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  • @simpleman1546
    @simpleman1546 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Ordered mine today, getting it tomorrow. BS4 , AHO, rear disk, new graphics. Oh boy, I'm loving it. excited

    • @wonderingartist
      @wonderingartist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congratulations !!

    • @sanumondal4479
      @sanumondal4479 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Asif Ali how is ur bike performance???

    • @simpleman1546
      @simpleman1546 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rajesh Kaushik Thanks man

    • @simpleman1546
      @simpleman1546 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sanu Mondal It's been 3 weeks can't really test it until first service. But can say this, theirs a lot under that hood. Low end torque is really good.

    • @sanumondal4479
      @sanumondal4479 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Asif Ali any head light prb?

  • @akshayandangel
    @akshayandangel 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    gixxer rocks... highly recommended for a new bike seeker

  • @AbhishekMajumder87
    @AbhishekMajumder87 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice bike... and nice review.. yes.. the newer version of gixxy has improved a lot... thank u... :)

    • @prashantgupta7413
      @prashantgupta7413 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      nice bike bro very nice bike but i think this is not review this is ad

    • @prashanthnaik3902
      @prashanthnaik3902 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      prashant gupta do you tell me about this bike a little bit more. Because I wanna buy this bike very soon. Will you help me in this by saying about this

  • @HarishSingh-ly4nz
    @HarishSingh-ly4nz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    i have a some points of gixxer.
    pros
    (1) the mileage of gixxer is 50 to 53 running between (40 to 80kmph speed)
    (2) service charges of this bike when is free (Rs582) engine oil (Rs390), filter( Rs42 )or chain cleaner 150 add 300 Rs extra when your free service over.
    (3) engine like a very smooth not vibration when you riding between 80 to 110. kmph
    (4)performance is very good, ergonomics is very well. pickup is so good.
    (cons)
    according to me there is only one cons is Rear drum break.

    • @nitin7218
      @nitin7218 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Air filter costs around 160-170RS I guess. :D

    • @venkataramanapaila7992
      @venkataramanapaila7992 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      maximum accessories of gixxer are very pocket friendly ... and yes indeed filter costs u around 40-50 rs only .. :)

    • @simpleman1546
      @simpleman1546 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Harish Singh Cons is fixed, new gixxer ordered today, rear disk brake now standard with bs4.

    • @rishiuppal001
      @rishiuppal001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Asif Ali hey bro. Have you got your new gixxer? How's the headlight? Is it enough light for night riding or just the average one?

    • @simpleman1546
      @simpleman1546 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rishi Uppal TBH, i found the headlights more than sufficient for night riding, but still that shouldn't be a problem even if you need to change them , you can get projector headlights Under 1k, bike is the best with zero cons, brakes front (bybre) and rear wooo hoo (nissin). Comfortable, good mileage, and looks like mini GSXR :) Go for it.

  • @altraix
    @altraix 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey the suspension(rear) is adjustable so belly scrap can be minimized.check the rear bro

  • @deepprakashsingh1281
    @deepprakashsingh1281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time hear one get less mileage on highway than city...
    BTW way of review was awesome...

  • @shaunroberts6025
    @shaunroberts6025 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    had mine for a year too. still goes like how it went the first time. my tires are about to be replaced though. i've been riding it quite hard......always. it puts most 150 cc's to shame for the price, power, handling and fuel economy. and for those who think my comment or this video is biased, you haven't tried a gixxer much less kick it's ass.

    • @seepranavg
      @seepranavg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      finally... is it worth the price?

    • @shaunroberts6025
      @shaunroberts6025 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      absolutely

    • @AbirSpeaking
      @AbirSpeaking 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      will it last long...?? I am worried, I don't want to spoil my hard earned money.. and should I go for sf .???

    • @shaunroberts6025
      @shaunroberts6025 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it's a reliable bike buddy. just make sure you maintain it. any bike you neglect will not love you back.

    • @kantizx1
      @kantizx1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hardly take care of my bike other than giving it for a timely service. The Gixxer is running solid for more than last 2 years. I just had to change the rear sprocket once that too because of my negligence.

  • @tlewisin
    @tlewisin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Triple digit speed all the time 😂

    • @manoja538
      @manoja538 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fastest Indian😂

  • @sparklysparks77
    @sparklysparks77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review/ad! Hello all, I am looking forward to buying this motorcycle, but is there anything new about the 2017 version other than the colors in the naked version? One would expect improvements such as the suspension issue over speed bumps or clunky shifting or any engine stress present at higher revs. I would second Ravi below on the fact that a better engine oil can make a difference on shifting. I am still doubtful on giving up 6th gear on my 2015 GS150r. Please advise...

  • @Bro-td6yt
    @Bro-td6yt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is the best bike in india 👍

  • @moirangthemvishalsingh
    @moirangthemvishalsingh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The headlights point was helpful.. I have the latest gixxer which I bought yesterday

  • @mypartnow6771
    @mypartnow6771 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    according to me .
    my gixxer giving me 52km/l .
    and the gear shift is difficult ..
    and head light ...something wrong with when high bheem...

    • @Aziz0938
      @Aziz0938 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      High Bheem😅

    • @sameer40679
      @sameer40679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u get back pain in long raid bro . because i am confused of buying gixxer or intruder 150?

    • @koleynilesh
      @koleynilesh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sharuk Sameer how tall r u? no back pain at all even during long rides.

  • @tanumay_ray
    @tanumay_ray 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    please reply
    i am little confused about gixxer and apache 180.
    which one is better?

  • @1993dragonite
    @1993dragonite 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    did he just say that he gets more mileage in the city than on the highway

  • @robinjohn4631
    @robinjohn4631 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please don't use motul mineral oil provided by Suzuki service center. It will not do justice to your bike performance. Please use motul 300v 10w40 fully synthetic engine oil with Easter core patented technology which is made in France and mostly used in high end bikes. It will make your bike hard gear shift smooth, reduce vibration at triple digit speed, make your engine cool and stress free on low high traffic city speed and improve your bike mileage in a big way. In short it will depend upon your riding skills. Don't forget to tighten your bike chain and apply bike chain spray after every three weeks.

  • @revzzrider
    @revzzrider 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    how can sum1 forget harder gear shifts on gixxer :P :P
    upgrade to motul 7100 10w40 engine oil after 5-6k on odo

    • @arunpj8464
      @arunpj8464 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dose it really make difference bro?? shifts are smooth??

    • @swapnilbisht6489
      @swapnilbisht6489 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      all issues have been resolved in dual tone gixxers , i own one and gear shifts are smooth!!

    • @shivamsardana7160
      @shivamsardana7160 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes the gear shift is slightly on the hard side, but what the hell!

    • @arjunmohandas5695
      @arjunmohandas5695 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ravi Utkarsh ReVzZ Rider Gear shift os smooth now on the dual tone ...

    • @sparklysparks77
      @sparklysparks77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, so is there anything new about the dual tone version other than the colors? One would expect improvements such as the suspension issue over speed bumps or clunky shifting or any engine stress present at high revs, BUT was anything changed over 1st year batch other than the colors Arjun? I would second Ravi on the fact that a better engine oil can make a difference on shifting... Cheers from Mexico. :)

  • @montoo69
    @montoo69 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent review... refrain from triple digits... :-)

  • @kitwalker2103
    @kitwalker2103 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is actually a bike with great pickup....i remenber feelin dizzy while trying out the GixxerSF

    • @seepranavg
      @seepranavg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      why dizzy?

    • @kitwalker2103
      @kitwalker2103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pranav I just felt that way as was not used to the pickup

  • @anilkumarmahanandia7208
    @anilkumarmahanandia7208 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    tell true about milage city 42 or Highway 32-38 .......r u .......pfff

  • @Aatma_darsan
    @Aatma_darsan ปีที่แล้ว

    My Gixxer after 50k range
    Give mileage 56 on highway
    50 in city 👌

  • @mariagabriel9488
    @mariagabriel9488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best part of this programs Arthi...

  • @ABHISHEKTHAKUR-my6jc
    @ABHISHEKTHAKUR-my6jc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how is it that someone is getting less mileage on highway than city?

  • @prantikdey9611
    @prantikdey9611 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice video... i want to buy a used bike under 50k... for long rides... I have considered fz, gixxer, unicorn150, pulsar 150,180,220.. please suggest a reliable low maintenance bike.. thanks

  • @pcjojy
    @pcjojy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to me the main problem is the head light, the power is low and the absence of ABS.

    • @MonishJohnson
      @MonishJohnson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jojy Cherian Yeah i agree with dual disc and high speed engine, ABS would had been better.

  • @RydoGear
    @RydoGear 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wohooo Ishan Bro, Bangalore Bikers (Y)

  • @mayurraj9989
    @mayurraj9989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which is better ninja 300 abs or Duke 390 2017 for touring and commuting

  • @IshanMahajan
    @IshanMahajan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gixxer is better than Hornet in terms of performance. Hornet pickup is not that good and it vibrates on high speeds. Hornet has better styling and fatter rear tyre. Thats my personal observation/feedback.
    I use shell 10w40 semi synthetic oil since second service and shell normal petrol whenever possible.
    I feel the bike run smoother on shell oil and petrol.

  • @ajaykrishna3098
    @ajaykrishna3098 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which is the best engine oil for gixxer motul or liqui moli?¿

  • @khaledshuvo3530
    @khaledshuvo3530 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there anyone who can give me the actual measurement of valve clearance of this bike. I want to know the exact measurement badly.. please reply.. please give me a written reference too

  • @karanchavan6819
    @karanchavan6819 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have also gixxer 155 ... it's good for a ride ....In diz bike is good engine and also a good handling. ... mileage is also good...
    If you want a new bike aground 100000 rs...may be a suzuki gixxer is your first choice guys...

  • @prantikdey9611
    @prantikdey9611 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    which is a better bike ns160 or gixxer in terms of engine and vibrations..

  • @musicbeatswithneel8906
    @musicbeatswithneel8906 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make a video on the ownership experience of harley davidson street 750

  • @sumitmukherjee8975
    @sumitmukherjee8975 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any heating issues during long rides? I mean it's air-cooled rite?

  • @VinothKumar-sp2tc
    @VinothKumar-sp2tc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everything is ok.. Worst service experience from suzuki.. They can't arrest oil leak.. Even after the 8 services..

  • @arunanderson5903
    @arunanderson5903 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hii bro which one now I choose gixxer sf abs or r15v2.0 plxzzz tell
    Me

  • @sureshkumarsb4315
    @sureshkumarsb4315 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro for how much kilometer can i ride the bike continuously in highway.
    If the speed is more than 100kmph how much kilometers it can run continuously.
    In highway if i ride it for say 200km and give it a rest means how much time the engine rest time must be.

  • @godisgreat4430
    @godisgreat4430 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will buy gixxer sf .. as maintance cost is low ..

  • @frederickcamacho7840
    @frederickcamacho7840 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    He"s right about the rear suspension being soft. Can't support a back rider. Rear tire almost touching the fender/ mud guard..

    • @sameer40679
      @sameer40679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u get back pain in long raid bro . because i am confused of buying gixxer or intruder150?

  • @BilalKhan-eg2cm
    @BilalKhan-eg2cm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its not possible to remember specification after one year???

  • @arunanderson5903
    @arunanderson5903 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this bike 2 pillion rider can sit in back that give any problems to bike

  • @AmanKumar-sn3cg
    @AmanKumar-sn3cg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i want a invitation of to give riview on gixxer sf ....i bought it on 31 march 2016...around 16000km

    • @nagendrabharti340
      @nagendrabharti340 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      king ki vines mailage plese.

    • @sameer40679
      @sameer40679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u get back pain in long raid bro . because i am confused of buying gixxer or intruder?

  • @bahartarek548
    @bahartarek548 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's just like as racing bike.

  • @hardikchotaliya2325
    @hardikchotaliya2325 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Gixxer mileage is 40km/l (speed 40 to 55). When I drives in sporty way it's give me 25km/l (speed 65 to 80 or next last limit). why It's too difference between my bike to other bike? I drive my bike 0 to 2200km in 35 to 40km/h. Now I drive my bike 40 to 55 km/h still give me 40km/h. I also want to drive my bike on sporty way but I can't because it's give 25km/l mileage. Help Me..........................

    • @agnidiptodey7362
      @agnidiptodey7362 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hardik Chotaliya you should go to the service centre...i am getting 48-52 kmpl

  • @parwezkhan3594
    @parwezkhan3594 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Friends is it worth to buy in 2017 other than hornet?????

    • @AmanKumar-sn3cg
      @AmanKumar-sn3cg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      na bro....hornet is better....honda man

  • @mohdshoaib6625
    @mohdshoaib6625 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro approximately ON ROAD price Kya hai ??..

  • @akshayanvekar811
    @akshayanvekar811 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    quikr please also post the gixxer sf 2016 long term review

  • @alphatrendzz2256
    @alphatrendzz2256 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    air filter remove low mileage or high milage

    • @ashukum7682
      @ashukum7682 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      shameer khan low milage

  • @swagatochakroborty6358
    @swagatochakroborty6358 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    please upload a CB hornet 160r owner ship review

  • @md.sahidalamchowdhury2259
    @md.sahidalamchowdhury2259 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am 5.4" Is it Suitable For me

  • @sivar567
    @sivar567 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speeometer is working?

  • @lalchhandamangente9669
    @lalchhandamangente9669 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Suzuki Gixer .I am very admire you. But, I have no money for buying Gixer ....I need for a Suzuki Gixer buy for 1 lakh .

  • @bishalparajuli2438
    @bishalparajuli2438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can zixxer face offroad please tell..

  • @rohanmartin6663
    @rohanmartin6663 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is worse than those cheapo tv adds

  • @slv670
    @slv670 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    after 15,000kms does the gixxer engine causes any problems or vibrations or wierd noises?

  • @manibharathi6268
    @manibharathi6268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have u faced engine oil leakage issue?

    • @avim4896
      @avim4896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only if you drive constantly at 100. Happens to all bikes

  • @ashiqats3387
    @ashiqats3387 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice bike..I like it

  • @lalchhandamangente9669
    @lalchhandamangente9669 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Suzuki Gixer . I admire . can you free give me only one please because i have no any money ..sir please free give for me Gixer.

  • @Abtayade
    @Abtayade 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    helpful

  • @sameer40679
    @sameer40679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    did he get back pain
    ??

  • @9722846279
    @9722846279 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    please Gixxer sf long term review

  • @sandipsonawane1732
    @sandipsonawane1732 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yamaha fz fi version 2.0 ka bhi review kijiye madem

  • @anilsonu1128
    @anilsonu1128 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mileage kithna detha bhaiya ye ghadi...?

  • @blacklover7534
    @blacklover7534 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    + Quikr Cars , Yamaha FZ-S ka bhi video banao.

  • @salmansk4837
    @salmansk4837 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Salman khan bike suzuki

  • @devakesham8167
    @devakesham8167 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @mohammedamaanhashmi6867
    @mohammedamaanhashmi6867 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the milage of gixxer ....?

  • @swagatochakroborty6358
    @swagatochakroborty6358 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Want a CB hornet review

  • @anindyabagchi27
    @anindyabagchi27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gixxer 155 not 150.

  • @gobindaroy9150
    @gobindaroy9150 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    best1 under 150cc bike

  • @bigjaw93
    @bigjaw93 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant agree more

  • @justasapien9039
    @justasapien9039 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ground clearance sucks in this bike

  • @kaleelrahman8945
    @kaleelrahman8945 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    பின்இருக்கை போதிய வசதி இல்லை

    • @sameer40679
      @sameer40679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u get back pain in long raid bro . because i am confused of buying gixxer or intruder150?

  • @WilliamVJacob
    @WilliamVJacob 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have taken my gixxer more places than him

    • @sameer40679
      @sameer40679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u get back pain in long raid bro . because i am confused of buying gixxer or intruder150?

  • @mariagabriel9488
    @mariagabriel9488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah kya dubbing karathe hai kya

  • @Royal_5665
    @Royal_5665 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It takes 17 seconds for 0-100 kmph , very sluggish according to me

    • @Royal_5665
      @Royal_5665 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** it's fake. Calculate on Vbox

    • @MonishJohnson
      @MonishJohnson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jalam Singh Rajput lol my gixxer took 11.5 seconds to reach 100

    • @abinavram9774
      @abinavram9774 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jalam Singh Rajput yeah this guy was measuring it.

    • @INVINCIBLEONE
      @INVINCIBLEONE 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Monish Johnson speedo error

    • @koleynilesh
      @koleynilesh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      get a gixxer 1000 and you won't and the only thing you'll find sluggish will be your reaction to click brakes!

  • @garryhunjan8185
    @garryhunjan8185 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    gixer की पिछली seat बहूत छोटी होती है, non comfortable। क्या कोई इतनी छोटी सीट पर बैठ सकता है, अगर यकीन नहीं आ रहा तो test drive ले सकते हो आप किसी को पीछे बिठाकर।

    • @MonishJohnson
      @MonishJohnson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honey Hunjan agr khud ka liya kharid rhe ho toh Gixxer sahi hai. Agr girlfriend ko bathana hai toh BMW kharid loh😝

    • @garryhunjan8185
      @garryhunjan8185 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Monish Johnson .lagta aapko malum nahi k sports bike par apni gf ko bhi bitha sakte hai, ha agar vo gixer na jo.

    • @rajeevshukla8815
      @rajeevshukla8815 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      moni biwi or gf ka koi plan nahi ha kya tera ,,,,Highly uncomfortable pillion seat,,,,,,,,

  • @tarunbhatt5003
    @tarunbhatt5003 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    biased review

  • @kingofdeath509
    @kingofdeath509 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scripted bro

  • @meerwal1511
    @meerwal1511 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    gixxer is giving me only 18-20 kmpl

    • @mumbaidrift5953
      @mumbaidrift5953 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Meerwal 15 must be using gixxer 1000cc

    • @kantizx1
      @kantizx1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Daya kuch toh gadbad hain.

  • @Shreyaghoshal19844
    @Shreyaghoshal19844 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    2.80 lakhs in Bangladesh 😂

    • @garryhunjan8185
      @garryhunjan8185 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bangladeshi Biker। haha। it's because indian currency value bigger then bangladesh, pakistan, srilanka, nepal.

    • @garryhunjan8185
      @garryhunjan8185 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saikat Chakraborty. lungi pehan kar kaise bike ride kroge

    • @khaledshuvo3530
      @khaledshuvo3530 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry bro .. see the currency rate.. rarely defer. Main cause is tax. 155% for 150 cc...

  • @deepjyotidas550
    @deepjyotidas550 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aapki duniya ulti hai jinko highway me mileage kam milte hai

  • @deepjyotidas550
    @deepjyotidas550 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aap ulta chashmah se duniya dekhte hai

  • @deenmohammedsaddam8624
    @deenmohammedsaddam8624 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    DINMOHMED

  • @karthik_thelappygamer2383
    @karthik_thelappygamer2383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bakwas bike... Bad build quality, unsuitable for pillion, FZ is much better...

  • @1993dragonite
    @1993dragonite 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    did he just say that he gets more mileage in the city than on the highway

    • @whitehat5061
      @whitehat5061 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shanoo .R I had the exact same doubt... but lyk he said... if u go on triple(😂) digits mostly he gets that mileage

    • @wonderingartist
      @wonderingartist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As per my experience my gixxer gives me minimum 44-46 on highways even if i ride continuously at around 90-100. The minimum i got so far was 38kmpl with a pillion.

    • @MegaSandeep89
      @MegaSandeep89 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rajesh Kaushik does the engine feel stressed on 90 kmph

    • @wonderingartist
      @wonderingartist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 80-90 it feels very smooth !!

    • @Leomessifanbylife
      @Leomessifanbylife 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rajesh Kaushik exactly dude

  • @bishalparajuli2438
    @bishalparajuli2438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can zixxer face offroad please tell..