immos are slow moving and at producing, master player thinks immos can take buildings but thatsnot the problem he cant finish units, stalkers here can blink in and out giving alot of damage and if game longs colosies will be protected by them so not using stalker is a mistake here probably only stalkers even enough with cannon rush
What the fuck did I just whatch
whos alphastar. And btw, i never laughed so hard at a sc2 video in my life. You getting triggered is hilarious
It's an AI developed by deepmind/google
@@Algormortis9 ah good to know thanks.
Was this "Beating AlphaStar with stupid stuff".... fail?
anyone think his voice doesn't match his face? :)
Is this a Bronze match?
Absolute brain damage hahaha
i suspect the protoss player probably had a bet, win with only robo units. beacuse how is he a masterplayer...?
Cannon rush into immortal shield battery allin every game. Masters easy. Lose a couple games but win more than you lose for sure.
yeah, that's what I thought too: one trick pony
@@emissarygw2264 you guys are just jealous lol
@@tomarintomarin9520 Not really, just realistic. Plenty of "cannon rush to GM" series out there.
@@emissarygw2264 just realisticly jealous
Weird game
This looks like a Gold game not a Master game
Lol the rusher is far too good for a gold game xD
Trust me.
Gold player for sure
Which server? Cus the EU gold rushers are way worse than this.
Toss player is sooooo bad, not sure how he's masters
master played very bad. he didn't expa
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