Czech Vz58 to 500yds: Practical Accuracy

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    The Czech/Czechoslovakian Vz.58 was a legendary rifle, serving Czechoslovakia, (later the Czech Rep., Slovakia) for more than 60 years. Known for it's accuracy, reliability and how it differers in every way from the Kalashnikov, outside of the appearance; the Vz. 58 has been a loyal friend to the Czech soldier.
    Many Czech service members were hesitant on turning their Vz.58 in for a good reason.The rifle is light-weight, accurate and one of the most dependable systems available.
    We shoot a beautiful example on loan from Small Arms Solutions, which was made by Czech Small Arms and sold by Czechpoint USA. Henry liked it so much that he ended up procuring one for his personal collection after testing it!
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  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews  4 ปีที่แล้ว +673

    FYI, I obtained one of these Czech Vz58's right after filming this... so you know how I feel about them. -Henry

    • @WardenWolf
      @WardenWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They're good guns for what they are, but because they're fully proprietary and there's no good way to mount optics on them, they're impractical when compared to a modern AK. As a standalone, they're great. But the complete lack of an ecosystem is what kills it. The VZ58 was definitely better than the AK's of its era, but the AK has evolved dramatically and if you take full advantage of its quick-change optics you can get a much more attractive package overall.

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@WardenWolf Pretty much every gun is proprietary. You can mount optics just like the AK. Side rail, handguard, and top mounted rail. The problem is there isn't as much after market support for it.

    • @terryfaugno9242
      @terryfaugno9242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I know. I have a CSA in 5.56X45, and a D-Technik (CSA's original business name) in 7.62X39 with the beaver barf furniture. Nice accuracy, but definitely need to wear gloves when manipulating the controls, tons of 90 degree edges that nick you constantly when reloading or manipulating the safety under stress.

    • @luckybsd
      @luckybsd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Great, thx for this episode. As being Czech I own one as well but first production run in real wood ;) Let me know if you want an advice on some tuning parts, here almost every small arms manufacturer have some tuning parts on list.

    • @Cream5oda09
      @Cream5oda09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Im an AK guy myself but even I would admit a true Czech made VZ58 is a more refined/smoother firing weapon. I would imagine less felt recoil than an AK which should translate better accuracy. I feel like these would make for a better hog slaying rifle than a cheap AK.

  • @PolenarTactical
    @PolenarTactical 4 ปีที่แล้ว +676

    From our testing the Vz58 rifles are inherently more accurate than Russian, Yugo and Chinese AKs in the same caliber.
    I don't know for sure but i suspect that it might be the difference of short and long stroke piston design.
    Also the czech block bolt locking seems to be more consistent and may provide longer dwell time

    • @StrangerOman
      @StrangerOman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Was expecting to see your comment on Vz ;)

    • @gino3286
      @gino3286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      maybe the barrel execution ? barrel is very important ... i am asking this because i have seen this ...
      2poqx8tjzgi65olp24je4x4n-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Best-Rifle-Barrel.png
      the professional shooters always go for the best ... and you see that the best is always much more popular than the others

    • @MultiMrNoone
      @MultiMrNoone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How has reliability been on these?

    • @PolenarTactical
      @PolenarTactical 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@MultiMrNoone It's quite good actually, despite the open top design.
      Civilian rifles have some minor problems with the trigger because of the conversion to semi-auto only, but that can be solved quite easily

    • @Adamz678
      @Adamz678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also the receiver rigidity.

  • @AkOperatorsUnion
    @AkOperatorsUnion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    Very cool! Great shooting and spotting. CSA VZ58 is one of my favorite rifles to shoot for sure!

    • @gunluv5936
      @gunluv5936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My pride and joy are my CZ 858-4Vs. These are Czech made imports with the military 15” chrome lined barrels.
      I’ve owned a few CSA variants, and must say that the CZs are 100% reliable.

    • @bigsyrup8567
      @bigsyrup8567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gunluv5936 The 858 is the best commercial variant for sure. Especially because of how easy it is to knock out the sear slot weld and drop a fun pack in. :^)

  • @atadbitnefarious1387
    @atadbitnefarious1387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    "This [trigger] actually has a wall it goes up to, and then it...." *gunshot noise in background*
    That was perfect.

  • @georgegordonmeade5663
    @georgegordonmeade5663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    2003, Got to shoot one of these went my unit went to train with the Czech Army. None of us spoke Czech, and only a few Czechs spoke English, but there were enough of both of us speaking German to make it work. Really cool.

    • @jiribajus9346
      @jiribajus9346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tak snad tě naučili alespon nějaké sprosté slova :D

  • @bubba192
    @bubba192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I tried to duplicate what you do in your videos, after 50 rounds my daughter who was my spotter said,dad we are out of ammo, I asked why? She said because you suck. Great shooting buddy.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    Czechnology

  • @continentalmilitaria
    @continentalmilitaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    In the Czech Republic this rifle is like the AR 15 in the US. Just about everybody that has weapons has one. I have one dated 1960 with wood furniture.

    • @Swthh9181
      @Swthh9181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we use it in cyprus in military police, ive got one and its a very comfortable gun to shoot with

  • @dragod7233
    @dragod7233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    czechoslovakia made best weapons and cars of all eastern block

    • @sovietchadster907
      @sovietchadster907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      drago d ah yes a fellow Czechoslovakian soudruh

    • @adamc6371
      @adamc6371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you forgetting that east germany exists or something? DDR AK's and SKS's hold some of the tightest tolerances and best fit and finishes of any com-bloc weapons.

    • @sovietchadster907
      @sovietchadster907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Adam C still an AK and SKS, not much difference in terms of functionality. East German cars may have been reliable but terrible in terms of performance and overall build. You have to remember that East Germany was basically crippled after the war for 20 years so it's understandable that much funding didn't go into research

    • @student8136
      @student8136 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamc6371 MPi-K's are the same in quality as soviet AK's if we talk about guns just off the production or storage, but lose in the long-distance service, due to the fact they shorted expenses on doing internals without corrosion protection on bolts and barrels. Also, plastic externals of MPi-KM are known to be fragile.

    • @cheguevara-sirius1989
      @cheguevara-sirius1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 😂 😂 One of the best, come on!
      👍🏻

  • @DexMaster881
    @DexMaster881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    In this episode Henry-chan pronounces Aluminium correctly ,but quickly Says Aluminum to not lose his Murrica card :)

    • @Asghaad
      @Asghaad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Saturn except Aluminium is world wide recognized proper chemical designation of the metal.

    • @Asghaad
      @Asghaad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Saturn right and that is explanation for butchering of the word in language that does how exactly ? ...
      secondly in those countries despite not having the alphabet and having theyr own word for it anyway, the scientific term for it is still ALUMINIUM, just like the proper term for gold is Aurum or lead Plumbum because they are latin based. If you are lazy enough to use the chemical term for the metal anyway, at least dont be a lazy git and dont shorten it up for no reason.

    • @wgairborne209
      @wgairborne209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok but who cares

    • @future_phonk
      @future_phonk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Apparently, aluminum came first but the British adopted Aluminium because they thought it had a more classical sound.
      Sir Humphry Davy originally used Alumium but then later changed his mind to Aluminum.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The CZ factory puts out fantastic firearms. The Vz-58 is no exception to that rule. When people first look at the Vz-58 they think, ah another AK. But in fact other than the cartridge the 58 does not share a single part with the Kalashnikov, not even the magazine. The Czech's truly did it their way.

    • @docar1523
      @docar1523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not true! Slings are completely interchangeable :-).

    • @ditzydoo4378
      @ditzydoo4378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@docar1523 said tongue in cheek. >~

    • @mishasaratovtsev7370
      @mishasaratovtsev7370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ditzydoo4378 Nerozumim , hehe.

    • @ditzydoo4378
      @ditzydoo4378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mishasaratovtsev7370 oh you.. ^~^
      I don't know what happened. >~

  • @LastCaress7
    @LastCaress7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    SKS next. I mean, you kinda have to now.

    • @Robert53area
      @Robert53area 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed, Yugoslavian SKS would be nice to see. I could loan him mine except most of mine isnt original

    • @Mavd-mk9iq
      @Mavd-mk9iq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Robert53area soviet sks,the original.

    • @thebeyondwordser
      @thebeyondwordser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Mavd-mk9iq or Chinese... would like to know how far i can push my norinco.

    • @Stormcloakvictory
      @Stormcloakvictory 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thebeyondwordser think they allready did that one tbh

    • @thebeyondwordser
      @thebeyondwordser 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stormcloakvictory Not that i can find! may have been the SVD or mosin you're thinking of, or it may be private fro some reason.

  • @jeramyw
    @jeramyw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Finally. I love this rifle. Rob Ski says it's the most accurate 7.62x39 he's ever fired, (edit) except the PTR32 is neck and neck with it. But the PTR was heavier with a heavier barrel.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      He would be very very correct.

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@9HoleReviews Could you try it with the brake?

    • @hakimcameldriver
      @hakimcameldriver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That was until he shot a PTR32. But the PTR outweighed the VZ by 3lb.

    • @danendraarkananta9442
      @danendraarkananta9442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The most accurate 7.62x39 he shot is PTR32 rifle

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danendraarkananta9442 It's bigger, heavier, and bull barreled. Plus it's not aesthetically pleasing to me.

  • @vagusprofugo1444
    @vagusprofugo1444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hello from Czech Republic. I just want to add, that this rifle, even with this pros like wheight etc. can still shoot under simillar conditions like AK 47. (mud, water and so on)

  • @tang234
    @tang234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Ah the classic beaver barf wood furniture. A favourite in the canuckistani republics

    • @cbwelch4
      @cbwelch4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rw T LMAO. Like the crappy pre “polymer” plastic mags... Baklight... Barf!

    • @aceace5867
      @aceace5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that's all it takes to make you laugh your ass off? fucking jagoff

    • @tang234
      @tang234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aceace5867 settle down eh

    • @Jesses001
      @Jesses001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Beaver barf, ha. I like it. I think I will use that term.

    • @brandonlee773
      @brandonlee773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @One K well, it was until the fucken RCs reclassified it as prohib cause "it could be converted to full auto" ... if you swapped literally all the internals

  • @BV-fr8bf
    @BV-fr8bf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Destroying the myth that com-block rifles are inaccurate (with Russian ammo no less.)

    • @lrlapua8035
      @lrlapua8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how many rounds did they shoot before filming ?

    • @NegruRW
      @NegruRW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lrlapua8035 Few if any..judging by the guns in the backround

    • @lrlapua8035
      @lrlapua8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NegruRW does not prove anything....

    • @tuck234
      @tuck234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lrlapua8035 From most of the methodology of the previous PA Long Range (and also the name of the channel of 9 Hole being a good hint too), they most likely function test and usually check zero. That's all I can hypothesize. Exact round count before filming is sort of irrelevant since it's most like just them grabbing the rifles and going from there seeing what the rifles can do then and there in ever changing environments (some days are clear and sunny and some days are just windy as hell and sort of cloudy), which seems to be the goal from what I can tell from past PA courses... They explain this in previous Q&A videos and channel updates...
      here are some of them here:
      Big news for 2019 th-cam.com/video/g-Uq3G-kR5c/w-d-xo.html
      Who are Henry and Josh? 100K Sub Special th-cam.com/video/AZ36qm5hvEs/w-d-xo.html
      Winter 2019 th-cam.com/video/PDSEXmOFp8Y/w-d-xo.html

    • @lrlapua8035
      @lrlapua8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tuck234 never said I did not believe the video, but I also know a LOT of YT shooting videos are the end result of a lot of practice off the camera......then make the actual video with that knowledge, I have a Izhmash Siaga 7.62 that shoots very well, never tried it past 100, Not really any need for me, if I ever had to use it to shoot past 100, I have other rifles that fill the role much better. I also have a Ruger Ranch in 7.62x39 it is much better past 100...

  • @rdb8509
    @rdb8509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I own 2 CAI V2000’s. I bought them back when they sold for $400. If I had known at the time that they had a bad rep I would not have bought the first one. I was so impressed by the quality and accuracy I bought a second. The second one was as good as the first. I mounted a Czech Arms side rail on one for an optic. Yes you have to drill and tap the receiver. Even the CAI rifles have doubled in price now as of 6/2020.

    • @winkleried
      @winkleried 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep and DItto. My second one was due to the spouse wouldn't"t leave mine alone.

  • @maewinchester2030
    @maewinchester2030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice shooting, we snagged a VZ-2008 a while back and was very pleased with the feel of it.

  • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
    @MaxwellAerialPhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    we really loved these things up in Canada up until 5 weeks ago.

  • @WombatAnnihilator
    @WombatAnnihilator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I absolutely love my VZ58. One of my favorite guns!

  • @filipgall2645
    @filipgall2645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "It feels like shooting an SKS more than an AK"
    Thi might also be becouse the gas system is very similar.
    Also the slovak army still uses the wooden furniture/folding metal stock version of this gun

    • @saiien2
      @saiien2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because it's not an "AK". It's completely different weapon. It was not based on AK like other weapons in eastern block. Czechs went their own way.

    • @iplaygames8090
      @iplaygames8090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@saiien2 sadle we hadnt gone the entire way. Big F in the chat for the tank industry and T-50

  • @Yorihime
    @Yorihime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bought one used CZ858 for dirt cheap last year in a very good condition. Still haven't found time to try it but this video definitely gave me some motivation to bring it to the range as soon as I can (rifle ranges are hard to find in European cities). I always wanted one vz58. They are extremely interesting mechanically and historically speaking.

  • @jwc00789
    @jwc00789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the Record, I've gotten excellent service from my Century Build Vz2008. Not all of them were crap.
    I did go the extra mile on it and had the Bolt Carrier tabbed.

    • @winkleried
      @winkleried 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are a whole bunch of us VZ-2008 shooters that agree with you !

  • @Ghidorah00
    @Ghidorah00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own a czechpoint made 58, and I have much respect for it. Extremely shootable, and the trigger analysis here is on point.
    Czech firearms, in my mind are all extremely impressive. I love the cz75 derivatives, and man the Bren 2 is a nice platform in .223.

  • @dangerousfreedom4965
    @dangerousfreedom4965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Best 7.62x39 IMO
    Especially when you’re carrying it all day

  • @DashSVK
    @DashSVK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Of all the features I like the last round bolt hold open feature on the 58 the most.

  • @iconofsin09
    @iconofsin09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    They’re aluminium... I mean aluminum... you said it right the first time ;)

  • @alaskajohn907
    @alaskajohn907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    When you like to AK but you also like to be different :)

    • @Yeoman7
      @Yeoman7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      alaskajohn907 Very different...

    • @BelialsGenuflect
      @BelialsGenuflect 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly why it's my favorite rifle of all time. No rifle in my collection gets shot more. I bring it out every time I go shooting.

    • @ChuckBeefOG
      @ChuckBeefOG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In Canada, this is pretty much our only option these days for an “AK” like rifle. Most AK variants are prohibited. A few Valmut rifles are allowed but you’re going to pay $6k+. The new M+M Industries M10x is allowed too.

    • @filipzalud9825
      @filipzalud9825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its not AK clone

    • @alaskajohn907
      @alaskajohn907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@filipzalud9825 no kidding, that's the point

  • @tacticplanner7188
    @tacticplanner7188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this rifle I remember seeing it as a kid and saying, "I've got to have that" as drool ran down my chin it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen and I had to have it the only way to express my absolute love for this metal piece of perfection is WOW.

  • @stevejohnson6248
    @stevejohnson6248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had one of the Century VZ's and it worked fine. Ended up selling it though, kind of want another one now lol.

    • @totherepublic358
      @totherepublic358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would buy a few more if they were still 400 bucks and came with 5 mags each, bayonets, cleaning kits, slings and leather mag pouches! Man, that was like a seriously awesome deal! I found one a few days ago that came with one mag and a "thanks for shopping with us sticker" for $700. I figured if I had to spring for 700 I might as well hold out for a 1k genuine-ish one instead. But some of those century ones were quite good, the one I had was perfect.

    • @murphy7801
      @murphy7801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@totherepublic358 From what Ian and Henry said, do century just wreck european guns? fyi I live in france

    • @bulletsforteeth5029
      @bulletsforteeth5029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah... My Vz.2008 WAS SUCH A RIP OFF! I got mine when they came out at the low, low introductory price of $399.00. It came with a Made in USA milled receiver, USA made chrome lined barrel, 16.25" w/ 1:9.5 twist, the rest of the parts are a mix of USA and Czech made parts. I mean, what was I thinking? I could have shelled out four times for what I paid for my Vz.2008 and got an authentic Czech Vz.58 instead! By now you should get a sense of my sarcasm, and get a feel that paying more for an overpriced import is just fucking stupid. Find me another AK/Vz Variant that can match the specs of a Vz. 2008 for $399.00 and I'll kiss your ass! The moral kids, is that if your going to pay over a thousand dollars in cold hard cash for an AK or Vz variant it better do more than just semi-automatic fire, or you just fucked yourself. I am not impressed with Czech Vz.58 owners anymore than I am with AK owners who payed over a thousand dollars for a semi-automatic sporter. Bitches, please.
      Don't buy into the hype, there is nothing wrong with the Vz.2008, the only people I hear who have a problem or 'hear rumors' about it being a POS, are fucking salesmen trying to get one over on you.

  • @sauravrollins6779
    @sauravrollins6779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Finally, the most lovely thing in the world

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It needs to be tacticalized.

    • @sauravrollins6779
      @sauravrollins6779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jeramyw there are many custom variants tho

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sauravrollins6779 The "tactical" model from Czech Point is nice. But will they ever put a Magpul AK moe handguard on it, for sale? Also, I was making an instructor Earl reference.

    • @sauravrollins6779
      @sauravrollins6779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeramyw wow, keep up the good work Sir

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dan Gurău Rifle is fine. Furniture and muzzle device need upgrade.

  • @GunPartsbyTeddy1911
    @GunPartsbyTeddy1911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own one that I customized.
    Ordered a collapsible stock & forehand with collapsible grip & added a muzzle breaker.
    I installed an Aim Point Pro.

  • @samy7013
    @samy7013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The AKM (including its AK-103 variant) and the vz.58 are my two favorite assault rifles. One thing I like about the vz.58 is the ability to keep the magazine in place, and replenish it from the top of the receiver with SKS 10-round stripper clips, since there are stripper clip guides built into the front of the bolt face.

  • @mongoose4117
    @mongoose4117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've allways had a big old crush on this weapon!

  • @ladislavhanzel2559
    @ladislavhanzel2559 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had The V model issued in the Slovak army back in 2003 as a radio operator. I had to do my 9 months back than. My rifle was an amazing machine, it only had broken stock, so when I unfolded it, it would not lock. When I reported the fault, my leader did not care bout it. Than we went to range, we got 3 bullets single shot to hit the target to 50 meters, you had to score minimum 2 bulls eyes of three. You have to aim little lover as kicks up and right. Bear in mind I have never shot rifle so powerful before. Than 9 bullets at full auto to hit two of three figures at 200 meters. Scoring that together would grant you weekend off. There were 300 man competing for a weekend off, and it was only granted to top 3 scores. I was 23 back than and only shoot airguns as a kid. To pass this was weekend of guaranteed to see your family and girlfriend. I dont know how, but I missed my last target. I knew that I failed, my head down in dissapointment. But when I looked up my target was down. Luckily My friend lying next to me fired at the same time and hit mine target , so I was granted the weekend of. The rifle is amazing, it had all I needed as radio operator. Simple and reliable. Its a piece of great engenearing.
    Issued in the arm

  • @kevinbutler6165
    @kevinbutler6165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've missed you fellas. Welcome back.

  • @gino3286
    @gino3286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    all this precision at 500 without a scope ? unbelievable ... congratulations !

  • @brok1999
    @brok1999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Kolik nás tu je Čechů ? 🇨🇿
    How many Czechs are here ? I would like to know that 😅

    • @akashmukherjee2405
      @akashmukherjee2405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Nejsem Čech, ale jazyk znám. Mimochodem, jsem z Indie. 😁

    • @tomasfrance6609
      @tomasfrance6609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jeden Pražák :)

    • @martincoufalik9101
      @martincoufalik9101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@akashmukherjee2405 Jazyk znáš z překladače nebo opravdu umíš mluvit a psát česky? :o

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Jeden Slovak. Just one Slovak man. You know, CzechoSLOVAKIA :)
      I have already sold my 58 and currently running just .223. In IPSC matches I can count 58s on one hand, basically everybody is on AR-15 now, even in Slovakia and Czech republic…

    • @albundy2696
      @albundy2696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jo, ale já měl vzor 26, pumpička, letiště Přerov..

  • @ivyssauro123
    @ivyssauro123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The beginning of these videos, where the camera looks down the gun's iron sights is some great reference material for FPSs, thanks a lot!

  • @christopherlambert7814
    @christopherlambert7814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man hes a hell of a shot..people.that say 7.62x39 isnt worth a damn out past 300 yards need to watch this guy work

  • @thomasmcfaul875
    @thomasmcfaul875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Canada and have a CSA vz.58, never had any problems with it and it is worth the price tag. defiantly better with an optic though like any rifle

  • @isaace8090
    @isaace8090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Century gun has been great, and the price was $399 with 5 mags, mag pouch, and cleaning kit. A great deal at the time. I also bought a kit and built it myself and it turned out pretty good. I've held one of the Czech guns and they were quite a bit nicer than my two rifles.

    • @bulletsforteeth5029
      @bulletsforteeth5029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah... My Vz.2008 WAS SUCH A RIP OFF! I got mine when they came out at the low, low introductory price of $399.00. It came with a Made in USA milled receiver, USA made chrome lined barrel, 16.25" w/ 1:9.5 twist, the rest of the parts are a mix of USA and Czech made parts. I mean, what was I thinking? I could have shelled out four times for what I paid for my Vz.2008 and got an authentic Czech Vz.58 instead! By now you should get a sense of my sarcasm, and get a feel that paying more for an overpriced import is just fucking stupid. Find me another AK/Vz Variant that can match the specs of a Vz. 2008 for $399.00 and I'll kiss your ass! The moral kids, is that if your going to pay over a thousand dollars in cold hard cash for an AK or Vz variant it better do more than just semi-automatic fire, or you just fucked yourself. I am not impressed with Czech Vz.58 owners anymore than I am with AK owners who payed over a thousand dollars for a semi-automatic sporter. Bitches, please.
      Don't buy into the hype, there is nothing wrong with the Vz.2008, the only people I hear who have a problem or 'hear rumors' about it being a POS, are fucking salesmen trying to get one over on you.

  • @tafino
    @tafino 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best description of SKS, VZ58, and AK recoil. In fact, best recoil description ever.

  • @marijusp
    @marijusp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm impessed with accuracy of this rifle. And it's 1.5 pounds lighter than AK. Well done CZ :)

  • @xenomorphelv4265
    @xenomorphelv4265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bought mine for 295 euros 8 years ago. super reliable, accuracy is pretty fine at 250m stand/crouch. 350m in prone position (didn't test further), more than enough for SHTF situation. remember to get a good piles of magazines.

  • @bdockett
    @bdockett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own a VZ2008 and now I'm butt hurt. The rifle has actually been fine for me, no trouble at all and it too is also more accurate than my AK's

  • @nicomeier8098
    @nicomeier8098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had one and I liked it a lot. I changed the buttstock, grip, put a compensator on it and a top front rail with a dot sight.
    Only reason I soled it is because my shooting club went bust and I had to move to another one that did'n support this kind of rifle/ammo.
    Good trigger, light, easy to handle, lots of aftermarket parts, good accuracy.

  • @austinbowman5908
    @austinbowman5908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey I wouldn't call my 2008 terrible! It actually runs very well. Now if I had to choose I'd definitely take a 58 over it but that comes at a price of course!

    • @bulletsforteeth5029
      @bulletsforteeth5029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah... My Vz.2008 WAS SUCH A RIP OFF! I got mine when they came out at the low, low introductory price of $399.00. It came with a Made in USA milled receiver, USA made chrome lined barrel, 16.25" w/ 1:9.5 twist, the rest of the parts are a mix of USA and Czech made parts. I mean, what was I thinking? I could have shelled out four times for what I paid for my Vz.2008 and got an authentic Czech Vz.58 instead! By now you should get a sense of my sarcasm, and get a feel that paying more for an overpriced import is just fucking stupid. Find me another AK/Vz Variant that can match the specs of a Vz. 2008 for $399.00 and I'll kiss your ass! The moral kids, is that if your going to pay over a thousand dollars in cold hard cash for an AK or Vz variant it better do more than just semi-automatic fire, or you just fucked yourself. I am not impressed with Czech Vz.58 owners anymore than I am with AK owners who payed over a thousand dollars for a semi-automatic sporter. Bitches, please.
      Don't buy into the hype, there is nothing wrong with the Vz.2008, the only people I hear who have a problem or 'hear rumors' about it being a POS, are fucking salesmen trying to get one over on you.

    • @mickbowling4412
      @mickbowling4412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@bulletsforteeth5029 I agree. My vz 2008 has been flawless and besides the barrel and receiver they are the same rifle.

    • @bulletsforteeth5029
      @bulletsforteeth5029 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mickbowling4412 I got thousands of rounds through mine and it's never failed me once. Still shoots like a dream. While my frens are sitting on the bench tooling around with their AR's I'm on the line sending rounds down range. 😁

  • @misterbaker9728
    @misterbaker9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My father has had one for 5 years. Amazing shooter. It’s one of my favorites too shoot

  • @monsieurdon8042
    @monsieurdon8042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the iron sight testings , keep up the great work guys

  • @sharrell64sh
    @sharrell64sh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The knowledge of you two is impressive. Your shooting skills are insane! Nicely done.

  • @charlesmarais4582
    @charlesmarais4582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to smile at Henry's first pronunciation when he described the mag as "aluminium", he first used the "Queen's English".
    In South Africa we will use Henry's first "aluminium".
    English is not my first language and it is always interesting to hear how firearm terms may differ between the Americans and Brits.
    By the way, a few years ago some of these Czech rifles were imported into South Africa, they sold out very fast.
    Interestingly the Chinese Norinco AK 47 copy sells here for half the price of a South African assembled AR 15 clone.
    From time to time Norinco copies of the AR 15 also come into our country, these seem to last very well.

  • @michaelip1569
    @michaelip1569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the firing sound of this gun. So crispy

  • @chickenmon
    @chickenmon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see the thumbnail, I click the link, I hear the music, . . . the excitement is real.
    A week ago I saw one of these for sale at my local gun shop for $700 with 4 magazines and an alternate folding stock. Why did I not buy it?!

    • @stephenjameson4911
      @stephenjameson4911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were a times, when you can buy it for $65 (1500CZK), but only theoretically, because it was fully-automatic version and you needed special permision to own full-auto, which obviously had not been granted. Most people has semi-automatic, which is for standard permision, which is granted always. Price was about $165 (4000CZK). I't was 15 years ago. Now the prices are 2 - 2,5 higher.

  • @matthewsallee8838
    @matthewsallee8838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Would love to see a CZ Bren 805 or Bren 2

    • @GirthBrooks1050
      @GirthBrooks1050 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthew Sallee 805 would be cool to see

    • @tuck234
      @tuck234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hehe... last q&a I believe they had a little 805 on the table... Tho I could be wrong lol

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No miracle, let me tell you. Not for that amount of money. It kicks more than 58 (in 7,62) and well, because most people here in Slovakia and Czech rep. shoots surplus corrosive ammo anyway, it's not good idea to shoot it from Bren as it doesn't have chromed barrel.
      I couldn't like it. AR-15 all the way.

    • @sgtpepperCZE
      @sgtpepperCZE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you really do not want to see Bren 805 - it is a crap (lot of problems)
      but Bren 2 is another story - it is tuned up, problems fixed and yes, that is nice gun!

  • @petermajerciak2270
    @petermajerciak2270 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got this gun myself (1969 made, rebranded by Kolarms, Slovakia). First time I dismantled the gun I was like "where are the parts?" Then I realised this gun is so simple! Years after I just love it. My front sight is a bit different, it is more like U shaped, not full ring over the front sight. Thank you so much for the review. Oh and btw, I use stripper clips sometimes too, but it requires a little practice to make it quick.

    • @vincentmaurer393
      @vincentmaurer393 ปีที่แล้ว

      full ring front sight came somewhere after 1970, before they were U shaped..

  • @igorbukovy4313
    @igorbukovy4313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was lucky to shoot from this gun during basic military service in Slovakia.

  • @twenno7143
    @twenno7143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    0:13 look at that ass-i mean gun

  • @coupesix
    @coupesix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased this same rifle from czechpoint. Love the beaver barf furniture it’s classic. I love the rifle and enjoyed the review. Thank you

  • @beavism305
    @beavism305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are remarkably lightweight for a fully milled gun. Excellent build quality for a combloc gun. I feel the internals aren't quite as robust as a Kalashnikov however. I have personally seen a broken CSA gun, but note, this was a commercial Czech rifle, not a military rifle.

  • @240pixel
    @240pixel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Reminds me of that last scene in Full Metal Jacket where that VC sniper had one.

    • @erich.2550
      @erich.2550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of dummies SWEAR she was using an AK. 😖😄

    • @erich.2550
      @erich.2550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wildrose2748 sssssshhhhhhoooot ME ! Ssssshhhhooooot ME ! 🤣🤣

    • @erich.2550
      @erich.2550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wildrose2748 Haaaaa....Right ! 🤣🤣 The honorable words of Sal Lopez. 👊🏽🤣

    • @grimgor4518
      @grimgor4518 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look to Platoon movie , vilage bunker whit weapons scene .."we got here 4 czechoslovakia maschingunes..." Czechoslovakia in that time was part of comie block so we seend some help to vietnam.:D UK vz.59 but that was "poor" maschinegun -that mg from" platoon" was wery soon dirty and jam , when perfectly clean work fine .:) . Vz 58 was superior to ak 47 for shure .:)

  • @SlideBite87
    @SlideBite87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Great shooting. Being compact and quick handling as they are, it would be great to see Josh do a short range review with it as well.

  • @FilipPhillips
    @FilipPhillips 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi hello, Im czech and Im really appriciete how accurate and nice you guys speak about our so called "kosa" its slang and it means a scythe. This is our nation like rifle and people really like it. Unfortunatelly its being sold out definitivelly for our market, so if you like it and have a chance to buy some - do it now. There will be no more of these, unless someone will start to produce new ones. Have a good one!

    • @winkleried
      @winkleried 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Flivver What he is saying is there is no more surplus parts coming in. There were less than a million military VZ-58 rifles made during it's service life. CSA makes a Civilian single stack sporter model that is 922(r)ed and milled out to accept the military magazines. This is the main reason of the small lots that are imported into the United States.

  • @joeshmuckatelli4447
    @joeshmuckatelli4447 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a Century VZ2000 years ago with 5 mags, bayonet, mag pouch and tools/accessories for $399 new!! You said they’re terrible? Mine is perfect. I’ve shot it for years. It’s built straight and never malfunctions. I must have got a good one if others were terrible. Lucky me.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I shouldn't have said that. Turns out a lot were fine.

  • @williamnicholson8133
    @williamnicholson8133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time is see the intro and henry walk up the stairs i expect him to say "War never changes".

  • @blackvo1d
    @blackvo1d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most prolific 7.62x39 semi in Canada. You also can gucci it up with magpul zhukov folder, add piston cover picrail, put the aimpoint on it and take it places.

  • @Phantom_Aspekt
    @Phantom_Aspekt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:58 gah, you had it right the first time 😂

  • @kentr2424
    @kentr2424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got a CZ 858 (Canadian version) that has a 19" barrel, I wish I could get Henry to try it. His eyes are much better than mine, and that extra 3" barrel length (and sight radius) might make a difference.

  • @dragonstormdipro1013
    @dragonstormdipro1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I finally get why a lot of PARA SF guys I have met actually prefer this over an AK, this thing is ridiculously accurate.

  • @celezi
    @celezi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making my week better by making videos like this.

  • @muhammeddouglas9116
    @muhammeddouglas9116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought one today, I’m enjoying it

  • @ikeman1973
    @ikeman1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many of the CzechPoint rifles you can find today for sale are touting a Lothar Walther (absolutely AMAZING) barrels. With that brand of barrels, I expect this accuracy (or better). It’s a solid, reliable and accurate rifle.

  • @janvodros8238
    @janvodros8238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Henry, perfect shooting ! My gongrats. I love Sa vz. 58. Really reliable and accurate gun.

  • @spencerboone604
    @spencerboone604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I shoot the VZ 58 for Kalashnicon, it never fails to disappoint. It is everything you want out of an AK, in a better package. Optics? Its got a side rail, you can throw a 3x prism on it and get it done just fine. My favorite rifle and most trusted, pays to keep spare parts on hand just in case.
    I can only imagine what the VZ 58 couldve evolved into if it had the same popularity backing innovation like with AK and AR. I'd do questionable things for a 308 and 6.5 grendal VZ 58 😁

    • @winkleried
      @winkleried 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have a sweet set up too !

  • @maw9406
    @maw9406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Vz. 58 is the first ever firearm I encountered, at age around 10. Still have the blank casings to this day. :)

  • @CzechoslovakGunStories
    @CzechoslovakGunStories 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In czech we call them Kosa or Pádlo... Kosa stands for "scythe" and it refers to the paratrooper folding stock version which resembles a scythe... Pádlo translates to "paddle" and that is a nickname for the wooden stock version... :) can be used as a paddle I guess.. if you're marine or something... which is quite unlike in the Czech rep as we have no sea but... whatever :-P I am having the gun in the queue for a history video on my channel if anybody is interested btw. :) plenty of resources here in the Czech rep about its history so would be shame not to share it with non-czech speaking audience :)

    • @marmajsk
      @marmajsk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or "PÄŤDESIATOSMIČKA" and "OSUMAPADESÁTKA"

    • @CzechoslovakGunStories
      @CzechoslovakGunStories 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marmajsk yup, also sklopka... but "kosa" is the most popular one ;)

  • @jasonjohnson6938
    @jasonjohnson6938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't even finished watching yet but thank you in advance!

  • @stanviers8792
    @stanviers8792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cnc warrior has the period correct muzzle brake for 30$ & makes a HUGE difference.

    • @winkleried
      @winkleried 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, it does !

  • @AdamHlavacka
    @AdamHlavacka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Btw, that "Vz." means "Vzor" which can be translated as "Template" or "Model".

  • @deltabravolima1514
    @deltabravolima1514 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found yourself channel a few weeks ago and I’ve been checking out your videos. You do a really great job. Well worth a sub!! Thanks for the awesome content!!

  • @werre2
    @werre2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My brother has one of these. Absolutely awesome! The aluminium mags are lighter than anything else. It's small and handy. Now the bad points:
    optics are even more difficult to install than on AK because it ejects upwards in a random direction. Trigger is super shitty it's the rifle equivalent of glock.

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But is that the original trigger, or a crappy one made for importation? That might be a cheap thing to improve. If power customs makes a trigger for them, I would buy it. I know these aren't AKs but the power customs AK trigger is easily the best one I have seen on the market, and pretty affordable too.

    • @alexandruianu8432
      @alexandruianu8432 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Side rail + rs regulate + prismatic scope should be a great combo.

    • @petrheyduk3532
      @petrheyduk3532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That will probably be hands ...

  • @paulvenn4447
    @paulvenn4447 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks guys for making my Friday lunch break so damn awesome

  • @ratagris21
    @ratagris21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video presentation and excellent shootiny as always. Myth busting at it's best. Great work Gents!😃😃😃😊😊😊👌🍀

  • @2nd_a_dad4791
    @2nd_a_dad4791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome. Great vid, guys!

  • @betweenthebennyandme
    @betweenthebennyandme 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a CSA model and it's by far my favorite rifle I've owned or shot for that matter. I wish they had a 5.45 model aswell but we can't rewrite history

  • @sumanmikhail
    @sumanmikhail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Indian Army still swears by its VZ-58s because of their accuracy and reliability.The sad thing is that we only bought a few thousands of these amazing rifles(and instead bought over 200,000 Romanians and East German AKMs)😞

  • @SirClicks.
    @SirClicks. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This gun sounds like hitting two pots together.

  • @marcomalo02
    @marcomalo02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've owned several consumer grade AKMs over the years. I never had one that would do better than group on a pie-plate at 100 yards.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In our experience, the ammo available for AKs varies widely in quality. Bernaul ammo has been very consistent at 2.5-4MOA routinely depending on the gun.

  • @JRacer79
    @JRacer79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had one of these. Really great rifle.

  • @davidkohler7454
    @davidkohler7454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing marksmanship. Awesome firearm.

  • @timk2083
    @timk2083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Oh Christ I thought for a second at 4:14 your weapon went off

  • @89StarquestTSi
    @89StarquestTSi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Ive always noticed some right hand spin drift of about .8 moa @ 500yds with x39 ammo with an 2400fps 1:9.25 twist so roughly 4" to the left hold

  • @SuspiciousGanymede
    @SuspiciousGanymede 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Proving 7.62x39 is more accurate than most give it credit for. Please try a 7.62x39 AR platform like the KS47 or CMMG mutant!

  • @piggysleft
    @piggysleft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the low key translation of Aluminium to ( Ah loo Man Um ) for josh.

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alluminum, soccer, etc, were the original words, you just changed them to be weird.

  • @LadislavMaterna2
    @LadislavMaterna2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    SA vz.58 was my personal weapon during my two-year military service since 1969. Excellent weapon, at that time officers informed us that US troops in Vietnam had an M16 rifle, which compared to SA 58 by far not so good. It had lower caliber, range and especially in difficult conditions, water, mud, often failed. SA 58 has never failed.
    M16 good for the defeated US Army in Vietnam.

    • @winkleried
      @winkleried 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And we were told the same thing, except reversed, about Warsaw Pact Weapons.

  • @jalcanites2939
    @jalcanites2939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my favorite rifles.

  • @bektash6649
    @bektash6649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent results

  • @Largeincharge
    @Largeincharge 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel, and watched like 10 of these practical accuracy vids in a row and just came here to say if you made an "Impact/Neutralized" t-shirt, I'd be first in line. Love the channel!

  • @sleigh4019
    @sleigh4019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My VX58 was stolen years ago I'm heart broken over it ....I loved that gun just a rad little gun...

  • @Jesses001
    @Jesses001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to have one of these. I liked it a bit better then my AKs. I regret not holding onto that rifle as it is harder to get a hold of these days.