We were the buyers! And yes Patricia slip the bad word out. It was a bust and yes the Tiffin Phaeton’s was on our vision board. But that’s ok. Pierre and Laurel did another inspection for us and it looks like we will be getting 2018 Tiffin Allegro Bus. The problems are fixed and we are picking it up Saturday morning. After we check to make sure are issues were fixed . New Windshield was already installed 2 days ago along with some other things. Fingers crossed!! Thank you Blue Ox
That's a lot of expensive repairs. Apparently the original owner gave up on trying to use the warranty and is now trying to dump it on the next buyer. And they can't be unaware of it. Wow.
Slides, never trouble in our Triple E, always trouble in the last unit (Montana) to the point we sold it quick and looking for a no slides unit. Live and learn.
Tiffin is suppose to be one of the best built brands. What a piece of. junk!!! Great job, your services saved your customer from making a really big mistake!
If everybody would do their research, you'd realize that over the years they've been getting worse and worse, just like your cars. Just like your washer and dryer, everything is inferior. There's no quality control anymore. Welcome to your American dream!
Once again the ELITE RV inspection team of America saves a buyer from making a mistake. How buyers still don’t get a third party inspection is beyond belief. BlueOx ROCKS!!!
Wow! Great work guys! We absolutely love following your channel. Great information and it is outstanding on how you dive into these RVs. When we get ready to purchase - we will be reaching out to you both. Thank you and safe travels.
I have to think that a buyer that has never seen your videos would never have caught 1/2 of the items you found. Glad the buyers found the BEST inspection team out there. Great inspection and video.
That sounds like a junk schwintek! No wonder the slide is jacked up! We got rid of a rv because the schwintek slide was junk, and it was brand new. Good inspection!!
Great inspection and great instincts. I completely agree with the gut feeling theory and my wife will remind me about it if I start to waiver on a shiny penny. Thanks for another awesome video. 👍🏼😎
It's fixable. Looks like the end stops and the slide aren't set right. The crack, however is a design flaw. The loose stuff inside can be fixed. I saw the $299,000 sign and think that none of this stuff should be present at this price and age of the RV.
Hey blue ox great video. My comment is totally unrelated. Just wanted to let you know I just had a person inspect my new motorhome last week that you guys went to school with,Mike Sklach. I had talked to you guys in the fall last year but the timing, logistics and distance was just too hard to pull off for us. Mike actually said you guys did his inspection on his first motorhome also. 😊
Yep! He actually told me; " if someone can do the job right, it's you" It would have been cheaper for him to fly down from PA to GA...but he wanted it done right 🤣🤣
U mean Friday build… the workers just wanted to be done and head home for the weekend so it got some crappy work…. Monday is when they are not in a rush and do it properly.
Definitely a bust. I ALWAYS stand outside, knock 3 times on the window, then my wife presses the slide button while I watch the 2 slides go out or come in. So far the ole 2004 Keystone Challenger has not let us down. I’ll keep cleaning the hydraulic cylinder and seals and keep right on a watching.
I’m goin crazy with so many bad new from all over many RV manufacturer. My wife and I was so close to buying what we call our budget investment. We were looking to buy out right a $300,250. Dollars RV home, No more then that! And he we are learning of the big mistakes we would have made if we would have purchased this type of investment. Frame flex, roof water leak, bad quality material. How is anyone going to trust these dealers that unfortunately don’t know what the manufacturer is sending them for an RV headache! 😳🙄
I WOULD BE PISSED OFF SPENDING $299,998 dollars and having these problems, then having to work with unethical people who make up lies to get out of the mess. Great job Blue Ox, your work saves many headaches.
Another Bust!!!! Wow did you see the price cuts at the Ocala show last weekend? Some of them were 50% off...soon it will be these companies will be auctioning them off to the highest bidder and people will still have a big hunk of junk. Sad situation the RV market has gotten into.
They do not 🙄. Driver parks it in the back, brings paperwork and keys, and leave. I don't think they would even notice if a window or the fridge was missing 🤔
I, Rick, always told my kids that you can hate what somebody has done but don’t hate them. There are so many things that could have influenced why that person did what they did. Bust
Never want anything built on a Monday.....or a Friday 😂 Seems to me that if they took a little more time on final inspection at the factory most of these problems could be avoided. And little problems quickly turn into big problems. Would love to see the end result of how these dealers deal with all the problems that are found during an inspection. I bet they would never want to appear on a video 😆 I really enjoy the videos....great job as always. 👍
The problem with a lot of them, the dealer don't even get to know all the problems. Customer just back out of the deal and dealer puts it back on the market for the next blind sucker not using an inspection team. We do not share with seller our findings. The customer owns the report. Seller didn't pay a dime on that report 🙂
I see by the sign on the microwave that the unit is listed at $300k. Those issues pointed out in the vid will develop into something worse long-term. This unit would be a no-go for me. Would the potential buyer have purchased the unit if they didn't have the inspection ...
What year is this (or did I miss that)? You say the owner sold after 11 months and it's 2024, so is this a 2023, 2022, 2021? Below the prospective buyers instead bought a 2018, so is this a COVID build? Was Tiffin quality that much better in 2018?
BUST, No go, why can't anybody ever see that the sideouts are out of adjustment at the factory!!! That just doesn't happen by itself??? Unless it get hung up on something going in or out, I think you would notice that I hope???? And the overhead compartment you couldn't see that? WOW!!! Good call on this one!!!
Lets say it was fine leaving the plant. Delivered 800 miles later at dealership, and nobody goes through the unit. Remember what PDI stands for? This is why I recommend an inspection! Too many humans involved in the process and none of us are perfect 🙂
I never purchased a vehicle that was built on a friday afternoon or monday period ...and in closing, my grandfather taught me in 1955 that me,myself and I was another name for the 3 stooge s ❤❤❤❤
New channel name suggestion...'Blue Ox On The RUN AWAY...FAST!' LOL. Wow, what a pile. And for $300K? Holy $hit man. Almost seems like the MORE you pay, the WORSE the quality! Shouldn't that be the other way around? I paid $51K (MSRP $63K) for my 2021 Flagstaff 5th wheel that's been flawless! That motorhome is junk, made for people who have to show off and have the fanciest top of the line stuff, even if it means the slide falls out into the parking lot or cabinets fall off while going down the road. Eh, just glue it back up there, who needs attached cabinetry anyway? Curious, do you guys ever find any good ones? Oh wait...I think I've seen that video...😅.
I really doubt this coach got out of Tiffin this way. This probably had to have the slides adjusted and the person that "adjusted" had no clue what he was doing... I have seen that: they pull the trims and fasteners put and when they assemble it back, they put back only 1/2 of the screws they took off .... These slide systems use the resistance the slide provides to know when stop, if the screws can't hold the slide will keep going and that is what we see here....
Since Tiffin sold the business, the quality has crashed but that’s the worst “quality” I have ever seen in a Tiffin. I bet the family is wishing their name was no longer on the product!
If it's ain't cracking, it ain't a Tiffin! They fix that by slapping a piece of trim over the crack. Slide problems? Well that means it has not made the after purchase trip to Red Bay for warranty repairs. Every Tiffin owner knows you have to visit Red Bay after purchase. Kitchen wall moving... if it did not move it would not be a Tiffin. Tiffins "flex" a little... you just have to live with it
You were leaving when?? Not with this one ever! Another PDI the equals probably didn't inspect.. Or maybe they, the dealership, thought they could find a person who wasn't smart enough to hire a great inspection team. Folks I can't say it enough always get a inspection done. Be smart like this customer was.
A big Red Flag , definitely something happen to the slide , was it the factory or the original owner? The slides have Major issues , Expensive Bust . I understand the dreaded call, how ever look at this way. for me i see it as a call of relief because ,you Blue Ox just saved Your customer's Bacon, Hooha
The money part, for me, is the easy part to announce and justify. The emotional disappointment, is the hardest part to deal with, as customers were already seeing themselves in it! We don't get used to " the call " 😁
It is Monday every day in sheety Elkhart Indiana they hire shelty people that are drug infested thats why RV s are on the side of the ROAD and the owners mad as hell
We were the buyers! And yes Patricia slip the bad word out. It was a bust and yes the Tiffin Phaeton’s was on our vision board. But that’s ok.
Pierre and Laurel did another inspection for us and it looks like we will be getting 2018 Tiffin Allegro Bus. The problems are fixed and we are picking it up Saturday morning. After we check to make sure are issues were fixed . New Windshield was already installed 2 days ago along with some other things. Fingers crossed!! Thank you Blue Ox
Congrats you guys...whoo hoo. Finally! You deserve it!
Remember to never settle 🙂
Wonderful
Congrats!
@@blueoxontherun9188not a doubt be deal yet. We have to see with our own eyes. Tomorrow we shall know. Thanks again
😘 fingers crossed 🤞
That's a lot of expensive repairs. Apparently the original owner gave up on trying to use the warranty and is now trying to dump it on the next buyer. And they can't be unaware of it. Wow.
Exactly what most of them do !!
Where the importance of digging and trying to find a Bone 😉😁
Slides, never trouble in our Triple E, always trouble in the last unit (Montana) to the point we sold it quick and looking for a no slides unit. Live and learn.
Tiffin is suppose to be one of the best built brands. What a piece of. junk!!! Great job, your services saved your customer from making a really big mistake!
Tiffin is not Tiffin anymore. Thor pulls the Strings and they are all about Low Quality and High Profits. (Except for this week)
We like to think so 😉
If everybody would do their research, you'd realize that over the years they've been getting worse and worse, just like your cars. Just like your washer and dryer, everything is inferior. There's no quality control anymore. Welcome to your American dream!
Bam!!! Exactly!!!
Consume and pay up the a..!
Wow, that was a crazy slide! So glad the buyers decided not to go with that unit. Great video!
If one doesn't maintain their unit, the next owner might get into an unknown money pit if they are not aware of the real condition!
Once again the ELITE RV inspection team of America saves a buyer from making a mistake. How buyers still don’t get a third party inspection is beyond belief. BlueOx ROCKS!!!
They might still believe in 🎅 Santa 🤣
What a shame for such a nice unit to have those problems. Good thing they called you!! 👍
Another money pit avoided 🙂
Its hard to build any thing when you are hooked on meth
I wouldn't know 😉 never tried it 😁
Ya gotta love Schwinteck slide units.
yikes that's crazy! So beautiful at a glance!
Right?
The amount of time you guys spend on inspecting units is just amazing! You are so knowledgeable and not afraid to share it. Which is amazing! ❤
We are humbled by your comments 🙏
That was a no brainier. Great inspection job as always. Thanks Don
Wow! Great work guys! We absolutely love following your channel. Great information and it is outstanding on how you dive into these RVs. When we get ready to purchase - we will be reaching out to you both. Thank you and safe travels.
Make sure to reach out and go visit our website 😊
www.blueoxrvinspection.com
I have to think that a buyer that has never seen your videos would never have caught 1/2 of the items you found. Glad the buyers found the BEST inspection team out there. Great inspection and video.
Thanks again for your support 🙏
We appreciate you 😊
Always informative and entertaining. Thanks
You're welcome 😊
That sounds like a junk schwintek! No wonder the slide is jacked up! We got rid of a rv because the schwintek slide was junk, and it was brand new. Good inspection!!
Thank you 😊
Imagine having to hire an inspector for a new car you should i bough a new truck and the door was flucked up would not close propertly
Sad 😔 😟 🙁
Great inspiration
Wow, just wow.
That unit needs to be junked. Love your videos!!!
Everyone should get an inspection.
😉😘
Great inspection and great instincts. I completely agree with the gut feeling theory and my wife will remind me about it if I start to waiver on a shiny penny. Thanks for another awesome video. 👍🏼😎
Intuition is a great tool. We actually use it a lot 😉...
One of the boxes my Winnebago EKKO checked for me was NO slides. Slides are a deal breaker for me.
It's fixable. Looks like the end stops and the slide aren't set right. The crack, however is a design flaw. The loose stuff inside can be fixed. I saw the $299,000 sign and think that none of this stuff should be present at this price and age of the RV.
Exactly the point 👉 fix stuff before asking these kind of prices. Not all buyers are suckers right??
Now you know why they only had it for a short time! Love your bloopers!
Now we know 😉😁
Sad that Tiffin would have so many problems.
Hey blue ox great video. My comment is totally unrelated. Just wanted to let you know I just had a person inspect my new motorhome last week that you guys went to school with,Mike Sklach. I had talked to you guys in the fall last year but the timing, logistics and distance was just too hard to pull off for us. Mike actually said you guys did his inspection on his first motorhome also. 😊
Yep! He actually told me; " if someone can do the job right, it's you"
It would have been cheaper for him to fly down from PA to GA...but he wanted it done right 🤣🤣
Good job guys
🙏 thanks
Beautiful coach. The slides are a big disappointment. Hopefully someone can resurrect it. Good catch👍
Most everyone are fixable. It's just a matter of how much energy one is willing to put in !
U mean Friday build… the workers just wanted to be done and head home for the weekend so it got some crappy work…. Monday is when they are not in a rush and do it properly.
Love the bloopers Pierre is a trip
I still don't know if she figured out I was trying to avoid giving the finger 🙃 🤣
Bust for me even before going inside . Keep up the Outstanding work .
Thanks Mr Eric 😊
There are seven mondays a week in an US RV manufacturer calendar...
Good one 👍 🤣🤣🤣
Great Video Bust! Do not walk, run from this!!!
Great big BUST!!
Definitely a bust. I ALWAYS stand outside, knock 3 times on the window, then my wife presses the slide button while I watch the 2 slides go out or come in. So far the ole 2004 Keystone Challenger has not let us down. I’ll keep cleaning the hydraulic cylinder and seals and keep right on a watching.
I could not buy a unit without you guys inspecting it! People please get it together🇺🇸❤️🤩 Blue Ox you rock.
We appreciate you 🙏
Definitely a bust! Look for a Tuesday built unit!Lol! You were leaving when? Another great video!
Thanks ☺️
WOW!
Wow! How disappointing that even a high end unit isn't set up correctly.
Right? For Sale ! Ready to go 😲
This is a bust. Great Job Pierre and Laurel! You guys saved these buyers a bunch of headaches.
That's the goal 😉😂
I’m goin crazy with so many bad new from all over many RV manufacturer. My wife and I was so close to buying what we call our budget investment. We were looking to buy out right a $300,250. Dollars RV home, No more then that! And he we are learning of the big mistakes we would have made if we would have purchased this type of investment. Frame flex, roof water leak, bad quality material. How is anyone going to trust these dealers that unfortunately don’t know what the manufacturer is sending them for an RV headache! 😳🙄
Great video this is a bust that is junk
I WOULD BE PISSED OFF SPENDING $299,998 dollars and having these problems, then having to work with unethical people who make up lies to get out of the mess. Great job Blue Ox, your work saves many headaches.
Some people still don't see the light 🙄🤣
Bust! Major problems...
Tiffin should have put hinges on the trim 😳
🤣🤣 right ?
Another Bust!!!! Wow did you see the price cuts at the Ocala show last weekend? Some of them were 50% off...soon it will be these companies will be auctioning them off to the highest bidder and people will still have a big hunk of junk. Sad situation the RV market has gotten into.
Greed makes people do weird things. Than they'll ask for forgiveness, and people will forget 🙄
$300k piece of junk, you wonder if the dealer checks units before they take them in? Great inspection guys!
They do not 🙄. Driver parks it in the back, brings paperwork and keys, and leave.
I don't think they would even notice if a window or the fridge was missing 🤔
I, Rick, always told my kids that you can hate what somebody has done but don’t hate them. There are so many things that could have influenced why that person did what they did. Bust
Shame on you Tiffen, where was QC that day?
It did go through QC..."Quick Check"😁
Never want anything built on a Monday.....or a Friday 😂 Seems to me that if they took a little more time on final inspection at the factory most of these problems could be avoided. And little problems quickly turn into big problems.
Would love to see the end result of how these dealers deal with all the problems that are found during an inspection. I bet they would never want to appear on a video 😆
I really enjoy the videos....great job as always. 👍
The problem with a lot of them, the dealer don't even get to know all the problems. Customer just back out of the deal and dealer puts it back on the market for the next blind sucker not using an inspection team.
We do not share with seller our findings. The customer owns the report. Seller didn't pay a dime on that report 🙂
@@blueoxontherun9188 sucker born every minute 😆 Unfortunate....but true. Your comprehensive inspections are priceless. Money well spent
Thanks for seeing the light 🙂
I see by the sign on the microwave that the unit is listed at $300k. Those issues pointed out in the vid will develop into something worse long-term. This unit would be a no-go for me. Would the potential buyer have purchased the unit if they didn't have the inspection ...
They probably would have as the dealership would have said...no worries, it's just aesthetic, we'll have it fixed 😉
Dog gone , I thought those were the only three folks I was competing against.😌
What year is this (or did I miss that)? You say the owner sold after 11 months and it's 2024, so is this a 2023, 2022, 2021? Below the prospective buyers instead bought a 2018, so is this a COVID build? Was Tiffin quality that much better in 2018?
2018 is typically of consistent higher quality then more recent years like 2021-22 considered Covid Era builds.
Tiffin has definitely gone downhill since Thor buy out.
How do you find an rv inspector and determine they are legit and not affiliated with dealers?
Interview and chemistry...
Go watch our playlist.
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Run baby run.
That’s a run for the hills!
😂😂. Great video
Thinking of you guys 😉
Hope all is good 👍 🙏
Bust! When the RV births the slide onto the pavement say Mazel Tov, it’s a boy!
🤣🤣
Thx for the big shout out from your other vedio . Its a bust .
BUST, No go, why can't anybody ever see that the sideouts are out of adjustment at the factory!!! That just doesn't happen by itself??? Unless it get hung up on something going in or out, I think you would notice that I hope???? And the overhead compartment you couldn't see that? WOW!!! Good call on this one!!!
Lets say it was fine leaving the plant. Delivered 800 miles later at dealership, and nobody goes through the unit. Remember what PDI stands for?
This is why I recommend an inspection! Too many humans involved in the process and none of us are perfect 🙂
Wow
Well we know now why they’re selling it!😂 Horrible that people try to get over on people especially on something so expensive!
The scary part....they will find a sucker 🥴
What a shame. Almost new and it is a bust
Darn that's a potential horror story in the middle of a dream vacation. Hope the seller or dealer fixes this before another buyer.
One can only dream 😉
Another one bites the dust!
I cannot believe that these people can put units like that on their lot for sale without at least testing them out. so sad.
Hopefully a few people will be able to see some of our videos to be more aware of the reality of the industry
It’s a Bust!!!!!!
Tiffin quality has gone south since they sold the Company. It’s disappointing to see how bad they’ve gotten.
Kent
Thanks for chiming me Mr Kent!
Love your HATERS, THEY are your biggest FAN’S
🤣🤣 right??
Tiffin oh Tiffin your quality is calling and you keep hanging up.
I think the QC phone line is disconnected or out of service 🤔
Can't believe how these dealers that try to sell rvs in that bad of shape !!!
Remember, there's a sucker born every minute.
Bust - C4BO ! 😎
Not for that price. Beautiful coach, but it has some major issues. No wonder the previous owner dumped it. I bet they did not get an inspection.
I'd guess the new the issues you think ??
c4bo, I hold my breath every time i extend or retract my full wall slide. This is a RUN don't walk away.
So do I 😆
I never purchased a vehicle that was built on a friday afternoon or monday period ...and in closing, my grandfather taught me in 1955 that me,myself and I was another name for the 3 stooge s ❤❤❤❤
🤣🤣
I'm Larry, this is Daryl and my other brother Daryl 😁
Amen ! Have a great weekend yall
Bust-O-Matic!
Oh love that 😁
New channel name suggestion...'Blue Ox On The RUN AWAY...FAST!' LOL. Wow, what a pile. And for $300K? Holy $hit man. Almost seems like the MORE you pay, the WORSE the quality! Shouldn't that be the other way around? I paid $51K (MSRP $63K) for my 2021 Flagstaff 5th wheel that's been flawless! That motorhome is junk, made for people who have to show off and have the fanciest top of the line stuff, even if it means the slide falls out into the parking lot or cabinets fall off while going down the road. Eh, just glue it back up there, who needs attached cabinetry anyway?
Curious, do you guys ever find any good ones? Oh wait...I think I've seen that video...😅.
That's THE ONE 🤣
👍🏼
I really doubt this coach got out of Tiffin this way.
This probably had to have the slides adjusted and the person that "adjusted" had no clue what he was doing...
I have seen that: they pull the trims and fasteners put and when they assemble it back, they put back only 1/2 of the screws they took off ....
These slide systems use the resistance the slide provides to know when stop, if the screws can't hold the slide will keep going and that is what we see here....
Since Tiffin sold the business, the quality has crashed but that’s the worst “quality” I have ever seen in a Tiffin. I bet the family is wishing their name was no longer on the product!
Can we all just admit that Slide Technology has never quite worked. The Technology has not progressed with the rest of these RV’s.
Right?? We fly people to the moon, we have internet, we FaceTime...not smart enough coming up with a system that works right??
wow, it looks like they were asking $300k for this disaster!? Def bust! C4BO
C4BO🥰
If it's ain't cracking, it ain't a Tiffin! They fix that by slapping a piece of trim over the crack.
Slide problems? Well that means it has not made the after purchase trip to Red Bay for warranty repairs. Every Tiffin owner knows you have to visit Red Bay after purchase.
Kitchen wall moving... if it did not move it would not be a Tiffin. Tiffins "flex" a little... you just have to live with it
🤣🤣🤣
Great that it was a bust, since that kind of Quality should never happen at those prices,
Exactly 😉
You were leaving when?? Not with this one ever! Another PDI the equals probably didn't inspect.. Or maybe they, the dealership, thought they could find a person who wasn't smart enough to hire a great inspection team. Folks I can't say it enough always get a inspection done. Be smart like this customer was.
You know as well as we do, they will find a sucker that doesn't get it inspected...people trust salespeople and dealership blindly 🙄
But, but it looks so pretty, like lipstick on a sals ear
Yeah, now we see why the owners are wanting to sell after owning less than a year. Bust.
Right??
C4BO!
Motorhomes no go
Let’s hope nothing major . Famous last words ! 😮 omg Beware Definitely a no go . Pitiful build quality from Tiffin yet again .
Scary right??
That's not a $1.75 RV. Too bad it't not of the quality normally associated with Tiffin
When thor bought tiffin the quality went out the back door they build nothing of quality
A big Red Flag , definitely something happen to the slide , was it the factory or the original owner? The slides have Major issues , Expensive Bust . I understand the dreaded call, how ever look at this way. for me i see it as a call of relief because ,you Blue Ox just saved Your customer's Bacon, Hooha
The money part, for me, is the easy part to announce and justify. The emotional disappointment, is the hardest part to deal with, as customers were already seeing themselves in it!
We don't get used to " the call " 😁
It is Monday every day in sheety Elkhart Indiana they hire shelty people that are drug infested thats why RV s are on the side of the ROAD and the owners mad as hell
Right?
Definitely a bust
Wow, what a piece of sh%t....
Another great inspection
It's a bust for me.
Right??
The GUT is real
Count on it !!
EVERY DAY LOW PRICE
$299,998
This ones borderline dilusional.👍
Right? 🙃