I know you probably like the big plumes of black smoke but I really want to see you build an afterburner to ignite all that unburnt fuel and shoot massive flames out the top!
120Psi is above 7 bar..... even that tank can be an issue around that pressure, when it's red hot. Just stay at least 20m away, and more far away from the turbo exhaust, if that take's off, it has more energy than a grenade.
Hunter, I seen your oil seals were leaking on the turbo's. My brother had a tri compound turbo,super stock pulling tractor. We found out the return oil lines need to be 3 times bigger than the supply line,to keep from blowing up the oil seals!!!
Much less fuel burned in that than in a typical house fire or forest fire. On a relative scale of things, a small burn due to the small amount of fuel. Yes, the burn is at a rapid rate and the result is quite impressive.
So happy to see these still coming out. There is an aussie channel using a Haltech ECU to control a wastegate to keep boost under control. Another strapped theirs to a boat after they fit a wastegate to it. Keep it up!
This basically a jet engine; a compressor up front, a combustion chamber followed by a turbine. Instead of a train turbo, use a small jet engine. A couple things I'd like to see. A tachometer on the turbo and a couple thermocouples. Try moving the oil barrel further away with a radiator on top to cool the oil. Gravity feed should do ok. Also you might try using some kind of air dispersion system in the tank to the fire to burn more evenly. You always have a red hot spot right at the air inlet but still cool at the top. Plus fire suits. Great videos, really enjoy them, but be safe. I want you making them for quite a while longer.
They need byass air just like a real turbine. Keep the egt In the safe zone. Im sorta planning out a twin walled setup. Some work on the combustion chamber and air mix... Wood is hard, so much variation from start to end. Really need a gasifier, so its just woodgas, not ash... Get the air hot enough, the fire can be external. Theres a video of someone pulling it off. In Portuguese i think.
Maybe adding a fresh compressed air line inlet to the hot tank on a ball valve further away could help maintain the balance. Seems fighting fireballs up top are less than ideal.
@Spudro Spadre fire absolutely LOVES oxygen, let alone compressed air. I didn't see he said ball valve, just make sure there's some sort of flash arrestor.
@@jaybomb5022 Yes fire loves oxygen and the turbos are already pushing compressed air into the barrel so running a compressed air line is not really any different, the fire wont go into the compressed air line as there is no fuel in there and the barrel pressure would have to be higher than the compressed air line's pressure. And if the compressor shuts down or something, worst case scenario is the rubber hose melting.
More. Bigger. PLEASE. This is the content I wait for from any YT'er. And you're currently leading the builds. I love this so much and don't know why. I know how HP is made. But this is so un-necessary, yet so satisfying.
i mean, there is water injection systems... cant remember the full aplication but the theory being if you inject straight water into the conbustion chamber then it will cool the chamber AND add more pressure to the system
@@djaydeved absolutely, in a old school steam engine, this was called a nightmare scenario, causing extreme heat, an coal burn runaway(very high explosive potential) , but if the water jacket can support an supply end cooling and steam, this thing should scream fer a few hours
@@BurchellAtTheWharf In turbine engines water injection is used to cool the combustion liner, high pressure turbine and low pressure turbine components when desired effect is going over 100% thrust. There's a video by mentour pilot about a 747 in Greece that explains the water injection system pretty well.
What you're building is not pointless it's basically a Velox boiler, a type of boiler that is turbocharged and was used in a some naval applications due to higher power density. It's what powers for example the kuznetsov and Sovremenny classes of the Soviet/Russian navy. If anything it would be more interesting to run those things straight of an oil injection system instead of wood, so you can control them better.
I believe the turbos get too much heat being mounted on top with fire blowing straight into them. Mount them down low, and have a long enough hot pipe for the gas to cool off a little bit before reaching the turbos. Would be easier and safer to operate also.
@@thedancingpickle6362 yeah I just don't think most turbos are designed for 110 psi and probably around 2000°F EGTs... Likely why the aluminum impeller wheel melted away.
I’m guessing 300lb to maybe 1000 lb force of thrust. Just based on the amount of pressure and the fact that only a single stage turbine is blocking the exhaust so a good portion of that 110 psi is just moving air through the exhaust.
You should bypass some of the fresh air from the compressor side of the turbo directly into the hot exhaust gas before it enters the turbine side of the turbo to burn the unburnt fuel gases and to keep the temperature of the turbo low enough to make it last for a very long time. That is basically also how real jet engines keep the turbines from melting. The bypass valve can also be used to throttle the turbo. If there is enough fresh air in the exhaust gas you can inject some of the fuel rich exhaust gas after the turbo to build an afterburner.
+1 to keeping the max temp down with bypass, for a longer video. If water injection to the intakes happens too at max temp, that will help the turbos last much longer. Less smoke will mean less of a buzz, but hey, if it means more of those blue flames!
I think turbo burn barrels are super cool, seeing Bobby Mcboost make one with a little turbo was amazing that thing lit off like jet engine but you can do it all by burning wood, all the oil just creates lots of smoke and pollution, what gets it going so well is the wood gas igniting from super heated wood, it burns very fast and efficiently, the oil wont help the wood gas get going
Probably around 100,000 to 130,000 rpm. Turbos this size kinda max out around that. Much faster and they go boom. A smaller turbo will spin a lot faster but wont be able to move as much air due to the size
Doesn’t matter what type of cooling or oil system you add to those turbos. You were so far outside of the surge line for the compressor and turbine maps that the surging caused them to explode. If you want this to be something that will live under these conditions you need to figure out the air flow and pressure ratios for both sides of the turbo and spec them to run under the surge line for the compressor and turbine maps. Then it will live at 110+ lbs of boost pressure and you can then focus on cooling and lubrication.
Sickest burn barrel video I’ve seen. I watched the first video and then the second one of you building this one and that thing was EATING. Can’t wait for the next video this rocks !!!!!!!!
I got the old turbo that was taken out of the moon when they stopped it from rotatating. You could use but I don't want to be part of seeing you die 😂. Good luck on the train turbo
I will quite enjoy the Loco Turbo Barrel I quite enjoyed this Maybe try a more remote turbo setup, so the exhaust can cool more before it gets to the snail?
why think did at night cover up what add to air and smoke just cloud burn oil look like why world going down drain because idiots can't wait all oil gone we breath better air.
Helll Yea!!!! 110 pounds of boost is where its at!!!!! Should build a crazy turbo-jet engine and then you could have some thrust to play with. Keep it up!!!!
The amount of natty lights that must've gone into the planning, production and implementation of this project must be single handedly keeping Anheuser-Busch afloat
Consider rebuilding it as a compound compressor setup. you could use one high-pressure compressor, and two more feedings as atmospheric compressors. granted you're going to need to regulate that to keep the combustion chamber pressures in check.
I work at a jet fuel storage facility for an airport. When we have any kind of contaminated fuel it gets sumped off and put into the sump tank. We then wind up selling that as waste when it starts to get full. This oil is basically just off spec jet fuel. See if there is a local airport fuel storage facility nearby that will sell you some of their sump fuel.
This is really cool. I like it a lot. But you guys are really taking chances, you really don't want to be too close to it. I don't know if some kind of bleve is possible with this thing, but if it is, and if it happens you will be toasted.
Epic fun! Loved the high five at the end. For more safety, I would consider fire suits, like racing overalls or full-on firefighter silver suits if you can get them. Go for it! :D
Dont think having 2 turbos feeding into one was a good idea, seems like the presure was causing them to stall. Perhaps stick to feeding one into another. As for cooling them perhaps a water sprayer into the intake of the turbo? Might decrease air temp and I know it sound counter intuitive to be spraying water into it but it might make it burn better.
You're halfway to a Velox boiler. Just need to add a water jacket and a steam turbine. I think the key is using a much larger turbo, that will help prevent overspeeding.
Take inspiration from jet engine design and sleeve the inside of the barrel with holes that pipe the cold air into the area between the outer tank and the internal sleeve to keep it cool and keep fresh air mixing with the fuel source throughout. As for your beer can oil idea, you're blowing out the caps well before the aluminum melts introducing oil much sooner. Consider a stainless style tank design that uses the expanding vapor in the oil to feed it out via a tube on the bottom with a diesel style injector to atomize it. Something like this may be needed with the giant loco turbo if you can source one.
How about big coal briquetts. Germany has Rekord style coal briquetts which are the size of freight train brake pads. Don't know if you have such big briquetts in the US but these definetly won't be sucked into the turbo and will give you a ton of energy
Those aluminum bottles will be cooled by the oil in them. The oil will not get to the melting point of the bottle. They may burst open from the oil boiling though. Could be good or bad. Watching to see.
Have you considered adding turbo inlet pipes to reach down near ground level for easy access, and also to provide the intake with some inertia to stop the hunting?
I know you probably like the big plumes of black smoke but I really want to see you build an afterburner to ignite all that unburnt fuel and shoot massive flames out the top!
Lol I would die to see that
and some more lights
Yes!
that's not how afterburners work lol
@@danisyx5804 Oh? So how do they work?
120Psi is above 7 bar..... even that tank can be an issue around that pressure, when it's red hot. Just stay at least 20m away, and more far away from the turbo exhaust, if that take's off, it has more energy than a grenade.
Well when he blows himself up, he won't do that any more. Lesson learned.
20m is still within the kill zone 😅
More like 200 meters!!!
Darwin is a killjoy
Hunter, I seen your oil seals were leaking on the turbo's. My brother had a tri compound turbo,super stock pulling tractor. We found out the return oil lines need to be 3 times bigger than the supply line,to keep from blowing up the oil seals!!!
The oil must be boiling and expanding
That’s the most glorious carbon footprint I’ve ever seen!
Like not even carbon dioxide. Just carbon.
it was even on earth day !
Much less fuel burned in that than in a typical house fire or forest fire. On a relative scale of things, a small burn due to the small amount of fuel. Yes, the burn is at a rapid rate and the result is quite impressive.
Ukraine says hello
" How Dare You!!!..... You've Stolen My Dreams!!!!"
Keep it up, I would love to see a locomotive turbo on there.
I think a Container ship turbo is bigger...let's get 3 of those and stack those together
Full grain silo for the barrel!
Maybe skip the fuel oil turbine and go right to Rolls Royce MT30?
Fuck yes I'd pay good money just to sit in a Mojave desert clearing and watch it go
Youd need one hell of a burn barrel to make it worth while. Those turbos are easily twice the size of whats in this video if not bigger
Love it, but be safer, you’re testing fate.
yeah, 120 psi might be a bit much for that red hot steel
This thing is bad ass don't get me wrong. But it's also a deathwish. 120psi of red hot 1/4 plate will kill you, and whatever happens to be in its way.
Someone get this man a locomotive turbo stat!!!!
So happy to see these still coming out. There is an aussie channel using a Haltech ECU to control a wastegate to keep boost under control. Another strapped theirs to a boat after they fit a wastegate to it. Keep it up!
Camp dogs high tech burn barrel lol
This basically a jet engine; a compressor up front, a combustion chamber followed by a turbine. Instead of a train turbo, use a small jet engine. A couple things I'd like to see. A tachometer on the turbo and a couple thermocouples. Try moving the oil barrel further away with a radiator on top to cool the oil. Gravity feed should do ok. Also you might try using some kind of air dispersion system in the tank to the fire to burn more evenly. You always have a red hot spot right at the air inlet but still cool at the top. Plus fire suits.
Great videos, really enjoy them, but be safe. I want you making them for quite a while longer.
They need byass air just like a real turbine. Keep the egt
In the safe zone.
Im sorta planning out a twin walled setup.
Some work on the combustion chamber and air mix... Wood is hard, so much variation from start to end.
Really need a gasifier, so its just woodgas, not ash...
Get the air hot enough, the fire can be external. Theres a video of someone pulling it off. In Portuguese i think.
Maybe adding a fresh compressed air line inlet to the hot tank on a ball valve further away could help maintain the balance. Seems fighting fireballs up top are less than ideal.
Compressed air lmao 🤣 sounds like a bomb waiting to happen at the regulator valve.
@@jaybomb5022 wat
@Spudro Spadre fire absolutely LOVES oxygen, let alone compressed air.
I didn't see he said ball valve, just make sure there's some sort of flash arrestor.
@@jaybomb5022 Yes fire loves oxygen and the turbos are already pushing compressed air into the barrel so running a compressed air line is not really any different, the fire wont go into the compressed air line as there is no fuel in there and the barrel pressure would have to be higher than the compressed air line's pressure.
And if the compressor shuts down or something, worst case scenario is the rubber hose melting.
@Spudro Spadre I stand corrected, my logic only applies to Pure O2 not compressed air made mostly of non flammable nitrogen.
More. Bigger. PLEASE. This is the content I wait for from any YT'er. And you're currently leading the builds. I love this so much and don't know why. I know how HP is made. But this is so un-necessary, yet so satisfying.
almost dies, high fives...hahaha i love it.
Heck yeah! Glad to see you were able to get it done! Hoping someone can come through with a train turbo🤞🏼
Wrap the burn barrel in a water jacket of some kind, and use the extra steam to help power said turbines
You are a goddamn genius. I thought of putting the exhaust output as some kind of jet but that is even better.
@@thedancingpickle6362 I'm just a hillbilly wishing he had a junkyard 🤣 but I got an Armada of boats
But fire is always fun and so are turbos
i mean, there is water injection systems... cant remember the full aplication but the theory being if you inject straight water into the conbustion chamber then it will cool the chamber AND add more pressure to the system
@@djaydeved absolutely, in a old school steam engine, this was called a nightmare scenario, causing extreme heat, an coal burn runaway(very high explosive potential) , but if the water jacket can support an supply end cooling and steam, this thing should scream fer a few hours
@@BurchellAtTheWharf In turbine engines water injection is used to cool the combustion liner, high pressure turbine and low pressure turbine components when desired effect is going over 100% thrust. There's a video by mentour pilot about a 747 in Greece that explains the water injection system pretty well.
finally ive been so exited for this since your last video!! keep up the great work Hunter.
This is the content we didn't know we needed! Keep em' coming! Go Big or GO HOME!
you know I drop whatever I'm doing when Hunter posts a burn-barrel vid
What you're building is not pointless it's basically a Velox boiler, a type of boiler that is turbocharged and was used in a some naval applications due to higher power density. It's what powers for example the kuznetsov and Sovremenny classes of the Soviet/Russian navy. If anything it would be more interesting to run those things straight of an oil injection system instead of wood, so you can control them better.
I believe the turbos get too much heat being mounted on top with fire blowing straight into them. Mount them down low, and have a long enough hot pipe for the gas to cool off a little bit before reaching the turbos. Would be easier and safer to operate also.
It will take a little longer spooling but since this is a truck I suppose that isn't that bad of a problem
@@thedancingpickle6362 yeah I just don't think most turbos are designed for 110 psi and probably around 2000°F EGTs... Likely why the aluminum impeller wheel melted away.
maybe put some old intercooler between the barrel and the hot side of the turbo
@@njinthemj52the impeller wheel was intaking outside air though??
At Around 6:40 is when he laughed. He sounded like one of the evil gremlins from the movie.😂
At this point you've almost built a cupola furnace. This has been a really entertaining series.
God dam this was an operation 🤘🇺🇲
Imagine with a constant fuel supply lol
someone get this man a train turbo!
I would LOVE to know how much trust this thing makes.
I wouldn't trust that thing with a stick of gum... 😜
I’m guessing 300lb to maybe 1000 lb force of thrust. Just based on the amount of pressure and the fact that only a single stage turbine is blocking the exhaust so a good portion of that 110 psi is just moving air through the exhaust.
How exactly would something like this ´´go right´´..? I can only see this going wrong... haha - greetings from Iceland.
You should bypass some of the fresh air from the compressor side of the turbo directly into the hot exhaust gas before it enters the turbine side of the turbo to burn the unburnt fuel gases and to keep the temperature of the turbo low enough to make it last for a very long time. That is basically also how real jet engines keep the turbines from melting. The bypass valve can also be used to throttle the turbo. If there is enough fresh air in the exhaust gas you can inject some of the fuel rich exhaust gas after the turbo to build an afterburner.
+1 to keeping the max temp down with bypass, for a longer video. If water injection to the intakes happens too at max temp, that will help the turbos last much longer. Less smoke will mean less of a buzz, but hey, if it means more of those blue flames!
@@juniperhart3208 if they manage to make the turbo last long, they could even put the barrel on wheels and build a jet powered car with it...
I can't get enough of these turbo burners. Keep it coming
Gives a whole new meaning to "bombfire".
That things absolutely insane 😂
I love it
What an incredible build! This is seriously impressive! Can’t wait for the next video!
I think turbo burn barrels are super cool, seeing Bobby Mcboost make one with a little turbo was amazing that thing lit off like jet engine but you can do it all by burning wood, all the oil just creates lots of smoke and pollution, what gets it going so well is the wood gas igniting from super heated wood, it burns very fast and efficiently, the oil wont help the wood gas get going
Makes we wonder how loopy it would get if pure oxygen were piped into the inlet.
Wonder how fast those turbos were spooling at 110 lbs of boost? 😮
Compound. Much the same as usual really.
All of the rpms
too fast hence the explosion
Probably around 100,000 to 130,000 rpm. Turbos this size kinda max out around that. Much faster and they go boom. A smaller turbo will spin a lot faster but wont be able to move as much air due to the size
This is awesome. Crazy! Totally awesome though.
Doesn’t matter what type of cooling or oil system you add to those turbos. You were so far outside of the surge line for the compressor and turbine maps that the surging caused them to explode. If you want this to be something that will live under these conditions you need to figure out the air flow and pressure ratios for both sides of the turbo and spec them to run under the surge line for the compressor and turbine maps. Then it will live at 110+ lbs of boost pressure and you can then focus on cooling and lubrication.
+ compressor wheels are cooked by extremely hot air without intercoolers between turbos....
Sickest burn barrel video I’ve seen. I watched the first video and then the second one of you building this one and that thing was EATING. Can’t wait for the next video this rocks !!!!!!!!
3:11 you can hear the turbos peaking the boost hardd
You could try to use the burn barrel and some kind of jet engine too bc with 12o psi feeding into that thing is NUTS
This is by far some of the scetchiest looking shit I’ve ever seen in the internet. Love it!
6:46 savage
Adam Savage 🤣😂🤣
Hunter, all I can say brother is this. Dont stop doing what you're doing, I fucking love this shit.
I got the old turbo that was taken out of the moon when they stopped it from rotatating. You could use but I don't want to be part of seeing you die 😂. Good luck on the train turbo
I will quite enjoy the Loco Turbo Barrel
I quite enjoyed this
Maybe try a more remote turbo setup, so the exhaust can cool more before it gets to the snail?
why think did at night cover up what add to air and smoke just cloud burn oil look like why world going down drain because idiots can't wait all oil gone we breath better air.
That was awesomely exciting bro cool video.
So this is basically a jet engine powered by wood? I don't understand, but I love it. I have to check this stuff
Single handedly detroys the environment.
7:47 train turbo and tanker car.
"there's no point to it, it's It's fun to look at, and it makes me happy."
That is legitimately the tagline of every neurodivergent maker. Love it
Will there be a video of the EPA showing up in the future?.. LMAO
Helll Yea!!!! 110 pounds of boost is where its at!!!!! Should build a crazy turbo-jet engine and then you could have some thrust to play with. Keep it up!!!!
A locomotive Turbo would definitely a Step up. But showing a picture of a ship Turbo? Now that would be an interesting build
Since you're the king of Ford trucks Hunter this might make a great video
The amount of natty lights that must've gone into the planning, production and implementation of this project must be single handedly keeping Anheuser-Busch afloat
Aaaaaand just like the truck mounted one? Not a single fire extinguisher on site... I love your dedication to mayhem.
It's one of the best reasons for all time, as interpreted: Because it makes me laugh hard enough I get light headed.
That looks way too dangerous to be standing next to.
Maybe Use some Woodgas to help to boost its power?
Absolutley wonderful, has the carbon footprint of a small country. Take that Prius drivers!
S/o to hunter for 10% off my heartbeat of America hoody from heatwave that I’d been waiting to pull the trigger on
Take care, man. That shit is DANGEROUS!
110 psi. Thats insane. No wonder those turbos aint happy. Maybe try some methanol injection into the turbos to help cool them
Consider rebuilding it as a compound compressor setup. you could use one high-pressure compressor, and two more feedings as atmospheric compressors. granted you're going to need to regulate that to keep the combustion chamber pressures in check.
It is how it was built now. No?
I work at a jet fuel storage facility for an airport. When we have any kind of contaminated fuel it gets sumped off and put into the sump tank. We then wind up selling that as waste when it starts to get full. This oil is basically just off spec jet fuel. See if there is a local airport fuel storage facility nearby that will sell you some of their sump fuel.
This is really cool. I like it a lot. But you guys are really taking chances, you really don't want to be too close to it. I don't know if some kind of bleve is possible with this thing, but if it is, and if it happens you will be toasted.
What would be REALLY good is the turbo off of an ALCo 539T! the spool on those things is BEAUTIFUL sounding!
Way to go Hunter I really appreciate the growth in building a better barrel burner 🔥 Train Turbo Search Initiate! We'll find one for y'all!
With this the 6,000,000 might have actually been possible 😂
Sweet video! I still think you should try and build a gasifier and run a vehicle with it.
You are so close to gasification here, make woodgas/ syngas and make a turbo swirl burner. Make a semi that runs on firewood!
You guys are mental! Keep up the good work!
Hell yeah It's too long I've been waiting.... Full Florida send
I like the turbo idea and different fuels too.
Epic fun! Loved the high five at the end. For more safety, I would consider fire suits, like racing overalls or full-on firefighter silver suits if you can get them. Go for it! :D
I liked your design of all the manifolds actually. 😎👍
Cool, love the videos just wish they were longer
Dont think having 2 turbos feeding into one was a good idea, seems like the presure was causing them to stall.
Perhaps stick to feeding one into another.
As for cooling them perhaps a water sprayer into the intake of the turbo? Might decrease air temp and I know it sound counter intuitive to be spraying water into it but it might make it burn better.
Anyone: "How much hot oil do you want to splash on you?"
Hunter Goodrich: "YES!"
LOL Awesome video
You should add a liquid LP line to the intake for once it spools up, then you can _really_ lay on the beans😂
Loco Turbo...yes. so much yes. We all would like to see that but be safe :)
*_Gotta LOVE it... why do it... because it's fun to 'watch... indeed it is fun to watch.._*
I hear that green new deal is full of hot air… Maybe you could use that to finally make unicorn farts productive?
Lignite Briquettes as a fuel. Burns hotter and longer than wood, and with a whiff of nitros oxide, she make some fun occur.
Just a bunch of vicious Pyros. Fucking love it
You're halfway to a Velox boiler. Just need to add a water jacket and a steam turbine. I think the key is using a much larger turbo, that will help prevent overspeeding.
Take inspiration from jet engine design and sleeve the inside of the barrel with holes that pipe the cold air into the area between the outer tank and the internal sleeve to keep it cool and keep fresh air mixing with the fuel source throughout. As for your beer can oil idea, you're blowing out the caps well before the aluminum melts introducing oil much sooner. Consider a stainless style tank design that uses the expanding vapor in the oil to feed it out via a tube on the bottom with a diesel style injector to atomize it. Something like this may be needed with the giant loco turbo if you can source one.
That turbo was choochin!! Till it couldn’t lol
Maybe you could make some kind of heat exchanger to capture some of the heat from the exhaust and preheat the air just before it goes into the barrel.
Seems like a really efficient way to get hurt. Nice!
How about big coal briquetts.
Germany has Rekord style coal briquetts which are the size of freight train brake pads.
Don't know if you have such big briquetts in the US but these definetly won't be sucked into the turbo and will give you a ton of energy
Have you considered running a perforated tube up through the middle of the barrel, to more evenly distribute the intake charge, throughout the coals?
Your as crazy as me!
Don't kill yourself 😂😂😂
Dangerous + Fire = Fun.
Those aluminum bottles will be cooled by the oil in them. The oil will not get to the melting point of the bottle. They may burst open from the oil boiling though. Could be good or bad. Watching to see.
You are a complete and utter nutter, and I'm here for it. This is awesome. Be safe!
Have you considered adding turbo inlet pipes to reach down near ground level for easy access, and also to provide the intake with some inertia to stop the hunting?
Internal baffles to keep ash and solids out of turbine exhaust housing. Reduction after turbine, to throttle the system and reduce runaway effect
I'm sure the EPA is very happy with your burn barrel. 😆
I hope they fine his ass off for this massive pollution
@@TetraHydroCannabinolTHCderp derp
I have a turbo that may need some bearing work done out of a caterpillar dump truck, might work for doing a larger burn barrel. Weighs about 325lbs
Bigger turbos would be fun for sure, just try not to die.
I hope they got their refund hassle free, clearly a manufacturer issue