@MarineX watched it again, yea 2 of those three, the bugout and freak both are illegal because of name trademarks, even without the emblem. Those are counterfeit.
The fact that a cloning company can almost make an exact copy of the more expensive knife for a fraction of the price and still make profit is crazy. I’m not again it though. Crap is too expensive today. Who am I to judge someone for wanting to get the real thing but gets a knockoff instead because it’s cheaper. Go for it.
Facts, not everyone can pay what Benchmade is asking and need a cheap knife to use to work with. Honestly, no one owns the design for a knife , so unless materials and markings are exact, who cares. I buy good knives for my collection, and cheap ones for work, because they all break doing what I do, so I'd prefer to break the cheap one.
@@beentheredonethat5908 There are a lot of knife designs that are patented... There are also plenty of good budget knives that aren't copied/stolen designs. If you're breaking pocket knives at work... then you are using the wrong tool.
@caliginousmoira8565 I have a spyderco Shaman clone that ended up this way. Real one is sitting in my safe and the clone has been riding in my pocket regularly for the last 2 years. Better action with bearings instead of bushings, edge retention is great, lock up super solid. $40 for the clone vs $350 for the real shaman
How were you able to tell it was fake. I got one a while ago that just seemed really poor quality but had everything the same as another one I purchased a year before that.
This was a waste Amazon isn’t “cloning them” there simply just making a knife very similar that’s like saying Chevy is copying off of ford for making a truck yes similar but they’re not putting logos trying to portray the real thing if you have a little bit of brains you know your not getting a real good quality knife for 10$ on Amazon regardless if it looks like a spider co or kershaw or Benchmade whatever could just be Somone tht needs a simple tool to cut and that’s what these are there not tryna flex especially since there not using the real logos like Ali express and stuff… and they have clones down to a t now that’s scamin not this all it is is just a pair of Nikes compared to Payless at the end of the day .. and it will cut Karen’s envelopes open
@@yourgirlkeepcolin22 I paid almost $300 for the knife as I intend to pay for a true Benchmade and was sent a fake/replica instead of what I paid for. I hear what you're saying but that isn't/wasn't the case for me.
I purchased a “940” on Amazon once. When it arrived it came in a fake Benchmade box with no Benchmade sock containing the knife. Alarm bells and red lights were flashing. When I actually opened the knife the blade was marked 154CM and the Butterfly insignia was way too big. The 940 blade was originally made of 154CM but that was 20 years ago. I sent it back to Amazon immediately.
I would normally agree with you on this however, I make exception for Benchmade. American made or not, when you are asking me for $400 for a product China can make a barely or marginally inferior product for $25...you deserve to loose business to knock offs. I thoroughly enjoy the Amazon carbon fiber "Bugout knife" I just received. I will never hand over my money to insane, ridiculous and anti consumer Benchmade. Nothing justifes the prices they ask.
Totally agreed here. Benchmade opened the door for this issue when they decided to gouge the consumer by severely marking up their prices but maintain (or even decreasing) the quality given. Screw Benchmade. I love the fakes. I have several fake Claymores and like 5 fake Bugouts. Love them all!!! And all of my fakes which I have about 8 or 9, still don’t even come out to the asking price of a Claymore on the Benchmade website ($260). Clone or outright fake, I dont care. I will buy the fakes any day over the rip off real things.
My exact sentiments. There is a $25 "iridium" knife on Amazon now, and I would never buy it, when I could get the real one for $60. But I don't mind using a $40 bugout clone, because "GFY Benchmade!!" ...$280!?!?!
I'm at the point where if they are cloning humans who cares about a knife. Some people can't afford over priced knives.. Benchmade is the knife of the past anyway.
I just received a knife from Amazon called a thumb stud bugout ,,believe me it is exactly like a bench made , but it has no markings on it , yes it is d2 steel , and I like it better than my real bugout. It works great if sharp as shit Action is great centering is great $24 on Amazon. I give no shit I’m gonna buy more of these fuck bench made I’m tired of spending 180+ for knives that aren’t worth of shit anyways.
Dirtbag here... bugout clones are great for a few reasons. Same knife, just different steels and plastics used to build it. It's cheaper by 10 times so if you ruin it a few dollars can replace it. Fun to sharpen and won't break the bank if you ruin it and need another. It's entertaining to tell people you have a Benchmade then whip it out and see if they are smart enough to tell the difference and they are identical looking. The paint used to coat the screws will wear off easier than the real deal but I just need a knife the paint isn't important and the blade has good paint
I bought a cold steel Natchez Bowie off of Amazon for 40.00 thinking the seller didn't know what they had. In a cold steel box, had the correct cold steel logos on the blade but on close examination was a fake. Told cold steel about it and they said they were coming from China and was a big problem, the same for Benchmade, Kershaw, zero tolerance etc,etc.
The title is a little misleading, it's not illegal to clone a knife, it's illegal to counterfeit a knife. I bought some clones on Amazon that don't claim to be a Benchmade, they're just a clones, and I don't lose a minute of sleep over it.
In many cases clone's quality is much higher than its price. There are really good Benchmade clones out there, especially the carbon fiber and titanium versions.
Ok, box says bugout..that's definitely on the edge of illegal (could actually be). It doesn't have the Benchmade emblem..so technically....but still they are playing on the edge... The bigger question is, why not by a ganzo?
Dude, if you wanna be a Benchmade fan boy, you go right ahead. If you wanna spend HUNDREDS of dollars for ONE folding pocket knife, go right ahead. I have bought a few fake Benchmade knives that say Benchmade on them, same logo, even try and replicate the box, even have the cloth the knives come in. I have no intention of telling ANYONE they're real. I don't want anyone to think I'm stupid enough to buy the real bullshit. The otf I got was junk, but for 20 bucks, who fuckin cares?? The two automatic knives I got, a mini stimulus and a Claymore tanto are nice as can be for 20 bucks! If I bought a real one, it would never leave the house and never get used. As it is, I carry the Stimulus every day and it's a decent knife. I'd much rather have Tue fake shit anyday bud. ANY DAY. The real scum bags are the people at BM who think it's okay to charge 200-500 bucks for a damn knife. They're name don't mean shit to me. That's all you're paying for. I also have read and heard LOTS of complaints from real Benchmade owners of all kinds of problems. I have several more fake Benchmades on the way. I personally don't give two shits if it "hurts business" for BM. They hurt their own business by up charging their product 1,000 percent what it costs to produce. I'm sorry, but a "bug out," a plastic folding pocket knife does NOT cost 200 bucks to make. They're full of shit, but people but it so they charge it. In a world where groceries are ridiculously expensive, these knife companies are worthless. I swear Benchmade fan boys are even worse than Glock fan boys. It's like they're actually proud to pay, stupid ass prices for their shit. Like they feel like they're better than everyone else because they paid 1,000 times what the product cost to make. Wow. How anyone could defend some rich, way overcharging corporation is beyond me. That's like paying out the ass for groceries and then being a snob about it like they're smarter for paying way more than they should. Benchmade has a PRACTICE butterfly knife, PRACTICE you can't use it for anything except to practice flipping it around. It's 350 fucking DOLLARS!!! I thoroughly enjoy my fakes and can't wait for the new ones to arrive. I just hope others do it too. Go to Wish y'all, they have the cheapest prices.
I have no problem at all with the first one. Benchmade didn’t create that knife profile (or any of their knife profiles for that matter), and too many people are quick to scream “Benchmade clone” at almost every knife that even slightly resembles a Benchmade (which all resemble countless knives before them). I wouldn’t necessarily have a problem with the last two if they weren’t using the Benchmade names. That’s blatant intent to deceive and it’s wrong and it should be stopped. The fact that the build quality and action of the fake Bugout is so close to the real thing is a bit of an indictment on Benchmade and shows how overpriced their knives really are in my opinion. If someone can manufacture a knife that is so similar (steel notwithstanding) for a fraction of the price then it says to me that people are paying as much for a cute little butterfly logo as anything else. That said, I won’t be buying any of these clones, or any Benchmades for that matter.
The fact that they change up those knives at all makes them legal. They aren't portraying anything Benchmade and don't have the Trademark on the knife or the box.
I very recently lost my Benchmade Bugout, with custom G10 scales, at a hotel during a business trip. I’m buying another real Bugout to replace it, and an Amazon clone for travel…just now decided.
Honestly there isn’t much of anything proprietary about knives. Benchmades axis lock patent is up, I believe which is why more companies are using it, and you can’t patent blade shapes or handle shapes. Clones are always going to happen especially if anything is made in china. Some companies have to agree on sharing tech when having something made in china and often times things get ripped off and cloned. In this case chances are it’s legal. Less likely to be legal is if a seller says they’re selling a genuine benchmade at a benchmade price and shipping clones.
I'm glad to finally have joined the battalion. Your content is the realist for those of us into the EDC world. So thank you for that. It's nice to have the incite to help make smarter decisions when it comes to my daily loadout. So glad you #exposed the fakes brother and i look forward to hearing you run your grape as part of your company. Stay keeping it real!
@@MarineXyeah but they're not branding on the knife, so the knife is not a counterfeit, the box is a counterfeit, but everyone is going to know if the knife doesn't have the branding them, it's not a counterfeit, if someone's dumb enough to buy a knife that doesn't say Benchmade on it and think that's a Benchmade well I feel sorry for them. Lol
I bought bugout clone before i bought the real one, and trust me, the clone one gets all the abuse and since the real one is so expensive, i dont even wanna use it. Its kind of like precious little piece of steel sitting in my drawer. I would rather buy, use and abuse the $25 knife and honestly they hold up pretty well. They say its 440 steel, dont know if its A or C but it works really well for my everyday tasks.
We need clones. Can you afford to go to the grocery store and only by the name brand? Do you never by the stores brand clones? No different than buying Walmart Great Value over the name brand. Makes products affordable for everyone. Plus I'm a knife user. I don't want to pay $200 for quote super steels. My grandfather taught me how to sharpen a knife.
I lost all respect for Benchmade when I seen how much they are asking for the “Narrows”, they aren’t the same company they once were, they are taking advantage of people who don’t know very much about materials, they deserve to have to compete with people making clones, they did it to themselves…💯😏
Its hard for me to tell who is the bad guy, the company selling you a knife 25x more than it's worth, or someone selling the same knife for what it's really worth. Also I was listening to someone speak saying that stats show the clones actually help the real companies once you have a clone of your product it boosts the sales like advertisment I suppose.
Go out in your garage and make a knife. Iv got all the tools to do it now. When your knife is done. Tell me how many man hours you have into it? Then tell me who's selling the knife at the real price. Do you want to be a slave for the gov and work for 20 cents an hour or do you want to work for yourself and charge a price that earns you a living?
@@MarthaTorres-gu7vd I literally don't understand how people don't get this. It's not just completely that Benchmade is screwing you but that the Chinese company is using inferior steel and basically slave labor. I get that there's a disconnect because we don't live there and don't have to deal with it but that's what you're supporting along with less decent paying manufacturing jobs here to be able to afford nice things.
Clones arent bad but counterfeit are. The problem is we are getting inferior knife quality such as knife steel which could be more prone to rust or doesnt hold an edge or just not as hard. Once of these knife may say S30V or S90V but what steel are we really getting? So you may be getting inferior quality at premium price.
I like buying the clones to see if I want to spend the near 300$ on the real thing. Check the feel and comfort with the cheap and then get the real. I think of it as a cheap throwaway test drive.
The long name doesn't really mean much as it's not really just a name. It's the combination of the types of steel, VG-10, 440C or ATS-34. Hardness and/or edge retention MOHS Scale or HCR AKA: Rockwell Hardness Scale. You also have proprietary steel names like Magnacut. It becomes a pain in ur arse, when makers assume those buying their knives will know this. Though, it is true throwing them together can be a warning sign. To identify these, it's a good idea to become familiar with all the different meanings. Most think it's too much trouble but when your dropping $200 plus on a single knife you should damn well better know what your buying. Most scammers are clueless about this and the names make no sense.
i work as a mechanic, my main EDC is Victorinox Huntsman and Kershaw Funxion, but i did get myself a Benchmade bugout mini off wish, just as a blade i wont feel sorry destroying at work, and out of sheer curiousity, and its a complete replica from the feel to the logo on the blade, and im impressed with the 1 to 1 replica for 5$ i would rather get the real thing, but damn those chinese are just getting too good with making fakes that you cant tell the difference
I have had the bm 4300 in black. It is 98%the same as the real deal. Great action. All I did was switch the washers got rid of the white plastic. Open and closes muy Bueno.. It came super sharp and it was 3bmonthhs b4 I needed to sharpen it... Best 35 I ever spent.... It's not a Benchmade but it's still a great 35 dollar knife.... To each their own. 96% of all knives are produced by "Gina" anyways.
anyways, Benchmade knives are overrated and overpriced for what they are...the bugout is just flimsy plastic trash...just a brainwashing marketing product...period.
I’m not worried about Benchmade losing money AT ALL! Donating to Anti-2A politicians. AND NO I WONT GET OVER IT! In fact I’m gonna go buy some of these
Dude sounds like hes the ceo of bm i own the Amazon bug out Version and its far far from trash its a great knife i bought a few at 25 bucks a pop vs a wayyy over priced "look at me bm" people got more money than sence imo
Supporting the loss of American manufacturing jobs that allow us to be afford nice things and the near slave labor practices of China. Yep you got all the sense.
This seems perfect for people experimentating... Changing blade shapes, changing grinds, Rits Dye, acid etching, etc. 🤔 Copying the name and logo and charging Benchmade prices is definitely not cool tho
not sure how clones are a bad thing or make someone a dirtbag for buying them, they prove how much people are paying for branding and gives people options. blatant counterfeits are scummy, clones is just how the market works. its not that deep
And this is coming from a guy that has thousand dollar knives OK I got Chris reeves knives and a lot of other ones and these so-called fake or whatever you wanna call them they were great so why wouldn’t I buy them?
You lie, it feels exatly the same when the open and close, banchmade are way to expesive for a knife that is half plastic, 280 dollar is more expensive that any leatherman.
Buy the clone and the real and you will feel the difference I have bought some clones ,bug out and 940 osborne but I give them away I own 25 real Benchmade knives and you will know the difference, a cheap knife to beat up vs paying 300 for the real to beat up ,well ..I'm also a knife collector so sometimes it's just morbid curiosity to see and pissing away 30 bucks on a clone vs drinking it away or worse then gifting it to someone less fortunate and spark there interest in quality stuff????
I normally wouldn't entertain buying a clone. Especially a tool like my EDC knife. But Benchmade has gotten out of pocket with their prices. Id rather 10 clones in 440c(8cmov13 is Chinese version of 440) than 1 mid Benchmade. I have 2 real mini bugouts and a mini grip. And the normal size like alot people. A real Benchmade feels like it's cheaply made cause it is. Id b surprised if it cost Benchmade more $10 to make a model. That's after recouping development cost and paying american worker. S30v steel isn't that expensive. Id imagine it isn't even $1 in material. After a few yrs they should b cheaper. Or come with a offer the buy a exclusive knife at good price. Something. They only offer extended sharpening and service. But hold a $200 bugout and compare to another american made lite weight knife. Like the southern grind spider monkey. U can really see where Benchmade is making us pay for the name not the quality. I'm like that. I don't buy Nike cause of that. If u know anything u know your not getting a real Benchmade for $24. And if u knowledgeable about knives you will know with the action,feel and screws. But the quality is matching
A clone that portrays itself as an original is a fake. Why use the same box and advertisement. If you think a fake is trying to not undermine our economy then buy "cloned" $100.00 dollar bills and tell treasury it's OK.
Exposed! One of favorite knife designers is Serge Panchenko, and Amazon has straight up shady ass clones right down to the logo of some of his knives. Clones piss me off, it’s one thing to make an obvious copy that’s not the real thing (still shady, but the world sucks) but putting an actual makers mark on a fake makes me want to burn factories down.
Wasn't it Rolex that had the marketing campaign that said "Fake watches are for fake peope." If you don't have money for a Rolex or Benchmade that's fine, then buy something in your price range. There are a ton of affordable options. But you should never buy a counterfeit. If you have any respect for the company you can't afford, then at least buy used.
These sorry youtubers need to stop with the click bait. Like the last guy said a clone is not illegal. Now if they say benchmade then theres a problem. These content makers with no ideas of their own. He copied this same topic from another channel. Do a review do anything originalbut stop with the false flag non sense. Some of us cant afford a real benchmade or might not want to spend thst much on a knife. Maybe we enjoy a cheap lookalike especially if its well made. Stop ruining it for people
Its a Clone not a counterfeit, so it's perfectly legal. It's only illegal if they represent themselves as Benchmade
Yeah their literal has Benchmade trademarks all over the place. I don't think they care
@@MarineX then those are 100% illegal, and yea...it's fucked up that Amazon doesn't care.
@MarineX watched it again, yea 2 of those three, the bugout and freak both are illegal because of name trademarks, even without the emblem. Those are counterfeit.
Exposed! Great video brother and good looking out for a great company!
I agree 100% they dont have the logo and they tell you wut type of steel it has I just bought both ty
The fact that a cloning company can almost make an exact copy of the more expensive knife for a fraction of the price and still make profit is crazy. I’m not again it though. Crap is too expensive today. Who am I to judge someone for wanting to get the real thing but gets a knockoff instead because it’s cheaper. Go for it.
it may look the same, but the materials certainly aren't, especially not the steel or the heat treat.
Facts, not everyone can pay what Benchmade is asking and need a cheap knife to use to work with. Honestly, no one owns the design for a knife , so unless materials and markings are exact, who cares. I buy good knives for my collection, and cheap ones for work, because they all break doing what I do, so I'd prefer to break the cheap one.
@@beentheredonethat5908 There are a lot of knife designs that are patented...
There are also plenty of good budget knives that aren't copied/stolen designs.
If you're breaking pocket knives at work... then you are using the wrong tool.
You don't want to be able to buy well made things then because that's what will happen.
@@southside1975lmaooo ok guy
Lol like I said , the 24 dollar knife works better than my real bugout stays sharper longer !! So why would I buy a 170 bugout again ????
i said this. i have purchased cheap knives to abuse and some how they end up being better than the real ones.
@caliginousmoira8565 I have a spyderco Shaman clone that ended up this way. Real one is sitting in my safe and the clone has been riding in my pocket regularly for the last 2 years. Better action with bearings instead of bushings, edge retention is great, lock up super solid. $40 for the clone vs $350 for the real shaman
I agree I have several clones and will not buy a name brand knife
your fool it it I have bunch of clones i buy them to sharpen honing my skills. They are made from shyt steel with bad heat treatment.
No way it has better edge retention.
I actually ordered a real Bugout from Amazon and was sent a fake. They corrected it but they do sometimes slip through. Gotta keep an eye out.
How were you able to tell it was fake. I got one a while ago that just seemed really poor quality but had everything the same as another one I purchased a year before that.
@@bastionwolf Didn't have the logo. Plus I already had one and compared the packaging contents and it was different as well
How did you prove that??
This was a waste Amazon isn’t “cloning them” there simply just making a knife very similar that’s like saying Chevy is copying off of ford for making a truck yes similar but they’re not putting logos trying to portray the real thing if you have a little bit of brains you know your not getting a real good quality knife for 10$ on Amazon regardless if it looks like a spider co or kershaw or Benchmade whatever could just be Somone tht needs a simple tool to cut and that’s what these are there not tryna flex especially since there not using the real logos like Ali express and stuff… and they have clones down to a t now that’s scamin not this all it is is just a pair of Nikes compared to Payless at the end of the day .. and it will cut Karen’s envelopes open
@@yourgirlkeepcolin22 I paid almost $300 for the knife as I intend to pay for a true Benchmade and was sent a fake/replica instead of what I paid for. I hear what you're saying but that isn't/wasn't the case for me.
As long as you’re not paying full price… I buy mine directly from China and enjoy until I loose them which I tend to do.
I purchased a “940” on Amazon once. When it arrived it came in a fake Benchmade box with no Benchmade sock containing the knife. Alarm bells and red lights were flashing. When I actually opened the knife the blade was marked 154CM and the Butterfly insignia was way too big. The 940 blade was originally made of 154CM but that was 20 years ago. I sent it back to Amazon immediately.
I would normally agree with you on this however, I make exception for Benchmade. American made or not, when you are asking me for $400 for a product China can make a barely or marginally inferior product for $25...you deserve to loose business to knock offs. I thoroughly enjoy the Amazon carbon fiber "Bugout knife" I just received. I will never hand over my money to insane, ridiculous and anti consumer Benchmade. Nothing justifes the prices they ask.
Totally agreed here. Benchmade opened the door for this issue when they decided to gouge the consumer by severely marking up their prices but maintain (or even decreasing) the quality given. Screw Benchmade. I love the fakes. I have several fake Claymores and like 5 fake Bugouts. Love them all!!! And all of my fakes which I have about 8 or 9, still don’t even come out to the asking price of a Claymore on the Benchmade website ($260). Clone or outright fake, I dont care. I will buy the fakes any day over the rip off real things.
My exact sentiments.
There is a $25 "iridium" knife on Amazon now, and I would never buy it, when I could get the real one for $60. But I don't mind using a $40 bugout clone, because "GFY Benchmade!!" ...$280!?!?!
Yeah I bought a bugout clone some months ago… low key a good little knife. 🤷🏿♂️
As long as they don't use the Benchmade logo it can they can sell whatever the hell they want
I'm at the point where if they are cloning humans who cares about a knife. Some people can't afford over priced knives.. Benchmade is the knife of the past anyway.
I just received a knife from Amazon called a thumb stud bugout ,,believe me it is exactly like a bench made , but it has no markings on it , yes it is d2 steel , and I like it better than my real bugout. It works great if sharp as shit Action is great centering is great $24 on Amazon. I give no shit I’m gonna buy more of these fuck bench made I’m tired of spending 180+ for knives that aren’t worth of shit anyways.
Dirtbag here... bugout clones are great for a few reasons.
Same knife, just different steels and plastics used to build it.
It's cheaper by 10 times so if you ruin it a few dollars can replace it.
Fun to sharpen and won't break the bank if you ruin it and need another.
It's entertaining to tell people you have a Benchmade then whip it out and see if they are smart enough to tell the difference and they are identical looking.
The paint used to coat the screws will wear off easier than the real deal but I just need a knife the paint isn't important and the blade has good paint
Clones are ok, counterfeits are not
I bought a cold steel Natchez Bowie off of Amazon for 40.00 thinking the seller didn't know what they had. In a cold steel box, had the correct cold steel logos on the blade but on close examination was a fake. Told cold steel about it and they said they were coming from China and was a big problem, the same for Benchmade, Kershaw, zero tolerance etc,etc.
The title is a little misleading, it's not illegal to clone a knife, it's illegal to counterfeit a knife. I bought some clones on Amazon that don't claim to be a Benchmade, they're just a clones, and I don't lose a minute of sleep over it.
THEY DONE CLONED TYRONE! 👀
In many cases clone's quality is much higher than its price. There are really good Benchmade clones out there, especially the carbon fiber and titanium versions.
That's why I only order knives from Knife dealers.
Ok, box says bugout..that's definitely on the edge of illegal (could actually be). It doesn't have the Benchmade emblem..so technically....but still they are playing on the edge...
The bigger question is, why not by a ganzo?
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Dude, if you wanna be a Benchmade fan boy, you go right ahead. If you wanna spend HUNDREDS of dollars for ONE folding pocket knife, go right ahead. I have bought a few fake Benchmade knives that say Benchmade on them, same logo, even try and replicate the box, even have the cloth the knives come in. I have no intention of telling ANYONE they're real. I don't want anyone to think I'm stupid enough to buy the real bullshit. The otf I got was junk, but for 20 bucks, who fuckin cares?? The two automatic knives I got, a mini stimulus and a Claymore tanto are nice as can be for 20 bucks! If I bought a real one, it would never leave the house and never get used. As it is, I carry the Stimulus every day and it's a decent knife. I'd much rather have Tue fake shit anyday bud. ANY DAY. The real scum bags are the people at BM who think it's okay to charge 200-500 bucks for a damn knife. They're name don't mean shit to me. That's all you're paying for. I also have read and heard LOTS of complaints from real Benchmade owners of all kinds of problems. I have several more fake Benchmades on the way. I personally don't give two shits if it "hurts business" for BM. They hurt their own business by up charging their product 1,000 percent what it costs to produce. I'm sorry, but a "bug out," a plastic folding pocket knife does NOT cost 200 bucks to make. They're full of shit, but people but it so they charge it. In a world where groceries are ridiculously expensive, these knife companies are worthless. I swear Benchmade fan boys are even worse than Glock fan boys. It's like they're actually proud to pay, stupid ass prices for their shit. Like they feel like they're better than everyone else because they paid 1,000 times what the product cost to make. Wow. How anyone could defend some rich, way overcharging corporation is beyond me. That's like paying out the ass for groceries and then being a snob about it like they're smarter for paying way more than they should. Benchmade has a PRACTICE butterfly knife, PRACTICE you can't use it for anything except to practice flipping it around. It's 350 fucking DOLLARS!!! I thoroughly enjoy my fakes and can't wait for the new ones to arrive. I just hope others do it too. Go to Wish y'all, they have the cheapest prices.
I have no problem at all with the first one.
Benchmade didn’t create that knife profile (or any of their knife profiles for that matter), and too many people are quick to scream “Benchmade clone” at almost every knife that even slightly resembles a Benchmade (which all resemble countless knives before them).
I wouldn’t necessarily have a problem with the last two if they weren’t using the Benchmade names.
That’s blatant intent to deceive and it’s wrong and it should be stopped.
The fact that the build quality and action of the fake Bugout is so close to the real thing is a bit of an indictment on Benchmade and shows how overpriced their knives really are in my opinion.
If someone can manufacture a knife that is so similar (steel notwithstanding) for a fraction of the price then it says to me that people are paying as much for a cute little butterfly logo as anything else.
That said, I won’t be buying any of these clones, or any Benchmades for that matter.
The fact that they change up those knives at all makes them legal. They aren't portraying anything Benchmade and don't have the Trademark on the knife or the box.
I just went to Great American Knife show in Vegas and there were thousands of Benchmade clones for sale, and some were as low as $10!!
I very recently lost my Benchmade Bugout, with custom G10 scales, at a hotel during a business trip. I’m buying another real Bugout to replace it, and an Amazon clone for travel…just now decided.
Honestly there isn’t much of anything proprietary about knives. Benchmades axis lock patent is up, I believe which is why more companies are using it, and you can’t patent blade shapes or handle shapes. Clones are always going to happen especially if anything is made in china. Some companies have to agree on sharing tech when having something made in china and often times things get ripped off and cloned. In this case chances are it’s legal. Less likely to be legal is if a seller says they’re selling a genuine benchmade at a benchmade price and shipping clones.
I'm glad to finally have joined the battalion. Your content is the realist for those of us into the EDC world. So thank you for that. It's nice to have the incite to help make smarter decisions when it comes to my daily loadout. So glad you #exposed the fakes brother and i look forward to hearing you run your grape as part of your company. Stay keeping it real!
Those knives are just copies of the design of the bench made. They aren’t putting the benchmade name and trying to sell it as a benchmade knife.
They have the Benchmade naming convention in the description and on the box itself.
Wow! Like finding Rolax watches sold by street vendors. Let the buyer beware!!
@@MarineXyeah but they're not branding on the knife, so the knife is not a counterfeit, the box is a counterfeit, but everyone is going to know if the knife doesn't have the branding them, it's not a counterfeit, if someone's dumb enough to buy a knife that doesn't say Benchmade on it and think that's a Benchmade well I feel sorry for them. Lol
I bought bugout clone before i bought the real one, and trust me, the clone one gets all the abuse and since the real one is so expensive, i dont even wanna use it. Its kind of like precious little piece of steel sitting in my drawer. I would rather buy, use and abuse the $25 knife and honestly they hold up pretty well. They say its 440 steel, dont know if its A or C but it works really well for my everyday tasks.
We need clones. Can you afford to go to the grocery store and only by the name brand? Do you never by the stores brand clones? No different than buying Walmart Great Value over the name brand. Makes products affordable for everyone. Plus I'm a knife user. I don't want to pay $200 for quote super steels. My grandfather taught me how to sharpen a knife.
what kind of laser engraver do you have? I have no intention to copy anything but I want to draw and write on handles
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I lost all respect for Benchmade when I seen how much they are asking for the “Narrows”, they aren’t the same company they once were, they are taking advantage of people who don’t know very much about materials, they deserve to have to compete with people making clones, they did it to themselves…💯😏
I would carry my Spyderco AMBITIOUS..... strong 2 3/8" locking blade and usually under $50.00! It's my go to TRAVEL knife!
Dude you're like an advertisement to promote buying clones knives😂
Its hard for me to tell who is the bad guy, the company selling you a knife 25x more than it's worth, or someone selling the same knife for what it's really worth. Also I was listening to someone speak saying that stats show the clones actually help the real companies once you have a clone of your product it boosts the sales like advertisment I suppose.
Go out in your garage and make a knife. Iv got all the tools to do it now. When your knife is done. Tell me how many man hours you have into it? Then tell me who's selling the knife at the real price. Do you want to be a slave for the gov and work for 20 cents an hour or do you want to work for yourself and charge a price that earns you a living?
@@MarthaTorres-gu7vd I literally don't understand how people don't get this. It's not just completely that Benchmade is screwing you but that the Chinese company is using inferior steel and basically slave labor. I get that there's a disconnect because we don't live there and don't have to deal with it but that's what you're supporting along with less decent paying manufacturing jobs here to be able to afford nice things.
Only buy from authorized knife dealers.
Kershaw makes axis lock knives now
Clones arent bad but counterfeit are. The problem is we are getting inferior knife quality such as knife steel which could be more prone to rust or doesnt hold an edge or just not as hard. Once of these knife may say S30V or S90V but what steel are we really getting?
So you may be getting inferior quality at premium price.
Juice vs squeeze. Find with a good clone. Could care less about butterfly and butterfly taxes. Cuts fine
I like buying the clones to see if I want to spend the near 300$ on the real thing. Check the feel and comfort with the cheap and then get the real. I think of it as a cheap throwaway test drive.
I bought an auto 940 not knowing I was buying a fake. I don’t know what to do with it.
The long name doesn't really mean much as it's not really just a name. It's the combination of the types of steel, VG-10, 440C or ATS-34. Hardness and/or edge retention MOHS Scale or HCR AKA: Rockwell Hardness Scale. You also have proprietary steel names like Magnacut. It becomes a pain in ur arse, when makers assume those buying their knives will know this. Though, it is true throwing them together can be a warning sign. To identify these, it's a good idea to become familiar with all the different meanings. Most think it's too much trouble but when your dropping $200 plus on a single knife you should damn well better know what your buying. Most scammers are clueless about this and the names make no sense.
i work as a mechanic, my main EDC is Victorinox Huntsman and Kershaw Funxion, but i did get myself a Benchmade bugout mini off wish, just as a blade i wont feel sorry destroying at work, and out of sheer curiousity, and its a complete replica from the feel to the logo on the blade, and im impressed with the 1 to 1 replica for 5$
i would rather get the real thing, but damn those chinese are just getting too good with making fakes that you cant tell the difference
What is the ring knife in your tray?
There should be laws to ban and illegal this kind of copy cat products！
I have had the bm 4300 in black. It is 98%the same as the real deal. Great action. All I did was switch the washers got rid of the white plastic. Open and closes muy Bueno.. It came super sharp and it was 3bmonthhs b4 I needed to sharpen it... Best 35 I ever spent.... It's not a Benchmade but it's still a great 35 dollar knife....
To each their own. 96% of all knives are produced by "Gina" anyways.
anyways, Benchmade knives are overrated and overpriced for what they are...the bugout is just flimsy plastic trash...just a brainwashing marketing product...period.
What's the knife in the black leather on the board?
It’s amazing how long you talk without saying anything.
The only real difference is the blade material. Proving that benchmade is charging way too much. No reason a real one cant be 65 bucks
I am a Benchmade owner and I agree.
I’m not worried about Benchmade losing money AT ALL! Donating to Anti-2A politicians. AND NO I WONT GET OVER IT! In fact I’m gonna go buy some of these
Just FYI, they've donated to both sides of the aisle, more to pro than anti. But I get it
@@MarineX don’t care if they’ve done both. That doesn’t take away from the fact they have donated to politicians that want to take away our rights
@@NavySooner touche.
The Right wing and Left wing are both part of the same bird, just sayin
Dude sounds like hes the ceo of bm i own the Amazon bug out Version and its far far from trash its a great knife i bought a few at 25 bucks a pop vs a wayyy over priced "look at me bm" people got more money than sence imo
Supporting the loss of American manufacturing jobs that allow us to be afford nice things and the near slave labor practices of China. Yep you got all the sense.
This seems perfect for people experimentating... Changing blade shapes, changing grinds, Rits Dye, acid etching, etc. 🤔
Copying the name and logo and charging Benchmade prices is definitely not cool tho
Exposed, shame that a quality knife is under attack by thieves, they’re getting pretty good at cloning spiderco also
I’m glad you mentioned the #Battalion
Benchmade is Woke!
not sure how clones are a bad thing or make someone a dirtbag for buying them, they prove how much people are paying for branding and gives people options. blatant counterfeits are scummy, clones is just how the market works. its not that deep
Not that big of a deal. Clones exist. And will for a long time. Amazon isn't at fault, they're just a storefront like eBay.
Exactly
Exposed! Thanks for calling Amazon out. I know this type of thing happens to many products and no one seems to care
No problem!!
And this is coming from a guy that has thousand dollar knives OK I got Chris reeves knives and a lot of other ones and these so-called fake or whatever you wanna call them they were great so why wouldn’t I buy them?
I’ve seen a carbon fiber clone of the benchmade 940 Osborn
Yup that company sells that too
Clones are not illegal
When Nike orders 5000 shoes from china… if they make 6000 and send Nike 5 and sell the rest are they fake? 🤫
You lie, it feels exatly the same when the open and close, banchmade are way to expesive for a knife that is half plastic, 280 dollar is more expensive that any leatherman.
Chill
Why do you Have them?!
To expose them
Lol I've been seeing a bunch of them on Amazon lately.
You and me both
Expose!
The AXIS lock patent expired in 2018. So are in the public domain, but the blatant attempts to deceive is bad.
The patient expired but the trademark is forever there using the name axis lock. You either have to call it a pivot lock or come up with your own name
@@MarineX A trademark isn't forever, you have to renew it.
@@RenThraysk my bad. They've renewed, since forever ago lol
Another reason not to buy from Amazon. Screw Bezos
Exposed! I love Benchmade, but their prices are unrealistic at the moment 🤷♂
Buy the clone and the real and you will feel the difference I have bought some clones ,bug out and 940 osborne but I give them away I own 25 real Benchmade knives and you will know the difference, a cheap knife to beat up vs paying 300 for the real to beat up ,well ..I'm also a knife collector so sometimes it's just morbid curiosity to see and pissing away 30 bucks on a clone vs drinking it away or worse then gifting it to someone less fortunate and spark there interest in quality stuff????
DON’T YOU KNOW? It’s ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY
Touche so right
I normally wouldn't entertain buying a clone. Especially a tool like my EDC knife. But Benchmade has gotten out of pocket with their prices. Id rather 10 clones in 440c(8cmov13 is Chinese version of 440) than 1 mid Benchmade. I have 2 real mini bugouts and a mini grip. And the normal size like alot people. A real Benchmade feels like it's cheaply made cause it is. Id b surprised if it cost Benchmade more $10 to make a model. That's after recouping development cost and paying american worker. S30v steel isn't that expensive. Id imagine it isn't even $1 in material. After a few yrs they should b cheaper. Or come with a offer the buy a exclusive knife at good price. Something. They only offer extended sharpening and service. But hold a $200 bugout and compare to another american made lite weight knife. Like the southern grind spider monkey. U can really see where Benchmade is making us pay for the name not the quality. I'm like that. I don't buy Nike cause of that. If u know anything u know your not getting a real Benchmade for $24. And if u knowledgeable about knives you will know with the action,feel and screws. But the quality is matching
It's just dropshipping shit from china/aliexpress that are like $10-$15.
I concur
Thanks for exposing these fakes. #benchmadesheep
A clone that portrays itself as an original is a fake. Why use the same box and advertisement. If you think a fake is trying to not undermine our economy then buy "cloned" $100.00 dollar bills and tell treasury it's OK.
Exposed!
One of favorite knife designers is Serge Panchenko, and Amazon has straight up shady ass clones right down to the logo of some of his knives. Clones piss me off, it’s one thing to make an obvious copy that’s not the real thing (still shady, but the world sucks) but putting an actual makers mark on a fake makes me want to burn factories down.
Wow! This is like street vendors selling Rolax watches. Buyer beware!
Wasn't it Rolex that had the marketing campaign that said "Fake watches are for fake peope." If you don't have money for a Rolex or Benchmade that's fine, then buy something in your price range. There are a ton of affordable options. But you should never buy a counterfeit. If you have any respect for the company you can't afford, then at least buy used.
Links please...😂
These sorry youtubers need to stop with the click bait. Like the last guy said a clone is not illegal. Now if they say benchmade then theres a problem. These content makers with no ideas of their own. He copied this same topic from another channel. Do a review do anything originalbut stop with the false flag non sense. Some of us cant afford a real benchmade or might not want to spend thst much on a knife. Maybe we enjoy a cheap lookalike especially if its well made. Stop ruining it for people
Bruh I saw this shopping around for knives yesterday, that first tactiman!! Bruh!!! Scary AF.
EXPOSED em this is wild X
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EXPOSED!!!!! X the fake merch sniper! Those companies can pound sand. Thank you X!
Amazon is exposed!
Exposed. Why don't you empower you viewers to report by linking the report link on Amazon?
Because technically I don’t know if I would be violating TH-cam TOS with those specific links
Because nothing is exposed these are clones not counterfeits LOL
I dont purchase knives on Amazon for this EXACT reason.
Simple rule: don’t by knives on Amazon.
NEVER order from Amazon!!!
Does the axis lock on the actual Benchmade assist the knife in opening in any way or does it only lock the blade in position?
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