That Pedal Show - Better Solo Tones For Everyone
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In this video Daniel and Mick explore some basic concepts around getting a better solo tone.
What is a better solo tone? Obviously it’s an extremely subjective topic once you bring personal likes/dislikes into play, but the one thing on which we can all surely agree is that as a very basic start point, a good solo tone begins with ‘one that can be heard’.
By contrast a ‘bad’ solo tone is one that can’t be heard, and there are many of us who have been in that situation where you step on the next pedal to make your tone soar… only to find that it just crashes! That is where we begin.
Throughout the video we touch on the areas of gain, EQ and relative wetness of your effects in the context of being heard for that all important solo.
Interesting points of go-to bits
• What is a ‘good’ solo tone? 2:05
• Thoughts on gain and solo tones: 3:25
• Amps we’re using today: 4:57
• Midrange, gain and being heard (with Angry Charlie V3): 8:53
• How more gain can impact on the dynamics of your playing: 14:01
• Using a mid-boost (TS Mini) before and after your main overdrive: 15:38
• Angry Charlie after Carpe Diem: 19:27
• Zen Drive and mid frequencies: 23:00
• Zen Drive & Angry Charlie 25:45
• EQ pedal thoughts: 27:15
• Delay time basics and solo tones - short or long? 29:29
• Reverb basics and solo tones: 38:08
• Compression and clean tones: 40:42
Pedals used in this video:
• JHS Angry Charlie V3
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2gVXQPy
USA: bit.ly/3mqekD7
Australia: bit.ly/2hE3vP1
• Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2knaVDw
USA: bit.ly/3dyPnAr
Australia: bit.ly/3HZSfUa
• Keeley 30ms Automatic Double Tracker
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2c9PbGw
USA: bit.ly/3EW1AKU
Australia: bit.ly/2rESYZp
• MXR M300 Reverb
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2hLvESX
USA: bit.ly/3yo9D1c
• Ibanez Tube Screamer Mini
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2dRVXa2
USA: imp.i114863.net/NLPVv
• Hermida Audio Zendrive by Lovepedal
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2duiTGg
Australia: bit.ly/2YJhh4I
• Fire Custom Shop Carpe Diem
• Origin Effects Cali76 Compact Deluxe
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2uVGMBL
USA: bit.ly/323rheM
Australia: bit.ly/2ZA9MfE
• Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man 1100-TT
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2WbQLhG
Guitars used in this video:
• Collings 290DC S
• Fender Mexico special Edition Reverse Headstock ’60s Stratocaster (from 2007/8)
• Nik Huber Krautster II
Todays amps are:
• Hamstead Artist 20+RT for all the pedals
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2LRf2ae
• Victory The Sheriff 44 (for the rhythm guitar only, no pedals)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/33grgin
As always, all amp and effects routing and switching is handled by TheGigRig G2.
www.thegigrig.co.uk/g2-c2x1549...
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I had trouble being heard in my band. So, I fired my rhythm guitarist & keyboard player and now I shine like the sun. Hell Yeah!
This is the way to do it.
@@ThatPedalShow Cheers guys 🍻 & Thanks for all the hard work y'all do to make these videos. It's very appreciated. 👏
My wife ordered that pedal show t-shirt this week for me for my birthday because I watch your videos every week. I've learned so much from them. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with everyone. The best TH-cam channel by far
+Keith Williams ah, cheers Keith. Happy birthday from Mick and me :)
really I havent learnt anything from the pedal show T-shirts
Keybo Dare this show is guitar education 101, 201, 301... it’s the absolute best.
Rt there with ya Keith , these guys are like hittin the jakpot .Happy birthday !
davegetsspam
You tried to be funny and
failed miserably. Before he
said he had learned a lot
from them, he referred to
the videos, so your, “joke”
is not only not funny but
completely out of place
and irrelevant.
I do have one very big problem with you show though...the effect it has on my wallet. I've gone from 5 pedals to 10 pedals and a roland tape echo since I've started watching. I've just fallen victim once again after re-watching your strymon deco review and ordered one. Damn you! Lol
How you gettin on with the deco?
+Iam Murphy well I'm still learning how to use it, but it's awesome so far
I agree 100%
You sir, got a Roland Tape Echo AND a Deco ?
AND you're complaining?
Please share your misery with me, I'll pay the postage.
I'm totally addicted to this show. I find myself watching your episodes multiple times. Seriously, you guys rule. Amazing knowledge and playing. Y'all have inspired me to re-tool my board and upgrade some effects as well as dropped all sorts of stomp box goodness into my brain.
+The Gospel of Mark Thank you Mark! We're glad it's working for you. Makes us very happy. Cheers!
Great to see you two play together. Please more of this!
You guys need to try to get Pete Thorn on your show.He is so much like Dan in the way he understands the technical side of how pedals work .... it would be so interesting to listen to the both of them talk about pedals and how they work.
That would be great. A fan of Pete here also.
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Loved hearing you guys jamming together a bit more in this one! The pleasure you get from playing shines through, and makes it a joy to watch :)
The dream is real boys.
TC Spark is such a great pedal for kicking up solo time. Even the mini does something more than just add volume. Great video as always lads
Best effin' show on the internet! Thanks. I always learn something from you guys!
So much toneology in one episode! Amazing stuff guys! This helped me tremendously! Best channel on youtube! Cheers
+Daniel Bertola thanks Daniel :)
I am absolutely addicted to watching your videos. The best and most informative gear videos on TH-cam hands down, not to mention incredibly entertaining. Keep up the good work guys.
I work completely in the box but you guys have taught me so much, like how rhythm and lead prefer different frequencies and levels of gain. Amazing channel and highly under rated!
I have recently being playing an EP booster into the Tumnus into the Tube Screamer mini and it sounds awesome!
I have to say I really dont have many pedals anymore, I own a few ( Strymon DIG and Blue Sky ) I do own Pod Go now and a few Wah Wahs, I use alot of amp sims and plugins since i dont have alot of room but I love your show and the chemistry you guys have!
You guys have too much fun jamming together. It is completely infectious and this was one of the most enlightening and rich in learning episodes I have seen as a play at home guy. Thank-you
keep the videos coming guys! your passion for guitar really shows through this show.
Best Show on TH-cam. Ever.
yall should do a a show making the ultimate pedal board that can do good ambient stuff and good drive stuff but with as small of a budget as possible.
Thank you so much for the reply and might I add that I really enjoy your show. I get very joyful when I see a new episode. Thanks guys.
You guys are awesome. Incredibly entertaining and educational. Thank you for sharing the wisdom.
Nice show fellas all great recommendations. I was shocked about not including clean boosts or compressors as a tool for overdrive solos. I was really hoping to hear the Cali76 as a boost after the carpe diam or angry charlie. Just a suggestion I think it would sound awesome as a lead tone. I use my Barber Tone Press for this purpose after my Small Fry I have a suspicion that the 76 after the Carpe or Charlie would be fantastic. So curious.
Really hope you can do a video on micing techniques using sm57s or more regular people mics
I'd say the SM57 is a "regular people" mic. It's £85, that's not a lot of money for an industry standard microphone.
Check out Spectre Sound Studios on micing techniques. Glenn can be a bit blunt but he knows what he's talking about.
+setra23 spectre sounds is great. He's from around my town
Dan O'Moore sm58s are directional like the 57s, only difference is the pop shield, which makes it a bit more suitable for vocals.
@@KristofferG And you can take the pop shield off to make it way closer to a 57. So people say it's essentially a 57 when you take it off.
Your videos are just fantastic. Thanks to you both my tone improved dramatically!
Enjoying hearing you guys playing together more, You help tons.!! Thanks
I would love a "Better rhythm tones for everyone"
Leave it to your amp and playing style.
Andy Timmons on That Pedal Show Please :). Some great tips and tricks in here lads. Thanks heaps.
This video just saved my life. Just got a ZVEX Mastotron and been working for days to try and get my gain and levels to work with all my pedals. Watched this video today and it helped me figure it all out. Y'alls videos have helped me with my tone tremendously. Keep it up, you guys rock!!
I know this is a pretty old episode but I'm feeling the same thing as a lot of these comments. More of you guys playing together. That intro made my hair stand up.
34:19, best "Woot" in the history of TH-cam
That was a : What ?!? . But I agree.
Best solo tone tip: play rythm with the guitars volume control on 8 and solo on 10
Lars Sig i always run a Fuzz face (germanium) on with my Guitar Volume turned to bout 4-5 for my slightly crunched dynamic clean Tone and Controll my overdrive/Fuzz leval thru the Guitar volume... if i need it at certain Toneleval louder i Hit a cleanboost pedal so the Fuzz level doesnt change
Maybe that'll work on your own but that never works in a full band jam...ever!
Not enough vol to cut through drums, bass, keyboards and another guitarrist.
@@Caged63Man exactly.
I learned a lot as I often do! Thanks a bunch! I look forward to starting my weekends with a new episode!
What a great comprehensive overview of how to approach lead sounds. I have been playing for over 20 years and it was nice to be reintroduced to some of these concepts. Cheers guys!
So glad you guys started jamming, just amasing, especialy the minor one. Good job!
The grown-up with the beard is no slouch either!
GREAT episode... thanks boys!
Show idea: "Magic out of Junk"
You're always playing VERY nice stuff with VERY expensive guitars... could you do a show where you're only allowed to use equipment totaling $1000 and make it sound the best you can? It would be great also if in this show you walked us thru your process of getting it to sound great - starting from guitar knobs dimed, and amp and pedal knobs at noon.
+Tony Peterson another challenge :)
This is one of the most important videos you've done. Seen so many guitarists who are the same volume during their solos as the rhythm player 😩
I love watching your show guys. You have fun, I have fun, and I get to learn a few things along the way. Great tips.
I need more gain for my solos...I really do...cause Distortion hides mistakes..lol
Interesting observation I've made over the last 34 years of playing in bands.
The mid boosting, in my opinion, is more effective in bigger bands with a rhythm guitar player and a keyboard.
However, in a trio setup, (bass, drums, and guitar), the mid boosting didn't give me such favorable results. It made the whole band sound weak and thin during the solos. I always found it necessary to slightly boost the mids, but I also had to boost the lows too. Otherwise I would get lost in the mix.
Am I alone with this opinion?
What do you guys think? The difference between playing in a trio as opposed to being in a bigger band.
By the way, most of the time I play without effects.
On very special occasions I'll add a wah and an analog delay which I'll only activate for solos. And I set it to where you barely hear it.
Last week episode was fun and great, This one was a learning/fun/great experience.
Thanks for showing the differences in sound and being honest in giving your insights about each pedal and perception on the use for each, that is what sets apart That Pedal Show in my opinion.
This show is a dream come true about tone and learning more about great gear.
I need to go into hyper space hibernation and wake up only for next Friday.
Very informative. Love all your videos. Awesome job, guys!!!
what do you guys think about the modern modeling or profiling equipment, like kemper or positive grid? I would like to see you demo this stuff and comment it in your unique, funny and informative way
My fulltone fulldrive 3 solved all of my soloing issues.
What settings do you use? I have a Fulldrive 3 too and thought it would make a great solo boost. Do you use the main over drive and kick the boost in for solos? Or set up both to use as 2 different sounding boosts for solos?
I've got one too and can get some decent sounds out of it. Can I ask how you set it and use it for rhythm versus lead? Do you use the 90s mode toggle or the asym wide mode?
+pjlenny22 for solos I'll kick in the boost side set to about 9 o'clock. It's got a ton of headroom and I find if you use it with another od pedal you can get some great tones. The left side I use in the wide mode for some squishy rhythm tones and I'll use comp cut for a more crunchy boost. Hopefully this helps!
+zaqintosh I stick to the wide mode for rhythm and light lead and I'll kick in the boost side if I need a volume bump for a solo.
+Gavin McLeod makes sense! Are you using the boost in front of the gain stage or after on the fulldrive? (Cool that it even lets you toggle that!)
Having the little jams, so awesome. Definitely more of both of you playing together at the same time 👍
Thank you both so much for these fantastic videos. You guys have been such an inspiration in helping me find my own guitar sound. Your channel has some of the most entertaining and educational guitar vids on TH-cam. The chemistry between you guys is fantastic and makes the videos seem so genuine. Thanks again!
+B Red ah, cheers B, entirely our pleasure
pls do another challenge, maybe if you had a budget to make a board for a certain purpose e.g. a blues board for £500
Yes!
I like a good challenge. Yes pls
+Eoghan Myers Yes!
+That Pedal Show feeling the love back here in Bris Vegas guys. Cheers. Can't wait.
vote for new TPS t-shirt.
"plicky plicky plicky plicky plick...."
Great work guys, very informative. Thank you very much, keep up the great content.
So you two wonderfully talented and amazing gentlemen have already taught me so much. I've only been watching your videos for roughly a month, however you two keep me not only engaged but open to criticizing my own knowledge. You two have opened worlds for me that I've always wanted to explore, but never knew how to. Thank you.
+Richie Heyward Thank you so much Richie. Comments like that make it all worthwhile. We're very glad to be of some help. All we want is for everyone to enjoy their sound and playing more. Cheers!
Is the Zendrive and the Tube Screamer to alike to pair them together?
+marcus martin Not at all - they can be very very different. Cheers!
Cool, thanks for the reply.
So you need to stack your booster into your OD blah blah...hit the front of your overdriven amp with a tube screamer blah blah blah...carpe diem blah blah............what I really want to know , is what pedal will make me rich and more attractive to women?
+plantagenant You need to get into drugs and guns, really. They usually do the trick.
Who else but "That Pedal Show" could give me such great advice!....you guys!...;)...
Probably the Empress Compressor. Looks like a space ship, stinks like sex.
Boss Metal Zone. :D
There's one on the market today that's called PRACTICE. 😁😁
one of the best episode ever... thank you guys, such a huge inspiration and help!
the jam around 43 minutes is just absolutely beautiful. I had to fight back tears, it was that emotional!
Someone turn 15:50 - 15:57 on into a gif
Here it is: makeagif.com/i/vwBGGU :D
+dudamelguitar love the gif
Is the typo on purpose? I tried making one with the text "When your fresh strings settle in"
+NYC LP Player didn't pick the typo. Was sleepy and watching it at 4am local time. Fell v Feel. Needs a fix.
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Thank guys so much for helping me understand how to use this stuff! I've been playing for a while and wish I had advice like this 20 years ago. I may not have the exact same set up you guys, but I try my best to apply what you show to my rig with what I have and I have noticed a considerable improvement...even my band mates have noticed. It may have taken me me a while but like Dan said "it's the one moment where you can stand up and be counted and be heard" and all the little things you talked about have worked for me! I really enjoy your show I always look forward to a new one every week. if you get the chance please check out my band on Facebook at thembonesli
PS....P-90s rule!
+Adam Lombardo That's great to hear Adam, nice one! That's what we're here for at the end of the day, just to help us all move in the direction we want to go. We're stoked that the show is useful for you.
Great to have you on board!
That Pedal Show During a NAMM video with the Andertons channel Dan mentioned with the Captain that you would be doing a show on how the "old" amps and pedals worked with each other...kind of a total vintage recreation if you will. I always wondered how Hendrix and Gilmore had live rigs that actually worked and we're somewhat reliable...is that show coming down the pike?
Cheers guys, I really enjoyed this video. Keep 'em coming!
You guys are my favorite TH-cam channel right now! I really enjoy the content and you're playing as well!
I feel as tho the Name Drop Horn has been abandoned. :( lol
+8 Strings Of Death Fear not. Dan and I have been severely chastised for our misdemeanours. And we've put corrective measures in place. We Are Sorry.
No worries guys! It's hard to keep up with Name Drop Horns when you guys are Dropping Massive Knowledge instead! All is forgiven!! :)))
Okay.... I just got to the part where the Name Drop Horn rules are explained :)
+8 Strings Of Death thanks Mr Death
I missed it too!
that krautster😞
That Krautster is gorgeous. Sounds brilliant. Wish I could afford one.
+Dean Sabatino have you seen one in sea foam green? Whoa.
After watching once again, the tip from Daniel regarding the tone is amazing. Therefore in order to properly boost for solos I may be searching for a compressor that I may change the tone, just as Daniel said, reducing the low end and focusing on mids and a little treble for solos. Amazing how the beautiful rhythm tone sounded muddy and obscure when only boosted on volume. But after changing the tone it really combined and pronounced better the lead guitar without a need to increase the volume too much. I liked that. Great tips guys. GREAT tips. Keep it up!! Cheers from Brazil
How great was this episode! A-maziing! I can watch it again and again. Cheers guys!
300+ views in 10 seconds wow!
like this pls
no
ok
Too much gain, and you won't be haired!
I can't think of a better way to spend a few minutes on Christmas Day than watching a replay from my favorite TH-cam channel - That Pedal Show. You know, you guys have already built a veritable reference library with the episodes you've done so far. And it's amazing how much stuff I missed or didn't retain from the first time I watched this episode. So glad I that I can go back and pick up those bits of good advice.
+Steve Comeau ah, cheers Steve. Glad you've enjoyed the show, Merry Christmas :)
And I’m watching it 6 years later a few days after Christmas. Awesome!
This is FASCINATING and so very helpful. Thanks guys!
20:55 - the greatest lesson I have ever learned on TPS. The fact that you can have a glorious sound in a vacuum of a single instrument / rig. But when in the presence of the dynamic of a band that sound is lost. That was an amazing revelation. When the instrument /rig is using nearly the entire audio spectrum in a bedroom sound, you can't cut through the mix of those other frequencies in a live band setting. ( search - Interactive Frequency Chart). Thank you TPS. This is a Master Class!
Great tones and advice, as usual, Dan & Mick. Thanks for the news.
As Robben Ford says "You gotta have a 'Zendrive' ''. Then again, he also said, "You gotta have a 'Dumble' ". The man's a legend and I've been following him since the early '90s, '91, I think. A Zendrive ain't cheap and a Dumble, well...
Hi Guy's this is without doubt the best vid i have seen on youtube about tones and pedals, so much good info and advice, Thankyou!!!
Jamin' until the break of dawn,
Good one fellas, Mick's reaction when Dan shreds is priceless, highlight for sure.
Keep up the stellar content, love it.
Another awesome Friday Morning! Great topic...well communicated. Good fun...Thanks Guys!
Very good video, thanks for the explanations... made it much clearer to me.
I just wanted to thank you guys. I grew up as the only "Musically Inclined" kid in town, and had to learn many things about guitar by myself. Even now that I'm older, I think this show is great and very helpful. I learn something from every episode. Please keep making videos. There really needs to me more channels like this one online for guitarists.
+Kyle Patterson Thank you Kyle, we really appreciate it. It never stops, we're still learning too!
Thank you for another great video and great insight to the world of guitar. Learned so much from the video.
LOVE your videos. So informative. Thank you!
Nice seeing you guys jam together. You don't do enough of that!
Great work as always guys. I've recommended you to many a friend!
That 'hey Crunchie it's Friday' feeling I am soo getting from your Friday shows :))
Keep up the good work!
I like that you all put this into context but I love that you kept it to a couple measures lol. Other shows play on and on and skip all the useful info. This was perfect.
Hi guys, just wanted to say thanks. Always feel really inspired after watching your show. Just why can't you do more! Haha seriously though thanks been watching you guys since the start and my rig although now probably a little outrageous sounds better than ever. Even had compliments on my tone after gigs and that's down to you guys! Thanks again!
+Philip Downs ah, cheers Phil, you're so welcome :)
Love this episode. I look forward to these all the time, I'm like a kid on Christmas when a new video comes out. You guys rock!
+MrDT543 ha! Cheers MrD :)
GREAT SHOW GUYS! MY FAVORITE SHOW OF ALL TIMES! THANKS A LOT FOR TLC FOR YOUR FELLOW GUITARISTS. GREAT WISDOM BEING SHARED TO US HERE! GOD BLESS YOU MICK & DANIEL!
Superb as always chaps- I've learned a lot from this -the noise of pennies dropping was only slightly louder than the new tone I dialed in thanks to this vid.
This video change the way i use my pedals. I read in a lot of forums that the TS9 go before the Rat, but i was needing a boost for my solos. Im gonna try the TS9 after the Rat and see what happens. Thank for all your help guys. You are amazing ✊🏻 Greetings from Chile
I got the notification from TH-cam that this video had been uploaded last night about 45 minutes before I went on stage. I watched the first half of it, turned the bass and gain down on my blackstar dual valve overdrive/distortion pedal a bit.... Best solo tones of my life! thank you so much you absolute legends!!
+Callum McNab Callum, what a fantastic comment. So glad it was helpful. Thanks for letting us know :)
Unquestionably one of the best episodes you've done - watch and learn!
One of the best videos you guys have done, congrats. I always find myself opening up a vid, intending to watch for just a short period, skipping around, but often get sucked in and watch the whole video. If it isn't beating a dead horse yet, and you guys are wanting to do more gain staging focused, I'd love to see ones about compressor/od/boost placement (comp pre or post od?, how boost interact with comps, doubling up comps, etc.), or good use for speaker attenuators and comparison of popular/quality models (even though they are not really pedals). Thanks for the time, energy, and compassion you guys put into this, it's much appreciated.
Doh, just came across the "Clean Boost, Compressor, Treble Boost and Overdrive: What Order?" on the old YT channel, exactly what I was looking for! Though, you mentioned in another show about using a boost in the loop to drive the power amp, pairing that up with attenuators could make for an interesting show. Thanks again.
Super practical info in this one. Thanks guys!
Hi Mick and Dan! Congratulations, Great video. Thanks.
Great hearing the double tracker in this context guys! Excellent work!
Crunchy goodness, yes! You speak guitar, and I totally like your guitar choices...excellent! I subscribed after I was introduced to your channel on "Reverb." Your info is right-on. Keep up the good work.
Thank you guys! Learned a lot from this one and I'm excited to try it out in our next gig!
Love the show - you cover all sorts, including a reminder of the fundamentals that can get forgotten when experimenting!
With our shared love of pedals comes a common problem - the pre and post solo step dance to turn effects on and off.
I would love to see a shoot out or even just explanation in the pro's and con's of pedal switchers/ loopers and the best way to go about setting them up, using them live, budget vs. top wallop, patch cable quality etc.
Keep on rocking Mick and Dan! ✌️
+James Bayliss thanks James. Switching is a very important thing to me, that's why I set up TheGigRig and why we use the G2 to do all our switching. So yes, maybe an in depth look at the subject is in order
That was much more informative than I thought it would be. Apologies and thank you! Love this channel.
Great job guys, this is one of your best videos so far. You've been saying this same stuff for a while, but this one gave several "eureka" moments that helped a lot with how I set up my pedals and amp.
+InatorCorp We love it when that happens! Happy toning Inator!
Very insightful. Your videos are well appreciated.
Again guys.... well done video... lots of great information.... nice chops Dan and Mick... appreciative guitarist
+Letzrockitrite Thank you Bestnameonyoutube. ;0)
GREAT SHOW guys! Diggin' it! Very helpful too. MANY THANKS for doing it!
+Onur You're welcome Onur, thanks for watching!
I love you guys!!!! You are AWESOME!!!!! Your videos are seriously instructive!
Awesome show as always! Thanks guys!
Great video, guys! It was very educational and helped to reconfirm some things that I've been learning recently.
I've watched a few videos of Paul Gilbert playing with other stredd stars (like Guthrie Govan and Joe Satriani), and he's really goes for a clean sound in those settings. It was cool because it really made his solos stand out. They were punchier and easier to hear.
Perfect explanation! I will be sharing this around my Facebook I know so many guitarist that just don't get it right. Nice one chaps