🤬EXCLUSIVE GROUNDBREAKING footage:FRAME BREAKS others won’t show. GRAND DESIGN SCANDAL, IS IT TRUE?

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  • @rayjansen6712
    @rayjansen6712 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Heard about this issue. Now you have proof. Unreal...

  • @grayfox9911
    @grayfox9911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My! That was an eye opening interview! How sad that the industry has gotten so bad...

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Way more common than you can even imagine. We have sooo many personal acquaintances that have these conditions on their units. It is pathetic 😒

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is all about the bottom line. Where can we cut corners.

  • @marksr1907
    @marksr1907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The sad thing about GD is they used to market them as "full timer's rig" and now they say it's the owner's fault for using them for full timing because they aren't intended for that. Two faced liars.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Deflect. Point fingers because you are guilty 🙄

  • @dianeoczkowski4808
    @dianeoczkowski4808 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very good interview. Having an ASE technician explaining the details associated alignment, camber, etc. was very valuable.

  • @sharonadkison5869
    @sharonadkison5869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Some rv dealerships won't take these Grand designs in on trade.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you realize the value of a GD used or new right now?

  • @timj4742
    @timj4742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Pierre, Laurel, Bruce, and Leslie. It was nice talking to you in May at the meeting.👍

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The pleasure was all ours!!!

  • @amiralions2681
    @amiralions2681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The people running these companies know the stress and potential danger they are causing to families, seniors, and everyone sharing the road with one of their trailers and they continue the runaround. Shameful.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm with you. Most of them don't even own an RV.

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We want all owners to be aware of what the potential failures are...

    • @loseerich493
      @loseerich493 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Weekend Warrior got away with this in the early 2000s. The owner literally liquidated the company right before court class-action settlement stuff was due to take effect. The company didn't go bankrupt, the owner closed up shop on his own accord & walked off into the sunset a multi-millionaire, leaving thousands of us owners with defective product. I had to sell mine for a $10,000 loss just to get out from under it.

  • @kennethpethan8090
    @kennethpethan8090 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I feel bad for these GD. Owners, this something that could have been prevented and stopped at the factory level, theses company's all brag about there QC. Programs but how many do they really test? Also they all get to big to fast and the profit margins get in the way of quality!!! To many of them pushed to hard and to fast and now look at the mess they have!!! Thanks for sharing your story.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You got it right!! 👍 🙃

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We owned a 2014 Grand Design. It was a far better unit than our 2023. I think that tells the story!

  • @loseerich493
    @loseerich493 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Grand Design is reenacting what Weekend Warrior did in the early 2000s. Let's hope they don't agree to a court class action settlement then right before trailer owners are to get their fixes/compensation the owner of Weekend Warrior, Mark Warmouth, decided to liquidate the company. Walked away scot free & the thousands of us owners with multi models of defective frame Weekend Warrior toy haulers were left holding the bag.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly my 😨 fear

    • @loseerich493
      @loseerich493 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blueoxontherun9188 If it comes to a big class action suit against GD, owners would be wise to use the Weekend Warrior case as an example of what to not allow RV companies to get away with (settlement wise). I feel for all the owners, been there/done that with Weekend Warrior / Zieman defective product.

  • @MichelGagnon-rk8vx
    @MichelGagnon-rk8vx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Essentially, these are built to stay in the yard and avoid the road!!!

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Put cement blocks strategically under the frame and look at it 🤣

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is basically what Grand Design Said...

  • @biancopoolssal
    @biancopoolssal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Great person Bruce meet in Claremont very trustworthy person great to see him linked with blue ox keep up great work

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We strive for the best! They are definitely a great team and asset.

  • @marksr1907
    @marksr1907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had a 310GK for four months. The slides would always "bind" and not work and I didn't know why just that it made me distrust the rig (pre frame failure sensation). At the time I thought it was because the mechanism was underpowered. It was a 2021. I got rid of it because it had so many problems not even realizing that was an indicator of frame failure. Luckily being a 2021 I was able to trade it in for the price I paid. Bought a truck camper and went to Alaska and the Arctic Ocean with it - worked out in our favor love truck camping especially for the travel we ended up doing.
    edit: ps: after Alaska/Arctic bought a larger truck camper and had a very thorough inspection done. Strongly recommend. We have had no issues and I think part of that is the dealer knowing an inspection was going to be done and that motivated them to do a detailed PDI. The inspection report showed so many things/tests I would have never thought of doing myself.

  • @walterrafolski5662
    @walterrafolski5662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Pierre, the more videos I watch the more I think I don’t want an Rv. When will y’all be back in the south? Maybe I will get a tent! 😅😅😅

  • @nathanurick8320
    @nathanurick8320 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BREAKING NEWS GRAND DESIGN!!!!!!
    I own a 10 year old solitude and about two years ago we almost bought the 390rk at the rv show in Houston because we loved it. I’m so glad now that we were able to walk away.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully we help others as well 😉🙏

  • @stevemurray2737
    @stevemurray2737 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Grand Design would have to fold if they did the right thing. Might have to anyway. Great Marketing can’t cure this. This is disastrous.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can't imagine their way out either...it will be interesting how Winnebago is going to come out smelling like a rose out of this one 🤔

    • @domfer2540
      @domfer2540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is Grand Design own by Winnebago and Winnebago is a Canadian company?

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      American!
      Yes they own GD now

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Grand Design will attempt to wiggle its way out of this. But the genie is out of the bottle now...

  • @caniacstevehenderson7115
    @caniacstevehenderson7115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well done fellas !! A belated Happy Father's day too ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right back at you Mr Steve 😊

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! And a Happy Fathers Day to you and all the followers!

  • @davidhannan2023
    @davidhannan2023 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video, just the right amount of detailed information. I’m looking for a class A diesel pusher not a fifth wheel, but if I was, I’d tell myself, and all my friends to boycott Grand Design until they start taking their customers and their product seriously!

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How can you get out of such position with ALL the customers that are coming out with same issues ? They will ALL have these issues if they use their trailers IMHO

  • @domfer2540
    @domfer2540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My wife and I want to see the country. After over 40 serving my country and state. We wanted to enjoy life and our great country. We want a small camper under 4,000 lbs to tow. But, we have it decided it is unreachable dream now a days. Can not trust dealers or their workmanship. Due to our age we believe the shop/dealers will just string us along, knowing we can not fight back. There needs lemon laws for rv’s and they need an inspection requirement to be meet.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏 thanks for your services 🙏

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We challenge them every day when we perform inspections and Laurel and Pierre produce content.

  • @charleneheiland8803
    @charleneheiland8803 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Blue Ox trained,can't. get any better !!!! 🥰🥰🥰😎😎😎🌹🌹🌹

  • @terryl.6490
    @terryl.6490 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every time I watch one of these videos I just cringe. We full time in a 2021 GD Momentum and have had nowhere near the issues that some folks are going thru. Did we get a unit that was actually built well, or lucky, or something is wrong and we haven't seen it yet?
    Regardless, I feel for these folks and am glad that they are taking the time to put these videos out. It gives pointers on what to look for when checking for potential problems.

  • @weighit
    @weighit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bruce and his wife are a true asset to the Blue Ox team. So happy you have been able to grow the excellent inspections you are doing and showing the rv crowd how important a real inspections is. Great Video!

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We appreciate you chiming in 😊 thanks for the compliments

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for the kind words. Blue Ox Endorsed will be the new standard for inspections!

  • @jeffreyharris6785
    @jeffreyharris6785 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The makers of all RV should have to hold the note, and after your RV is in the shop for 2 weeks, you no longer have to pay the note. When you get your RV back, you resume payments after 60 days so you can camp test your RV. That would up the makers quality acceptance, and what leaves the factory.

  • @dianemullen7005
    @dianemullen7005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the first videos I remember seeing about GD frame problems was Millers in Motion's video about their rear kitchen model. They no longer have that unit after going with a toy hauler from Alliance.

  • @phillipc4865
    @phillipc4865 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unbelievable. I had a 2014 Lifestyle LRV fifth wheel. What a great frame. Very robust. No one wants to pay the money to build a better mouse trap. Pitiful.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right??
      Love the "mouse trap" analogy 👌 😀

  • @juliebaird4156
    @juliebaird4156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoy all of your videos. This one was one of the best. Having another inspector talk about the issues he personally is having was eye-opening. I feel for him and the other GD owners who are getting the run around to get their rigs fixed.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right?? You think they care about you and I?

  • @markthompson2079
    @markthompson2079 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know it's bad when a RV dealership will not take Grand Design in trade. Grand Design is cooked as a company.
    Always get an inspection period.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It definitely doesn't look good 😕

  • @bishopgeorge1333
    @bishopgeorge1333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, and we were going to try the buy a GD, hmmm, might not be a good ideal now we just keep what we have, a Jayco North Point but not really sure if that is any better, so far so good those.

  • @CraigSchulman1
    @CraigSchulman1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there a point at which the frame manufacturers become responsible for allowing the RV manufacturers to put poorly designed chassis’s under these rigs?

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      IMHO between the 3 big frame suppliers like Lippert, BAL and Roadmaster...it is an ethic they don't seem to care about. Again, it all about greed 🙄 nobody really cares anymore and accountability is a fable from the past I think 🤔

  • @kechkaren
    @kechkaren 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve learned so much with your videos. Thank you!
    I’m thinking of having an inspection done on our 2022 Keystone Sprinter even though so far we’ve never had any major issues. The reason I’m thinking of having an inspection done is for proactive prevention. We’re NOT going to sell/trade our 5th wheel because we’re old, don’t full time camp, not taking a chance on buying a different camper, and we like what we have.
    Pierre, question: why doesn’t keystone put a collar around the pin box? There’s a finger width gap between the fiberglass and floor of where the pin box goes into? Like Alliance does with their 5th wheels? I asked Keystone and they said, it doesn’t need it’! Well, I see future possible water intrusion. So a friend of mine who works at Alliance (who pointed this out) is getting me the collar to put on. Same pin box product, same dimensions.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cost 🙄🙃...money is their sign for quality 🤣
      When ur ready, make sure to reach out
      www.blueoxrvinspection.com

    • @kechkaren
      @kechkaren 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you have a Blue Ox approved inspector near us? Niles, MI (very near Elkhart, IN)

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Www.blueoxrvinspection.com

  • @RickandDarcirvadventures
    @RickandDarcirvadventures 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We hired an excellent couple out of Tennessee. I went to look at the rig so I could see if there was anything that might catch my eye for something major wrong. I didn’t find anything so we hired the couple to go over and see the finer things that my untrained eye could not catch. Now we are waiting for the dealership to fix it.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please follow up and tell me how they did and who are they ...
      www.blueoxrvinspection.com

    • @RickandDarcirvadventures
      @RickandDarcirvadventures 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blueoxontherun9188 ok

  • @marychristie6194
    @marychristie6194 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Newmar Dutch Star ⭐️ is a piece of crap 💩-In a post prior to this I had said our electrical blew -an INTERNAL SURGE-NOT an External surge at the pedestal-This surge took out out our EMS, inverter, back air conditioning unit, bedroom slide module-$15,000 in a 2023 -3 months out of the 1 year warranty-Newmar said “Pound Sand” you are past your 1 year-We will never buy another motorhome/RV ever again-We are done -These are terrible quality and they are ripping off ordinary people who don’t have a ton of money to fix this junk -It doesn’t have to be this way but the RV industry IS NOT held accountable-Don’t give me the excuse that this is an earthquake going down the road-That is an excuse to build garbage-These CAN and SHOULD be made much much better -For us, NEVER AGAIN 🤯

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel your pain and sympathize 😧

  • @joygarrett8397
    @joygarrett8397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I had a heartland (Sundance ultralight) 29 ft 5vr somewhere around 2011 or so. I know they’ve been bashed but back then it was a great, quality unit!!. Just saying. I think quality overall has declined & it’s not just covid stuff . . although that added to it!!
    Never had any frame flex or pin box issues . . .

  • @LoniZdanowicz
    @LoniZdanowicz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! You would think the industry would seriously get their act together and build better not junk.

  • @jimmyducote6318
    @jimmyducote6318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What year did all this stuff with lilbert start, would very happy with a replay

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lippert builds to their customers specs 😶

  • @ronnieparlaman2834
    @ronnieparlaman2834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One reason I bought a Northwood All in house frames

  • @scott5280
    @scott5280 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Unreal issues with a 2 year old 5th wheel. Silicone holds the Rv together. 😂

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is THE statement that got me and shows the deflection they are thought to avoid accountability of their wrong doing...

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was what they implied.

  • @markshelhart8338
    @markshelhart8338 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The more I watch about these issues, the more I'm convinced that the industry simply doesn't have the design, engineering, and especially construction abilities to deiiver these large take your home down the road models at the price points they need to be at. Are there some manufacturers who can throw price out the window and achieve it? Probably, but the conventional volume producers sure aren't there yet; and I don't think it's malice on their part, they just don't have the capital that someone like a Ford or GM has in the automotive industry.

    • @wildwwa
      @wildwwa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      GD has the money they are owned by Winnebago. These companies just don’t care that’s why they are always trying to give the runaround.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We might have to realize and agree with you. It's all about the $...if you don't stand up, they just brush it off ...

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How much more will it cost to build it the right way?

    • @markshelhart8338
      @markshelhart8338 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BruceCrittendon They would need to overbiuld the frames and hire master welders and then inspect all their welds, that would fall on Lippert, but they're supplying what the Mfg. orders. GD would also need to slow down the line and make sure they're using the proper size lag bolts and make sure that all the holes are being used, the frame and walls work together to form the structural integrity.

  • @mikedeiana1504
    @mikedeiana1504 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Again, people keep writing and calling the highway safety commission to step in fine these companies huge dollars for the crap they’re building in the dangerous conditions that lead to accidents and people getting severely injured or killed people better keep complaining keep writing your congressman. Everybody needs to know of all the dangerous and the neglect in craftsmanship of these vehicles.

  • @jed1947
    @jed1947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, again ...

  • @bobconner422
    @bobconner422 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The RV industry has always been this way .

  • @edyoung6573
    @edyoung6573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grand Design is pile of junk! I wouldn't take one for free!! Horrible company!!

  • @robertroth287
    @robertroth287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh, SURE......THEY get the T shirt.

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      NOOO...THEY didn't get THE TShirt...
      "You were leaving when" is going to be THE TShirt...
      Stop being so jealous 🤣

    • @BruceCrittendon
      @BruceCrittendon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Now you know where you stand....lol. BTY I loved your application!

    • @robertroth287
      @robertroth287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BruceCrittendon You both will be a valuable addition and am wishing you much success. I knew where I stood when I was offered a spot in the toad while they drove around the country.

    • @robertroth287
      @robertroth287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blueoxontherun9188 I am getting older you know 🙄

    • @blueoxontherun9188
      @blueoxontherun9188  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll supply you one of those plaited blanket and a thermos on our next trip...stop whining will you!
      It sounds like we're not tending to you 🙄😁

  • @thecouchpotato7325
    @thecouchpotato7325 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ugh. C4BO

  • @mommasonthemove9144
    @mommasonthemove9144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm pointing fingers at LIEppert!!!

    • @mommasonthemove9144
      @mommasonthemove9144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are just as equal in this shit show.

  • @salveloz5824
    @salveloz5824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow

  • @davelorenz2981
    @davelorenz2981 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    C4BO❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @buamedia8520
    @buamedia8520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🫡

  • @kristenpersinos5140
    @kristenpersinos5140 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    liquid class action junk,,,jesus,,all that $

  • @jm.k4950
    @jm.k4950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    C4BO

  • @jcgee-r9n
    @jcgee-r9n 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    c4bo

  • @randypues203
    @randypues203 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    C4bo

  • @richardcampbell9225
    @richardcampbell9225 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    c4bo