Want more of “The Tim Ferriss Experiment”? Here are all 13 episodes: I Learned To Play The Drums In 5 Days With No Experience: th-cam.com/video/FBjWEwkl_s0/w-d-xo.html I Helped A Stranger Start Her Dream Business In 1 Week: th-cam.com/video/nZJf_b2bL8Y/w-d-xo.html I Hired A Pickup Artist To Help Me Find A Girlfriend: th-cam.com/video/3zPa7b1uq4A/w-d-xo.html Can I Beat A BJJ World Champion With 5 Days Of Training?: th-cam.com/video/O5bRipHckSQ/w-d-xo.html I Learned Filipino In 4 Days: th-cam.com/video/QkTmAyO_qfE/w-d-xo.html Can I Beat A Pro Poker Player With 4 Days Of Training?: th-cam.com/video/Z_uUkjQKamI/w-d-xo.html I Trained Like A Pro Golfer For 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/i_nGfMDTaBU/w-d-xo.html I Helped A 28-Year-Old Face Her Fear Of Open Water: th-cam.com/video/05rAfBBiL1w/w-d-xo.html I Learned How To Surf In 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/1_c_FCTX0gk/w-d-xo.html I Learned Rally Racing In 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/XFmrUQsnv78/w-d-xo.html I Learned To Shoot Guns Like John Wick In 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/P6ySb3P64mw/w-d-xo.html Learning Parkour From A Hollywood Stuntman (5-Day Challenge): th-cam.com/video/qSSlZCDQta4/w-d-xo.html I Hired A US Navy Seal Drill Sergeant To Kidnap Me: th-cam.com/video/L9TztcVghdw/w-d-xo.html
my mom took up drumming at the age of 55 (about 10 years ago) and has now progressed to playing with a huge professional jazz band! she had no musical experience. I'm sending this to her. THANK YOU TIM
Any tips from her on how to stay energized or fit for drumming? I watch drummers and I feel like it requires lots of energy and I tend to have low energy for drum playing.
Whoever gave you the idea to release this on TH-cam is a bloody genius. I had no idea this series existed and after watching this I'm an instant fan. Thank you sir 🙏🏼
That's because it's not a regular series 🙂. Search Tim Ferriss Experiment for another user's playlist that contains 14 videos - Emilio Lanza to be precise.
As a drummer who started playing when I was about 10 years old (37 now)...your development in a short time period and willingness to learn and put in the work was incredible. Seeing you and Foreigner having a blast together on stage was AWESOME! Cheers brother. Great message!
"play the song, don't play the drums" is legitimately the best advice you could give a noobie.... don't get overwhelmed by all the countless branches there are to music. just learn the necessary parts for that particular piece and then build from there with other songs
I've been playing guitar in bands for 23 years, have sat behind a drum kit for fun every now and then, but have never learned as much as Tim just showed. Respect. I will take this as an example.
Yeah, I’m a drummer & even though I understand what everything represents when I look at sheet music (for drums), I can’t read music & it would take me well over a week of constant practice to be able to read along while I’m drumming & likely many months before I could be comfortable letting it guide me through a song. It’s definitely not the route I would take if I had to teach someone to play drums in a week.
I read sheet music on other instruments but I just see very little reason to on drums. I've been playing for 25 years and it's honestly never come up for me personally
Utterly amazing. I've been a drummer for about 20+ years, and it was fantastic seeing you go through this experience. Great job spreading positive mental attitude and showing that truly all things are possible.
Cool experiment. I'm sure this will inspire a lot of future drummers. As a fellow drummer, I advise you to take your time, FEEL the groove, and wear ear protection.
Great job Tim! I have been playing drums for 28 years and I still get nerves before performing. Thanks for sharing the scariest part of the journey: your first show.
Amazing Tim!!! You have done three important things up to the detail from your teachers tips and advice. You have played those solid grooves (specially those floor toms, Chris F.), you managed and conquered stage's fear (facing public performance Adam T. ) and also going through mistakes but kept playing (even if you and the band noticed but you were absolutely focused, Steward C.) all those three are the most valuable skills to do, apart of course of spending hours learning, practicing and crafting drumming. No many people who learn drums for years can do all those three together and in one week! A Huge well done! From another drummer
Well done Tim - you can be super proud. That took balls of steel a lot of commitment not to chicken out at the last minute. Solid performance! Looking forward to the next episodes 🎉
Thank you for uploading this Tim! I could not help but smile along with you during the final performance, and it was great to see how welcoming and accommodating the band were after they piled on the pressure when you first met!
Brovo Tim!!! Fantastic job!!! I own a Drum School in a small town in northern California called Beats From The Core, downtown Redding California. No other instruments just Drums. We signed up half the town for drum lessons, and we have people of all ages playing shows jammin gigs and playing with friends. It’s quite a sight to see. Drumming sure does bring people together. Glad you’re part of it.
Wow, that was amazing! I've been playing drums at my church for over 20 years in front of up to 500 people at a time and still get nervous (I don't want to make any mistakes)! You've inspired me to continue working on my ability to relax and have fun with it. Great job!
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Killer show bro-cephus, very inspirational! Right off the bat, you go right to Stewart, thought that was funny. Good job dude, thank you for uploading your series here, you are the man!!
I'm a huge fan. I've bought a lot of stuff including this series when it first came out. BUT, I think I remember hearing you say that you played drum in college in one of your podcast episodes.
Tim, as a pro drummer / educator I applaud you! This was no small feat! I hope you’ve encouraged many people to learn the drums and try something that gets them out of their comfort zone! I need to see the rest of the footage like you said. 👊🏼👏🏼
I remember when this episode first dropped. You couldn't ask for a better mentor than Stewart Copeland. And getting to double drum live with Foreigner is not a bad first gig!
This is exactly what I needed to see today! A month ago, after 20 years of teaching freestyle hand drumming, I started a live drum jazz funk dance party band a month ago. We debut in a month at one of the coolest music venues in Toronto, and you insights are gonna help me optimize my time and energy! It's the perfect balance of useable information and delightful entertainment. Thanks Tim! and please continue drumming!
@@humminahummina Thanks for asking! Will Drum For Dancers (WD4D Collective), our first show is Feb. 7th at Drom in Toronto, Canada. It'll be filmed so there'll be clips!
@@RippleRhythm1 that sounds awesome--I can't help but feel excited for you! If you're at all inclined to consider the words of random nobodies on the internet, then consider this: I can imagine the myriad million things which might cause stress or anxiety as you get ready for and perform your first show with the new band. You gotta shrug all that off. Whatever role you play in the logistics of making that gig happen, fulfill your obligations as best you can, and don't even bother yourself to think about all the rest of the stuff which isn't your responsibility. Let it all go so that you can be in the moment and actually enjoy yourself. I've never been to a live drum jazz funk dance party band performance before, but I think it's a safe bet to say it's a fun time--for the audience, but probably even more so for the performers. Making music with others can be an absolutely magical experience. No single word could hope to describe the way it feels; "magic" might be a good start though. And given the Dr Funkenstein hodgepodge of genres you've patched together and brought to life, I think another safe bet would be to say that _fun_ is an essential component of the music. I'm not wrong on that, right? With all that said (and with your forgiveness of my digression) we come to the one point I'd most like you to consider--the most important thing for you to do at your upcoming show, is _have fun._ No matter what happens, have fun. If something goes wrong - and we're talking about a live gig here, so, some sudden technical issue popping up should probably _expected_ to happen - whatever it is, don't sweat it. If someone forgets their part, or flubs their fill, forget aboubt it. Or better yet, have fun with it--improvise around it, incorporate it into the show. If the audience even notices what happened, seeing that it didn't even break the band's stride will only leave them more impressed. Having fun = #1 ✌😋
@@SineEyed THANK YOU for your wonderful wise words of encouragement! I'm already 100% on board with everything you said. I started too controlling wanting the structure to be too rigid, too safe, but I realized I have to trust the musicians, the audience and the moment to have so much material to play off of, my only job is to be present and ENJOY it. My role as the "frontman", aside from sculpting the improv, is to engage playfully with the audience, block party style, call and response, sing a longs, dance offs, etc. and make the concert a real act of co-creation and community. We've got a videographer coming to shoot the concert, so I'll be sure to leave a link here once it's up and you can how it all shook out! Thanks again! All the beats!
@@RippleRhythm1 awesome--sounds to me like you got this... _in the pocket_ one might even say lol 😜 I'd love to check out the video once it's available, absolutely. So please do drop a link when you can. Be sure to tag me so that I get a notification. And knock 'em dead at the show!.. 🤘😎
Amazing!!! Teary eyed watching your accomplished face at the end of the song. When I first saw Karen Carpenter playing the drums I instantly knew I needed to play them too. Since I was only 16 and ready for college my mom said that I would need to pick a sensible profession… so I became an accountant…. Never ever learned to play the drums… and as a senior now who knows if I ever will…. Thank you Tim for letting me live vicariously through you.
Drummer of maybe 17 years here- it's so interesting to see how your mind approaches with such intentionality the things that I don't ever consider anymore and really gives a lot of credit to the nuance of drumming and how truly complex it can be. You did fantastic and this was really great to watch!
Thanks so much for putting this on TH-cam! I’d purchased this series years ago via iTunes and can’t access them anymore. Please upload the others as well.
Definitely a nerve-racking feeling Tim, but the way you pushed yourself to achieve your goal no matter what, and limited your scope to weed out the fills to focus on your strength is admirable. Thanks for inspiring us!
Hi Tim Thankyou for sharing your drumming experience and more. Reminder of a wee terrifying venture I partook in last summer, with a bunch of fantastic high school football playing girls. Was an amazing experience and adrenalin filled rush pre and post event. Here's to more of the same and different in 2024. Truly grateful for your wisdom here, over passing few years. 😀 💜
Bless you for releasing this Tim!!! There are so many pieces of gold in these episodes. I hope you receive triple the value you've brought to the world!
My Uncle Phil gave me his drum kit when I ten years old. It changed my life. I’ve since played in many bands and taught many people how to also play. As someone that’s followed you since you brought out the four hour work week this was especially resonant (pun intended!) and enjoyable. It shows not only what can be achieved with dedication, a clear progress structure and good tuition but also confirms the necessity of the 10,000 hours rule! Looking forward to the rest in the series! 🤘🏼👍🏼✊🏼
Tim, you are so freak-in lucky!!!! Stewart Copeland whose drumming I adore and admire so much (had a big grin on my face whenever he was in this video with you). Foreigner, a band that was one of my favorites growing up. I took up drums a few years ago (School of Rock baby) in my late 60's never played a musical instrument in my life (drums always a dream). Now just recently started a band just for fun to learn songs and hopefully not be embarrassed and play at a local venue, learn some more songs and do it again. But you got to do it for a week on the biggest scale ever (I'm so jealous!). I am sure it will be one of the best experiences you will have had. I am glad the TH-cam algorithm lead me to your video. I am a fan and look forward to seeing what else you get to do that is on my bucket list!
Tim’s got rhythm! Tips for anyone learning a musical instrument: 1) reading music is not necessary, in fact learning by ear is faster and ultimately result in you being more musical. 2) most of us don’t have time to practice so intensely. Check out the book atomic habits and apply the 1% rule to you music practice. 3) thinking about rhythm is counterproductive - try dancing and feeling it, then what you play is an extension of your internal pulse. @tim, if you ever want to learn guitar we’ve got you. 🤘
Tim, that was BADASS! I'm your age and always loved the drums starting as a little kid. Till this day, I still loves drums but never learned. Great video for inspiration. Thks for sharing.
You did an incredible job, explaining the initial confusion and doubt, and then growing confidence… And then the fear and confidence starting to crumble for that first gig. I am a drummer and went through all of the exact same emotions. When I had my first live gig at school, everything I had learned started to become a mishmash once I was about to go on stage. Like everything I learned had been picked up into a tornado and was spinning around me; I could see some of the things I needed to do, but they were still whipping around me. And during the actual performance, it took me a second to settle into just the basic rhythm, but my mind couldn’t help looking ahead to the little bit of flare, and fill that I would have to do in between, and it was almost like bracing for a car crash as the moment came to perform the fill. As loose as I was getting performing the basic rhythm, I would definitely tense and clench up. And while my mind could start to go in a little bit of an auto pilot mode for the basic rhythm, everything came into the front of my mind when it was time for the fill, which is almost like data overload, and I would stumble a bit on that fill. But I would return to the regular rhythm and start to feel better again, although I was quite conscious and embarrassed about how I stumbled on the fill which made me more nervous for when I would have to do it again in the song. I would mess up again, but not as much. And it just took more time playing this song alone for it to all become second nature. And it took performing live more often to get less nervous about playing that song in front of people These days, it all really does feel like second nature. In a way it feels like my mind can sit back and enjoy having my body be its own personal drummer. That’s how much it feels like second nature. Like my mind is so relaxed, so “not thinking about it“, it feels so much like my body is doing it automatically that it does feel like I’m just sitting back and enjoying what my arms and feet are doing. And realizing you can get into auto pilot mode, that easy, certainly adds confidence, and dare I say, even a sense of boredness to wear your mind actually gets hungry too do new things, all of a sudden the mind doesn’t want to be on auto pilot all the time, it wants to be challenged. And so I start learning more difficult things to do. More complex rhythms, or something like a blast beat which is just very physically demanding. I’m definitely at a point where a lot of things are on auto pilot, but there is still a level of drumming which is probably always going to be a challenge for me, but my mind enjoys the challenge.
I started to learn drumming at the age of 36 some weeks ago. And after 3 weeks made my first drum cover. So I can confirm that it depends on motivation. Maybe that's what adults lack of, time and motivation. But motivation is more important. Everybody knows that feeling when you have the time, but no motivation. Like I was in the last 2-3 weeks. But we have to gain some motivation from friends, ourself or videos like this. This gave me some extra boost.
insanely insightful about the process of learning new things. some notes which i found most striking (parts in braces are my comments) - relax, get outside of your body (esp the head) - "if you're trying to learn something very very quickly in a compressed time frame you're going to experience extreme frustration, at predictable points, sometimes freaking out" (the key is to cope with it, not let it throw you off) - "learn the song, not the drums" (do the Thing, not learn all about it and then do it. "learning drums" is intractable. figure out the 20%)
I don't really now why but this one really put a big smile on my face. Maybe some kind of nostalgia about young Tim Ferriss (and me being even younger follower of his).
learning how to play a single song on an instrument and learning how to really play an instrument are so monumentally different. Shortcuts are rarely shortcuts and just ways to mask inadequacy.
@@MrVleker my point is that learning songs is not learning an instrument. its just remembering patterns. truly learning an instrument puts you in a flow state that doesn't require strict structure. I could memorize and rewrite a Shakespearean sonnet or try to paint the monalisa. but neither of these is going to teach me how to be a poet or a painter faster than starting at the fundamentals with techniques like how to hold a paintbrush. learning music song by song will only mask foundational inadequacies. you could impress a room of other novices, but the masters can hear everything you are doing wrong. (tim sounds so out of place here) you would be much better off learning the drums with one drum pad, practicing different paradiddles and understanding things like dynamics. and ever so often, try and pick up a song that utilizes the technique at your current skill level. much like how musical instruments have been taught by the masters for centuries. constantly taking shortcuts in life is going to get you no where. Tim Ferris will undoubtable die as a man who as experienced much but has mastered nothing. not to say that hes not an impressive human being. but he seems to spit in the face of those who truly take the time to learn a complex skill like music or business and breaks it down into these shortcuts that in my humble opinion, are horseshit.
I respect your willingness to go against the prevailing sentiment in the comments, but I still disagree… I think as long as you are careful about not developing bad habits (and you don’t get too overconfident just because you can play a few songs well), you can go song by song and pick up the foundations along the way. It’s a lot more fun, which keeps you motivated, and you can fill in technique gaps and improve with experience. All songs are made of the same parts, and the more you expand your repertoire and internalise them through practice the more you recognise the patterns and can start to use them in new songs, or improvisation. Either way, for most people who do not aspire to reach pro levels, it’s better to enjoy the process by getting the payoff of learning songs fast and early. No point to make students focus on drilling technical exercises if they will give up from boredom before they ever learn a single song… my two cents!
@@KevinTPLim I said you learn songs at your skill level along the way. you didn't counter any argument I made and I'm not sure I even understand the point you are attempting to make. (A cringe inducing, pretentious, and convoluted rhetoric) The "Prevailing sentiment" in the Tim Ferris comment section is obviously going to have bias. It would be incredible ignorant to consider the comment section in anyway a reliable source for whatever point you are making. I was shown this video because I am a musician myself, but as for my opinion of Tim Ferris, almost every Stan I've ever met of Tim's is moving through life like a hamster on a wheel. Looking for short cuts and switching whatever "self improvement" hack they "found" month by month, not realizing they are getting nowhere. that's why people who have actually succeeded in developing life skills that obviously take painstaking dedication think he's kind of a dipshit who's convincing himself he's "hacked" skill mastery, when in reality he's nowhere near a master of anything other than drawing a crowd of success deprived men and separating them from their money.
This warms my drummer heart. There's too little drum content around still outside the drumming community. Thanks Tim. Ps. get rid of those gloves!! 😁 Hopefully you all reading these comments read this: YES; you can learn the drums! Compared to other instruments, there really is only a couple things you need to get playing actual music. I am biased, but gotta love the drums!
What a crazy feeling of joyful amazement watching your emotions, struggles, and victory. The positive encouragement from the mentors. What can you do in a week? wow. Looking forward to more. Congrats on your launch!!!
Thanks a lot Tim! When I first read “4 Hour Chef” and Josh Waitzkin’s book I was trying to find all the episodes and only found a few! So glad you released all these!🙌🏾🔥🔥
I was excited to see this on 5 bullet Friday !! Is Tim Ferris a Polymath??? I wanted to add; I never knew I could find friends out in the internet until I started listening to your podcast, you have been a companion on many long road trips, house cleaning days, and long walks. Thank You Tim, all the best to you and yours Regards from Texas, BRAVO
Tim, that was incredibly inspiring. Seeing that joy on your face when you were playing and getting into the song reminded me why I started playing almost thirty years ago. I never played with a famous rock band, but seeing this video reminded me that is not the point at all. I hope you really enjoyed yourself and that you keep playing. Thanks again and all the best on the rest of your experiments.
Wow! So, I just now took up drumming, looking for a hobby as I prepare for retirement. My "introductory" lesson was last Sunday. I went through all of that first experience you so honestly shared! Thank you for the motivation and helping me think of this in a different way. I've been a fan for years, but just now came across this channel. New Subscriber 🙂.
Just amazing Tim, very inspirational. Love the fact that your willing to take the risk with a potential high degree of fail rate. Cant wait for the next episode!
Amazing.. I really applaud your willingness to go way outside your comfort zone as well as your ability to overcome the fear and get a great result. Subscribed!
So cool to see this show up on my feed. Great job in only five days. Hope you decide to stick with it as it's a lifelong passion. Been playing off and on for a couple decades now. Awesome that you got to spend time with Stewart. He's a teachers teacher. The RockBand bit had me cracking up and he was right that the singer and guitarist was gonna mess with ya!
From a former high school drummer, excellent freakin job in such a short window, man! Also, thanks, Tim, for all you do...the first podcast I started listening to regularly, and it's still my fav. You're inspiring, and your spirit and class are entirely contagious.
I've been playing the drums for 23 years as of this week. I've wondered what it would be like to have to learn all over again as it took me so long to get to the level I'm at. As Tim learned with Stewart, learning by playing with other people was always the quickest and best way for me to get better. Just like playing in a basketball game is going to teach you more than just shooting on your own. In that sense, I really don't think knowing how to read music is necessary, though it can be very useful. "Playing the song, not the drums" is truly good advice.
That was a lot of fun to watch! Your smile was electric. Thank you for all that you do and share, encouraging us to be better, kinder humans and demonstrating that dreams are possible with work and great mentors. I bought a steel drum and have no musical talent whatsoever! Now, I believe I can do it. Thank you Tim.
DUUuuuude!!! AMAZING!!!! Well done... Loved it and subscribed. Excited to see what else you produce, Tim. Keep it up! Own all of your books... keep up the great work and the succinct editing is appreciated as well! 🤗
Drums are the most fun instrument I’ve ever learned…and I play a good many. Easy to learn the basics, but takes time to get a good groove and learn the nuances and what fits. Very entertaining to see you step up to the challenge.
Thanks @tim - I haven't seen your show prior, but this was really entertaining and pretty informative on how to learn better. Looking forward to the next episode.
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I Learned To Play The Drums In 5 Days With No Experience: th-cam.com/video/FBjWEwkl_s0/w-d-xo.html
I Helped A Stranger Start Her Dream Business In 1 Week: th-cam.com/video/nZJf_b2bL8Y/w-d-xo.html
I Hired A Pickup Artist To Help Me Find A Girlfriend: th-cam.com/video/3zPa7b1uq4A/w-d-xo.html
Can I Beat A BJJ World Champion With 5 Days Of Training?: th-cam.com/video/O5bRipHckSQ/w-d-xo.html
I Learned Filipino In 4 Days: th-cam.com/video/QkTmAyO_qfE/w-d-xo.html
Can I Beat A Pro Poker Player With 4 Days Of Training?: th-cam.com/video/Z_uUkjQKamI/w-d-xo.html
I Trained Like A Pro Golfer For 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/i_nGfMDTaBU/w-d-xo.html
I Helped A 28-Year-Old Face Her Fear Of Open Water: th-cam.com/video/05rAfBBiL1w/w-d-xo.html
I Learned How To Surf In 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/1_c_FCTX0gk/w-d-xo.html
I Learned Rally Racing In 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/XFmrUQsnv78/w-d-xo.html
I Learned To Shoot Guns Like John Wick In 5 Days: th-cam.com/video/P6ySb3P64mw/w-d-xo.html
Learning Parkour From A Hollywood Stuntman (5-Day Challenge): th-cam.com/video/qSSlZCDQta4/w-d-xo.html
I Hired A US Navy Seal Drill Sergeant To Kidnap Me: th-cam.com/video/L9TztcVghdw/w-d-xo.html
my mom took up drumming at the age of 55 (about 10 years ago) and has now progressed to playing with a huge professional jazz band! she had no musical experience. I'm sending this to her. THANK YOU TIM
WOW DUDE! Very Impressive👍
Could you share some clips of their performance? Thanks
Awesome! ❤❤❤
Any tips from her on how to stay energized or fit for drumming? I watch drummers and I feel like it requires lots of energy and I tend to have low energy for drum playing.
@@denniszenanywherethe secret is to practice for efficient technique. It doesn’t require that much energy if you’re doing it effortlessly.
That’s such a fantastic and wholesome thing to read !!!
How blessed/lucky/take your pick you are to have such an inspirational mom!!
Whoever gave you the idea to release this on TH-cam is a bloody genius. I had no idea this series existed and after watching this I'm an instant fan. Thank you sir 🙏🏼
That's because it's not a regular series 🙂. Search Tim Ferriss Experiment for another user's playlist that contains 14 videos - Emilio Lanza to be precise.
Playing Guitar Hero with Stewart Copeland is a peak moment in life!
As a drummer who started playing when I was about 10 years old (37 now)...your development in a short time period and willingness to learn and put in the work was incredible. Seeing you and Foreigner having a blast together on stage was AWESOME! Cheers brother. Great message!
Man I couldn’t imagine the anxiety you must’ve felt but can see how that motivated you to do something you thought impossible. Good on ya, Tim.
"play the song, don't play the drums" is legitimately the best advice you could give a noobie.... don't get overwhelmed by all the countless branches there are to music. just learn the necessary parts for that particular piece and then build from there with other songs
I've been playing guitar in bands for 23 years, have sat behind a drum kit for fun every now and then, but have never learned as much as Tim just showed. Respect. I will take this as an example.
As a drummer, I loved this - he did it with a smile !
Learning to read score music was a blind initial turn, play with your ear and your heart.
Yeah, I’m a drummer & even though I understand what everything represents when I look at sheet music (for drums), I can’t read music & it would take me well over a week of constant practice to be able to read along while I’m drumming & likely many months before I could be comfortable letting it guide me through a song.
It’s definitely not the route I would take if I had to teach someone to play drums in a week.
I read sheet music on other instruments but I just see very little reason to on drums. I've been playing for 25 years and it's honestly never come up for me personally
Utterly amazing. I've been a drummer for about 20+ years, and it was fantastic seeing you go through this experience. Great job spreading positive mental attitude and showing that truly all things are possible.
Cool experiment. I'm sure this will inspire a lot of future drummers. As a fellow drummer, I advise you to take your time, FEEL the groove, and wear ear protection.
Man I wish I had taken that ear protection advice to heart when I was younger. I am lucky to have the hearing I have.
I can't process how great this was. Going from Zero to Rock Show in 5 days? That's mental... and you crushed it! Truly inspirational.
Been waiting years for this 🤘🏻
10 years!
Great job Tim! I have been playing drums for 28 years and I still get nerves before performing. Thanks for sharing the scariest part of the journey: your first show.
YES YES YES!!! Thank you so much Tim! Hope we can get access to the extended version of these eps as well!!!
Amazing Tim!!! You have done three important things up to the detail from your teachers tips and advice. You have played those solid grooves (specially those floor toms, Chris F.), you managed and conquered stage's fear (facing public performance Adam T. ) and also going through mistakes but kept playing (even if you and the band noticed but you were absolutely focused, Steward C.) all those three are the most valuable skills to do, apart of course of spending hours learning, practicing and crafting drumming. No many people who learn drums for years can do all those three together and in one week! A Huge well done! From another drummer
Mad props to Tim and super stoked seeing ZPZ behind this. So great
Well done Tim - you can be super proud. That took balls of steel a lot of commitment not to chicken out at the last minute. Solid performance! Looking forward to the next episodes 🎉
This is incredible. The other week I was wondering about this TV show and where it'd gone; couldn't find it on the web! Here it comes! Thank you Tim!
Stewart Copeland and Foreigner. Legends. Really enjoyed this.
Thank you for uploading this Tim! I could not help but smile along with you during the final performance, and it was great to see how welcoming and accommodating the band were after they piled on the pressure when you first met!
Tim, you are fearless! Absolutely love this. Talk about putting your ego on the line.
Thank you for making these free! Now the follow up drumming episode…..SLAYER🔥🤘🏼🔥
Stewart Copeland teaching you drums is such a dream ❤
Brovo Tim!!! Fantastic job!!! I own a Drum School in a small town in northern California called Beats From The Core, downtown Redding California. No other instruments just Drums. We signed up half the town for drum lessons, and we have people of all ages playing shows jammin gigs and playing with friends. It’s quite a sight to see. Drumming sure does bring people together. Glad you’re part of it.
Wow, that was amazing! I've been playing drums at my church for over 20 years in front of up to 500 people at a time and still get nervous (I don't want to make any mistakes)! You've inspired me to continue working on my ability to relax and have fun with it. Great job!
This was so fun and I love the level of support Tim got from the band. Good job!
Stewart Copeland is such a delight. He just has so much joy for everything he's doing, what a champ.
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Solid deconstruction of the necessary 20% of skill! Admire your humility, authenticity!
Killer show bro-cephus, very inspirational! Right off the bat, you go right to Stewart, thought that was funny. Good job dude, thank you for uploading your series here, you are the man!!
I wonder... how many subs do you have on this newsletter by now? I remember you promoting it since a decade? Just courisous
I'm a huge fan. I've bought a lot of stuff including this series when it first came out. BUT, I think I remember hearing you say that you played drum in college in one of your podcast episodes.
Great Episode! Looking forward to watching more!
This was great Tim! I’ve been drumming for over 10 years and posted my journey online🤘
Tim, as a pro drummer / educator I applaud you! This was no small feat! I hope you’ve encouraged many people to learn the drums and try something that gets them out of their comfort zone! I need to see the rest of the footage like you said. 👊🏼👏🏼
Dude I loved this! Wish Tim did more stuff like this, it's so refreshing seeing him go through pressure. Super fun watch Timbo
I remember when this episode first dropped. You couldn't ask for a better mentor than Stewart Copeland. And getting to double drum live with Foreigner is not a bad first gig!
Thank you for posting these and sharing them with all of us!
This is exactly what I needed to see today! A month ago, after 20 years of teaching freestyle hand drumming, I started a live drum jazz funk dance party band a month ago. We debut in a month at one of the coolest music venues in Toronto, and you insights are gonna help me optimize my time and energy! It's the perfect balance of useable information and delightful entertainment. Thanks Tim! and please continue drumming!
Drum jazz funk dance party band?!? Name please!!!!!
@@humminahummina Thanks for asking! Will Drum For Dancers (WD4D Collective), our first show is Feb. 7th at Drom in Toronto, Canada. It'll be filmed so there'll be clips!
@@RippleRhythm1 that sounds awesome--I can't help but feel excited for you! If you're at all inclined to consider the words of random nobodies on the internet, then consider this:
I can imagine the myriad million things which might cause stress or anxiety as you get ready for and perform your first show with the new band. You gotta shrug all that off. Whatever role you play in the logistics of making that gig happen, fulfill your obligations as best you can, and don't even bother yourself to think about all the rest of the stuff which isn't your responsibility. Let it all go so that you can be in the moment and actually enjoy yourself. I've never been to a live drum jazz funk dance party band performance before, but I think it's a safe bet to say it's a fun time--for the audience, but probably even more so for the performers. Making music with others can be an absolutely magical experience. No single word could hope to describe the way it feels; "magic" might be a good start though. And given the Dr Funkenstein hodgepodge of genres you've patched together and brought to life, I think another safe bet would be to say that _fun_ is an essential component of the music. I'm not wrong on that, right?
With all that said (and with your forgiveness of my digression) we come to the one point I'd most like you to consider--the most important thing for you to do at your upcoming show, is _have fun._ No matter what happens, have fun. If something goes wrong - and we're talking about a live gig here, so, some sudden technical issue popping up should probably _expected_ to happen - whatever it is, don't sweat it. If someone forgets their part, or flubs their fill, forget aboubt it. Or better yet, have fun with it--improvise around it, incorporate it into the show. If the audience even notices what happened, seeing that it didn't even break the band's stride will only leave them more impressed.
Having fun = #1
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@@SineEyed THANK YOU for your wonderful wise words of encouragement! I'm already 100% on board with everything you said. I started too controlling wanting the structure to be too rigid, too safe, but I realized I have to trust the musicians, the audience and the moment to have so much material to play off of, my only job is to be present and ENJOY it. My role as the "frontman", aside from sculpting the improv, is to engage playfully with the audience, block party style, call and response, sing a longs, dance offs, etc. and make the concert a real act of co-creation and community. We've got a videographer coming to shoot the concert, so I'll be sure to leave a link here once it's up and you can how it all shook out! Thanks again! All the beats!
@@RippleRhythm1 awesome--sounds to me like you got this... _in the pocket_ one might even say lol 😜
I'd love to check out the video once it's available, absolutely. So please do drop a link when you can. Be sure to tag me so that I get a notification.
And knock 'em dead at the show!.. 🤘😎
Amazing!!!
Teary eyed watching your accomplished face at the end of the song.
When I first saw Karen Carpenter playing the drums I instantly knew I needed to play them too. Since I was only 16 and ready for college my mom said that I would need to pick a sensible profession… so I became an accountant…. Never ever learned to play the drums… and as a senior now who knows if I ever will….
Thank you Tim for letting me live vicariously through you.
Drummer of maybe 17 years here- it's so interesting to see how your mind approaches with such intentionality the things that I don't ever consider anymore and really gives a lot of credit to the nuance of drumming and how truly complex it can be. You did fantastic and this was really great to watch!
Thanks so much for putting this on TH-cam! I’d purchased this series years ago via iTunes and can’t access them anymore. Please upload the others as well.
YES!!! I've been wanting to watch them for such a long time!!!
Definitely a nerve-racking feeling Tim, but the way you pushed yourself to achieve your goal no matter what, and limited your scope to weed out the fills to focus on your strength is admirable. Thanks for inspiring us!
Been drumming since I was 5 years old and haven’t stopped since! 🥁
So amazing! The walls in your brain that you continually plow through to overcome, learn, and reach your potential is inspiring! Thank you!
Hi Tim
Thankyou for sharing your drumming experience and more.
Reminder of a wee terrifying venture I partook in last summer, with a bunch of fantastic high school football playing girls.
Was an amazing experience and adrenalin filled rush pre and post event.
Here's to more of the same and different in 2024.
Truly grateful for your wisdom here, over passing few years.
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Bless you for releasing this Tim!!! There are so many pieces of gold in these episodes. I hope you receive triple the value you've brought to the world!
This is what I loved about Tim 18 years ago. I need more of this.
My Uncle Phil gave me his drum kit when I ten years old. It changed my life. I’ve since played in many bands and taught many people how to also play. As someone that’s followed you since you brought out the four hour work week this was especially resonant (pun intended!) and enjoyable. It shows not only what can be achieved with dedication, a clear progress structure and good tuition but also confirms the necessity of the 10,000 hours rule! Looking forward to the rest in the series! 🤘🏼👍🏼✊🏼
Tim, you are so freak-in lucky!!!! Stewart Copeland whose drumming I adore and admire so much (had a big grin on my face whenever he was in this video with you). Foreigner, a band that was one of my favorites growing up. I took up drums a few years ago (School of Rock baby) in my late 60's never played a musical instrument in my life (drums always a dream). Now just recently started a band just for fun to learn songs and hopefully not be embarrassed and play at a local venue, learn some more songs and do it again. But you got to do it for a week on the biggest scale ever (I'm so jealous!). I am sure it will be one of the best experiences you will have had. I am glad the TH-cam algorithm lead me to your video. I am a fan and look forward to seeing what else you get to do that is on my bucket list!
Very exciting you’re releasing these!
Stewart has one of best drum kits out there, that Tama kits is incredible, and here he has pinstripes with gaffers tape on them, gotta love him.
What an incredible production!
The legend of Tim Ferris keeps getting more epic!
Tim’s got rhythm! Tips for anyone learning a musical instrument:
1) reading music is not necessary, in fact learning by ear is faster and ultimately result in you being more musical.
2) most of us don’t have time to practice so intensely. Check out the book atomic habits and apply the 1% rule to you music practice.
3) thinking about rhythm is counterproductive - try dancing and feeling it, then what you play is an extension of your internal pulse.
@tim, if you ever want to learn guitar we’ve got you. 🤘
Tim, I was skeptical that this would be a worthwhile experiment, but I love it. Not just interesting, but so well executed.
Fun to have these available. Look forward to seeing any I missed!
Tim, that was BADASS! I'm your age and always loved the drums starting as a little kid. Till this day, I still loves drums but never learned. Great video for inspiration. Thks for sharing.
You did an incredible job, explaining the initial confusion and doubt, and then growing confidence… And then the fear and confidence starting to crumble for that first gig. I am a drummer and went through all of the exact same emotions. When I had my first live gig at school, everything I had learned started to become a mishmash once I was about to go on stage. Like everything I learned had been picked up into a tornado and was spinning around me; I could see some of the things I needed to do, but they were still whipping around me.
And during the actual performance, it took me a second to settle into just the basic rhythm, but my mind couldn’t help looking ahead to the little bit of flare, and fill that I would have to do in between, and it was almost like bracing for a car crash as the moment came to perform the fill. As loose as I was getting performing the basic rhythm, I would definitely tense and clench up. And while my mind could start to go in a little bit of an auto pilot mode for the basic rhythm, everything came into the front of my mind when it was time for the fill, which is almost like data overload, and I would stumble a bit on that fill.
But I would return to the regular rhythm and start to feel better again, although I was quite conscious and embarrassed about how I stumbled on the fill which made me more nervous for when I would have to do it again in the song. I would mess up again, but not as much. And it just took more time playing this song alone for it to all become second nature. And it took performing live more often to get less nervous about playing that song in front of people
These days, it all really does feel like second nature. In a way it feels like my mind can sit back and enjoy having my body be its own personal drummer. That’s how much it feels like second nature. Like my mind is so relaxed, so “not thinking about it“, it feels so much like my body is doing it automatically that it does feel like I’m just sitting back and enjoying what my arms and feet are doing.
And realizing you can get into auto pilot mode, that easy, certainly adds confidence, and dare I say, even a sense of boredness to wear your mind actually gets hungry too do new things, all of a sudden the mind doesn’t want to be on auto pilot all the time, it wants to be challenged. And so I start learning more difficult things to do. More complex rhythms, or something like a blast beat which is just very physically demanding.
I’m definitely at a point where a lot of things are on auto pilot, but there is still a level of drumming which is probably always going to be a challenge for me, but my mind enjoys the challenge.
I’m so excited for this! I loved making music as a teenager, I love how Tim deconstructs things. So excited to see both together!
Can’t think of a better way to get excited about continuing the drumming journey. Hope he keeps it up!
Thank you Tim! I love the podcast and emails and stoked this is once again available!
This is so great that this material is on TH-cam!
So awesome to have Stewart Copeland to help out
I started to learn drumming at the age of 36 some weeks ago. And after 3 weeks made my first drum cover. So I can confirm that it depends on motivation. Maybe that's what adults lack of, time and motivation. But motivation is more important. Everybody knows that feeling when you have the time, but no motivation. Like I was in the last 2-3 weeks. But we have to gain some motivation from friends, ourself or videos like this. This gave me some extra boost.
insanely insightful about the process of learning new things. some notes which i found most striking (parts in braces are my comments)
- relax, get outside of your body (esp the head)
- "if you're trying to learn something very very quickly in a compressed time frame you're going to experience extreme frustration, at predictable points, sometimes freaking out" (the key is to cope with it, not let it throw you off)
- "learn the song, not the drums" (do the Thing, not learn all about it and then do it. "learning drums" is intractable. figure out the 20%)
Awesome! Thanks for bringing this to all of us on YT.
I don't really now why but this one really put a big smile on my face. Maybe some kind of nostalgia about young Tim Ferriss (and me being even younger follower of his).
learning how to play a single song on an instrument and learning how to really play an instrument are so monumentally different. Shortcuts are rarely shortcuts and just ways to mask inadequacy.
That is true, but this is rather impressive still. From here its easier to learn the next song, and the next song etc.
@@MrVleker my point is that learning songs is not learning an instrument. its just remembering patterns. truly learning an instrument puts you in a flow state that doesn't require strict structure.
I could memorize and rewrite a Shakespearean sonnet or try to paint the monalisa. but neither of these is going to teach me how to be a poet or a painter faster than starting at the fundamentals with techniques like how to hold a paintbrush.
learning music song by song will only mask foundational inadequacies. you could impress a room of other novices, but the masters can hear everything you are doing wrong. (tim sounds so out of place here)
you would be much better off learning the drums with one drum pad, practicing different paradiddles and understanding things like dynamics. and ever so often, try and pick up a song that utilizes the technique at your current skill level.
much like how musical instruments have been taught by the masters for centuries.
constantly taking shortcuts in life is going to get you no where. Tim Ferris will undoubtable die as a man who as experienced much but has mastered nothing.
not to say that hes not an impressive human being.
but he seems to spit in the face of those who truly take the time to learn a complex skill like music or business and breaks it down into these shortcuts that in my humble opinion, are horseshit.
Finally someone said it! Thank you!!
I respect your willingness to go against the prevailing sentiment in the comments, but I still disagree… I think as long as you are careful about not developing bad habits (and you don’t get too overconfident just because you can play a few songs well), you can go song by song and pick up the foundations along the way. It’s a lot more fun, which keeps you motivated, and you can fill in technique gaps and improve with experience. All songs are made of the same parts, and the more you expand your repertoire and internalise them through practice the more you recognise the patterns and can start to use them in new songs, or improvisation. Either way, for most people who do not aspire to reach pro levels, it’s better to enjoy the process by getting the payoff of learning songs fast and early. No point to make students focus on drilling technical exercises if they will give up from boredom before they ever learn a single song… my two cents!
@@KevinTPLim I said you learn songs at your skill level along the way. you didn't counter any argument I made and I'm not sure I even understand the point you are attempting to make. (A cringe inducing, pretentious, and convoluted rhetoric)
The "Prevailing sentiment" in the Tim Ferris comment section is obviously going to have bias. It would be incredible ignorant to consider the comment section in anyway a reliable source for whatever point you are making.
I was shown this video because I am a musician myself, but as for my opinion of Tim Ferris, almost every Stan I've ever met of Tim's is moving through life like a hamster on a wheel. Looking for short cuts and switching whatever "self improvement" hack they "found" month by month, not realizing they are getting nowhere.
that's why people who have actually succeeded in developing life skills that obviously take painstaking dedication think he's kind of a dipshit who's convincing himself he's "hacked" skill mastery, when in reality he's nowhere near a master of anything other than drawing a crowd of success deprived men and separating them from their money.
I learned drums on one of Copelands Tama kits. So lucky to have that opportunity. Hes a legend. Well done Tim
This warms my drummer heart. There's too little drum content around still outside the drumming community. Thanks Tim. Ps. get rid of those gloves!! 😁 Hopefully you all reading these comments read this: YES; you can learn the drums! Compared to other instruments, there really is only a couple things you need to get playing actual music. I am biased, but gotta love the drums!
So glad you are sharing with us Tim! Love these shows can wait to watch them all over again! Such an inspiration!
What a crazy feeling of joyful amazement watching your emotions, struggles, and victory. The positive encouragement from the mentors. What can you do in a week? wow. Looking forward to more. Congrats on your launch!!!
Thanks a lot Tim! When I first read “4 Hour Chef” and Josh Waitzkin’s book I was trying to find all the episodes and only found a few! So glad you released all these!🙌🏾🔥🔥
A great video. I’m a surgical trainee having a tough time on my current rotation, and this has just been the perfect pep talk
OMG, that was amazing Tim! Loved when the lead singer stood on your drums and you didn't even flinch. Bravo!
I was excited to see this on 5 bullet Friday !! Is Tim Ferris a Polymath???
I wanted to add;
I never knew I could find friends out in the internet until I started listening to your podcast, you have been a companion on many long road trips, house cleaning days, and long walks. Thank You Tim, all the best to you and yours
Regards from Texas,
BRAVO
Tim, that was incredibly inspiring. Seeing that joy on your face when you were playing and getting into the song reminded me why I started playing almost thirty years ago. I never played with a famous rock band, but seeing this video reminded me that is not the point at all. I hope you really enjoyed yourself and that you keep playing. Thanks again and all the best on the rest of your experiments.
This is gold! Thank you so muh Tim, your content is so interesting... Makes me really think and analyze my actions.
Wow! So, I just now took up drumming, looking for a hobby as I prepare for retirement. My "introductory" lesson was last Sunday. I went through all of that first experience you so honestly shared! Thank you for the motivation and helping me think of this in a different way. I've been a fan for years, but just now came across this channel. New Subscriber 🙂.
Just amazing Tim, very inspirational. Love the fact that your willing to take the risk with a potential high degree of fail rate. Cant wait for the next episode!
Awesome concept, awesome execution. Brilliant!
Amaaaazing vid!...Stewart Copeland is the uncle you've always dreamed of having Vibes ON!!!
Amazing.. I really applaud your willingness to go way outside your comfort zone as well as your ability to overcome the fear and get a great result. Subscribed!
So cool to see this show up on my feed. Great job in only five days. Hope you decide to stick with it as it's a lifelong passion. Been playing off and on for a couple decades now. Awesome that you got to spend time with Stewart. He's a teachers teacher. The RockBand bit had me cracking up and he was right that the singer and guitarist was gonna mess with ya!
From a former high school drummer, excellent freakin job in such a short window, man! Also, thanks, Tim, for all you do...the first podcast I started listening to regularly, and it's still my fav. You're inspiring, and your spirit and class are entirely contagious.
I've been playing the drums for 23 years as of this week. I've wondered what it would be like to have to learn all over again as it took me so long to get to the level I'm at. As Tim learned with Stewart, learning by playing with other people was always the quickest and best way for me to get better. Just like playing in a basketball game is going to teach you more than just shooting on your own. In that sense, I really don't think knowing how to read music is necessary, though it can be very useful. "Playing the song, not the drums" is truly good advice.
As a drummer for many years, I applaud your bravery. Welcome to the family bro!
this is amazing, tons of admiration Tim
I love how Stewart gave him some gloves to play with.
An absolutely brilliant performance!! Must have been such an exhilarating experience, well done Tim.👏
This was so FUN and inspiring to watch! Thanks Tim! Love from Portugal
That was a lot of fun to watch! Your smile was electric. Thank you for all that you do and share, encouraging us to be better, kinder humans and demonstrating that dreams are possible with work and great mentors. I bought a steel drum and have no musical talent whatsoever! Now, I believe I can do it. Thank you Tim.
DUUuuuude!!! AMAZING!!!! Well done... Loved it and subscribed. Excited to see what else you produce, Tim. Keep it up! Own all of your books... keep up the great work and the succinct editing is appreciated as well! 🤗
Thanks for posting. Great, love legendary Stewart Copeland, Foreigner (sounding amazing) and School of Rock. Keep on rockin', Tim.
This was awesome!!! Getting jacked up to play a few songs at a club tomorrow night thx to Tim!
Drums are the most fun instrument I’ve ever learned…and I play a good many. Easy to learn the basics, but takes time to get a good groove and learn the nuances and what fits. Very entertaining to see you step up to the challenge.
Thanks @tim - I haven't seen your show prior, but this was really entertaining and pretty informative on how to learn better. Looking forward to the next episode.
Dude you're a natural! Coming from a drummer with 25 years experience. Great video!
This was fantastic. I just started learning drums and you have motivated me even more. Thank you!
Beautifully done!!! 💌Congrats Tim!!! You are amazing!👏
Fastest I've ever seen someone pickup a basic beat on the kit. You have some natural ability
Wow that was great Tim, reminding me to face my fears and step into possibilities. You're the best.