Speaking as one who works in the mining industry....everyone is saying that hole is for ventilation, but its actually an escape hole. The pipe going down it is what's left of piping used to pump the water out of the lower portions of the mine. Those of you speculating on what the machinery did....those were mostly large industrial ventilation fans underwater.
I know your comment is a year old,but from your knowledge,why did that pipe move and the metal railing shake so violently after he exited that submerged escape hole?
Love the channel. You guys do some fun stuff. A few words of advice though from a divemaster with a cave certification. The breathing pattern on scuba was dangerous. Always begin exhale right after inhale. That slight breath hold can cause a carbon dioxide buildup that can make you pass out. I know the spare air he was breathing from was small, but it's better to use what you need when you need than to pass out and drown. Also, entering that ladder well should never be done without proper training and equipment. Something like that, even when you only go shallow, can be fatal without proper training and equipment. Not trying to be hard on you guys, but I would hate for someone who watched this video try to duplicate it with fatal results. All that being said, that's a cool mine! Looked like lot's of fun!
@@RT710. I've read about the sacred Breath of Fire 🔥 technique. I'm not sure how safe it is for diving but it is really powerful, so it is to be used responsibly. Similarly the breath of Ice aka Wim Hof breathing. He took it from the sacred monks' teachings or so they say.
@@RT710. we teach to breathe in 123, breathe out 123456. Sometimes we will extend the exhale to a 9 count but we try to breathe fairly normal. If you delay the exhale to long you are still building up CO2 in your blood stream. It's actually the build up of Co2 that triggers the desire to breathe more heavily. if I'm remembering the physiology correctly, the Co2 is constantly building. It builds more quickly when you are physically actice like when your swimming. So unless its exhaled at the rate it builds the Co2 will continue to build up until there is not enough room for oxygen to make it through the blood stream.
Just a heads up, mine waters are often contaminated with heavy metals. Those big pipes with motors are for air ventilation. Smaller pipes are dewatering and the white PVC going down the ladder is likely for fresh water supply. That leaderway is an emergency escape way.
Why this isn't top comment is strange. Heavy metals can be very dangerous. I also wonder what the air quality is in that mine. Get back in there and then they all pass out. I'm sure CO2 builds up in there
The deeper the water the more weight there is, this makes any vibrations get magnified the deeper you go. Think of that metal ladder as a tuning fork. The sudden pressure and vibration difference that the diver created, had a feedback effect. This phenomena is known as "water well shock". Him criming out of the whole from such a depth caused some of the water to become more heave and send a "reppel" down to the deeper water. Once hitting the "bottom" that reppel traveled back up shaking the metal stares "well shock".
you gotta be extremely careful when diving narrow passages like that ladder hole. moving to fast creates a pressure change and sends waves thru the entire body of water and results in well shock. not only could it suck you away from your holding but it could spit you out too besides more common it creates damage to fragile environments and creates silt and other debris to kick up and things could collapse or fall. i discovered this the hard way when urban exploring some old steam/ drainage pipes. there was a small section that was completely under water but we had passed thru when it was less filled. my buddy went before me and i was a couple feet behind. when he pulled himself out it sucked me along but then it shot me back and i accidently kicked my friend who was behind me. i stated to panic cus i didnt have much air left in me and a barley got out. but in my panic i caused my buddy behind me to get shot back into the pipe deeper and he ran out of air. i tied off a rope real quick and dove back in to feel him out cold. i grabbed onto him and gave my rope 3 big tugs meaning pull us out. we gave him cpr and he choked up a bunch of water. he was okay but very scared. he never went in a tunnel after that and i swore to never go in a fully submerged pipe. be safe and dont go past your limits of safety. if you ever think this could be very dangerous without the proper gear and training just dont do it.
I was only open air confined space, never underwater. Can’t because of my goddamn seizures. I’m glad your buddy made it though. Everything can go wrong in a split second down there.
Terrifying. The things that make you wary are those near miss situations. The more you dive, the higher the chance of something going wrong, that's why we train and practice and promote safety above all else. Dude didn't have fins and weights on a pony bottle? Got to be kidding me, combined with underwater structures and possible gas fluctuations and movement of the platforms this is a Darwin award waiting to happen. At least get a modicum of training and correct equipment for tech diving like that. It's very easy to die down there, It's not our domain- it's more like outer space when you dive than being on land.
It is still better than a small red sign at base of a huge concrete dam, reading: "No Warning Alarm Occurs Before Flood Gates Are Opened." Which I read while in my kayak between the damn discharge portals.
“So the group ventured onward with a hope that things would simply get better, but to no avail they all tragically passed and the cave was closed off to the public for good.” Thank u for watching mrballen
Your air tank running out was probably a blessing in disguise he definitely would have explored deeper if he had more air and would've got stuck in the silt and blinded resulting in his death most likely
Someone with sub mechanical via you have no idea how much it scares me seeing that ominous look of machinery just below the surface with murky water. I'm an experienced swimmer and I've swim in caves and freedom but for some reason machinery just gives me the hebi jeebies.
There's always been something about a ladder that delves into the depths of flooded waters. Ladders usually enable from ground level to go up, but the ones that are flooded are always from ground level to go deeper in a euphoric sensation of almost wanting to be flooded since the day they were built knowing they'll be obsolete with anti gravity properties of scuba divers floating past them.
Always look out for underwater currents in mined cave there usually is an underwater spring somehwere that caused the mining to hault those underwater spring make very strong currents and can sweep you away to anywhere in the caves system please be careful people 😎✊🏻
I do not think this cave had any current. This giant iron pipe going to the surface has unknow use but the water falling nearby it is probably the source of why this cave is flooded this much. 10 years ago the water level was probably many feets lower than this. A cave below sea surface wont any any significant current, if any. Only caves at sea level can have strong water current and potentially Rain flood surge
@@TwinShards in the quarries where we live there a very very strong underwater current from the underwater springs they hit 100 years ago while mining limestone divers get sucked away so they dont dive here anymore and if they do its to pull stolen cars and they dont dive towards the caves due to high current flow underground to all 20 lakes and ponds that are connected underground by the caves they mines for limestone there is hundreds of caves down there so we can access from above ground but the water is always ice cold even ar the entrances its like walking into air conditioning in the summer but all the caves connect to all of our lakes around town and they always have a very strong flow down to the river it never stop raging because the underwater springs keep them all constanly filled and like i said a lot if diver get sucked away with there last words on the mic not being pleasent
The McAllister quarry in Oklahoma was pretty deep, they was boring and hit a water pocket and it flooded the whole quarry. Left all the machinery underwater and all that. Only had enough time to run away
It looked like further down the ladder there was a blockage of stones that the PVC pipe was sitting on wrapped up in the ladder and I think when he stepped on the PVC pipe getting out it disturbed that and caused it to drop down to a lower level
Was thinking the same thing. Lost Mines over in the UK recently started using one. Able to go far & get some amazing shots. All without endangering themselves.
I'm legit scared for you guys lives, pipes, plumbing, in a water way, usually mean there is water being pumped there or water being sucked out of there. I'm glad everyone is okay but going down that pipe with a mini tank could have been disastrous, I would hate to imagine what would have happened had that system you were in became active. Be safe out there you guys!
A pump is unlikely to be active in a flooded cave this deep. This giant iron pipe going to the surface has unknow use but the water falling nearby it is probably the source of why this cave is flooded this much. 10 years ago the water level was probably many feets lower than this.
The discomfort that I have felt throughout the video has been quite an experience. Keep up the videos, awkward or not (for me cause yes, phobias), they're great to watch.
In what scenario of your imagination would flow ever start in that pipe? Only way I can see is if there was an air-filled void somewhere beneath, and and walls holding back the water happened to rupture while they are in the pipe. But pressure would have equalised years ago. It's fine.
god I have such a big fear of deep water, or underground flooded areas. idk why. the main thing that scares me is what could be in the water, or just in general big things that are underwater. it's just videos like this that keep me in suspense for some reason. like if yall have the same fear
Wait.. so drowning is somehow less of a concern for you? Couldn't anywhere dark, liquid or not, be a reasonable place for unknown dangers to lurk? Like there's no giant squids in flooded mineshafts, but plenty of water with which to drown. But above the surface, there are countless things that can surprise you. Like for instance, what if there was a verrrry quiet, worryingly sweaty, stalker lurking just out of eyesight in your closet right now.. Living in a cocoon like nest of food packaging and strands of your own hair, this admirer spends the nights simply observing and the days dreaming of their twisted fantasies. Every day. For the past four years. That shit can happen in literally anywhere... anywhere except a deep water, or underground flooded area. In this environment, there would be insufficient oxygen to support this Helga Pataki-esque horrific hypothetical. Hopefully. My point is, the best way to address submechanophobia is to remind oneself of the sheer, agonizingly cruel, uncertainty in all other aspects of our existence. Oh and avoiding flooded mines and sinking ships. I hope this helps with your fear of the unknown. Well, goodnight.
Everything up to 14:05 is fine. My brain would have noticed the smaller pipe blocking the downward shaft and said nope see thats how you tell man isnt supposed to enter here. Installing a pipe permanently over the entrance should tell you not to go further.
In guessing that pipe was installed when the mine originally started to flood. They probably used that as a way to pump the water out. Either the mine became useless so they stopped pumping and let it flood or it was flooding faster than they could pump it out.
Those look to be water intake pipes. Be really really careful diving there if one of those pipes turn on and start sucking water you wouldn't have a chance of getting away.
@@maxxxmodelz4061 I think it was just from them disturbing everything if there was any sort of flow it would be clear they would have went in and never been seen again
@@chrishagerty5467 I just watched their "follow up" video where they send a GoPro down there. You can clearly see a bunch of rocks fell onto a platform about 30 feet down where the diver had just about touched. That's what the shaking and sound were I would imagine.
Respect to their sense of adventure and the nerve it took to do this. Correct me if I'm wrong though - did he go into that thing with only a minute of air? (he says something about having used all the air when he emerges). If so that is madness and stupidity. Please if you have the nerve to do this kind of thing, invest in the proper gear
I’m glad he didn’t test how deep it went , I don’t know much about diving , but I do know weird shit starts happen to you the deeper you go , because of the water pressure and if you don’t have the right tank and oxygen mixture.
@@thedoge9590 I think you should re read what I said , the first sentence in particular …. and did you see what he was using ? That little bottle the size of a soda can , diving into the unknown with something that probably give you less than 10 min oxygen depending how deep your breaths are is insane.
@ray vang yea that "little bottle" is called a pony bottle which is designed as a small backup I wouldn't use it on a extended dive but it'll give you enough air for what he seemed to do. Either way you were going on about different gad mixtures and "weird shit" happening I'm guessing you were talking about nitrox and trimix which trimix you only use on technical dives going past 130 ft and nitrix I guess he could have used since it was a shallow dive, as for the "weird shit" I'm guessing you are talking about nitrogen narcosis which wouldn't have happened here since you need to be breathing normal air at depths past 130 ft.....you clearly don't know what you're talking about and you even say so in your OP yet you want to try and argue lol
As a 17 year commercial diver, I would tell you that entering that pipe with that shitty gear and your obvious lack of training is a stupid and unnecessarily dangerous thing to do.
@@gavinfranklin8068, not out of high school? Your not very bright are you? You can't even spell. Do you even know what a commercial diver is? I spent 17 years diving in the marine and industrial sectors. Many of those dives were into confined spaces. So I do know that I'm talking about. There were no safety protocols in place and their gear was a novelty at best.
@@Choosafunga777, do you think I'm lying? I spent 17 years commercial diving in the Mid Atlantic region and 2 plus months in Nova Scotia. I've done salvage, construction, vessel repairs, and submerged pipeline and tank diving. It takes specialized training, equipment, and a lot of experience to do confined entry dives. None of that was demonstrated in this video. It was reckless behavior that could have put the one in the pipe in serious danger regardless of the depth. If he had gotten stuck that air supply would not have lasted more than a couple minutes at best. Doing shit like this also puts rescue personnel at risk if they are needed.
Can't help but think that the vibration and subsequent water release further back in the mine was do to disturbing air pockets within that piece of machinery and piping. I understand the thrill of this but man, be careful. 🙏🏻
I just wanna know who tagged that pipe before those mines flooded. Seems like this place has been explored before, be interesting to see how it looked before the water
Why don't his friends tell him that diving in unknown abandoned mine tubes with 2 minutes of air is a bad, bad idea? Why don't they care enough for him?
I’m jealous! Awesome adventure dudes 🤙. You guys need to drop the camera down that shaft with a nice light set up.....it probably goes to a whole different level! Deploy the mini sub 😂
Any explanation for the shaking and the moving pipe? There was also a sound that sounded like water off to the right. Did you see anything? I'm guessing something collapsed down there. The sound too the right is odd though because we didn't see any bubbles at the ladder. Perhaps further off out of frame?
It’s called “well shock” Basically disturbed motion of the water and it’s displacement reaches the bottom or sides and “reflects” or bounces back, and in this case it interferes with the apparatus.
This com.ent section gave me faith in humanity. Constructive stern polite criticism and OP responded and liked some...easy sub🥰💯💯 Also looked fun af as a Blk person I just can't but it looked dope af
@kcarch25unkown27 I must add, I might actually be wrong in that. Caves usually are, but since it's water it could be flowing in colder (or warmer) from somewhere. Although I guess it's ground water, which should also be the median temperature.
If it hasn't been beat to death already, the risk of embolism by skip-breathing and breath holding on a spare air in shallow water is significant, even likely. Please- never hold your breath when breathing compressed gases under water. That being said, what a great place to dive and explore!
@@biggibbs4678 but even they maintained a certain level of safety. The rules of safety were created because people weren't safe and died for their actions. It's always best when exploring to err on the side of safety. These guys are not trained professionals, so they are not explorers or inventors accepting a specific risk.
Yeah having covered and read about more than a handful of diving deaths, you wouldnt catch me dead doing something this silly. A caves a grave but an under water tube with a rusty ladder and only so much oxygen? Thats asking for serious trouble.
Glad I found your adventures. I've always wanted to do these things but never found people that were into it. Good luck to all exploring the depths and most important be safe!
Well you need to be certified for cave diving for such things, i would not recommend doing so, diving in cave without proper training increases risk of fatal accident, there was plenty accidents over the years, it might look safe and everything but its actually not.
@@Krahamus I am quite aware that you need to be certified and experienced to do these things. And I realize it's not safe, so I'm perfectly fine watching others that are experienced on their adventures.
At 16:10 you see a bunch of rocks in the tube against the pipe. When he stepped on it, it mustve dislodged those rocks and the vibration was them falling/settling and the pipe being knocked free.
You guys have to go back and put a go pro with a super flash light on it and see what’s down there! You can’t leave us hanging with just seeing a big opening
A stupid level. These places are extremely dangerous for reasons that aren't clearly seen. Like the water pressure level causing the ladder vibrations to shake violently.
I noticed he stepped on the pipe when he got out of the tube. The pipe extends down, so I’m assuming when he stepped on it the pipe it pushed down a little and unwedged something pinned against it farther down.
I’ve always wanted to see down there lol I’ve seen people put GoPros and stuff down a line. Way too dangerous for a person though. Think you might of moved a rock loose from the metal hitting the pipe which hit the rocks.
Ah, I see what happened - you stepped on the pipe lol, the vibrations were caused by the pipe rubbing against the metal sidewalls of the shaft, which reverberated through the platform and silted up the interior. I'm not sure what the specific physics were behind the pipe readjustment but it's extremely intuitive if you've encountered a similar phenomenon before. The pipe was probably running perpendicular to the floor when the place flooded, and the most natural place for it to settle as the place floods would be up against the side of the frame - this is stable but only so long as no force is applied across the pipe's length.... which is what you did when you stepped on it lol. A very small amount of compression would be enough to get the pipe to bow slightly, with the degree of deflection being larger the longer that pipe is (and I expect it's pretty damn long like 3 stories at least) at which point the pipe wants to move.... but the top part resting against the sidewalls served as a pivot point, it was only likely to move along that axis - and it did, ever so slightly, which angled the top part of the pipe closer to horizontal, until the force of friction between the siding and the pipe was no longer enough to stop it from releasing, and it did like a bow running across a string.... or a pvc pipe across metal siding 😆
Sweet home sweet! Title had me crunching down comments to prep myself for worst case scenario but in all, great video, crew! That tremble pipe was in fact eery by all means! Safe & sound, glad all went smooth🤜🏻🤛🏻
Just to let everyone know, doing things like this is perfectly safe for everyone of all ages. Bring your kids and your grandparents. Using rocks as diving weights is a great way to save money on pointless gear. Everyone get out there and explore this summer. I'll see you down there!
that blocked clogged debris that he looked at before he rose back up the ladder well. must have broke free as he was coming out he brought that water with them this place the weight onto the deck and as he was climbing now he might have used something for leverage and vibrated that pipe and all that clogged blockage pile up Broke Free and fell down the only way to know for sure is would be to dive back down and look.probably wouldn't risk it though cool video
That was an awesome explore! Little sketchy in the tube. Looked like there may of been something down there that the go pro could of seen sending it down by itself. Excellent Adventure 👍
@@Renard380 agreed, but relax friend..He did use correct spelling and punctuation unlike yourself. (I am no better) If David utilized speech-to-text to post his comment, it IS possible he MAY have said "could've" slow enough for the phone to pick up "could of".
Speaking as one who works in the mining industry....everyone is saying that hole is for ventilation, but its actually an escape hole. The pipe going down it is what's left of piping used to pump the water out of the lower portions of the mine. Those of you speculating on what the machinery did....those were mostly large industrial ventilation fans underwater.
Thank you!!!!!
I know your comment is a year old,but from your knowledge,why did that pipe move and the metal railing shake so violently after he exited that submerged escape hole?
Thanks
@@nix-cipherthat was the spirit escaping
@@acmhfmggru seriously tho
This is how you end up on a Mr. Ballen video. Interesting video though. I wonder what the machines were used for?
Mr ballen!!! Hell yeah!!! The strange dark and mysterious??
Underrated comment
This is definitely how you end up on a mrballen video delivered in story format.
love mr.ballen !!!
Only true subscribers know this comment is gold
Love the channel. You guys do some fun stuff. A few words of advice though from a divemaster with a cave certification. The breathing pattern on scuba was dangerous. Always begin exhale right after inhale. That slight breath hold can cause a carbon dioxide buildup that can make you pass out. I know the spare air he was breathing from was small, but it's better to use what you need when you need than to pass out and drown.
Also, entering that ladder well should never be done without proper training and equipment. Something like that, even when you only go shallow, can be fatal without proper training and equipment.
Not trying to be hard on you guys, but I would hate for someone who watched this video try to duplicate it with fatal results.
All that being said, that's a cool mine! Looked like lot's of fun!
Excellent advice!!
They should pin this comment to the top!
Would it be a better technique to start the exhale immediately, but then exhale slowly so that you’re taking more time between breaths?
@@RT710. I've read about the sacred Breath of Fire 🔥 technique. I'm not sure how safe it is for diving but it is really powerful, so it is to be used responsibly. Similarly the breath of Ice aka Wim Hof breathing. He took it from the sacred monks' teachings or so they say.
@@RT710. we teach to breathe in 123, breathe out 123456. Sometimes we will extend the exhale to a 9 count but we try to breathe fairly normal. If you delay the exhale to long you are still building up CO2 in your blood stream. It's actually the build up of Co2 that triggers the desire to breathe more heavily. if I'm remembering the physiology correctly, the Co2 is constantly building. It builds more quickly when you are physically actice like when your swimming. So unless its exhaled at the rate it builds the Co2 will continue to build up until there is not enough room for oxygen to make it through the blood stream.
Just a heads up, mine waters are often contaminated with heavy metals.
Those big pipes with motors are for air ventilation. Smaller pipes are dewatering and the white PVC going down the ladder is likely for fresh water supply. That leaderway is an emergency escape way.
Idk why this isn’t the top comment.
Is there a way to test the water? Can you use those hot tub testers?
I'm always curious of how they built that in a cave
Why this isn't top comment is strange. Heavy metals can be very dangerous. I also wonder what the air quality is in that mine. Get back in there and then they all pass out. I'm sure CO2 builds up in there
Yes the yellow silt is likely something you don't want to disturb ...
The deeper the water the more weight there is, this makes any vibrations get magnified the deeper you go. Think of that metal ladder as a tuning fork. The sudden pressure and vibration difference that the diver created, had a feedback effect. This phenomena is known as "water well shock". Him criming out of the whole from such a depth caused some of the water to become more heave and send a "reppel" down to the deeper water. Once hitting the "bottom" that reppel traveled back up shaking the metal stares "well shock".
couldn't find anything about this could you drop a link?
Lmao Nice Google copy
also if you look close he steps on the pipe getting out. 16.40
You spelt "phenomena" right but got "coming" "hole" "heavy" "stairs" and "ripple" all wrong
what?
you gotta be extremely careful when diving narrow passages like that ladder hole. moving to fast creates a pressure change and sends waves thru the entire body of water and results in well shock. not only could it suck you away from your holding but it could spit you out too besides more common it creates damage to fragile environments and creates silt and other debris to kick up and things could collapse or fall. i discovered this the hard way when urban exploring some old steam/ drainage pipes. there was a small section that was completely under water but we had passed thru when it was less filled. my buddy went before me and i was a couple feet behind. when he pulled himself out it sucked me along but then it shot me back and i accidently kicked my friend who was behind me. i stated to panic cus i didnt have much air left in me and a barley got out. but in my panic i caused my buddy behind me to get shot back into the pipe deeper and he ran out of air. i tied off a rope real quick and dove back in to feel him out cold. i grabbed onto him and gave my rope 3 big tugs meaning pull us out. we gave him cpr and he choked up a bunch of water. he was okay but very scared. he never went in a tunnel after that and i swore to never go in a fully submerged pipe. be safe and dont go past your limits of safety. if you ever think this could be very dangerous without the proper gear and training just dont do it.
Such an interesting/informative story, thanks for sharing
You think that’s what caused the shaking? He displaced the water down there and it took a while to cause a reaction?
Scary man, confined spaces underwater is terrifying
I was only open air confined space, never underwater. Can’t because of my goddamn seizures. I’m glad your buddy made it though. Everything can go wrong in a split second down there.
Terrifying. The things that make you wary are those near miss situations. The more you dive, the higher the chance of something going wrong, that's why we train and practice and promote safety above all else.
Dude didn't have fins and weights on a pony bottle? Got to be kidding me, combined with underwater structures and possible gas fluctuations and movement of the platforms this is a Darwin award waiting to happen. At least get a modicum of training and correct equipment for tech diving like that. It's very easy to die down there, It's not our domain- it's more like outer space when you dive than being on land.
It's scary that there is probably more space below the water than above it. That place is terrifying.
Not just that, but also that it's in complete pitch black darkness
It is still better than a small red sign at base of a huge concrete dam,
reading: "No Warning Alarm Occurs Before Flood Gates Are Opened."
Which I read while in my kayak between the damn discharge portals.
@@jcee2259damn. Respect your still here dude, that sounds like a bad time 😂
@@jcee2259 i wouldve sunk my kayak sheerly from pissing myself after reading that sign
You wanna wind up on a Mr.Ballen video? Cause this is how you wind up on a Mr.Ballen video.
“So the group ventured onward with a hope that things would simply get better, but to no avail they all tragically passed and the cave was closed off to the public for good.”
Thank u for watching mrballen
14:26, I would never go down that pipe. Without proper gear and training it’s a death wish.
Goes down about 5 rungs of the ladder... "I went down 20 feet!" lol
"WE Shouldn't Have Gone Down There" yeah that should be the the title OF EVERY VIDEO
I only purchased one reverse gear. How may reversals did you want ?
Too many risks guys , if you keep doing stuff like this without proper training or gear your luck WILL run out eventually. Be safe.
Dont be a lil bitch
Nice comment
@@henrypollock7987 shit happens every day to divers that are not properly trained and don't have the right gear so chill out Lil bitch
Shut up.
@@yvfkm also shit happens to trained divers. it's a hella dangerous hobby.
Your air tank running out was probably a blessing in disguise he definitely would have explored deeper if he had more air and would've got stuck in the silt and blinded resulting in his death most likely
Someone with sub mechanical via you have no idea how much it scares me seeing that ominous look of machinery just below the surface with murky water. I'm an experienced swimmer and I've swim in caves and freedom but for some reason machinery just gives me the hebi jeebies.
A few years ago not one person I ever met knew that term. Now everyone has it. Goof balls
There's always been something about a ladder that delves into the depths of flooded waters. Ladders usually enable from ground level to go up, but the ones that are flooded are always from ground level to go deeper in a euphoric sensation of almost wanting to be flooded since the day they were built knowing they'll be obsolete with anti gravity properties of scuba divers floating past them.
I don't know what's going on in this conversation between you two.. And frankly, I'm not convinced that you do either..
@@88_TROUBLE_88 I am very lost on what is happening here as well 🕵
@@88_TROUBLE_88 I’m with you here
@dookie fingers true
I got brain cancer after reading this.
Always look out for underwater currents in mined cave there usually is an underwater spring somehwere that caused the mining to hault those underwater spring make very strong currents and can sweep you away to anywhere in the caves system please be careful people 😎✊🏻
I do not think this cave had any current. This giant iron pipe going to the surface has unknow use but the water falling nearby it is probably the source of why this cave is flooded this much. 10 years ago the water level was probably many feets lower than this.
A cave below sea surface wont any any significant current, if any. Only caves at sea level can have strong water current and potentially Rain flood surge
@@TwinShards in the quarries where we live there a very very strong underwater current from the underwater springs they hit 100 years ago while mining limestone divers get sucked away so they dont dive here anymore and if they do its to pull stolen cars and they dont dive towards the caves due to high current flow underground to all 20 lakes and ponds that are connected underground by the caves they mines for limestone there is hundreds of caves down there so we can access from above ground but the water is always ice cold even ar the entrances its like walking into air conditioning in the summer but all the caves connect to all of our lakes around town and they always have a very strong flow down to the river it never stop raging because the underwater springs keep them all constanly filled and like i said a lot if diver get sucked away with there last words on the mic not being pleasent
@Dr. Bright the springs flow underground through the caves to all the lakes yes people die is not a laughing matter you fuckin dumbass
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The McAllister quarry in Oklahoma was pretty deep, they was boring and hit a water pocket and it flooded the whole quarry. Left all the machinery underwater and all that. Only had enough time to run away
It looked like further down the ladder there was a blockage of stones that the PVC pipe was sitting on wrapped up in the ladder and I think when he stepped on the PVC pipe getting out it disturbed that and caused it to drop down to a lower level
my thoughts exactly will explain all the suit rising up
Is that like delta p?
Yes its stones, and if you want to see wahts below that ... th-cam.com/video/cbosUMACrUI/w-d-xo.html
@@spaniel5657 No XD. That's when there's fast running water on the ground. And then a hole in the pipe. Which basically pulls in water from outside.
you all need to get a underwater drone love the videos great work guys
Was thinking the same thing. Lost Mines over in the UK recently started using one. Able to go far & get some amazing shots. All without endangering themselves.
Can you include links or channel information? I'm interested in watching it to satisfy my curiosity 😊@@garyruss3529
I'm legit scared for you guys lives, pipes, plumbing, in a water way, usually mean there is water being pumped there or water being sucked out of there. I'm glad everyone is okay but going down that pipe with a mini tank could have been disastrous, I would hate to imagine what would have happened had that system you were in became active. Be safe out there you guys!
I just watched a video where 2 guys were killed who got sucked into some intake pipes whilst diving actually.
@@ChoppingtonOtter 😳 scary!
Link? Sounds like a learning video..
It's an abandoned mine, and that tube was for ventilation/ escape.
@@ChoppingtonOtter yeah can you share the link?
A pump is unlikely to be active in a flooded cave this deep. This giant iron pipe going to the surface has unknow use but the water falling nearby it is probably the source of why this cave is flooded this much. 10 years ago the water level was probably many feets lower than this.
The discomfort that I have felt throughout the video has been quite an experience.
Keep up the videos, awkward or not (for me cause yes, phobias), they're great to watch.
Well hey! The more you confront your fears willingly even starting by a small step will eventually lead you to become more brave
With people like this we are never gonna run out of Mr Ballen content.
Survival tip: Next time you're scuba diving in an abandoned mine and see a strange pipe, don't go inside it
In what scenario of your imagination would flow ever start in that pipe?
Only way I can see is if there was an air-filled void somewhere beneath, and and walls holding back the water happened to rupture while they are in the pipe.
But pressure would have equalised years ago.
It's fine.
You guys be one step away from being one of those tragic accident stories used to show what not to do while exploring past ones expertise.
And then it will be a MrBallen story
Goes diving to investigate a mysterious pipe
*Delta P enters chat
god I have such a big fear of deep water, or underground flooded areas. idk why. the main thing that scares me is what could be in the water, or just in general big things that are underwater. it's just videos like this that keep me in suspense for some reason. like if yall have the same fear
Same here
I got the same problem, I'd littlery scare myself to death.
Guess you didn't spend much time in the water growing up. Shame!
@@tonyvelasquez6776 i mean i used to go to like lakes and stuff at a cottage but i guess over time i developed that fear
Wait.. so drowning is somehow less of a concern for you? Couldn't anywhere dark, liquid or not, be a reasonable place for unknown dangers to lurk? Like there's no giant squids in flooded mineshafts, but plenty of water with which to drown. But above the surface, there are countless things that can surprise you. Like for instance, what if there was a verrrry quiet, worryingly sweaty, stalker lurking just out of eyesight in your closet right now.. Living in a cocoon like nest of food packaging and strands of your own hair, this admirer spends the nights simply observing and the days dreaming of their twisted fantasies. Every day. For the past four years. That shit can happen in literally anywhere... anywhere except a deep water, or underground flooded area. In this environment, there would be insufficient oxygen to support this Helga Pataki-esque horrific hypothetical. Hopefully.
My point is, the best way to address submechanophobia is to remind oneself of the sheer, agonizingly cruel, uncertainty in all other aspects of our existence. Oh and avoiding flooded mines and sinking ships.
I hope this helps with your fear of the unknown.
Well, goodnight.
This is something I would love to do but I have a really weird semi-extreme fear of underwater machinery and stuff.
submechanaphobia
Does that go for boats as well? ...I get absolutely terrified looking at boats and things that have sank or been flooded....
Its called common sense! Direct opposite of common death wish!!
especially when you see all the green moss and stuff
Same
Usually the title is clickbait. Not the case here.. Glad everyone is safe and that tube is most definitely creepy! Thanks for the cool vidz!
17:00 - Narrowly avoiding Delta P
Everything up to 14:05 is fine. My brain would have noticed the smaller pipe blocking the downward shaft and said nope see thats how you tell man isnt supposed to enter here. Installing a pipe permanently over the entrance should tell you not to go further.
In guessing that pipe was installed when the mine originally started to flood. They probably used that as a way to pump the water out. Either the mine became useless so they stopped pumping and let it flood or it was flooding faster than they could pump it out.
I don't know anything about this but I love how everyone in the comments knows so much
Those look to be water intake pipes. Be really really careful diving there if one of those pipes turn on and start sucking water you wouldn't have a chance of getting away.
What do you think caused that shaking? Was it pressure differential from the diver going down there or was it a pipe turning on somewhere below them?
Delta p moment
@@PocketOMoxie exactly
@@maxxxmodelz4061 I think it was just from them disturbing everything if there was any sort of flow it would be clear they would have went in and never been seen again
@@chrishagerty5467 I just watched their "follow up" video where they send a GoPro down there. You can clearly see a bunch of rocks fell onto a platform about 30 feet down where the diver had just about touched. That's what the shaking and sound were I would imagine.
Respect to their sense of adventure and the nerve it took to do this. Correct me if I'm wrong though - did he go into that thing with only a minute of air? (he says something about having used all the air when he emerges). If so that is madness and stupidity. Please if you have the nerve to do this kind of thing, invest in the proper gear
I’m glad he didn’t test how deep it went , I don’t know much about diving , but I do know weird shit starts happen to you the deeper you go , because of the water pressure and if you don’t have the right tank and oxygen mixture.
Bro he went down like 20 feet.....you don't need different gas mixtures till you get pass 130 ft and nitrogen narcosis kicks in
@@thedoge9590 I think you should re read what I said , the first sentence in particular …. and did you see what he was using ? That little bottle the size of a soda can , diving into the unknown with something that probably give you less than 10 min oxygen depending how deep your breaths are is insane.
@ray vang yea that "little bottle" is called a pony bottle which is designed as a small backup I wouldn't use it on a extended dive but it'll give you enough air for what he seemed to do. Either way you were going on about different gad mixtures and "weird shit" happening I'm guessing you were talking about nitrox and trimix which trimix you only use on technical dives going past 130 ft and nitrix I guess he could have used since it was a shallow dive, as for the "weird shit" I'm guessing you are talking about nitrogen narcosis which wouldn't have happened here since you need to be breathing normal air at depths past 130 ft.....you clearly don't know what you're talking about and you even say so in your OP yet you want to try and argue lol
@@reivang7196 bro you gonna let him talk to like that. That’s crazy bro he disrespected you you better say something about his mom. 👀
@@thedoge9590 Did I get you upset awww 😢! It’s ok don’t go shooting up schools!
As a 17 year commercial diver, I would tell you that entering that pipe with that shitty gear and your obvious lack of training is a stupid and unnecessarily dangerous thing to do.
@@gavinfranklin8068, not out of high school? Your not very bright are you? You can't even spell. Do you even know what a commercial diver is? I spent 17 years diving in the marine and industrial sectors. Many of those dives were into confined spaces. So I do know that I'm talking about. There were no safety protocols in place and their gear was a novelty at best.
@@gavinfranklin8068 he said 17 years diving, he didnt say he was 17 years old numb nuts
@@gavinfranklin8068 dummy
Why do you instantly believe he's telling the truth?
@@Choosafunga777, do you think I'm lying? I spent 17 years commercial diving in the Mid Atlantic region and 2 plus months in Nova Scotia. I've done salvage, construction, vessel repairs, and submerged pipeline and tank diving. It takes specialized training, equipment, and a lot of experience to do confined entry dives. None of that was demonstrated in this video. It was reckless behavior that could have put the one in the pipe in serious danger regardless of the depth. If he had gotten stuck that air supply would not have lasted more than a couple minutes at best. Doing shit like this also puts rescue personnel at risk if they are needed.
I'm glad you made it out I think you're breaking the line between brave and crazy, I been there , live and learn
Can't help but think that the vibration and subsequent water release further back in the mine was do to disturbing air pockets within that piece of machinery and piping. I understand the thrill of this but man, be careful. 🙏🏻
I just wanna know who tagged that pipe before those mines flooded. Seems like this place has been explored before, be interesting to see how it looked before the water
My thoughts exactly! If you find out please do reply.
It was Chad
Why don't his friends tell him that diving in unknown abandoned mine tubes with 2 minutes of air is a bad, bad idea? Why don't they care enough for him?
Ahh the machines underwater creep me out! SO MUCH
the guy doing all the filming is smart, he knows the cameraman never dies and hes a fan of doing dangerous stuff.
This is the second dangerous thing I have seen y'all do in a couple of months. The other was going into a dangerous cave alone.
These videos is one of my new addictions of life.
Have you ever noticed when people like these guys say the word awesome it doesn't sound like cool it sounds like a wonder of awe
Anyone know the name of the flooded ladder thing? And why is there a pipe going down with the ladder? What was it's use anyways anyone knows?
Straight mad lads 😂👌 I got nervous just watching this. I cant even imagine going down there
The pipes give me dwemer ruin vibes from skyrim. Careful you might end up in blackreach in that hole
Still water💀
I agree with the title of this video. Even that brief excursion could have ended very badly.
Hhmm I wonder what could've cause this cave to start shaking violently.🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I’m jealous! Awesome adventure dudes 🤙. You guys need to drop the camera down that shaft with a nice light set up.....it probably goes to a whole different level! Deploy the mini sub 😂
Any explanation for the shaking and the moving pipe? There was also a sound that sounded like water off to the right. Did you see anything? I'm guessing something collapsed down there. The sound too the right is odd though because we didn't see any bubbles at the ladder. Perhaps further off out of frame?
It’s called “well shock”
Basically disturbed motion of the water and it’s displacement reaches the bottom or sides and “reflects” or bounces back, and in this case it interferes with the apparatus.
No. It's something much more sinister.
@@fredsilvers1427 no bro there could be some reasons....
This com.ent section gave me faith in humanity. Constructive stern polite criticism and OP responded and liked some...easy sub🥰💯💯 Also looked fun af as a Blk person I just can't but it looked dope af
Sounded like a massive release of air after that pipe moved.
I'm 3 mins in and panicking that the machines switch on and the water starts dragging them down. 🤦🏾♀️🥺😱
I’m sure it is extremely cold down there. Whenever one of them sighed, it created a big cloud of air. It takes real balls to do something like this
Will be the year medium temperature of the area they are in.
@kcarch25unkown27 I must add, I might actually be wrong in that.
Caves usually are, but since it's water it could be flowing in colder (or warmer) from somewhere. Although I guess it's ground water, which should also be the median temperature.
If it hasn't been beat to death already, the risk of embolism by skip-breathing and breath holding on a spare air in shallow water is significant, even likely. Please- never hold your breath when breathing compressed gases under water. That being said, what a great place to dive and explore!
Soon to be featured on “Cave body recovery in 4K”
Keep it up and you might just win a Darwin Award for your troubles!
Ed coming to get them out, Dive talk going ro talk about the mistakes, MR B allen going to do a video about it all.
Every explorer and inventor in history could have won a Darwin award
@@biggibbs4678 but even they maintained a certain level of safety. The rules of safety were created because people weren't safe and died for their actions. It's always best when exploring to err on the side of safety. These guys are not trained professionals, so they are not explorers or inventors accepting a specific risk.
Bro nearly got abducted by the angry pipe monster.
Yeah having covered and read about more than a handful of diving deaths, you wouldnt catch me dead doing something this silly. A caves a grave but an under water tube with a rusty ladder and only so much oxygen? Thats asking for serious trouble.
I wish I had cool friends like this...
Glad I found your adventures. I've always wanted to do these things but never found people that were into it. Good luck to all exploring the depths and most important be safe!
Well you need to be certified for cave diving for such things, i would not recommend doing so, diving in cave without proper training increases risk of fatal accident, there was plenty accidents over the years, it might look safe and everything but its actually not.
@@Krahamus I am quite aware that you need to be certified and experienced to do these things. And I realize it's not safe, so I'm perfectly fine watching others that are experienced on their adventures.
There are probably groups of people doing this somewhat close to you. Urban exploration groups and the likes. Facebook may be a place to find them.
At 16:10 you see a bunch of rocks in the tube against the pipe. When he stepped on it, it mustve dislodged those rocks and the vibration was them falling/settling and the pipe being knocked free.
You guys have to go back and put a go pro with a super flash light on it and see what’s down there! You can’t leave us hanging with just seeing a big opening
the submechanophobia is real w this one!! lol
Am i the only one who finds this kinda scary?
Looks like a liminal space.
How did those big machines even get in there in the first place?
Flooded mine, I think
Ants....
@@letsbehonest4221 🤣🤣
What are those sunken machines? Which area is that?
Is this still water??⁉️
those who know💀
@@Flamma-_ + balkan rage + noradrenaline
@@zork2179 ong bro
There’s a creature living down there that doesn’t want to be disturbed
Cant tell if you guys dont know how dangerous this really is or if you suffer from a complete lack of self preservation.
@Dan Trebune
No shit. Especially narcissists that put titles in their usernames, fucking pathetic.
OMGOODNESS I am NERVOUS a and So Anxious watching, I don’t understand why people LOVE this 😳😳😳🤣🤣
You guys are taking mine exploring to a whole new level! ⛏ 🔦 🤿
A stupid level. These places are extremely dangerous for reasons that aren't clearly seen. Like the water pressure level causing the ladder vibrations to shake violently.
A level of stupidity
That's Darwin Award Level
That rumble scared the crap outta me. I can imagine how u 2 felt.
Do you mind me asking, what’s the weirdest thing you have ever found in a cave or a GoPro drop
What is that stuff? Like the machines and stuff?
I noticed he stepped on the pipe when he got out of the tube. The pipe extends down, so I’m assuming when he stepped on it the pipe it pushed down a little and unwedged something pinned against it farther down.
Where is this filmed?
That’s awesome and terrifying all in one. Thanks for the content
You gonna explore or play in the water?
And is that still water 😓.
Its like the start of a horror movie.
I’ve always wanted to see down there lol I’ve seen people put GoPros and stuff down a line. Way too dangerous for a person though. Think you might of moved a rock loose from the metal hitting the pipe which hit the rocks.
Every hole is a goal. You guys always amaze me
Ah, I see what happened - you stepped on the pipe lol, the vibrations were caused by the pipe rubbing against the metal sidewalls of the shaft, which reverberated through the platform and silted up the interior. I'm not sure what the specific physics were behind the pipe readjustment but it's extremely intuitive if you've encountered a similar phenomenon before. The pipe was probably running perpendicular to the floor when the place flooded, and the most natural place for it to settle as the place floods would be up against the side of the frame - this is stable but only so long as no force is applied across the pipe's length.... which is what you did when you stepped on it lol. A very small amount of compression would be enough to get the pipe to bow slightly, with the degree of deflection being larger the longer that pipe is (and I expect it's pretty damn long like 3 stories at least) at which point the pipe wants to move.... but the top part resting against the sidewalls served as a pivot point, it was only likely to move along that axis - and it did, ever so slightly, which angled the top part of the pipe closer to horizontal, until the force of friction between the siding and the pipe was no longer enough to stop it from releasing, and it did like a bow running across a string.... or a pvc pipe across metal siding 😆
Hanging with you guys looks like a fun time.
Sweet home sweet! Title had me crunching down comments to prep myself for worst case scenario but in all, great video, crew!
That tremble pipe was in fact eery by all means!
Safe & sound, glad all went smooth🤜🏻🤛🏻
That ladder down underwater is a deathtrap.
Just to let everyone know, doing things like this is perfectly safe for everyone of all ages. Bring your kids and your grandparents. Using rocks as diving weights is a great way to save money on pointless gear. Everyone get out there and explore this summer. I'll see you down there!
6:06 what is he collecting the disscarded rock after breaking the ore out of it? Castings..?
Awesome kayaking in the cave, Love it, the cave looks so cool.. And yeah something about being underwater is relaxing and calm...
Likely a monster that shook the entire ladder
I mean, what probably caused it is arguably more scary than a monster
This is awesomely creepy. 👌
So, how did you guys get to Agartha??
P.S.
15:51
Did someone actually wrote "Chad" there?? 🤣
that blocked clogged debris that he looked at before he rose back up the ladder well. must have broke free as he was coming out he brought that water with them this place the weight onto the deck and as he was climbing now he might have used something for leverage and vibrated that pipe and all that clogged blockage pile up Broke Free and fell down the only way to know for sure is would be to dive back down and look.probably wouldn't risk it though cool video
Your channel is the best. You all are nuts. But you guys are the nutsiest. thanks for the awesome posts. Stay safe my crazy friends...
I thought it was too big and unnaturally squared to be a natural cave, turns out it was a mine they show that giant pipe pillar
What’s the beeping thing you guys used for
That was an awesome explore! Little sketchy in the tube. Looked like there may of been something down there that the go pro could of seen sending it down by itself. Excellent Adventure 👍
may HAVE, could HAVE!! Of is not a f*cking verb!
You can't spell either
They have sent a gopro down there! check out the video: th-cam.com/video/cbosUMACrUI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Gustavo!
@@Renard380 agreed, but relax friend..He did use correct spelling and punctuation unlike yourself. (I am no better)
If David utilized speech-to-text to post his comment, it IS possible he MAY have said "could've" slow enough for the phone to pick up "could of".
Are you guys certified scuba divers!?