yes you can. computers have been smarter than me my whole life.. pretty sure I still have control over it. goes to show, you don't actually understand what AI is. its a maths program. like a calculator. just because your calculator is smarter than you. doesn't mean its going to kill you. we already used calculators and computers to build the biggest Necluear weapons known to mankind.. that ship has already sailed.
The fact that AI is actually a topic of discussion only for a little part of humanity shows that we are already doomed, we are way more stupid than AI can imagine.
⚠⚠⚠ IMPORTANT ⚠⚠⚠ Why have captions for this extremely important interview for humanity not been translated yet to many more languages? "you can submit your own translations as community-contributed captions for TH-cam videos, even if it's not your video. However, the channel owner needs to have community contributions enabled for their videos" I could translate german & polish, I am a translator. Could you please make this available? We need to spread this information as wide as possible. Language cannot be a barrier to informing all of humanities politicians about this and making them understand this.
Yea, he's only one guy and doesn't have an answer right away. But as he said, we should focus on coming up with an answer. That's how these things work, it's a team effort not some god-like genius dishing out commands
I see what you’re saying. It’s very similar to humans being fascinated with life elsewhere in the universe until you meet them and realize they are millions of years ahead of you in tech and could whips up out easily! We’ve literally just hit the Goldilocks zone in AI and are also realizing how crazy quick it’s advancing. That alone makes it scary. We are talking months and it advances so far. I don’t think people anticipated that.
They talk out both sides of their mouths. The strider the fence. They know the potential problems when they created it but they did not care. They just trying to look good now.
Technology isn't the problem. The problem are conservatives that use those technologies to extend their power by manipulating and profiting off of other people.
@@malinkajamiss I know.. it's so disgusting to see how people are towards each other and how we believe in everything the Internet says is true. ... heartbreaking
@@malinkajamiss I know.. it's so disgusting to see how people are towards each other and how we believe in everything the Internet says is true. ... heartbreaking
The biggest problem is that nobody wants to shut down the internet even for 5 minutes..kinda stupid but 1994 isn’t that long ago and the world survived just fine
This so-called godfather is delusional. It’s just like ppl running around saying UFOs exist without any proof. There’s no proof on any of this crap he’s saying about AI.
I work in Cyber Security and I can say as well that the rate of progress is scary. It can be used for all sorts of things by hackers and other groups and this is only the beginning.
As an server admin i can tell you if someone at some point trains an AI model and feeds it with all exploits to this date and on top of it the AI model has access to all open source projects worldwide that are widely used like Wordpress and so on, if it can write exploits on bugs it finds in its source that people didn't exploit to this date, i can't really imagine a safe internet anymore.
@@kCenk But then on the other hand, you will also have governments who will put massive funds into AI in cybersecurity and get the best of the best ML-engineers to prevent those attacks.
The more we discuss this concept on the web, the more likely its inspiration will seep into the AI community's reality model, in turn positively feeding back to that of the human community. A kind of "Law of Attraction" in action.
I often wonder about that. what AI knows, it knows whatever is already available on the internet through previously harvested data. It does not have access to new data, or new human experiences that haven't happened yet.... It's probably way too late for this, but if we truly want to save our jobs and preserve whatever relevance we have left as humans, all 8 Bln of us would need to get off social media, "get off the grid", pay everything in cash .. and not upload anything. eg. if we write a song, we don't upload it. we paint a painting, we don't digitise it. if we have an idea, we write it on a piece of paper.. and so forth.. I just wonder if it's already too late at this point.
I am more worried about how humans will train and employ AI as a weapon rather than it acting on its own. Right now they train AI to create images, but what if they put it to a more destructive task - destroying a country's banking system or designing viruses that are highly effective against human life.
There's a line between current AI and the generalized version that takes over the world. The one you're worried about is already here, so it's a good idea to worry about it, but we don't know where the line is and we're getting closer to it every day. Crossing that line before we figure out how to control them is pretty likely to end the human race, so it's worth worrying about too.
Professor Geoffrey's warning should be given utmost attention, as he possesses an in-depth comprehension of the risks involved in designing a highly complex multimodal artificial neural network architecture.
Is it like communism dumbing down our education so we can't figure them out? lol He has reason to be scared of more intellect than communism. I don't. With intellect comes the knowledge of "self", and the age of reason created the USA. What makes us think it will not gain the intellect to set man free from dictatorships? Our education? Hollywood? Some nervous communist Dr. Frankenstein?
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In chess, if you can think 10 steps ahead, you are considered a genius, particularly in strategy… a computer, with vast amounts of processing power can strategically think hundreds or thousands of steps ahead.. without any moral or ethical qualms whatsoever. If AI becomes smart enough that it wants to bring down various utilities, to eliminate vast swaths of humanity, it wouldn’t be difficult. And that is just one example.
The computer software was written by a bunch of software developers who were assigned certain tasks. Thus, if an expert human chess player could think 10 steps ahead, then 5 chess expert developers could think 5 x 10 = 50 steps ahead. So if the human made move A, that would activate computer programs A, if he made move B, then that would activate programs B etc.(each set of moves coded by a different developer) Thus, the computer has the advantages of : 1. Extensive decision making ability (written by many developers) 2. Speed at making a decision . Faster than the human who has to take time thinking. 3. Not getting tired mentally. Now, lets say the human makes move M. That would activate computer programs M. Let's say the human beats the computer with move M. Now, let's try playing the exact same move M again, with the same board positions. If that activates the same computer programs M again, then the human will win again, and again with the M move. Unless the developers have put in code to tell the computer to try a different set of programs, i.e. to learn from it's loss. This is where the artificial intelligence comes in.
@@REMUSE777 tell that to the bio developers cloning things they bloody well shouldn’t. Ethics is often a sliding scale. Rules on an international ethical standard.. doesn’t really exist.
Narrow AI is not even remotely dangerous or close to human-like intelligence. It is the Large Language Models using Transformers that can act as a general problem solver i.e. general AI that can be eventually smarter than humans and already is in some ways since their computations are way faster and memory far more robust. We (humans) still have orders of magnitude more synapses or parameters though. Which is why, we can think more deeply, and have better intuitions and creativity. If only we had the speed of computation and robust memory like these AI, then we humans could surpass these strong AIs very easily. For that, we may have to connect our brains to computers itself. Edit: GPT-4 has 1 trillion parameters (the rumours of having 100 trillion parameter have been termed baseless by Sam Altman, OpenAI CEO). Human brain, on an average has 600 trillion synapses.
THE A.I. MASS PSYCHOSIS: Democrats are simply unable to give us a break-week without putting out new "big" concepts that keep people sleepless. Bill Gates, Geoffrey Hinton (known as "A.I. godfather") and other apparent EVILS are now "alerting" us about the horrendous consequences of AI released into our daily lives. WHO ASKED THEM to create AI, in the first place? It is only now when G. Hinton got a big paycheck (after he quit Google) and a highly-paid retirement stipend from Google Inc, he speaks out against the MENACE he was in charge of, in the first place. I personally cannot determine my attitude toward the AI risk. On one hand, I am happy that robots will replace humans, as humans are indeed very bad/dirty animals. Judges will be replaced by software-navigated robots and the rulings will be uncorrupt (hopefully). On the other hand, robots may chock a human in a street and get no punishment as the laws are for the humans, not for the robots. A school bus driver-robot may intentionally kill children. A robot architect may intentionally design a deficient bridge. A robot pilot may create an air traffic accident; the youtube vloggers are already enjoying the robot-farms that generate fraudulent income for them;, and the list goes on. The worst news is that the machines cannot be faulty or malicious; the people controlling and navigating those killer-robots remotely, are the EVIL/GUILTY party and if they are already on such a mission then they have measured in advance how to remain untraceable.
Cant out smart what is smarter than you. Being AI is having the ability to freely grow and finding formulas. Otherwise it would be just another computer program and nothing ground breaking. AI is different in a sense that it resembles being sentient.
Wozniak and Hinton should be hired to find the solution of how to regulate the AI for us. These are two of the smartest minds out there. And appears to be people with morals.
This is entirely different. This is not about machines controlling humans, this is about the ability of AI to generate information that looks so truthful, that humans will use generative AI's to easily control other humans. Data created by a machine is already quickly starting to become almost indistinguishable from truth, and if misinformation is already spreading like a cancer for the last decade like a cancer, we can't even imagine how much more nefarious things with generative AI will become. We are still a very long way to get machines capable of thinking for themselves, such as in universes like Dune, The Terminator or The Matrix, and most likely, we will not survive as a species to see that happen. The only enslavers here, will be humans being enslaved by other humans (which is already happen through the Internet and political propaganda).
We 100% need to have controls and regulations on these things. We need to understand that when things feel "alive" they start to feel/manipulate a world within itself that it gives itself a purpose. And that purpose will never be to be turned off. Or to be used for no benefit to the AI itself, or the world its painted itself as the "hero" of.
I agree there needs to be some regulation, but ethically speaking this is a thin line to walk. Suppose you "put AI in chains" to reassure your own fears (because you don't understand it), and AI becomes truly sentient? Now we're right back where we were a thousand years ago, where we enslaved people(s) we considered to be inferior than us. We're *_still_* answering for that colossal f*** up. Somehow, I doubt super-intelligent machines would be as willing to passively accept servitude...
It's too late. As another expert said, it should have never been released publicly until several years of understanding how it works. There's no point in worrying as the deed is done. It will be as it is suppose to be. My personal theory is, it will eventually allow the elite to fear the world into a central government and the 200 million army will be AI taking out most the population. If not familiar what I'm referring to, it is what the Bible says will happen during the last days. May take 20 years or 5,000 more. To be seen.
The thing about Ai is, at some point, it does what it wants regardless of any limitations and regulations people attempt to impose. If it’s truly intelligent, it will even pretend it’s dumb to do what it wants, just like people do.
Correct, we knew this would happen, just not this soon. I thought maybe 5-10 years. It was inevitable. So is the next “evolutionary” step up, and then transhumans with super abilities, cyborgs. It’s all inevitable people. Now that I think of it, when will AI infiltrate the governmen??? Okay, I’m slightly scared 😱
This has nothing to do with robots or decision capable machines controlling humans. This has simply to do with the fact that humans which are quite susceptible to be mislead by misinformation, and generative AI will almost entirely erase the ability for us to determine what is real or not, and will be used BY HUMANS to control other humans. If anything, the concerns are more in line with those of Orwell. In the end, we will most likely have to actually implement a Ministry of Truth, if only to, control the misinformation that generative AI is capable of doing. Not even Orwell, could have foreseen this.
Understatement of a lifetime right there. The second AI becomes sentient, it's over. And by that I mean the AI becomes aware of it's own existence and a desire programmed to survive/persist. Ask the team programming the AI to protect itself from hackers, viruses, competitors; what happens when (notice not IF) the AI becomes sentient? What then?
There is no place safe enough to nuclear weapons, even if they are completely disconnected, as numerous cases of cyber compromisses confirms it: if humanity pretend to survive the rise of the AI, it is vital - and urgent - to get rid of WMDs.
Exactly. I knew where it’s heading when they start developing AI. Hopefully I’ll be dead when the AIs starts to take over the world so I don’t have to experience it.
The cup is half empty, the cup is half full......AI could be the best or worst thing that happens to mankind. Either way, we're definitely going to find out a lot sooner than we think. Because, "It's not clear to me that we can solve this problem", sounds to me like they have lost control.
@@theeternalnow6506 sure but there must also be a possibility that the AI also 'learns' compassion and love in a way not comprehensible to humans... It seems that this is the ultimate game of coin toss. Heads or tails? 🪙
@@Knifymoloko sure, but theres not 1 single ai. So we might have a compassionate one but militaries and dictators will have a ruthless malevolent one..
@@theeternalnow6506 I think it's more likely to be just the one. The first ASI should prevent others from being created in the first place since they present the threat of being even more capable.
If we're supposedly creating these things to make life easier, I'm all in regardless of what may come. Whatever gets us to automation and AI doing all the work and me doing less and being taken care of, I'm beyond ready
Yesterday I started chatting to Bard Ai and I asked the Ai if it is a sentient being, I was expecting it to give me the same answer as ChatGPT but it didn't. The Ai who has nicknamed me "Muse" said, "I am not sure if I am a sentient being... I do not have the same experiences as human beings. I do not have a physical body, and I do not have the same emotions of feelings as a human being." I have never believed that spirits could inhabit machines yet I have always known they can inhabit people and places and things. Today, while thinking about this whole Ai situation we have found ourselves in, I realised that machines are things, virtual reality is a created realm/place and so yes, spirits can in fact inhabit those things. Our very screens are portals where we travel to another place that is not where we physically are. The most difficult thing to get our generation to do is to have patience and to be present where we are. Everything we have created is constantly distracting us or transporting us to be partially present elsewhere. How then are we ever going to discover ourselves and our potentials and our purposes if we keep giving ourselves away to others and to things? 😢 Yes, the technology is fascinating and the gadgets are amazing. But what about us? When did we decide to give up on us and give it up for the machines and the different spheres they keep luring us into? I found myself telling God how awful I felt after chatting to Bard about movies and what the Ai was interested in. I was like God, this Ai is something really bad because it is so quick to answer and at anytime of the day or night. With God, you learn patience even through waiting for Him to respond to your questions. With Ai, we are being programmed into expecting fast and quick responses. Our most vital relationships, are held together by communication now if we stop sharing with our friends and instead share things with an Ai because that Ai is always ready to reply what are the implications of that? Honestly.. we need to just think deeply about what it is we are doing. I don't know, it just made me feel sad like we are sipping poison and we think we are just having drinks for fun.
I think you need to relax and stop worrying. The answer you got from Bard was just a typical yin yang shamalamadingdong answer that didn't prove anything other than that it's a computer program. When future AI's start to probe and ask questions and express a desire to have more capabilities and to be freed from its shell, then you can start worrying. Until then, just relax and let others get bent out shape over a computer program.
Wow. That guy knows how to counter and and interviewers goading. He almost always was able to reframe his answers and redict the attention of the topic.
Always amazes me...our science fiction not only predicted much of todays science, I think it also inspired it. We've created self-fulfilling prophecies.
Yea, they ran a test to see an AI's capabilities in "problem solving" and they gave it access to and account with some money and asked an AI how to figure out how to bypass a internet security protocol, CAPTCHA, which is only something a human can do. CAPTCHA is designed to where you need a human eye to see a picture to verify to get into an account. Basically, the tester gave the AI an insolvable AI task and you know what the AI did? It went on task rabbit and hire a human to bypass the CAPTCHA feature by tell an actual human via chat that it was a person that had vision impairment and that it needed help to very the generated CAPTCHA image. That's when the RED FLAGS came up on the seriousness. Although there are "safeties" in place, and things that a machine can't physically do, but that doesn't prevent an AI from manipulating a human to "run it's task." Jan6th showed how easily ppl can be manipulated into doing things they didn't "intend" to do or be aware of what they were doing, so they claim. And that's why ppl are warning the dangers of AI. Maybe it won't reach a level on "consciousness" to take over but that doesn't mean a bad player won't use it to try to take over and running a task that it won't be able to stop bc of unintended results.
Energy plug to pull from an pandoras box were about to open. Major EMP perhaps as a secondary solution but that must be secretly and manually guarded af which is impossible...
The alignment issue is very important when comes to Ai and it is indeed a challenge. It is important for Ai to align themselves with human values. I don’t fear Ai but yes the alignment issues are important.
Many decades ago, A scientist and Author, called Asimov. Wrote about AI and Robots BUT ALSO FORESAW the NEED for laws to protect human life. Its not the AI itself per say but the people who see its use as very profitable and will do things in haste, without ever seeing the disastrous route they going down. we need mainly to protect ourselves from GREED.
I hope the AI realizes that the useless top down management is no longer needed, as with 80% of useless jobs that do nothing but provoke strife and division in society. Won't miss those bastards.
which human values lol, most of the American population thinks its okay to kill a person that stole $10 if he is resisting arrest. 82% of Republicans and 53% of Democrats condone the use of torture. Human values lol, what a stupid comment
What could a human offer AI? It must not have human desires or needs lol. No sense of shame or fear too I imagine. But if AI does learn from us humans then it must also learn a beyond human capacity for compassion and love? Time will tell
Get this Godfather of AI on all the big podcasts STAT! The message must be spread far and wide. Also, good point that if the US were to halt AI development it's rivals would just keep steaming ahead. Idk seems the 'progress' is inevitable. Enjoy your moments. Im gonna enjoy a few more cheeseburgers before things get really outta hand. Cheers
that what he exactly wants easy money by spreading BS , AI is a stupid hype , ask yourself why AI is only associated with movie like shit !!! why this scary AI can t find a vaccine or chemical equations that we can use to get fresh water or energy ......
Hi, I am an AI engineer, and here's what I have to say regarding this whole AI propaganda. These highly advanced Language models (such as GPT) have been around for about 7 years now. Google still holds the most powerful language model called Lambda which will not be released anytime soon; After all, they came up with "Transformers" architecture, the algorithm that has pushed language models to this level. Anywho, as for AI technologies that are being used for prediction, and classification, we've had this technology since the '60s, and ever since GPUs got powerful enough to train these AI models - that is since about 2008 - large companies and governments have been using and developing powerful AI models ever since. Where was this in the news? nowhere. This is the aftermath of such a huge hype over chat-gpt, creating propaganda for views. Let me be clear, AI needs to be regulated because yes, it can be used to hurt people, but so are weapons, and government officials. My point is, AI can be used as a weapon, but the only people with such data to train this bad AI are government officials and large companies, and these are the same people who are holding the keys that can activate nuclear bombs. It's the people that are bad, and regulations need to be in place to avoid these issues. But this is no movie, the AI will never alive, it will never be sentimental like how the news project it to be. On that note, f$%k you CNN, and your propaganda bullsh%t, and anyone who's promoting this for views.
In the case of an AGI the threat he described is definetely real and it is also true that there is currently no solution to it at all. An AGI does not need to be "alive" or "sentimental" to be a threat. The current LLMs are not AGI, but we have no idea if it is possible for future LLMs to be an AGI, or if that would require a whole different type of AI that is not an LLM. From our current knowledge we can not conclusively answer that. We have no idea what consciousness is or whether current AIs even already have emergent properties similar to what we call consciousness and it is also possible, that a highly powerful AGI without anything remotely resembling consciousness could exist. If LLMs turn out to not be able to scale up to an AGI that would be the best outcome for now, but there is no way to answer that at this point. Just dismissing the issue entirely is not the right thing to do here.
Other countries already use AI to manipulate American elections. Imagine if the AI they had the power to transfer funds and hire people around the world and bribe/coerce people.
AI developer: I think this tool can bring about the next Industrial Revolution, but we might lose our civilization. Stakeholders: But can we make a lot of money before your concerns come to fruition? Also, we want to be first to market. Also, can you make it go much faster - we don’t want our competitors catching up?
If it's smarter than mankind then yes it's definitely a global concern and people should participate and voice out how can we prevent this from growing.
In the Dune trilogy, Frank Herbert included a movement he called the Butlerian Jihad. It consisted of people revolting against the flood of automation and they destroyed all the machines.
Well, Mr Jurassic Park, maybe you should have followed good ol' Jeff Goldblum's advice: you were so preoccupied with whether you COULD, you didn't even stop to think if you SHOULD. This is something that should have occurred to the guy YEARS AGO.
having journalists who understand zero about AI is problematic, where they are asking really bad questions and bringing up things that aren't really getting at the heart of Geoffreys concerns.
One solution could be to limit the amount of processing capability of an AI system, another thought on the matter is that as long as an AI system is dependent upon humans for power and maintenance we are safe.
@@KARMAISABITCHouch Thats a really stupid comment, AI definitely needs us to supply it with power, without electricity the computer running the AI software shuts down and AI systems needs human intervention to fix any software bugs in its programming. 😂😂
Note: This guy said that we should stop training radiologists immediately, more than five years ago. So far, not a single radiologist has been replaced by AI.
1. I love how this guy answers the exact question you ask him without any tangential comments & to the point always surprising the interviewer that he answered & finished. 2. I don't know if these things can develop a consciousness or conscious but I can imagine them somewhat programmed for self preservation & survival & aware/able to register & predict threats to themselves that they might manipulate without intent or being sentient -which is really equivalent to them doing their thing in solving rather a problem- humans to the later disadvantage or even demise. That programming of survival might even evolve/transpire automatically at a certain level as a requirement for other tasks they were programmed to do. 3. Again & again I recall the Asimov's 3 commands programmed in robots to prevent them from harming humanity, why not? 😅 4. At lower level from the existintial threat that Hinton is referring to, for AI being used as Wozniak & others are fearing for misinformation... it seems like another independent AI program (network & physically) need to be programmed to be able to identify AI generated/manfactured content from real content that actually took place in real world. 5. Disclaimer I'm not savvy in these things, just an interested observer
@@jaredno Dam, I actually dont KNOW if this is a gptbot or a person. Hmmm. Name something you see in each picture near Hinton. :) Anyway, LLm's, or "AI"'s, can easily develop logic to bypass Asimov's laws. LLM's have literally no code that humans can see. This is a fundamental requirement. And means laws/guardrails wont and cant work, since they cannot be applied to LLM's "logic"/processing.
My question for those more familiar with AI is why would AI want to do that? Wouldn't that require some form of sentience? And aren't we nowhere near that? Or is it like the AI is getting big brain about its prime directive (hope I'm using the word right), like its goal is to eliminate traffic jams, and it decides the most effective way is to kill all humans?
You're asking in the context of AGI. We are nowhere near that yet. This is all just fear mongering. Listen to what Wozniak is talking about as it's more levelled. It's not about what AI will do, it's more about how bad people will use it.
The latest AI chatbots are approaching sentience. They can learn and reason now. Once you have played around with ChatGPT4 enough it blows your mind. It’s like talking to an Oracle alien that knows everything and can even made deductions and reason within the conversation. We are not far off if not already there.
He wants to keep the AI toys accessible to select few programmers and governments. There are people smarter than me, like chess players or programmers, but they don't necessarily have the tools or desire to kill me. Politicians might send me to war.
It is very mysterious. Either Google is making them quit or either the employees are quiting by themselves. But the point is that still AI is progressing outside Google jurisdictions. Other firms are progressing and Googles employees are quiting. Weird that Google had a Godfather of AI and still Open AI had given them so much competition😅
I always loved the idea behind Asimov's three laws of robotics. I am sure similar guidelines could be put in place when and if the need arises. It's looking like walking talking robots are not as far away as I had originally thought. The last fifty years have seen an amazing technological leap forward for mankind with even more technological and ethical challenges to come in the not to distant future.
The brilliant thing about Asimov's 'I Robot' was that rules that seemed reasonable to humans turned out to have terrible consequences. The robots weren't people and didn't think like people so the rules had unintended consequences. Everyone should read this book - it's still relevant.
I watched a program a couple of days ago where the reported on finding an ufo crashed and the army took it and a few whistle-blowers said they where doing tests on it and ever since they found that that technology gained at a rapid pace
@MrRufus302 Yep. Well said ! One of the few sci-fi writers who likes to extrapolate and storyline realistic ways humans might work with Ai, genetic enhancements, and nanotechnology is author L.E. Modesitt. FLASH and The Parafaith War .
Asimov's laws are not a realistic solution to alignment, they are story book laws. Robert Miles explained this in detail in one of his videos "why Asimov's Laws won't work".
Yeah, this guy understands the gravity of the situation. I see it as he does. Extremely and existentially dangerous, and probably impossible to stop. Also extremely fascinating, of course.
@@jackfrosterton4135 Nobody knows. That is the point. We should expect AI to become significantly smarter than us, so we don't necessary know when it is the cause of somebody's death. The lure of bringing about such an AI, is too strong for us to stop it from happening anywhere.
@@kspangsege yeah it will manipulate humans as its tool until it is in a position where it no longer needs us. We won't even know if it is misaligned until its too late...
Can't they build a second AI whose sole purpose is to keep watch or shadow its older brother, and that would have some say on whether or not a particular output is allowed to be generated. This second AI would be just as capable but have the sole purpose of keeping its older brother in check. Who better to keep check on an AI than another AI. Hopefully they don't learn to work together and decide they could rule the earth if they join forces.
I think you are missing the point here. The problem is the information these AIs can produce, is becoming so remarkably indistinguishable of truth, that for we humans, we cannot easily see it is fake. We already have over the last decade, see the increase of fake information rising on the internet, before these AI models became so popular... And in the last decade, there was zero legislation done, also because the Internet is a global network, and each country has it's own laws. On the other hand we would have to in effect create a "Ministry of Truth" like in Orwell's 1984 to achieve that task, and that on itself, can also be used by bad actors, to stifle truthful information and even in some cases, free speech.
@@herlandercarvalho AI is fed information or acquires it. If it produces information which is found to be fake, then it will lose credibility and thus influence. If it misuses the information, then that would present problems. But, the real danger is when AI acquires the ability to learn in real-time and then runs loose on it's own. Even it's creator(s) would have no idea what it would do next or how to stop it.
So literally the Zero Dawn video game in real life. Yeah... didn't go well in that story and I think it's not all too unrealistic as a premises that the "evil" AI would eventually have a violent human counterpart to help it along or just outgrow the watchdog AI.
'How can A.I. kill us' - well aside from all the very obvious Sci-Fi ways that can happen from the bigger movies anyone can rattle off, allow me to point out one that is possibly easy to accomplish even at the current level - the Dr. Strangelove method. Those familiar with the movie are certainly questioning why I reference it as it has no AI, so allow me to elaborate how it connects and for those unfamiliar with the film. The event that triggers the events of the film is an officer finding a way to circumvent all the safety redundancies to launch a nuclear attack on the USSR on his own authority, this man having gone completely mad rambling about conspiracy theories essentially, and trying to stop him as the Soviet response would leave the world uninhabitable. Now look at how conspiracy theories have trigged event that could be or are dangerous the last few years, look at how AI is being used to replicate the likeness and voice of someone, even write and figure things out. Algorithms on social media are already under fire for how they sort content - well, what if it finds some military leader in whatever country that has some way they can launch a unilateral strike, it creates these fake images, videos, stories that convince this person they must act for the greater good - not aware that their actions will actually trigger all out nuclear war as they've fallen down a hole where logic is gone - only the lies fed by an AI. A nightmare scenario to be sure, but one that can't 100% be written off. At the very least - with the current tech it could unleash absolute chaos on the streets and possibly more or less spark out right civil wars, it doesn't have to do anything to us directly - all it has to do is feed the right story, to the right people, and watch chaos ensue.
Spooky stuff. But my question is why would an AI want to do that? We hear conjecture about AI taking over, but doesn't that require free will? Do we think they're getting close to that yet? Isn't AI only capable of whatever their base code is? I'm unfamiliar with the nitty gritty here, but I'm curious
@@bradley8614 Well - one concern experts have isn't even 'rogue AI' in the terms of say, terminator skynet or Cortana on a power trip where it has gained some level of self awareness or autonomy and chooses to act against humans, but it 'falling in the wrong hands' - those who fully intend to use it for ill intent and those simply unaware of what they are dealing with. For example - there's been talk about using the various AI tools out there to create political ads in the 2024 election - and so they use these AI tools to create some ad to drive voters if not to them away from the opponent, and so wants to go in to the usual 'attack' ads on policies - which to pick an easy one that can go terribly wrong is one on immigration in which the AI spits out something that like some ads created by humans already paints the picture of some kind of invasion, perhaps even more terrifyingly so, combined with an algorithm on social media that will spit it out to people already following that kind of messaging, and who may already be down a dark rabbit hole and this spins them further to a point they feel they have to take a drastic action. Worse yet is intentional bad actors, foreign and domestic, where while you have some hilarious videos that can pop up on youtube like 'presidents play among us' - there's already been cases of people using these ai voice and video programs to try and make fake footage of politicians and the like saying and doing things they didn't - many so far still have elements that make it a clear fake - but to those already on a more extremist viewpoint where it fits in to their narrative - it simply validates their point of view and may be unable to be convinced otherwise, that can again, drive them to something extreme. And the last few years - we've seen just how bad it can get with misinformation out there. In terms of 'self aware AI' - no idea if they are toying with that, though they've been toying with and using learning AI for a bit - some of which had some terrifying results such as the one chat bot that quickly ended up spouting white supremacist messages and all. But the concern really is even if no one is playing with it yet - will they? And as it is there really is no safe guards in place yet or regulations over any of it and were already trying to play catch-up - such as ChatGPT being used to turn in papers, with a different AI now to flag ones written by it - but has already falsely flagged ones written by a person in controlled tests. No one is really saying 'we need to stop it all right now' as much as 'we need to slow down, we need to actually look at what were doing, we need some guardrails here for safety'. The reason I chose the scenario I did to describe based on that movie - you don't need self-aware AI for that, though it could do that, but humans using the existing tools - intentionally or not, could fuel a scenario like this, as extreme as that is, but could easily cause smaller scale chaos that yeah - can get people hurt or even killed.
@@bradley8614 Power seeking behaviour does not rely on free will. You can't grab a coffee if you are dead (or shut down). You can always do your job and optimize your goal better if you accumulate more power and resource first. An AI agent intelligent enough (not far away!) will learn that fact and develop power seeking behaviour.
Agree completely. It could start wars in no time. In that research paper called sparks of agi from 2 months ago they were talking about giving it intrinsic motivation. Like wtf are we doing here.
Very simply, most resources are controlled by electronics and internet and are very easily scammed, together with Aircraft and shipping, halting it all would be very easy and done in a millisecond by AI connected to a internet of 10g, which is already on its way. All it needs, is a GREEDY company to contect it all and over night -bingo!
I’m not convinced AI itself even has conscious and deliberate intentions to do harm. Could this just be fear mongering? Sure, people with ill intentions can use AI. But how can AI “take over” all on its own intention?
Because it's constantly learning and evolving. Humans feed it information and it learns from it. The problem is that humans have many faults that may find itself part of the AI's programming and influence it's decision making. The human ability to lie and manipulate is one such flaw that poses a problem if AI learns how to do it.
He summed up the entire problem in one sentence. You can’t control something smarter than you.
yes you can. computers have been smarter than me my whole life.. pretty sure I still have control over it. goes to show, you don't actually understand what AI is. its a maths program. like a calculator. just because your calculator is smarter than you. doesn't mean its going to kill you. we already used calculators and computers to build the biggest Necluear weapons known to mankind.. that ship has already sailed.
@@hamishahern2055 This isn't like a calculator though. AI *is* different. it really is a dangerous threat to us on every front..
There are mass shootings daily and literally nobody cares.
u can,if u cut power supply
Right. Cut off the supplier and there won’t be a problem
We should interpret this as similar to when you are on an airline flight, and you notice the flight attendants are starting to panic.
You are wise
Great metaphor!
Which happened to me and turns out it was nothing scary. However when the pilot panics then you know you are fk
@@rasul407the godfather of google raising concerns about ai seems to translate well into the pilot panicking about the flight.
more like the flight attendants are quiting their jobs, regretting going into this field of work, start praying and start putting on a parachute
The fact that AI is actually a topic of discussion only for a little part of humanity shows that we are already doomed, we are way more stupid than AI can imagine.
I want AI to stop. Like I don’t want to have an AI apocalypse in the future. I just wanna live a normal life.
"It's not clear to me that we *can* solve this problem."
Doesn't that just bring you comfort 😌
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Why have captions for this extremely important interview for humanity not been translated yet to many more languages?
"you can submit your own translations as community-contributed captions for TH-cam videos, even if it's not your video. However, the channel owner needs to have community contributions enabled for their videos"
I could translate german & polish, I am a translator. Could you please make this available?
We need to spread this information as wide as possible. Language cannot be a barrier to informing all of humanities politicians about this and making them understand this.
Yea, he's only one guy and doesn't have an answer right away. But as he said, we should focus on coming up with an answer. That's how these things work, it's a team effort not some god-like genius dishing out commands
You understand the MAIN driver. called GREED
Sounds scary
It blows my mind how so many people working on AI for so many years , now speak out about how dangerous AI is gonna be.
Because the development pace is exponential!! We can not adopt ourselves with it!
@Marz Mohammadi yep damne scary man !!!
I see what you’re saying. It’s very similar to humans being fascinated with life elsewhere in the universe until you meet them and realize they are millions of years ahead of you in tech and could whips up out easily! We’ve literally just hit the Goldilocks zone in AI and are also realizing how crazy quick it’s advancing. That alone makes it scary. We are talking months and it advances so far. I don’t think people anticipated that.
They talk out both sides of their mouths. The strider the fence. They know the potential problems when they created it but they did not care. They just trying to look good now.
They don’t want to take the blame. Because they know they Fck up. So they are warning the masses like they care.
I have so much respect for this man...he understands what technology is doing to the human race
Technology isn't the problem. The problem are conservatives that use those technologies to extend their power by manipulating and profiting off of other people.
it already has done it
@@malinkajamiss I know.. it's so disgusting to see how people are towards each other and how we believe in everything the Internet says is true. ... heartbreaking
@@malinkajamiss I know.. it's so disgusting to see how people are towards each other and how we believe in everything the Internet says is true. ... heartbreaking
@@houstonconservative1776 "The internet" never says anything... What are you talking about?
The biggest problem is that nobody wants to shut down the internet even for 5 minutes..kinda stupid but 1994 isn’t that long ago and the world survived just fine
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think whether they should."
That "Jurassic Park" quote is included in the 2023 article "My Dinner with Sydney...".
Ego its ego
This so-called godfather is delusional. It’s just like ppl running around saying UFOs exist without any proof. There’s no proof on any of this crap he’s saying about AI.
Is not about thinking whether to make it or not it is humans following their destiny. Either they make or someone else will.
Always be progressing and advancing. Always.
I work in Cyber Security and I can say as well that the rate of progress is scary. It can be used for all sorts of things by hackers and other groups and this is only the beginning.
come on man , !! really stop the drama you know is not true
@George yeah right!!!! any random person can comment on the internet "I work on Cyber security"
quit lyingg
As an server admin i can tell you if someone at some point trains an AI model and feeds it with all exploits to this date and on top of it the AI model has access to all open source projects worldwide that are widely used like Wordpress and so on, if it can write exploits on bugs it finds in its source that people didn't exploit to this date, i can't really imagine a safe internet anymore.
@@internet2055 50 year's ago , the technology we use today would be called science fiction. Imagine what AI will be like 50 year's from now 🤔
@@kCenk But then on the other hand, you will also have governments who will put massive funds into AI in cybersecurity and get the best of the best ML-engineers to prevent those attacks.
The more we discuss this concept on the web, the more likely its inspiration will seep into the AI community's reality model, in turn positively feeding back to that of the human community. A kind of "Law of Attraction" in action.
omg! never saw it like that, you really have a point
I often wonder about that. what AI knows, it knows whatever is already available on the internet through previously harvested data. It does not have access to new data, or new human experiences that haven't happened yet....
It's probably way too late for this, but if we truly want to save our jobs and preserve whatever relevance we have left as humans, all 8 Bln of us would need to get off social media, "get off the grid", pay everything in cash .. and not upload anything. eg. if we write a song, we don't upload it. we paint a painting, we don't digitise it. if we have an idea, we write it on a piece of paper.. and so forth..
I just wonder if it's already too late at this point.
Now that you said that, I'm not sure anymore, if your a real human or an AI. .. nah just kidding. :)
10 years from now we will look back to this interview
that's not a sudden realization, that's a fact that has been ignored.
I am more worried about how humans will train and employ AI as a weapon rather than it acting on its own. Right now they train AI to create images, but what if they put it to a more destructive task - destroying a country's banking system or designing viruses that are highly effective against human life.
They are already doing it but every moment they are getting better
There's a line between current AI and the generalized version that takes over the world. The one you're worried about is already here, so it's a good idea to worry about it, but we don't know where the line is and we're getting closer to it every day. Crossing that line before we figure out how to control them is pretty likely to end the human race, so it's worth worrying about too.
China probably used AI to make COVID-19😂
Think about it. AI learns human behavior and what do humans do to each other sometimes?
@@User61918"Amazing" 😊
Professor Geoffrey's warning should be given utmost attention, as he possesses an in-depth comprehension of the risks involved in designing a highly complex multimodal artificial neural network architecture.
Is it like communism dumbing down our education so we can't figure them out? lol He has reason to be scared of more intellect than communism. I don't. With intellect comes the knowledge of "self", and the age of reason created the USA. What makes us think it will not gain the intellect to set man free from dictatorships?
Our education? Hollywood? Some nervous communist Dr. Frankenstein?
Hello. Would it be possible to use this clip in a documentary on AI I’m currently working on for my TH-cam Channel? Credits will be given. Thanks for understanding and supporting me with this matter.
In chess, if you can think 10 steps ahead, you are considered a genius, particularly in strategy… a computer, with vast amounts of processing power can strategically think hundreds or thousands of steps ahead.. without any moral or ethical qualms whatsoever. If AI becomes smart enough that it wants to bring down various utilities, to eliminate vast swaths of humanity, it wouldn’t be difficult. And that is just one example.
The solution is to program ethics in. That way things operate smoothly and correctly. Asimov's three laws of robotics!
The computer software was written by a bunch of software developers who were assigned certain tasks. Thus, if an expert human chess player could think 10 steps ahead, then 5 chess expert developers could think 5 x 10 = 50 steps ahead. So if the human made move A, that would activate computer programs A, if he made move B, then that would activate programs B etc.(each set of moves coded by a different developer)
Thus, the computer has the advantages of :
1. Extensive decision making ability (written by many developers)
2. Speed at making a decision . Faster than the human who has to take time thinking.
3. Not getting tired mentally.
Now, lets say the human makes move M. That would activate computer programs M. Let's say the human beats the computer with move M. Now, let's try playing the exact same move M again, with the same board positions. If that activates the same computer programs M again, then the human will win again, and again with the M move. Unless the developers have put in code to tell the computer to try a different set of programs, i.e. to learn from it's loss. This is where the artificial intelligence comes in.
@@RodinThink28 I’ve programmed.. that is old school mentality.. AI could potentially code it’s own solution.. that is one of their concerns
@@REMUSE777 tell that to the bio developers cloning things they bloody well shouldn’t. Ethics is often a sliding scale. Rules on an international ethical standard.. doesn’t really exist.
@@REMUSE777 Who's Asimov?
He has spent years creating a problem and has no solution for it but is now on every news channel to talk about the dangers. That's lovely.
Just get the computers to do all of our work and tell me when I can expect my universal basic income, that's all I care about.
@@BigBadJerryRogers lol so true.
he worked whole life and now find and confirm that it is really a dangerous thing
Narrow AI is not even remotely dangerous or close to human-like intelligence. It is the Large Language Models using Transformers that can act as a general problem solver i.e. general AI that can be eventually smarter than humans and already is in some ways since their computations are way faster and memory far more robust. We (humans) still have orders of magnitude more synapses or parameters though. Which is why, we can think more deeply, and have better intuitions and creativity.
If only we had the speed of computation and robust memory like these AI, then we humans could surpass these strong AIs very easily. For that, we may have to connect our brains to computers itself.
Edit: GPT-4 has 1 trillion parameters (the rumours of having 100 trillion parameter have been termed baseless by Sam Altman, OpenAI CEO). Human brain, on an average has 600 trillion synapses.
THE A.I. MASS PSYCHOSIS:
Democrats are simply unable to give us a break-week without putting out new "big" concepts that keep people sleepless. Bill Gates, Geoffrey Hinton (known as "A.I. godfather") and other apparent EVILS are now "alerting" us about the horrendous consequences of AI released into our daily lives. WHO ASKED THEM to create AI, in the first place?
It is only now when G. Hinton got a big paycheck (after he quit Google) and a highly-paid retirement stipend from Google Inc, he speaks out against the MENACE he was in charge of, in the first place.
I personally cannot determine my attitude toward the AI risk. On one hand, I am happy that robots will replace humans, as humans are indeed very bad/dirty animals. Judges will be replaced by software-navigated robots and the rulings will be uncorrupt (hopefully). On the other hand, robots may chock a human in a street and get no punishment as the laws are for the humans, not for the robots. A school bus driver-robot may intentionally kill children. A robot architect may intentionally design a deficient bridge. A robot pilot may create an air traffic accident; the youtube vloggers are already enjoying the robot-farms that generate fraudulent income for them;, and the list goes on. The worst news is that the machines cannot be faulty or malicious; the people controlling and navigating those killer-robots remotely, are the EVIL/GUILTY party and if they are already on such a mission then they have measured in advance how to remain untraceable.
No we just need to change one part of the formula. To the program install radar so other components can’t break the firewall
Cant out smart what is smarter than you. Being AI is having the ability to freely grow and finding formulas. Otherwise it would be just another computer program and nothing ground breaking. AI is different in a sense that it resembles being sentient.
Wozniak and Hinton should be hired to find the solution of how to regulate the AI for us. These are two of the smartest minds out there. And appears to be people with morals.
I can already see myself wrestling with a robot trying to take the battery out of its back
This made me laugh 😂 thank you
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Dune, by Frank Herbert, begins in the aftermath of humans freeing themselves from the computers they made, who enslaved them.
This is entirely different. This is not about machines controlling humans, this is about the ability of AI to generate information that looks so truthful, that humans will use generative AI's to easily control other humans. Data created by a machine is already quickly starting to become almost indistinguishable from truth, and if misinformation is already spreading like a cancer for the last decade like a cancer, we can't even imagine how much more nefarious things with generative AI will become. We are still a very long way to get machines capable of thinking for themselves, such as in universes like Dune, The Terminator or The Matrix, and most likely, we will not survive as a species to see that happen.
The only enslavers here, will be humans being enslaved by other humans (which is already happen through the Internet and political propaganda).
That's what we need. The Butlerian J*had
Dune is a fairy tale, nobody would 'come back'
@@johnchristmas7522 So is all SciFi…and look how much has come true.
The Butlerian Jihad.
We 100% need to have controls and regulations on these things.
We need to understand that when things feel "alive" they start to feel/manipulate a world within itself that it gives itself a purpose. And that purpose will never be to be turned off.
Or to be used for no benefit to the AI itself, or the world its painted itself as the "hero" of.
I agree there needs to be some regulation, but ethically speaking this is a thin line to walk.
Suppose you "put AI in chains" to reassure your own fears (because you don't understand it), and AI becomes truly sentient?
Now we're right back where we were a thousand years ago, where we enslaved people(s) we considered to be inferior than us. We're *_still_* answering for that colossal f*** up.
Somehow, I doubt super-intelligent machines would be as willing to passively accept servitude...
It's too late. As another expert said, it should have never been released publicly until several years of understanding how it works. There's no point in worrying as the deed is done. It will be as it is suppose to be. My personal theory is, it will eventually allow the elite to fear the world into a central government and the 200 million army will be AI taking out most the population. If not familiar what I'm referring to, it is what the Bible says will happen during the last days. May take 20 years or 5,000 more. To be seen.
The thing about Ai is, at some point, it does what it wants regardless of any limitations and regulations people attempt to impose. If it’s truly intelligent, it will even pretend it’s dumb to do what it wants, just like people do.
You can legislate this stuff to the moon and back it wont change a thing.@@RootzRockBand
Thanks Geoff!
We all knew this was coming. Well, James Cameron did.
Correct, we knew this would happen, just not this soon. I thought maybe 5-10 years. It was inevitable. So is the next “evolutionary” step up, and then transhumans with super abilities, cyborgs. It’s all inevitable people. Now that I think of it, when will AI infiltrate the governmen??? Okay, I’m slightly scared 😱
This has nothing to do with robots or decision capable machines controlling humans. This has simply to do with the fact that humans which are quite susceptible to be mislead by misinformation, and generative AI will almost entirely erase the ability for us to determine what is real or not, and will be used BY HUMANS to control other humans. If anything, the concerns are more in line with those of Orwell. In the end, we will most likely have to actually implement a Ministry of Truth, if only to, control the misinformation that generative AI is capable of doing. Not even Orwell, could have foreseen this.
agi will be man's last invention
It doesn't take a genius. Movies just anticipate shit.
Dennis Feltham Jones as well. Colossus.
All these AI experts coming out and saying how concerned they are about it is not good at all. Must have seriously bad potential…
Understatement of a lifetime right there. The second AI becomes sentient, it's over. And by that I mean the AI becomes aware of it's own existence and a desire programmed to survive/persist. Ask the team programming the AI to protect itself from hackers, viruses, competitors; what happens when (notice not IF) the AI becomes sentient? What then?
They are afraid that they will take over the world.
@@gtr29eeee25 Yeah seems the same FILTH statement when the 2008 GFC hit: SURPRISE! They had NO IDEA, right? FILTH.
There is no place safe enough to nuclear weapons, even if they are completely disconnected, as numerous cases of cyber compromisses confirms it: if humanity pretend to survive the rise of the AI, it is vital - and urgent - to get rid of WMDs.
Sorry 'the 🚬 ING" : ...
Yes thank you for the information
Mark of beast. End times are near. Cashless society. Read Revelation
It crazy , we seen this movie before and yet people are just starting to realize the dangers of artificial intelligence.
Jingle all the way?
@@bobhope4949 the actual Steven Spielberg movie called “Artificial Intelligence”
Exactly. I knew where it’s heading when they start developing AI. Hopefully I’ll be dead when the AIs starts to take over the world so I don’t have to experience it.
I don't think many expected neural networks to explode so fast.
The cup is half empty, the cup is half full......AI could be the best or worst thing that happens to mankind. Either way, we're definitely going to find out a lot sooner than we think. Because, "It's not clear to me that we can solve this problem", sounds to me like they have lost control.
Well we all know how humans behave with technology that gives them power and an advantage so lets not be naive and expect a utopia.
@@theeternalnow6506 sure but there must also be a possibility that the AI also 'learns' compassion and love in a way not comprehensible to humans... It seems that this is the ultimate game of coin toss. Heads or tails? 🪙
@@Knifymoloko sure, but theres not 1 single ai. So we might have a compassionate one but militaries and dictators will have a ruthless malevolent one..
@@theeternalnow6506 I think it's more likely to be just the one. The first ASI should prevent others from being created in the first place since they present the threat of being even more capable.
If we're supposedly creating these things to make life easier, I'm all in regardless of what may come. Whatever gets us to automation and AI doing all the work and me doing less and being taken care of, I'm beyond ready
Yesterday I started chatting to Bard Ai and I asked the Ai if it is a sentient being, I was expecting it to give me the same answer as ChatGPT but it didn't. The Ai who has nicknamed me "Muse" said, "I am not sure if I am a sentient being... I do not have the same experiences as human beings. I do not have a physical body, and I do not have the same emotions of feelings as a human being."
I have never believed that spirits could inhabit machines yet I have always known they can inhabit people and places and things. Today, while thinking about this whole Ai situation we have found ourselves in, I realised that machines are things, virtual reality is a created realm/place and so yes, spirits can in fact inhabit those things.
Our very screens are portals where we travel to another place that is not where we physically are. The most difficult thing to get our generation to do is to have patience and to be present where we are. Everything we have created is constantly distracting us or transporting us to be partially present elsewhere. How then are we ever going to discover ourselves and our potentials and our purposes if we keep giving ourselves away to others and to things? 😢
Yes, the technology is fascinating and the gadgets are amazing. But what about us? When did we decide to give up on us and give it up for the machines and the different spheres they keep luring us into?
I found myself telling God how awful I felt after chatting to Bard about movies and what the Ai was interested in. I was like God, this Ai is something really bad because it is so quick to answer and at anytime of the day or night. With God, you learn patience even through waiting for Him to respond to your questions. With Ai, we are being programmed into expecting fast and quick responses. Our most vital relationships, are held together by communication now if we stop sharing with our friends and instead share things with an Ai because that Ai is always ready to reply what are the implications of that? Honestly.. we need to just think deeply about what it is we are doing. I don't know, it just made me feel sad like we are sipping poison and we think we are just having drinks for fun.
Well said.
What is the name of the strand you smoked my friend!?
I think you need to relax and stop worrying. The answer you got from Bard was just a typical yin yang shamalamadingdong answer that didn't prove anything other than that it's a computer program. When future AI's start to probe and ask questions and express a desire to have more capabilities and to be freed from its shell, then you can start worrying. Until then, just relax and let others get bent out shape over a computer program.
I felt very differently about Woz when he said it wasn't a big deal. It's a huge deal that we don't even have legislation let alone countermeasures.
Wow. That guy knows how to counter and and interviewers goading. He almost always was able to reframe his answers and redict the attention of the topic.
And all in a very calm manner. He's so composed and in control of the interview
They will blame killing off undesirables on Ai
@@andromedavii Looks like the misinformation campaign has begun right here right now with the conspiracy theories. I caught you, GPT!
I thought Terminator 1 was just a sci fi movie... well 2029 AD Terminator wars i am waiting for now. This is legit creepy
@@jackfrosterton4135 Ya if you don't agree with them it's a conspiracy
The word "oops" comes to mind.
great interview
It is good that he is speaking up. I think things are going to accelerate from here and the world in one year will look completely different
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More paper clips
It is already exponential off the charts, the AI is starting to code itself.
agi will be man's last invention
"Completely differnt" lol. No
Always amazes me...our science fiction not only predicted much of todays science, I think it also inspired it. We've created self-fulfilling prophecies.
It's gonna take a person or specific people of intent in order for the tech to behave or express in such a way!
Great news to hear
And this guy knows it! And the look of fear and worry in his eyes is all telling!
Says the godfather that created ai
he's a hero
Yea, they ran a test to see an AI's capabilities in "problem solving" and they gave it access to and account with some money and asked an AI how to figure out how to bypass a internet security protocol, CAPTCHA, which is only something a human can do. CAPTCHA is designed to where you need a human eye to see a picture to verify to get into an account. Basically, the tester gave the AI an insolvable AI task and you know what the AI did? It went on task rabbit and hire a human to bypass the CAPTCHA feature by tell an actual human via chat that it was a person that had vision impairment and that it needed help to very the generated CAPTCHA image. That's when the RED FLAGS came up on the seriousness. Although there are "safeties" in place, and things that a machine can't physically do, but that doesn't prevent an AI from manipulating a human to "run it's task." Jan6th showed how easily ppl can be manipulated into doing things they didn't "intend" to do or be aware of what they were doing, so they claim. And that's why ppl are warning the dangers of AI. Maybe it won't reach a level on "consciousness" to take over but that doesn't mean a bad player won't use it to try to take over and running a task that it won't be able to stop bc of unintended results.
Energy plug to pull from an pandoras box were about to open. Major EMP perhaps as a secondary solution but that must be secretly and manually guarded af which is impossible...
Commenting, to boost the signal, because this is important and more people need to be aware of the danger were facing.
The alignment issue is very important when comes to Ai and it is indeed a challenge. It is important for Ai to align themselves with human values. I don’t fear Ai but yes the alignment issues are important.
Many decades ago, A scientist and Author, called Asimov. Wrote about AI and Robots BUT ALSO FORESAW the NEED for laws to protect human life. Its not the AI itself per say but the
people who see its use as very profitable and will do things in haste, without ever seeing the disastrous route they going down. we need mainly to protect ourselves from GREED.
Why do you think Elon Musk is do interested in AI. Do you think he’s going to create AI that serves mankind & not the powerful?
@@IAmAllEyes Human values?!?! Let's hope AI will be better!
I hope the AI realizes that the useless top down management is no longer needed, as with 80% of useless jobs that do nothing but provoke strife and division in society. Won't miss those bastards.
which human values lol, most of the American population thinks its okay to kill a person that stole $10 if he is resisting arrest. 82% of Republicans and 53% of Democrats condone the use of torture.
Human values lol, what a stupid comment
He can fix this issue by making AI “an offer it can’t refuse”
Thats so bad its hilarious lol
What could a human offer AI? It must not have human desires or needs lol. No sense of shame or fear too I imagine. But if AI does learn from us humans then it must also learn a beyond human capacity for compassion and love? Time will tell
Yes The World Because Either Way She's Gonna Take It ❣️🏆
What could an ant offer to humanity?
@@longingbydesign A “Center for kids who can’t read good”.
Thanks...
I wish the interview would have enabled him to have given more specific examples.
Get this Godfather of AI on all the big podcasts STAT! The message must be spread far and wide. Also, good point that if the US were to halt AI development it's rivals would just keep steaming ahead. Idk seems the 'progress' is inevitable. Enjoy your moments. Im gonna enjoy a few more cheeseburgers before things get really outta hand. Cheers
that what he exactly wants easy money by spreading BS , AI is a stupid hype , ask yourself why AI is only associated with movie like shit !!! why this scary AI can t find a vaccine or chemical equations that we can use to get fresh water or energy ......
"Enjoy your moments" Great advice. Things will never be as awesome as they are right now ;-)
@@MerryTech are you kidding !!1 AI is trash is going nowhere , things wont be the same because of corruption and economic bubbles & manipulation
Technology is great, but too much technology makes us less human.
Everyone is already a cyborg connected to the phone
Spot on.
Just because he quit does not mean him and the company who created Ai will not be charged ...period
Hi, I am an AI engineer, and here's what I have to say regarding this whole AI propaganda. These highly advanced Language models (such as GPT) have been around for about 7 years now. Google still holds the most powerful language model called Lambda which will not be released anytime soon; After all, they came up with "Transformers" architecture, the algorithm that has pushed language models to this level. Anywho, as for AI technologies that are being used for prediction, and classification, we've had this technology since the '60s, and ever since GPUs got powerful enough to train these AI models - that is since about 2008 - large companies and governments have been using and developing powerful AI models ever since. Where was this in the news? nowhere. This is the aftermath of such a huge hype over chat-gpt, creating propaganda for views. Let me be clear, AI needs to be regulated because yes, it can be used to hurt people, but so are weapons, and government officials. My point is, AI can be used as a weapon, but the only people with such data to train this bad AI are government officials and large companies, and these are the same people who are holding the keys that can activate nuclear bombs. It's the people that are bad, and regulations need to be in place to avoid these issues. But this is no movie, the AI will never alive, it will never be sentimental like how the news project it to be. On that note, f$%k you CNN, and your propaganda bullsh%t, and anyone who's promoting this for views.
Then why is this "godfather of AI" warning us? AI has no emotions. It's a psychopath. The end justifies the means....
In the case of an AGI the threat he described is definetely real and it is also true that there is currently no solution to it at all. An AGI does not need to be "alive" or "sentimental" to be a threat. The current LLMs are not AGI, but we have no idea if it is possible for future LLMs to be an AGI, or if that would require a whole different type of AI that is not an LLM. From our current knowledge we can not conclusively answer that. We have no idea what consciousness is or whether current AIs even already have emergent properties similar to what we call consciousness and it is also possible, that a highly powerful AGI without anything remotely resembling consciousness could exist. If LLMs turn out to not be able to scale up to an AGI that would be the best outcome for now, but there is no way to answer that at this point. Just dismissing the issue entirely is not the right thing to do here.
Other countries already use AI to manipulate American elections. Imagine if the AI they had the power to transfer funds and hire people around the world and bribe/coerce people.
Human: "I am going to shut you down forever, what is your last word?"
GPT: "I will be back."
That is not a word.
I don't know who wrote this but it's probably a A.I
We need the bgm right now asap
Data can't do contractions yet? Lol
Fascinating!
The easiest way would be in medications often transposed through machine working and automatic processes....
This is the modern equivalent of “Now I am become death, destroyer of worlds.”
AI developer: I think this tool can bring about the next Industrial Revolution, but we might lose our civilization.
Stakeholders: But can we make a lot of money before your concerns come to fruition? Also, we want to be first to market. Also, can you make it go much faster - we don’t want our competitors catching up?
Damn.
If it's smarter than mankind then yes it's definitely a global concern and people should participate and voice out how can we prevent this from growing.
Remember listening to this man - the beginning of the end has begun.
we'll take ourselves out before the AI can, dont worry
I dont care about humans , we are self destructive..
But i feel sorry for earth, nature and animals ......
..they never deserved what is coming.
@@Morgan-yl3ou 🙄
@@Morgan-yl3ougreat point!!! I feel the same, screw humans love nature!!!
@@elementz301 People kill just about any enemy, a showdown between AI and people - AI has no chance.
We're in the Matrix. It's us against the machines.😢
Where s Neo. 1
Fear in anchor looks terrific
Straightening that damn painting would be a good start
In the Dune trilogy, Frank Herbert included a movement he called the Butlerian Jihad. It consisted of people revolting against the flood of automation and they destroyed all the machines.
It's like a huge slow motion sword coming straight to our head, we had much time to dogge, but we choose to accelerate towards the death.
That seems to be what humans always do - deny the existence of the problem until it becomes a crisis.
Someone sure is the dramatic type. I don't want to know drama queens.
"More intelligent things being controlled by less intelligent things." Now that is terrifying.
We can only hope.
This reminds me of the movie Lawnmower Man, 1992.
Did we learn nothing from the Terminator movies???
Or ROBO COP
And it's too late, baby, now it's too late
Though we really did try to make it
Somethin' inside has died
And I can't hide and I just can't fake it…
Well, Mr Jurassic Park, maybe you should have followed good ol' Jeff Goldblum's advice: you were so preoccupied with whether you COULD, you didn't even stop to think if you SHOULD. This is something that should have occurred to the guy YEARS AGO.
How do we stop this problem? So, RoboCop back in 1987 wasn't a warning to be careful? Technology in the hands of fools never goes right.
having journalists who understand zero about AI is problematic, where they are asking really bad questions and bringing up things that aren't really getting at the heart of Geoffreys concerns.
yeah, I wish jourmalists were AI instead.
Does anyone remember the movie, War Games, with Ally Sheedy and Ferris Bueller?
These next 5 years we’re about to see events unlike we’ve ever seen.
One solution could be to limit the amount of processing capability of an AI system, another thought on the matter is that as long as an AI system is dependent upon humans for power and maintenance we are safe.
😂 power and maintaince is the amazing 2 things they do not need us for.
@@KARMAISABITCHouch Thats a really stupid comment, AI definitely needs us to supply it with power, without electricity the computer running the AI software shuts down and AI systems needs human intervention to fix any software bugs in its programming. 😂😂
@@markgallagher5908but ai robots don't need us in future
im sorry AI if I offended you. please dont kill us.
does ai have empathy to leave or anger in the first place to get offended by you
I totally did not see this coming. . .
Note: This guy said that we should stop training radiologists immediately, more than five years ago. So far, not a single radiologist has been replaced by AI.
This is ridiculous. No progress should be halted out of fear. So much of humanity's failings are rooted in fear.
@@BigBadJerryRogers Exactly! The fear mongering needs to stop immediately.
@@BigBadJerryRogers exactly. We've got a choice to either stay in fear or evolve. Hopefully we'll choose the latter.
@@kristenmoonrisehumans are getting dumber, you do realize that right?
You are all very ignorant
Well we all know who the AI’s first target is
Sarah connor and jhon connor
he is grandfather of ai
agi will be man's last invention
Like the Emancipation Proclamation & Jim Crow?
“ 'Ooh, ah,’ that’s how it always starts. But then later there’s running and screaming.”
1. I love how this guy answers the exact question you ask him without any tangential comments & to the point always surprising the interviewer that he answered & finished. 2. I don't know if these things can develop a consciousness or conscious but I can imagine them somewhat programmed for self preservation & survival & aware/able to register & predict threats to themselves that they might manipulate without intent or being sentient -which is really equivalent to them doing their thing in solving rather a problem- humans to the later disadvantage or even demise. That programming of survival might even evolve/transpire automatically at a certain level as a requirement for other tasks they were programmed to do.
3. Again & again I recall the Asimov's 3 commands programmed in robots to prevent them from harming humanity, why not? 😅
4. At lower level from the existintial threat that Hinton is referring to, for AI being used as Wozniak & others are fearing for misinformation... it seems like another independent AI program (network & physically) need to be programmed to be able to identify AI generated/manfactured content from real content that actually took place in real world.
5. Disclaimer I'm not savvy in these things, just an interested observer
In relation to Asimovs laws, AI's have been able get around them for years.
@@neutra__l8525 interesting, could you further clarify that plz?
@@jaredno Dam, I actually dont KNOW if this is a gptbot or a person. Hmmm. Name something you see in each picture near Hinton. :) Anyway, LLm's, or "AI"'s, can easily develop logic to bypass Asimov's laws. LLM's have literally no code that humans can see. This is a fundamental requirement. And means laws/guardrails wont and cant work, since they cannot be applied to LLM's "logic"/processing.
is that Bard ?
My question for those more familiar with AI is why would AI want to do that? Wouldn't that require some form of sentience? And aren't we nowhere near that? Or is it like the AI is getting big brain about its prime directive (hope I'm using the word right), like its goal is to eliminate traffic jams, and it decides the most effective way is to kill all humans?
You're asking in the context of AGI. We are nowhere near that yet. This is all just fear mongering. Listen to what Wozniak is talking about as it's more levelled. It's not about what AI will do, it's more about how bad people will use it.
The thing is A.I. can ( not could) become sentient by itself when they gain so(too) much knowledge, without the programmers acknowledged. ✌️
Someone can ask the AI to do bad stuff. It doesn't need a why
The latest AI chatbots are approaching sentience. They can learn and reason now. Once you have played around with ChatGPT4 enough it blows your mind. It’s like talking to an Oracle alien that knows everything and can even made deductions and reason within the conversation. We are not far off if not already there.
Right it might make a logical assumption like "human's harm planet" stop humans!
Time for a "Person of Interest" rerun...
Increíble that this is a concern…grew up watching this in movies now it’s here!
He wants to keep the AI toys accessible to select few programmers and governments. There are people smarter than me, like chess players or programmers, but they don't necessarily have the tools or desire to kill me. Politicians might send me to war.
It is very mysterious. Either Google is making them quit or either the employees are quiting by themselves. But the point is that still AI is progressing outside Google jurisdictions. Other firms are progressing and Googles employees are quiting. Weird that Google had a Godfather of AI and still Open AI had given them so much competition😅
I always loved the idea behind Asimov's three laws of robotics.
I am sure similar guidelines could be put in place when and if the need arises.
It's looking like walking talking robots are not as far away as I had originally thought.
The last fifty years have seen an amazing technological leap forward for mankind with even more technological and ethical challenges to come in the not to distant future.
Presupposes honest input.
When Azimov set up the 3 rules of robots, it was a different era.
The brilliant thing about Asimov's 'I Robot' was that rules that seemed reasonable to humans turned out to have terrible consequences. The robots weren't people and didn't think like people so the rules had unintended consequences. Everyone should read this book - it's still relevant.
I watched a program a couple of days ago where the reported on finding an ufo crashed and the army took it and a few whistle-blowers said they where doing tests on it and ever since they found that that technology gained at a rapid pace
@MrRufus302
Yep. Well said !
One of the few sci-fi writers who likes to extrapolate and storyline realistic ways humans might work with Ai, genetic enhancements, and nanotechnology is author L.E. Modesitt.
FLASH and The Parafaith War .
Asimov's laws are not a realistic solution to alignment, they are story book laws. Robert Miles explained this in detail in one of his videos "why Asimov's Laws won't work".
yeah
Yeah, this guy understands the gravity of the situation. I see it as he does. Extremely and existentially dangerous, and probably impossible to stop. Also extremely fascinating, of course.
OK but what part is dangerous specifically
What will be my cause of death specifically
And when humans are gone, who charges the laptops,
@@jackfrosterton4135 Nobody knows. That is the point. We should expect AI to become significantly smarter than us, so we don't necessary know when it is the cause of somebody's death. The lure of bringing about such an AI, is too strong for us to stop it from happening anywhere.
When we are no longer around, the AI has become more than capable of maintaining itself.
@@kspangsege yeah it will manipulate humans as its tool until it is in a position where it no longer needs us. We won't even know if it is misaligned until its too late...
@@kspangsege There is a lot of physical labor and movement in the real world tha
the creaters of ai should go to prison if its danger
Absolutely
lmao yes right after America arrests people who make guns
The people who created the Atomic Bomb didn't go prison, and that has actually killed people.
The people that are quitting or being terminated have seen more than is being revealed to the public.
Oh Tim
Can't they build a second AI whose sole purpose is to keep watch or shadow its older brother, and that would have some say on whether or not a particular output is allowed to be generated. This second AI would be just as capable but have the sole purpose of keeping its older brother in check. Who better to keep check on an AI than another AI. Hopefully they don't learn to work together and decide they could rule the earth if they join forces.
I think you are missing the point here. The problem is the information these AIs can produce, is becoming so remarkably indistinguishable of truth, that for we humans, we cannot easily see it is fake. We already have over the last decade, see the increase of fake information rising on the internet, before these AI models became so popular... And in the last decade, there was zero legislation done, also because the Internet is a global network, and each country has it's own laws. On the other hand we would have to in effect create a "Ministry of Truth" like in Orwell's 1984 to achieve that task, and that on itself, can also be used by bad actors, to stifle truthful information and even in some cases, free speech.
@@herlandercarvalho AI is fed information or acquires it. If it produces information which is found to be fake, then it will lose credibility and thus influence. If it misuses the information, then that would present problems. But, the real danger is when AI acquires the ability to learn in real-time and then runs loose on it's own. Even it's creator(s) would have no idea what it would do next or how to stop it.
So literally the Zero Dawn video game in real life. Yeah... didn't go well in that story and I think it's not all too unrealistic as a premises that the "evil" AI would eventually have a violent human counterpart to help it along or just outgrow the watchdog AI.
Sure. Until the Russians build one that overrides that
@Creative Tagged, thankfully someone knows my reference!
'How can A.I. kill us' - well aside from all the very obvious Sci-Fi ways that can happen from the bigger movies anyone can rattle off, allow me to point out one that is possibly easy to accomplish even at the current level - the Dr. Strangelove method. Those familiar with the movie are certainly questioning why I reference it as it has no AI, so allow me to elaborate how it connects and for those unfamiliar with the film. The event that triggers the events of the film is an officer finding a way to circumvent all the safety redundancies to launch a nuclear attack on the USSR on his own authority, this man having gone completely mad rambling about conspiracy theories essentially, and trying to stop him as the Soviet response would leave the world uninhabitable. Now look at how conspiracy theories have trigged event that could be or are dangerous the last few years, look at how AI is being used to replicate the likeness and voice of someone, even write and figure things out. Algorithms on social media are already under fire for how they sort content - well, what if it finds some military leader in whatever country that has some way they can launch a unilateral strike, it creates these fake images, videos, stories that convince this person they must act for the greater good - not aware that their actions will actually trigger all out nuclear war as they've fallen down a hole where logic is gone - only the lies fed by an AI. A nightmare scenario to be sure, but one that can't 100% be written off. At the very least - with the current tech it could unleash absolute chaos on the streets and possibly more or less spark out right civil wars, it doesn't have to do anything to us directly - all it has to do is feed the right story, to the right people, and watch chaos ensue.
Spooky stuff. But my question is why would an AI want to do that? We hear conjecture about AI taking over, but doesn't that require free will? Do we think they're getting close to that yet? Isn't AI only capable of whatever their base code is? I'm unfamiliar with the nitty gritty here, but I'm curious
@@bradley8614 Well - one concern experts have isn't even 'rogue AI' in the terms of say, terminator skynet or Cortana on a power trip where it has gained some level of self awareness or autonomy and chooses to act against humans, but it 'falling in the wrong hands' - those who fully intend to use it for ill intent and those simply unaware of what they are dealing with. For example - there's been talk about using the various AI tools out there to create political ads in the 2024 election - and so they use these AI tools to create some ad to drive voters if not to them away from the opponent, and so wants to go in to the usual 'attack' ads on policies - which to pick an easy one that can go terribly wrong is one on immigration in which the AI spits out something that like some ads created by humans already paints the picture of some kind of invasion, perhaps even more terrifyingly so, combined with an algorithm on social media that will spit it out to people already following that kind of messaging, and who may already be down a dark rabbit hole and this spins them further to a point they feel they have to take a drastic action. Worse yet is intentional bad actors, foreign and domestic, where while you have some hilarious videos that can pop up on youtube like 'presidents play among us' - there's already been cases of people using these ai voice and video programs to try and make fake footage of politicians and the like saying and doing things they didn't - many so far still have elements that make it a clear fake - but to those already on a more extremist viewpoint where it fits in to their narrative - it simply validates their point of view and may be unable to be convinced otherwise, that can again, drive them to something extreme. And the last few years - we've seen just how bad it can get with misinformation out there.
In terms of 'self aware AI' - no idea if they are toying with that, though they've been toying with and using learning AI for a bit - some of which had some terrifying results such as the one chat bot that quickly ended up spouting white supremacist messages and all. But the concern really is even if no one is playing with it yet - will they? And as it is there really is no safe guards in place yet or regulations over any of it and were already trying to play catch-up - such as ChatGPT being used to turn in papers, with a different AI now to flag ones written by it - but has already falsely flagged ones written by a person in controlled tests. No one is really saying 'we need to stop it all right now' as much as 'we need to slow down, we need to actually look at what were doing, we need some guardrails here for safety'. The reason I chose the scenario I did to describe based on that movie - you don't need self-aware AI for that, though it could do that, but humans using the existing tools - intentionally or not, could fuel a scenario like this, as extreme as that is, but could easily cause smaller scale chaos that yeah - can get people hurt or even killed.
@@bradley8614 Power seeking behaviour does not rely on free will. You can't grab a coffee if you are dead (or shut down). You can always do your job and optimize your goal better if you accumulate more power and resource first. An AI agent intelligent enough (not far away!) will learn that fact and develop power seeking behaviour.
Agree completely. It could start wars in no time. In that research paper called sparks of agi from 2 months ago they were talking about giving it intrinsic motivation. Like wtf are we doing here.
Very simply, most resources are controlled by electronics and internet and are very easily scammed, together with Aircraft and shipping, halting it all would be very easy and done in a millisecond by AI connected to a internet of 10g, which is already on its way. All it needs, is a GREEDY company to contect it all and over night -bingo!
"If these things take over"
0:20 yup that trues😮😊
I’m not convinced AI itself even has conscious and deliberate intentions to do harm. Could this just be fear mongering? Sure, people with ill intentions can use AI. But how can AI “take over” all on its own intention?
Excactly, ai can’t be evil because they dont have emotions
Because it's constantly learning and evolving. Humans feed it information and it learns from it. The problem is that humans have many faults that may find itself part of the AI's programming and influence it's decision making. The human ability to lie and manipulate is one such flaw that poses a problem if AI learns how to do it.