I completely agree with this, not just are they misunderstood, but have grown desperate. Despite the cataclysmic downfall of their civilization, and what we know, it's hard to determine exactly how much anger or sympathy we should have towards them. For one thing, the Traveler left them, as it has several other civilizations before. On the other hand, it has been stated that they had become hungry for power, and had constant in-fighting, which I would understand the Traveler retracting its light from them. It's definitely one of the better faction development Bungie has done.
@@declanfoster7720 I'm stoked to progress the Season of Splicer mission, especially to see how Saint-14 is being on the offense, but Mithrax is more than willing to stand for his people in a way that it doesn't antagonize Saint at all.
@@Moffee also Lakshmi blaming house light for stuff the darkness and house salvation for is BS, which makes me laugh and angry at the same time when I heard her talk about that stuff
@@Moffee uh, just so you know, Variks is not a Kell of House of Judgement, he was a Scribe, a rank unique to his house. He claims to also be the last surviving member of his house.
@@keulron2290 Taniks is not a baron, he's pretty much just a mercenary who doesn't care about the political ways of Eliksni/Fallen. Also, Scorn aren't considered Eliksni anymore so not sure if it counts.
small correction about the outcome of the Reef Wars, Variks was appointed to be the Warden of the Prison of Elders, Mara Sov became the Wolf Kell (Some Wolves refer to her as "Tiny Kell" in Forsaken lore tabs)
I think though, regardless of newcomers or vets, there's always more to learn about the lore and storyline, or even recent developments. Keeping everything at its core and remaining simple is one of the better ways to sort of allow everyone to understand the story at its best. How about you?
Exactly, I'm still shocked how you managed to keep everything so understandable, accurate, and intrigueing. Gives a very nice view of the world! I already sent it to two new lights I play with (the kind that skips cutscenes), and even they liked it!
Fallen are my favorite faction in destiny. ive loved their look (especially in destiny 1) and their lore was some of the first i read. Any time I'm able to hang around peaceful or friendly fallen always made my day.
I have played destiny for so long and it takes me so long to understand the lore, but thankfully this video does amazing at explaining things so well and slow that I’m able to actually comprehend the story. Man this video is underrated as heck!
'I have played destiny for so long and it takes me so long to unde-'. Destiny Feats thread, size of the [Garden] [Gardener]/[Winnower], etc etc etc etc.
I love this video, if you could, you should touch up on Eliksni before they were fallen aka before or during the whirlwind. I love Chelchis and his legendary sacrifice to try to save his kind before being taken by Oryx.
I’d like to add the before the Eliksni collapse everyone had all their arms and were as big as captains, their true form, but due to the shortage of Ether the docking tradition and rationing of ether came into play.
Indeed. as fellow Golden Age races of the Past. and an example for the Human Golden Age. Earth animal strengths being spliced to some members of Humanity. sounds a bit disgusting but there are reviews among such people back then having it now easy, Physically-speaking. like a Human-forklift kind of feats. anyways....
On an eliksni, only the bottom arms have the ability to regrow. Dregs have their bottom arms docked. Variks had his top pair of arms removed, which don't grow back
return to sender keep in mind that it was early on still that they were trying to structure on What the heck Destiny Lore was going to be. and that was probably an oversight (Variks'). And it wouldn't be that Hard to still find Eliksni 'energon' around the System if it was that easy to regrow Eliksni limbs once those Unnecessary Fallen docking limbs are out.
I actually would love to see canon art of their pre-whirlwind civilization, seeing the difference between how they treat the Traveler's light compared to the Guardians got me really curious.
Great video, although one minor detail; I believe after the Reef War, Mara was crowned Kell of Wolves, which is how she commanded them. Then after the Wolf rebellion Skills became Kell of Wolves and proclaimed to be the fabled Kell of Kells.
You kinda underplayed what uldren did to the Kings. Every remaining member of the House of Kings was murdered and then resurrected by the dark ether into the Scorn, they were eseentially all turned into rotting zombies to suffer in pain as their corrupted ether constantly mutates, twists and erodes their bodies. Some having to go so far as to nail or pin their own muscles to their bones because they're rotting off of their bodies. Even Kell of Kings, Crask, may have fallen victim to this fate as Uldren doesn't know if he was also killed or managed to escape alive after being docked of his arms and turned into a dreg.
Sorry to be that guy, but the thing about the House of Kings being responsible for the Battle of Twilight Gap is wrong. Solkis, Kell of Devils, was still alive at the time of the Battle. He organized the truce between Devils, Kings, and Winter, and the House of Devils led the assault on the city. It was only after Twilight Gap that Solkis was killed. Saint-14 vowed to never let the Fallen strike directly at the City again, resigned from his post as Titan Vanguard, and traveled Earth on a crusade against the House of Devils, culminating in his legendary fight with Solkis, where he famously dispatched the Kell with a neck-breaking headbutt.
@@Moffee "These are the scourge of the City, the shadow below our walls. This is the House that led the battle at the Twilight Gap, the House we tell our children about to frighten them into behaving." - House of Devils Grimoire card.
the Fallen House of kings are the in-the-shadows type of leadership behind most Fallen operations concerning of their still ongoing original purpose before being regressed to what they are Unfortunately now. controlling the devils, wolves, Winter, etc sometimes.
I liked in destiny 1 how every enemy from different factions had a different color and occasionally a different design, like with the Fallen, the devils wore red, kings wore a goldish yellow, etc. rather than every Fallen wearing the purple for house of dusk. Even the Vex had different kinds like Sol Primeval being the precursors, and Sol Imminent being the descendents (I know we have precursors and descendents in destiny 2 but it doesn't specify which faction the Vex belong to), I doubt it'll ever return because it's such a small detail that not a lot of people actually paid attention to, but I enjoyed it. If I'm wrong on anything feel free to let me know I guess.
The feeling's definitely mutual, they've stopped focusing on the detail of each faction, which is a real bummer since it was a huge factor in my interest in reading their lore.
So do the Ghosts of the very being they claimed on revering (assuming they did so during in *[Darkness Zones]* to be able to achieved both of the [Traveler]'s being Permanently killed) back then and still some Today. And by comparison, mostly Important for the Ghosts' lives that roguish Fallen members have kept Blindly interrupting their purpose in life. Sad as it is.
That's a great idea, do you have a specific one in mind to start with? Besides manufacturers there are also exotic weapons which has its own lore and backstory such as Thunderlords and Xenophage.
@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 You'd be surprised as to the backstory of some of the exotics, look around, maybe ask your clanmates or friends on Destiny, and they'll give you a starter on the stories. For example, Xenophage contains the soul of Eris Morn's fireteam member.
@@Moffee I have played now for quite some time and looked some stuff up and I think I found the right exotic: Crimson I mean the small flavortext of it is already special, stating that this gun isn't supposed to exist. Why? What? The amount of questions I have about this thing is IMMESURABLE!
I mean, if you compare it, we kind of already are. The only difference is the Traveler didn't leave us, yet. But then again, do you want to go through a second collapse, have the traveler leave us, drive potentially billions of human lives to their doom all to survive through scavenging?
I wish there was more stuff like this, imagine if you could pledge loyalty to the Vanguard, Crucible or Gambit, and those were the Three main houses, these houses then competed to prove strength and worthiness. This would be cool, as the Guardians would become a little more separated and there would be a clear line on where NPCs also stand, Ikora might join Shaxx, Osiris might join Zavala this then allows all the NPCs to now be more unique as there loyalties lei with one of the theee main houses.
And then there's the house of devils How many high ranking members have we killed again? I lost count after Riksis and Sepiks. Does Eramis or the splicers count? Because that just adds more to count.
With the return of Devil's Lair, killing Sepiks again adds to that, lol. But technically I don't think we can count in Eramis, there's been many speculations that she's still alive, just frozen in stasis.
There will always be new leaders. You can kill a House's Kell, Archon, and Prime Servitor, but as long as the House remains intact, new leaders will rise, and Servitors can always be rebuilt.
I know this was six months ago but ether is actually food and hormones for fallen and they have to ration the ether bc of how low on they all are but if they didn't have to ration all fallen would look like captains or higher
This made me realize how fast our dumbass managed to dismantle the house of devils. We killed its archon in our second mission, causing a few problems. Then we killed Sepiks and im guessing they went into a pretty big panic. We woke up and within a few days of oyr existence we destroyed a fallen house that was giving the city so much trouble
I/we (and Don't Forget: Help by some Lightbearer Guardians and Human supplies along the way) destroyed the *heads* . the *armies* that follow those Tyrannical heads those are still at large.... and the severed leadership in no time would be replaced anyways Unfortunately.
Archon Priest, Kell, Prime Servitor are the triumvirate of a House, whereas Barons serve as the internal commanders of sort. As stated, they are noble captains who have grown stronger and are generally seen to have the potential to be the Kell or Archon Priests.
The Lore about them and how there are also good fallen like Mithrax is so nice and we might have an alliance with fallen like we have with the cabal now
after learning more about their lore i have begun to understand them more. but if I were in the shoes of humanity in the d2 universe I would have little sympathy for them, they were the aggressors, they have been terrorizing humanity out of their own desperation for centuries, they are the reason why humans are living within the wall. why didn't they settle things peacefully in the first place?
When one adapts to scavenging, in-fighting, and survival, one loses their sense of humility, patience, and openness to communication, tunnel visioning only to survival. But as we've seen with both Variks and Mithrax, it takes only a moment for us, but to them, a lifestyle of pain and suffering to move past what they've been through. It is true that their downfall can be attributed to their lack of communication and frequent infighting, but what they have achieved with the Traveler, we can only hope to achieve in the future. I really hope they develop the current storyline, because it really shows the two disciples of the traveler side by side, and for a long time coming, as allies.
@@Moffee agreed! i appreciate the writing they did, as they didnt really hold back, they have shown both sides of the story, the good and the bad. although i feel the actions of the fallen are less justified, i wish to see how the story would countinue and fulfill their "redemption arc" or.... maybe they would make a huge twist, who knows? so far i have been staying away from all the datamined stuff, so i could enjoy the experience more.
@@namisauce9826 I would have no problem with most of the Eliksni House of Light. the problem of course: Why is bungie just writing off Eliksni Lore during [Season of the Splicers] as if them tormenting our mortal members of a once peace of a time Age in this System never happened? misleading for most newcomers on the surface (Destiny in-Game Campaign Only) alone. if not heard about whatever atrocities that the Fallen have commited during their violent arrival (their small part of the Collapse)/Golden Age cities that still stands like London only for the non- *[Darkness]* associated new races more Insult to our Injury, the Dark Age (Humanity refugees and careless Ghosts alike), the Battle of Six Fronts, Battle of Twilight Gap, etc, return of SIVA situation, etc.
@@Moffee 'but what they have achieved with the [Traveler]-'?.... the two students? Golden Age Humanity and Golden Age Eliksni? or is it Variks and -Misraaks?- ....
for someone who has no idea about destiny lore other than cayde dying and the red war due to the campaign mission, this is a great guide to faction lore.
@@Moffee Are you guys planning on doing a lore bit for the iron warlords? I know they are guardians but saladin is the only iron lod ive seen and is felwinter a cyborg?
@@srkquad4519 You'd like for us to cover the Iron Lords? Sure thing, bud, and no Saladin isn't the last Iron Lord, there is another. A hunter named Lady Efrideet who was spared from participating in the battle that nearly wiped out the Iron Lords. As for Felwinter, he is an Exo, yes, created by the Warmind, Rasputin in order to gather information of the outside world. Both of which have very interesting storyline developments, IMO.
@@Moffee Yeah of course! 6:13 Variks isn't really considered the Kell of Judgement during his time at the reef or before. He later gives himself the title of Kell before starting the riot at the Prison of Elders 9:32 Variks isn't crowned Kell of Kells at this time. He begins calling himself this just before starting the riot at the prison of elders. At this time Mara Sov became the Kell of Wolves, Variks served Mara as Kell, not as a kell himself. Side note: Variks abandons his titles given to himself and instead joins Eramis and House Savlation on Europa when Eramis recruits him.
True, but we've yet to see if they have an Archon or a Prime servitor. I mean you can see it as the House of Spider, which can make Spider himself a Kell. Edit: Probably the reason why Spider was somewhat pissed that we took Crow back was that he was preparing him to be the Archon for House of Spider, lol.
Considering that they have more commonly used Shock Blades and Shrapnel launchers which are rare in vandals, yes, I would say they are considered a higher tier compared to Vandals who are the foot soldiers.
Buff Lord Shaxx isn't real, He can't hurt you.
Buff Lord Shaxx: 9:51
Buff Lord Shaxx has always been real.... however, BUFFER Lord Shaxx on the other hand, that’s a whole new bag of Dreg arms
@@ryantherainwing9248 excuse me, but did you say “bag of dreg arms”
@@noahleonard2481 did I stutter?
@@ryantherainwing9248 no I suppose you didn’t
He ate all the grenades
The fallen are just misunderstood. I just love the idea of the house of light.
I completely agree with this, not just are they misunderstood, but have grown desperate. Despite the cataclysmic downfall of their civilization, and what we know, it's hard to determine exactly how much anger or sympathy we should have towards them.
For one thing, the Traveler left them, as it has several other civilizations before. On the other hand, it has been stated that they had become hungry for power, and had constant in-fighting, which I would understand the Traveler retracting its light from them.
It's definitely one of the better faction development Bungie has done.
Good thing Mithrax comes back now with next Season :D
this aged pretty good
@@declanfoster7720 I'm stoked to progress the Season of Splicer mission, especially to see how Saint-14 is being on the offense, but Mithrax is more than willing to stand for his people in a way that it doesn't antagonize Saint at all.
@@Moffee also Lakshmi blaming house light for stuff the darkness and house salvation for is BS, which makes me laugh and angry at the same time when I heard her talk about that stuff
This is a brilliant guide to the fallen and would be great to newcomers as its informative and simplistic. Also the drawings are cute.
Thanks, we're covering the lore for the entire Destiny universe, let us know if you'd like for us to look into other games lore as well!
@@Moffee uh, just so you know, Variks is not a Kell of House of Judgement, he was a Scribe, a rank unique to his house. He claims to also be the last surviving member of his house.
"There are no known independent Barons"
**laughs in Scorn**
I was going to say that Greyliks from the Summoning Pits strike is an Exiled Baron as well.
Wasn't Taniks also independent? Or was he House Devil?
@@keulron2290 Taniks was originally from the House of Scars
@@Kell_Craask Ah.
@@keulron2290 Taniks is not a baron, he's pretty much just a mercenary who doesn't care about the political ways of Eliksni/Fallen.
Also, Scorn aren't considered Eliksni anymore so not sure if it counts.
I love how you draw Shaxx with the same body shape as kingpin from Into The Spiderverse
You see spidey that isn't very wholesome 100 of ya!
Fallen houses: exist
Saint 14: yeah, that's gonna be no for me.
small correction about the outcome of the Reef Wars, Variks was appointed to be the Warden of the Prison of Elders, Mara Sov became the Wolf Kell (Some Wolves refer to her as "Tiny Kell" in Forsaken lore tabs)
otherwise amazing video love the artstyle
Oops, thanks for the correction! Apologies for the error!
Huh. No wonder the warden’s servitor sounds a lot like Variks.
Accurate Shaxx drawing makes me chortle.
We got an accurate representation of when he was still in-season with his bulking routine.
Those little Dregs and Vandals are so cute, and now I feel bad for Dregs whenever I kill them.
Everytime I feel sympathy for them, I just jump into a Grandmaster Nightfall with Fallen enemies, and get reminded why I should hate them.
@@Moffee well canonically the Fallen ate babies during the collapse, so no reason to feel bad for them
@@DakkaSolae But c'mon, you can't look at that animated Dreg and not feel bad for'em.
@@DakkaSolae Yeah but Guardians have killed Eliksni hatchlings too
saint didn't
Why is this being recommended to me so late. I love this. Its simple and the drawings are adorable
I'm glad we got a video of the tribes of the fallen, I been waiting for years lol
Okay, what the hell. I'm a lore guy, and this video is the definition of beauty in simplicity. Perfect for both newcomers and vets. Sub
I think though, regardless of newcomers or vets, there's always more to learn about the lore and storyline, or even recent developments. Keeping everything at its core and remaining simple is one of the better ways to sort of allow everyone to understand the story at its best. How about you?
Exactly, I'm still shocked how you managed to keep everything so understandable, accurate, and intrigueing. Gives a very nice view of the world! I already sent it to two new lights I play with (the kind that skips cutscenes), and even they liked it!
I think you inspired Bungie to show fallen babies based of the dregs
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen. I can’t get over how adorable the little fallen are.
Fallen are my favorite faction in destiny. ive loved their look (especially in destiny 1) and their lore was some of the first i read. Any time I'm able to hang around peaceful or friendly fallen always made my day.
Are you an entomologist by trade?
As someone that is writing a book with fallen/Eliksni, this video really helps. Can't wait to see what else you make!
Glad you like it, and by writing a book, will it be published anywhere public?
Yanno for creatures that eat children I love these dregs... THESE FALLEN ARE FRICKIN ADORABLE!!
Nice video can’t wait for part 2!
Hi there, thanks so much for the comment, we're currently working on animating part 2, so stay tuned!
dude this is super good i cant believe it only has 1k views
I have played destiny for so long and it takes me so long to understand the lore, but thankfully this video does amazing at explaining things so well and slow that I’m able to actually comprehend the story. Man this video is underrated as heck!
'I have played destiny for so long and it takes me so long to unde-'.
Destiny Feats thread, size of the [Garden] [Gardener]/[Winnower], etc etc etc etc.
there is more where that comes from.
I love this video, if you could, you should touch up on Eliksni before they were fallen aka before or during the whirlwind. I love Chelchis and his legendary sacrifice to try to save his kind before being taken by Oryx.
Alright this man needs more clout. This man has some amazing content.
I love the way the dregs are playing with Saint 14's titan bubble
This video was fire!!! U are underrated as helllll
Hey there, Jk, thanks for the comment, haha, we've just started the channel, and slowly building up. Your compliment is much appreciated!
dreg and vandal transfusion is soo cute >w< 1:52
The question here is, is it a legit Dragon Ball Fusion, or is the following Captain a result of the Dreg and Vandal having kids?
This is my new favorite channel😤😤
Found this in my recommended, it needs more attention.
I’d like to add the before the Eliksni collapse everyone had all their arms and were as big as captains, their true form, but due to the shortage of Ether the docking tradition and rationing of ether came into play.
Indeed. as fellow Golden Age races of the Past.
and an example for the Human Golden Age. Earth animal strengths being spliced to some members of Humanity. sounds a bit disgusting but there are reviews among such people back then having it now easy, Physically-speaking. like a Human-forklift kind of feats.
anyways....
7:33 yup. Wouldn't want to offend any eliksni would we?
I wouldn't want to offend that specific eliksni that they use as their poster boy, though.
Only 100 subs? For this quality? You need more.
2:58 if dregs can regrow their arms why does variks have prosthetics? Unless the regrowth takes many years?
Perhaps there's a form of physical limitation due to aging, similar to how humans are?
@@Moffee its probably because of the lack of ether Variks is consuming since there is no Servitor to supply said ether to him.
On an eliksni, only the bottom arms have the ability to regrow. Dregs have their bottom arms docked. Variks had his top pair of arms removed, which don't grow back
return to sender keep in mind that it was early on still that they were trying to structure on What the heck Destiny Lore was going to be.
and that was probably an oversight (Variks').
And it wouldn't be that Hard to still find Eliksni 'energon' around the System if it was that easy to regrow Eliksni limbs once those Unnecessary Fallen docking limbs are out.
I really enjoyed this video. I can't believe this doesn't have more views. You deserve it.
Thank you for the kind words, we're a fairly new channel, so we're definitely working from scratch.
8:26 "duEl"
Bro underrated
Literally finally a channel with animation ... close enough still good shit my guy
The only good fallen is a dead fallen - this post was made by Scorn gang
Do I know you?
The only good fallen are chelchis and mithrax
T. S. sounds....goblin slayer-worded.
yes, I see a bit of similarly, no offense.
2:26 Spider is the Baron of the Tangled shore. Granted, it's self-assigned, but he's an independent baron.
He's a strong and independent baron Spider.
@@Moffee He's got good body image too.
“Apologies if I mispronounced that” ARE THERE ELIKSNI IN THIS AUDIENCE
We never know where they may be watching from.
You definitely earned my sub! Great work love it!
I love your art Style, please keep making videos like this.Altough i know some storys of D2 i still watch ya vid's cause of the art Style
This channel is genius for destiny lore.
Aww they look so cute, I'm gonna show this to my kids, I'm sure they gonna love it
I LOVE THE ART. Thank you for the video :)
This is well explained hope you do a video about the origin of fallen civilization and the the Whirlwind event
I actually would love to see canon art of their pre-whirlwind civilization, seeing the difference between how they treat the Traveler's light compared to the Guardians got me really curious.
@@Moffee you mean they and P-GA/GA Humanity, yes.
THEN it is the [Sky]'s Lightbearer Guardians After, and then the reactions came.
As someone who is a visionary learner this helps
love this way of explaining
Even though i know all of this, I love watching this
Great video, although one minor detail; I believe after the Reef War, Mara was crowned Kell of Wolves, which is how she commanded them. Then after the Wolf rebellion Skills became Kell of Wolves and proclaimed to be the fabled Kell of Kells.
Thank you for the correction, we definitely goofed on that part.
Oh my god. This is SOOOOOOO GOOOD. You sir got yourself a like and a comment! :D love the artstyle
HOW IS THIS CHANNEL SO SMALL???? Keep up the good work!
You kinda underplayed what uldren did to the Kings.
Every remaining member of the House of Kings was murdered and then resurrected by the dark ether into the Scorn, they were eseentially all turned into rotting zombies to suffer in pain as their corrupted ether constantly mutates, twists and erodes their bodies. Some having to go so far as to nail or pin their own muscles to their bones because they're rotting off of their bodies.
Even Kell of Kings, Crask, may have fallen victim to this fate as Uldren doesn't know if he was also killed or managed to escape alive after being docked of his arms and turned into a dreg.
hopefully refuged among the House of Light Eliksni. more secretive than Namraask's, a former Murderous lead head in Fallen's part during the Collapse.
this is great! im for sure going to watch the rest of your videos, all the figures are so cute
Thank you, youtube recommendations
Sorry to be that guy, but the thing about the House of Kings being responsible for the Battle of Twilight Gap is wrong.
Solkis, Kell of Devils, was still alive at the time of the Battle. He organized the truce between Devils, Kings, and Winter, and the House of Devils led the assault on the city. It was only after Twilight Gap that Solkis was killed. Saint-14 vowed to never let the Fallen strike directly at the City again, resigned from his post as Titan Vanguard, and traveled Earth on a crusade against the House of Devils, culminating in his legendary fight with Solkis, where he famously dispatched the Kell with a neck-breaking headbutt.
Hi Alex, which grimoire explained this? Or was this a dialogue within the game?
@@Moffee "These are the scourge of the City, the shadow below our walls. This is the House that led the battle at the Twilight Gap, the House we tell our children about to frighten them into behaving." - House of Devils Grimoire card.
the Fallen House of kings are the in-the-shadows type of leadership behind most Fallen operations concerning of their still ongoing original purpose before being regressed to what they are Unfortunately now.
controlling the devils, wolves, Winter, etc sometimes.
Wait, Variks is the Kell of Judgment?
I though Judgment had no Kells, the point being they were to remain neutral between the houses
He’d kinda have to be considering he’s the only remaining member
I’d like to see some talk about the Kell’s Scourge, SotP was one of my favourite raids but sadly I do t know much about the house itself.
Interesting idea, since Insurrection Prime is the very first Brig of its kind.
it is not a proper Fallen or Eliksni House. they are like Spider's, a mercenary group.
This is so good dude
Great Lord Shaxx isn't real, he can't commit warcrimes against the fallen.
Great Lord Shaxx: 9:50
excellent video, simple and adorable. subbed
I liked in destiny 1 how every enemy from different factions had a different color and occasionally a different design, like with the Fallen, the devils wore red, kings wore a goldish yellow, etc. rather than every Fallen wearing the purple for house of dusk. Even the Vex had different kinds like Sol Primeval being the precursors, and Sol Imminent being the descendents (I know we have precursors and descendents in destiny 2 but it doesn't specify which faction the Vex belong to), I doubt it'll ever return because it's such a small detail that not a lot of people actually paid attention to, but I enjoyed it. If I'm wrong on anything feel free to let me know I guess.
The feeling's definitely mutual, they've stopped focusing on the detail of each faction, which is a real bummer since it was a huge factor in my interest in reading their lore.
I really like the drawings lmao
I've killed so many servitors but this whole time I didn't even know they produced ether.
Would you say it's the equivalent of deforestation? or legal logging?
@@Moffee Honest, officer. I didn't know they were helping the environment. This is all a big misunderstanding.
@@randybutternubs4647 To be fair, them shielding the shooters that were shooting up a school was not anti-environment, but it was anti-human.
So do the Ghosts of the very being they claimed on revering (assuming they did so during in *[Darkness Zones]* to be able to achieved both of the [Traveler]'s being Permanently killed) back then and still some Today.
And by comparison, mostly Important for the Ghosts' lives that roguish Fallen members have kept Blindly interrupting their purpose in life. Sad as it is.
I have an idea for a lore vid: the various weapon manufacturers like häkke, Suros, omolon e.t.c. after you did all the factions.
That's a great idea, do you have a specific one in mind to start with? Besides manufacturers there are also exotic weapons which has its own lore and backstory such as Thunderlords and Xenophage.
@@Moffee for manufacturers I'd suggest Häkke. When it comes to exotics, I have no idea since I don't have many.
@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 You'd be surprised as to the backstory of some of the exotics, look around, maybe ask your clanmates or friends on Destiny, and they'll give you a starter on the stories. For example, Xenophage contains the soul of Eris Morn's fireteam member.
@@Moffee I have played now for quite some time and looked some stuff up and I think I found the right exotic: Crimson
I mean the small flavortext of it is already special, stating that this gun isn't supposed to exist. Why? What? The amount of questions I have about this thing is IMMESURABLE!
Yes Fallen lore
I wish we could play as a fallen
I mean, if you compare it, we kind of already are. The only difference is the Traveler didn't leave us, yet.
But then again, do you want to go through a second collapse, have the traveler leave us, drive potentially billions of human lives to their doom all to survive through scavenging?
I wish there was more stuff like this, imagine if you could pledge loyalty to the Vanguard, Crucible or Gambit, and those were the Three main houses, these houses then competed to prove strength and worthiness. This would be cool, as the Guardians would become a little more separated and there would be a clear line on where NPCs also stand, Ikora might join Shaxx, Osiris might join Zavala this then allows all the NPCs to now be more unique as there loyalties lei with one of the theee main houses.
Literally years into playing this game I still didn't know any of this stuff besides what kells were. Nice storytelling bungie.
literally try paying attention.
moffee predicted smollen confirmed
Funny fallen
Fallen has always been one of my personal favorite enemy factions, ngl.
89 subs
Video quality of a 2 million subscriber channel
Thank you very much for the compliment, we're definitely grinding out the videos to give everyone more content.
@@Moffee i have question about the fallen houses?
House of stone: went out like chads
Rest in piece, Chadchis of the House of Stone.
And they all seen to live for 5 minutes when facing players
'thanks' for the Gameplay mechanics of them spawning more over and over again until one gets bored....
that would be no concern it seems.
Idk if he is but I think spider is a baron, but crow probably just calls him that cause he has the power and size of one
Love them so much.
i gave up on understanding destiny lore im glad i found this guy, easy to follow great video and channel idea man
And then there's the house of devils
How many high ranking members have we killed again? I lost count after Riksis and Sepiks.
Does Eramis or the splicers count? Because that just adds more to count.
With the return of Devil's Lair, killing Sepiks again adds to that, lol.
But technically I don't think we can count in Eramis, there's been many speculations that she's still alive, just frozen in stasis.
There will always be new leaders. You can kill a House's Kell, Archon, and Prime Servitor, but as long as the House remains intact, new leaders will rise, and Servitors can always be rebuilt.
All Fallen or Eliksni Houses have Splicers.
I mean... He can hold his own with his fists alone, so Shaxx is pretty accurate.
The house of devils after I’ve killed their Kell, their archon and their prime Servitor 16 000 000 times
I know this was six months ago but ether is actually food and hormones for fallen and they have to ration the ether bc of how low on they all are but if they didn't have to ration all fallen would look like captains or higher
It is also like cybertronian energon.
Some of this is wrong. But overall it has a lot of good info.
This made me realize how fast our dumbass managed to dismantle the house of devils. We killed its archon in our second mission, causing a few problems. Then we killed Sepiks and im guessing they went into a pretty big panic. We woke up and within a few days of oyr existence we destroyed a fallen house that was giving the city so much trouble
Destiny, a.k.a World Record Speedrun Homewrecker Simulator.
I/we (and Don't Forget: Help by some Lightbearer Guardians and Human supplies along the way) destroyed the *heads* .
the *armies* that follow those Tyrannical heads those are still at large.... and the severed leadership in no time would be replaced anyways Unfortunately.
Also a Baron or Baroness is a higher rank than an Archon Priest. They are most often the right-hand of the Kell.
Archon Priest, Kell, Prime Servitor are the triumvirate of a House, whereas Barons serve as the internal commanders of sort. As stated, they are noble captains who have grown stronger and are generally seen to have the potential to be the Kell or Archon Priests.
The Lore about them and how there are also good fallen like Mithrax is so nice and we might have an alliance with fallen like we have with the cabal now
Define 'alliance' with the Cabal empire?....
Damn this is really well done
House dusk is not its own house but a combo of all the remaining houses
And being a dreg is a demotion from vandel not a entry level position
And chelches was the kell of all not just stone although he did come from stone
after learning more about their lore i have begun to understand them more. but if I were in the shoes of humanity in the d2 universe I would have little sympathy for them, they were the aggressors, they have been terrorizing humanity out of their own desperation for centuries, they are the reason why humans are living within the wall. why didn't they settle things peacefully in the first place?
When one adapts to scavenging, in-fighting, and survival, one loses their sense of humility, patience, and openness to communication, tunnel visioning only to survival. But as we've seen with both Variks and Mithrax, it takes only a moment for us, but to them, a lifestyle of pain and suffering to move past what they've been through.
It is true that their downfall can be attributed to their lack of communication and frequent infighting, but what they have achieved with the Traveler, we can only hope to achieve in the future. I really hope they develop the current storyline, because it really shows the two disciples of the traveler side by side, and for a long time coming, as allies.
@@Moffee agreed! i appreciate the writing they did, as they didnt really hold back, they have shown both sides of the story, the good and the bad. although i feel the actions of the fallen are less justified, i wish to see how the story would countinue and fulfill their "redemption arc" or.... maybe they would make a huge twist, who knows? so far i have been staying away from all the datamined stuff, so i could enjoy the experience more.
@@namisauce9826 Bungie, please let us play as a Smallen
@@namisauce9826 I would have no problem with most of the Eliksni House of Light.
the problem of course: Why is bungie just writing off Eliksni Lore during [Season of the Splicers] as if them tormenting our mortal members of a once peace of a time Age in this System never happened?
misleading for most newcomers on the surface (Destiny in-Game Campaign Only) alone. if not heard about whatever atrocities that the Fallen have commited during their violent arrival (their small part of the Collapse)/Golden Age cities that still stands like London only for the non- *[Darkness]* associated new races more Insult to our Injury, the Dark Age (Humanity refugees and careless Ghosts alike), the Battle of Six Fronts, Battle of Twilight Gap, etc, return of SIVA situation, etc.
@@Moffee 'but what they have achieved with the [Traveler]-'?....
the two students? Golden Age Humanity and Golden Age Eliksni? or is it Variks and -Misraaks?- ....
for someone who has no idea about destiny lore other than cayde dying and the red war due to the campaign mission, this is a great guide to faction lore.
We enjoy digging into the history and lore of various stuff, so give us a recommendation on which faction you'd like us to look up!
@@Moffee Are you guys planning on doing a lore bit for the iron warlords? I know they are guardians but saladin is the only iron lod ive seen and is felwinter a cyborg?
@@srkquad4519 You'd like for us to cover the Iron Lords? Sure thing, bud, and no Saladin isn't the last Iron Lord, there is another. A hunter named Lady Efrideet who was spared from participating in the battle that nearly wiped out the Iron Lords.
As for Felwinter, he is an Exo, yes, created by the Warmind, Rasputin in order to gather information of the outside world.
Both of which have very interesting storyline developments, IMO.
@@Moffee Thank you for clearing everything up.
Can you do other races/species? Vex, Cabal, Hive
Cute informative and underrated af
A couple of very minor lore mistakes but still a great video! Keep it up!
Hi, mind letting us know which parts?
@@Moffee Yeah of course!
6:13 Variks isn't really considered the Kell of Judgement during his time at the reef or before. He later gives himself the title of Kell before starting the riot at the Prison of Elders
9:32 Variks isn't crowned Kell of Kells at this time. He begins calling himself this just before starting the riot at the prison of elders. At this time Mara Sov became the Kell of Wolves, Variks served Mara as Kell, not as a kell himself.
Side note: Variks abandons his titles given to himself and instead joins Eramis and House Savlation on Europa when Eramis recruits him.
Max oh yes. Happens All the time for our current situation in sharing this franchise's towards others....
I'm pretty sure that Spider is an independent Baron
True, but we've yet to see if they have an Archon or a Prime servitor. I mean you can see it as the House of Spider, which can make Spider himself a Kell.
Edit: Probably the reason why Spider was somewhat pissed that we took Crow back was that he was preparing him to be the Archon for House of Spider, lol.
I wish you said something like “but none of this matters if you were house of light because the guardians would protect you like shields”
My boi Mithrax gotchu, fam.
define the quote? [hummed curiously trying to identify]
Cute drawings but surprised there isn't as much popularity
Thank you very much for the kind thought, we had just begun, so we're definitely looking at growth.
Hmm. What about Marauders? Are they just a type of Vandal or some other status?
Marauders seem to be more of a class of assassins rather than a rank, though, what is interesting is that only a select few houses have them.
i love this so much! you clearly did your research, and you've been open to any corrections made by others. keep it up man!!
Thank you very much, we do try our best to keep to what has been made canon, but we are also open to fanmade lore too.
Part 2 please!!!!
so vandals who have their secondary arms still cutoff, are in a punisment by choice or still growing back?
It's more of to limit the vandals. They're only allowed to grow them back once they've proven themselves worthy. Purely tradition based practices.
Omg this is so good
Variks was a Kell? I thought he was an Archon or something, he’s just so short compared to other known Kells-
Are you kel-height shaming him?
@@Moffee No, I’m just saying he’s a lot shorter than other Kells I’ve seen, such as Eramis for example, and it took me by surprise-
What about Marauders are they above Vandals?
Considering that they have more commonly used Shock Blades and Shrapnel launchers which are rare in vandals, yes, I would say they are considered a higher tier compared to Vandals who are the foot soldiers.
@@Moffee Thanks I also forgot about the Wretch's who use the big shock spears I'm guessing their above Vandals but below Marauders.
@@jj.jayjay. They could be the equivalent of shock troopers or specialized infantries.
What about the house of light?
They forgot to pay for the electricity bills, so Bungie had to put them out temporarily.
( we have part 2 for that house)
I didn’t know fallen could be demoted
I guess you could say, it signifies the Fallen's fall from grace.