The Tube Sock Killer

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  • @evans134
    @evans134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9112

    I'm gonna get you ghost face 6:40

    • @mrfrost4064
      @mrfrost4064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +279

      One day I’ll be on time

    • @heather_whatever
      @heather_whatever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Great job!! 👍🏻

    • @mattbourgoyne3613
      @mattbourgoyne3613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      After going back to take a look that fella looked like a nat on my phone playing peek a boo or something

    • @Michellee970
      @Michellee970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      SCREAM, dude!

    • @creepercolton0854
      @creepercolton0854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Grrr, I was just coming it take my prize 😂

  • @BFox843
    @BFox843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4265

    The phrase, "Mommy's in the trees" is haunting as hell.

    • @technicalout9547
      @technicalout9547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      Sooo frightening. The visuals I got were awful.

    • @Siile_
      @Siile_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      For sure, straight out of a horror movie

    • @NoNo-hi2qc
      @NoNo-hi2qc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      "Mommy is in the trees" reminds me of "Their in the trees!"

    • @noahnoah2747
      @noahnoah2747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@NoNo-hi2qc from what?

    • @xhdjssisks1850
      @xhdjssisks1850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@noahnoah2747 a lot more than a little while I think it's good to work for you to be a bit late 🤍👍🛎️🛎️🛎️

  • @leonardoramirez3903
    @leonardoramirez3903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3614

    “If you live in the Pacific Northwest of the United States...”
    me: Aw fuck

    • @b226tj
      @b226tj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Don't worry, here on the East Coast (TN) we have creepy stuff as well, I was once walking along a tree line and heard an animal walking by the tree line; Still don't know what it was but I think it took one of my cats.

    • @masteryoda2861
      @masteryoda2861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      B226 T&J wait your saying a animal killed your cat

    • @b226tj
      @b226tj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@masteryoda2861 I think so, we live in a very rural area and at first we thought it was a coyote but I'm not so sure now.

    • @masteryoda2861
      @masteryoda2861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      B226 T&J well coyotes sometimes attack cats and dogs when their in the woods and sometimes attack them in the backyard their living in so I would say it was a coyote

    • @b226tj
      @b226tj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@masteryoda2861 I thought I mentioned this earlier, but it sounded very large definitely bigger than a coyote. I only heard it's footsteps, but it still scared me because the cat that went missing around that time was known to be able to fight just about anything.

  • @TheNesapotamia
    @TheNesapotamia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5571

    "If he's dead that calls into question his ability to do these crimes". That's some top-notch detective work, right there.

    • @vaiteatefan4761
      @vaiteatefan4761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      😂😂😂

    • @omotayoajose3751
      @omotayoajose3751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Homer simpson style 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @nighthawk154
      @nighthawk154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      He could’ve killed himself afterward or he was dead during the other killings which is why it LEADS TO QUESTION it 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @brendonjones4948
      @brendonjones4948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Possesion

    • @ztm9551
      @ztm9551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But then why other murders

  • @Gawlakman
    @Gawlakman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1245

    The fact that some of these stories involve murders where the killer is still at large is terrifying

    • @koheletsmoger2327
      @koheletsmoger2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      lets just hope none of us are in Mr Ballen's stories

    • @sixthhaddock8216
      @sixthhaddock8216 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@koheletsmoger2327 And let's hope that the family gets closure one day.

    • @grajammellor660
      @grajammellor660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yeh the fact he could be sat getting a buzz off listening to his story on Mr ballen

    • @nathanallen8703
      @nathanallen8703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You’re telling me I live in Tacoma 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

    • @geemonster9179
      @geemonster9179 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I have a friend in Oregon who i'm going to visit in the near future, and i've always loved the wilderness and forests, but i wouldn't stay out there unless we had at least one weapon between us

  • @evanosburn718
    @evanosburn718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4548

    Police in 1986: Dude definitely did it, close the case
    Police in 2011: I've always had doubts about that case

    • @teagueturner2552
      @teagueturner2552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Too true

    • @TheDreadedJuggernaut
      @TheDreadedJuggernaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      It was more logical at the time because he was nowhere to be seen. After time passes and he's still not been located at all, it becomes more likely he's deceased.
      When it comes to serial killers, the only real way to catch them is red handed, forensics, or most likely eye witnesses. Much better for the public to draw a logical conclusion then let the news publish about an unknown serial killer.

    • @Steenpunk
      @Steenpunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teagueturner2552 now you’re w red

    • @Georgica284
      @Georgica284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was born in 2011

    • @current9300
      @current9300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Huge amount of police work where conclusive evidence isn't found is usually "I dunno, maybe it's like this, it's most likely I guess" territory when cases are closed.

  • @jerryhamer
    @jerryhamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8779

    This dude must have a great memory. He tells these stories like he was there.

    • @marlonius05
      @marlonius05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2233

      the script is bottom left... you can see his eyes dart towards his right several times...

    • @calibre_official7387
      @calibre_official7387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +365

      I'd you play among us you'll understand. Mr.ballen kinda sus

    • @QuestionThings123
      @QuestionThings123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +555

      Do you not pay attention to how many edits you see in his videos? I guarantee he remembers it all in short burts, then edits it all together well. He is good though, not knocking his storytelling any.

    • @discoguy5878
      @discoguy5878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      He reads a script my brother

    • @jackfitzpatrick668
      @jackfitzpatrick668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      And do you not notice the cuts?

  • @yourmicrowave7997
    @yourmicrowave7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5217

    this guy was a eye witness for every single story he tells i swear

    • @tough1231
      @tough1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +517

      Nah bro he was in the trees writing it down navy seals style

    • @JJCG4MES
      @JJCG4MES 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      He knows all

    • @thedemomanclassfromtf2402
      @thedemomanclassfromtf2402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      He was the dad the crocadiles the diver in all of those army groups all of it

    • @hamoodali9347
      @hamoodali9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      He is google hahahaha

    • @GeekRaj
      @GeekRaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      yeah lol he tells it like he was there.

  • @lisahinton9682
    @lisahinton9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1018

    Today in 2022, the little baby would be about 39. I hope she's living a great, happy, healthy life. She no-doubt witnessed some terrifying situations out there in the woods that day.

    • @pitchblack2304
      @pitchblack2304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Crazy stuff, I'm in the pacific northwest, Seattle to be exact, my wife is 39 and my names mike...dunno why I had to say that.

    • @MommyTiffany
      @MommyTiffany 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@pitchblack2304 I just told my husband that we're never going camping near that river. Ever.

    • @pitchblack2304
      @pitchblack2304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@MommyTiffany not without a big group lol

    • @TyeArtisik
      @TyeArtisik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, I'm sure she's good

    • @userunknown1578
      @userunknown1578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@pitchblack2304 Dude might have to bring a whole pack of tube socks.

  • @robinwagoner7217
    @robinwagoner7217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2081

    How sad, for all these years everyone considered him a murderer, maybe even his own family.

    • @charlotte6154
      @charlotte6154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      0-0

    • @thelikebutton7290
      @thelikebutton7290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      🥺🥺

    • @thecaribou8833
      @thecaribou8833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      The elders likely died thinkimg that and hating him too :/

    • @charlotte6154
      @charlotte6154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      omg 600th like 0-0

    • @negroleague2
      @negroleague2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@thecaribou8833 Then they met him in heaven and said "Hey what are you doing here?"

  • @ayanna.h.lanette
    @ayanna.h.lanette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4395

    When I saw the title, I immediately assumed a guy was really out here beating people to death with a butter sock.

    • @piti7102
      @piti7102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      Same! I had to make myself listen to the beginning seriously because I kept waiting for them to discover a sock covered in melted butter...

    • @_Curanes_Rex
      @_Curanes_Rex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      I imagined a guy standing there with red-white tubesocks, an axe and nothing else...

    • @ayanna.h.lanette
      @ayanna.h.lanette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@_Curanes_Rex Oof, I think yours is more terrifying, the last moments of his victims would have a whole other level of discomdort and fear😭😬😬

    • @jimiesoteric2417
      @jimiesoteric2417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Lmao butter sock

    • @itsbecky_13
      @itsbecky_13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      Sam Puckett is the murderer 😂😂

  • @iamiski8822
    @iamiski8822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7316

    channel teaches me a lot of things: no caving, no diving, no woods at night and no working in the middle of the sea.

    • @tracemullen1812
      @tracemullen1812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +316

      The woods alone at night is definitely much sketchier after watching mr ballens video😂 I always think I'm gonna be the next missing 411

    • @starmunching
      @starmunching 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      I read this as "no walking in the middle of the sea" and I was like
      .....duh
      😂😂

    • @Silas-lc9op
      @Silas-lc9op 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      And if you do have to go into the woods... have a lot of weapons, knives, grenades, trip wire, C4

    • @Silas-lc9op
      @Silas-lc9op 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@starmunching Definitely dont want to walk in the middle of the sea. Its not a good idea 😁

    • @enevy3165
      @enevy3165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      No caving, no diving, no cave diving, never buy a house that's pretty and cheap, do NOT camp in any of the national parks...
      And torment the like button.

  • @jenlove797
    @jenlove797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I can't get enough. My doctor at new England Sinai hospital watches him as well. We bonded over mrballen. This channel has helped me so much. Thank you

  • @Notakiryumain20992
    @Notakiryumain20992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1560

    "Mommy's in the trees." has got to be the most horrifying cryptic thing I've ever heard.

    • @No-.-one-.
      @No-.-one-. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      *I thought of her mom jumping on the trees* o.O

    • @wonner0
      @wonner0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      And the most unhelpful

    • @godzilla362
      @godzilla362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@wonner0 Oh, I'm sorry for the baby whose parents were probably killed right b4 her eyes for not being totaly articulate about a serial killer.

    • @Emerica771
      @Emerica771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@godzilla362 calm down it’s the internet

    • @jamesreney2210
      @jamesreney2210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@godzilla362 Think about it, what, 2 year old, could be "articulate" about a stranger, busy killing her parents right in front of her, plus she had to have been utterly terrorized by what she saw, and probably, her mind, atleast partially, "shut-out" the memory of the horrors of the vision of what she did see.

  • @masonritchie86
    @masonritchie86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +640

    They should open a sock store nearby that has mostly tube socks and just wait for him to show up. He would obviously be a regular customer lol

    • @moreldjosetro4956
      @moreldjosetro4956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lol🤣

    • @YourOwnWay
      @YourOwnWay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Or just outlaw tube socks. Threat neutralized.

    • @armanimillet1219
      @armanimillet1219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lol that sounds like some good ass bait 🤣

    • @mistyfied9
      @mistyfied9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      im still on the part with mike but how you kill someone wit a tube sock other than choking them

    • @sh4rk62
      @sh4rk62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean if you want money....

  • @1204nvb
    @1204nvb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    “When he is dead, that call’s to question his ability to do these crimes”.. give this man a raise!!
    Love your work!

    • @JustKelso1993
      @JustKelso1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Fat Poopy Nice name.😂

    • @justacontentcreator8722
      @justacontentcreator8722 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Top 10 veterans in youtube community
      th-cam.com/video/dDzVxpqwToQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @PenelopePender
    @PenelopePender วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I binge on him too! Great storyteller! Not to mention he's adorable 😊

  • @risuuuuuuu
    @risuuuuuuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2244

    I'm so glad they found Mike and gave that little girl closure, she probably grew up being told her dad was a monster, she probably couldn't remember anything about the killer but now she knows her daddy would never do something so horrible, he didn't turn her life upside down and did love her.

    • @aircatcher4115
      @aircatcher4115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Stop you're gonna make me cry

    • @kane00000
      @kane00000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      Imagine getting murdered and then having your name dragged through the dirt. Having people be so stupid and spreading false information. That would suck penis

    • @TheRealNicolasJackson
      @TheRealNicolasJackson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      He did beat his wife tho so he isn't an angel

    • @Emma88178
      @Emma88178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Well her "daddy" was still an asshole in the fact that he abused his girlfriend. He's definitely no angel.

    • @Emma88178
      @Emma88178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @Anonymous Commenter What the hell? So you're okay with abusive men? Way to victim blame there. Even if a woman is violently attacked by their partner for no reason, you seem like the type who would still try to find something to blame the woman for even if it wasn't her fault at all. Also "hysterical" men exist too.

  • @winterrichards9850
    @winterrichards9850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    I’m a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format all day everyday.🥰

  • @rubenbalcazar7873
    @rubenbalcazar7873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +602

    TH-cam: “Video released 21 seconds ago”
    Me: yessssssss

    • @octo-.9041
      @octo-.9041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same

    • @anarchydmz
      @anarchydmz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Taps fan r/wooosh

    • @orbszfn
      @orbszfn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anarchydmz that's not a r/woooosh but ok...

    • @bruhman4001
      @bruhman4001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i like how this is 21 hours ago lol

    • @xmega5175
      @xmega5175 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      9 + 10 ?
      21

  • @whitewolf1112
    @whitewolf1112 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for your service Mr Ballen, keep up the good work. You are a great story teller.

  • @gabrielphillips7308
    @gabrielphillips7308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5011

    Who else can’t stop watching this guy

    • @allaboutbeebo4092
      @allaboutbeebo4092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Me

    • @emersonertz9144
      @emersonertz9144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      me. ive watched 20 videos today alone lol

    • @snaxalotl3021
      @snaxalotl3021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah whenever I watch another video other then MB, his videos pop up EVERYWHERE. They may as well pop up in my damn house

    • @josephsnyder1401
      @josephsnyder1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Big fan here! For 1 he served for are country, so a big shout out to John ballen for that. And this man is a incredible story teller! I even find myself watching repeats sometimes and engaging in them even if I have already seen it before. He has such a good on screen presence and good Pronunciation while telling his stories , I could see him being on television.(like a reporter or one of those outdoor life in the wilderness kind of shows, lol). Thank you for letting me share 😊 and sorry about the long txt that I just made much longer by apologizing for the length of the txt.😃😄😂

    • @mutualpeaceWayne
      @mutualpeaceWayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      👋🏾

  • @justamemer9903
    @justamemer9903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    “Mommy’s in the trees” .....that sent a shiver down my spine....

    • @Terri_MacKay
      @Terri_MacKay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That was like a line in a horror movie...I got goosebumps. 😱

    • @dannymiller3315
      @dannymiller3315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Dont give stephen king any ideas

    • @naanacleland8411
      @naanacleland8411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dannymiller3315 ikr 😂

    • @Toxica_Intoxicada
      @Toxica_Intoxicada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That broke my heart but yeah

    • @safexx
      @safexx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Truly heartbreaking

  • @Arizona_Ranger
    @Arizona_Ranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1386

    "avid outdoorsman" will never sound the same after I discovered this channel lol

    • @grandma650
      @grandma650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Your pfp is terrific

    • @grandma650
      @grandma650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Wait no I meant terrifying

    • @chrrispy3650
      @chrrispy3650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@grandma650 says you

    • @Calvert1212
      @Calvert1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Now it means dead guy

    • @royslapped4463
      @royslapped4463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I'm now an avid indoorsman.

  • @ReyReyI-mx4sd
    @ReyReyI-mx4sd ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's super cool to hear the stories because I fish down there along that River and I see the crosses up and I had no clue but it all makes sense now

  • @dylanwilliams2726
    @dylanwilliams2726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I really like whenever you say "80 miles" you actually give the conversion as well. I'm from Canada and I get very intrigued by these stories that I like to picture aspects of it and the conversion to kilometers really helps me imagine it without leaving the video to convert it

    • @JacobC479
      @JacobC479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel the same when he says meters lol

    • @bcshooterfmjprime7540
      @bcshooterfmjprime7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      5 and 8. 5 miles is 8 km. 50 miles. 55÷5=11. 10×11=88. 55 no = 88 km.

    • @Emma88178
      @Emma88178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@albigensiac3206 That's not really "Americanisms" though. A lot of things he says is not actually what I have said, and I'm American myself. I would have said floor instead of ground for example. Also I've only ever heard local people in my area say tour-ist as well. It depends on which state you're from since so many Americans have different accents/dialects, culture, etc.

    • @dl2k671
      @dl2k671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@albigensiac3206 90% of canadians will visualise better with imperial measurements this commenter seems to be an anomaly. Almost all canadians use feet inches etc... over stupid metric

    • @matthewgartner5339
      @matthewgartner5339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heres an easy ratio for back of the envelope math. 3 miles = 5km.

  • @KeikilaniKai86
    @KeikilaniKai86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    This is insane!! I was born and raised in Tacoma! I still live here and have for 35 years and I’ve never heard about the tube sock killer! That really freaks me out because I used to go to Nisqually to walk the basin all the time! Just sends shivers down my spine to think about the fact that I could’ve easily walked by a body or even the killer himself without ever knowing!

    • @papiderpy
      @papiderpy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      you mind walking back by there at exactly 9:35pm on September 8th, 2021?

    • @KeikilaniKai86
      @KeikilaniKai86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@papiderpy abso-fuckin-lutely not!!!

    • @ryanbolander6117
      @ryanbolander6117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@papiderpy 😆

    • @paranormalbaconghost
      @paranormalbaconghost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I used to walk and live by the place where they found bodies the green river killer killed. I didnt know that til later. That creeped me out.

    • @jayryker8261
      @jayryker8261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@papiderpy 😆😂 🤣

  • @angelabaker2326
    @angelabaker2326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Mr. Ballen,could you do a story on what happened in Land Between The Lakes?I can’t remember what year,but they found a family dead at a camp sight.People say they were tore apart and one was found up in a tree.Seems like a real interesting topic for you to dig into.
    I love listening to the stories you tell.Thanks for bringing us all these stories.

    • @oreganomuffin699
      @oreganomuffin699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      boosting this comment

    • @wolvie1618
      @wolvie1618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh goodness that sounds awful. Definitely right up his alley

    • @dinarusso3320
      @dinarusso3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Supposably the family was torn apart by an unidentified species of a canine... that's what they discovered from the DNA, fur and saliva from the bites... Dogman

  • @bromandudeguy4626
    @bromandudeguy4626 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can't stop watching this guy. The ones about people getting stuck in different places and eventually dying gives me extreme anxiety.

  • @breannahoshnic2274
    @breannahoshnic2274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    I wonder if that little girl remembers that night. She’s probably old enough to understand at this point, that’s super traumatic.

    • @alenadurisova6590
      @alenadurisova6590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hey I am glad that I remember to put my pants on...

    • @WynneL
      @WynneL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Mercifully, she was only a tender two years of age, a mere toddler. I say mercifully because memories don't really begin to form until after the age of 4. Her brain wasn't developed enough to be able to retain solid information about what happened.

    • @vexingrabbit1824
      @vexingrabbit1824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      When a Child witness something like that they go through alot of stress on the mind and as a defensive measure the mind blocks those events to protect the girl's mental state. So even when she grows up she won't be able to recall much of what happened as her memory is fragmented of the event and can only recall disturbing visuals and sounds that destroyed her psyche. As a result all those broken disturbing visuals and sounds she witness turns into what her brain can only translate the event of "moMmy Is iN tHe tReEs". When she grows older she would need to see a expert therapist to be able to translate what in the hell happened. and since he was a toddler what ever happened is probably trapped in her in the back of her head unable to wrap her head around it.

    • @pruett694
      @pruett694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@vexingrabbit1824 things like this with little kids is how you get DID (multiple personalities) and disassociation, etc. Unfortunately 2 is old enough to be traumatized for life. :(

    • @elavke5441
      @elavke5441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WynneL that is so untrue

  • @becca652
    @becca652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1388

    Another reason Mike didnt do it: why would he leave his car, and how would he have driven Crystal to the kmart when his truck was still in the forest? What car was he escaping in?

    • @Cheekfats
      @Cheekfats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      if only police were that curious and smarter

    • @jamesreney2210
      @jamesreney2210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@Cheekfats Detectives aren't stupid, and knowing some, I can tell you that they DO care. They do the best that they can with the evidence that they have.

    • @sneersh9107
      @sneersh9107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I guess theoretically he could've left the forest, dropped off his daughter, and then driven back and left his truck there. That doesn't make much sense though if he was trying to flee the area surely he wouldn't leave his truck. It was pretty obvious to me that because they didn't find him or his truck immediately he had been killed as well

    • @sadanianghane2008
      @sadanianghane2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@sneersh9107 there should be tire tracks that they can trace then

    • @jeromepowell1392
      @jeromepowell1392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They thought he drove the little girl to kmart then drove back to the forest lol

  • @fredm.9031
    @fredm.9031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ghost face at 6:41. I love your storytelling man. You have a way of pulling your listener into the story. It's truly a gift. Keep up the good work!

    • @ecchylevy9057
      @ecchylevy9057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was 2 secs off lol

    • @fredm.9031
      @fredm.9031 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ecchylevy9057 I was too at first then went back and slowed it down.

  • @joshhayward6229
    @joshhayward6229 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought I would mention Mr Ballen you would also make a great news anchor , the way you talk and describe things with minute detail and enthusiasm is ADMIRABLE

  • @preciousjewel750
    @preciousjewel750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    Can u imagine the power serial killers feel when there see their stories on tv without getting caught

    • @preciousjewel750
      @preciousjewel750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @- Astor - did u kill someone?

    • @tres8003
      @tres8003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      It’s like letting out a massive fart and nobody pays attention

    • @dfis3616
      @dfis3616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tres8003 this...this is accurate

    • @GrammarSplaining
      @GrammarSplaining 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's one reason to not publicize them -- yet somehow keep the public aware of the danger (rock, hard spot).

    • @johndough2902
      @johndough2902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

  • @desertweasel6965
    @desertweasel6965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Can you imagine the relief when this little girl saw her grandmother? Im so glad her grandmother was there, because she probably looked like a caped hero to the little girl.

    • @shame2189
      @shame2189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The ultimate relief that girl must've felt was so strong I experienced it too, because god was it a relief to know her grandmother arrived to her support

    • @jacobgarvia1065
      @jacobgarvia1065 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought it said a clapped hero

    • @michaeldoran4367
      @michaeldoran4367 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rollercoaster Tycoon- Naked man runs across the screen wearing flip flops. Weener dangles side to side making slapping sounds as the tip slaps on the skin. Rollercoaster Tycoon makes a very interesting ride where naked men have lots of weeners are floating around called WEENER forest

  • @Cocoroot
    @Cocoroot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    You are legitimately the only TH-camr that I can listen to for hours... your story telling, delivery, and style is god tier.
    Keep doing what you're doing. Hope to see you at 20 million subs if not more one day.

    • @liamgannon9474
      @liamgannon9474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i can’t sleep after watching his videos, rn i’m too scared to get up to use the bathroom

    • @JohnSmith-yt5mf
      @JohnSmith-yt5mf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liamgannon9474 I'm pooping with the lights off right now. It's safe.

    • @daltonevans3412
      @daltonevans3412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out count dankula. The guy is hilarious and is also a very good orator, he's one of my favorite storytellers.

  • @nataliedulaney8347
    @nataliedulaney8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    As terrible as this all is I am happy whoever did this did not harm the little girl. I hope she is living a good life and can someday get closure.

    • @gregorteply9034
      @gregorteply9034 ปีที่แล้ว

      She ODed and died.

    • @ericaespinosa4030
      @ericaespinosa4030 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's what I thought too. As horrible as this horrible, evil killer is, thank goodness he didn't kill the little girl. As a mother, I would say to my murderer, please spare my kids!

    • @Randy-qm8hu
      @Randy-qm8hu ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Nashiuz Zaman you need Jesus

    • @sam-ht6qv
      @sam-ht6qv ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ericaespinosa4030Maybe these couples were assholes?

    • @Safe-and-effective
      @Safe-and-effective ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a bit off topic but if that's you in that profile pic, you are stunning and I would date you in a heartbeat.

  • @TheCAWB
    @TheCAWB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    This is the result when you mix "Reading Rainbow" with "Are You Afraid of the Dark" on the internet lol

    • @MrBallen
      @MrBallen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      hahah

    • @christinadetorio4484
      @christinadetorio4484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Veira Powell same

    • @meme_thief6488
      @meme_thief6488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrBallen hey I found the ghost face in the lower left hand corner at 6:41

  • @ravensdawn430
    @ravensdawn430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    I forget about the secret everytime because I'm so engrossed with the story.

    • @JoJo-lg8hr
      @JoJo-lg8hr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same lol

    • @rickjanssen8317
      @rickjanssen8317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lemme guess if I ask what the secret is I’ll get “we’ll it won’t be a secret if I told you”??

    • @barkeyb2401
      @barkeyb2401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rickjanssen8317 its the scream face right?

    • @emilholk9053
      @emilholk9053 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @veracity_yt8572
      @veracity_yt8572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh same😎

  • @lynx1079
    @lynx1079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +660

    Imagine being called the Tube Sock Killer...

    • @ElveeKaye
      @ElveeKaye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      All the good names were taken.

    • @hypnoticwar740
      @hypnoticwar740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Says the tube sock killer, we got you now.

    • @wafflesthearttoad6916
      @wafflesthearttoad6916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Next killer name: flower kitty rainbow killer

    • @ericblair9756
      @ericblair9756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I would go with the Crocs killer

    • @WhoisKell
      @WhoisKell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ericblair9756 how would he use that? Lol killing with a croc? 🤣 all victims survive..

  • @cuorenero5076
    @cuorenero5076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This bloke knows how to tell a story, just a natural, very clear detailed just great.

  • @lilahbeans
    @lilahbeans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    “Mommy’s in the trees” that gave me full body chills as crime junkie would say

    • @provinginsanity
      @provinginsanity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me...I'm the crime junkie lol but yes it did!

    • @byxitsjh6fdh631
      @byxitsjh6fdh631 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      IM SO GLAD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT FOUND THIS FROM HER

    • @jamal2982
      @jamal2982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mommy was just playing vietnam war. No need to be scared

  • @AmericanAnarchy666
    @AmericanAnarchy666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    Shout out to us who didn’t find mr ballen on tik tok but out of pure luck and been here since his podcast days!

    • @sonicthehedgehog5355
      @sonicthehedgehog5355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I didn’t find him on tiktok. I found him on my recommended a couple of months ago. I don’t know anyone that found him on tiktok lol

    • @aidanharder7694
      @aidanharder7694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yessir He was on my recommended in like May

    • @CeeJayThe13th
      @CeeJayThe13th 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just came into my recommends last month. I'm glad he did.

    • @camix3229
      @camix3229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sonicthehedgehog5355 same

    • @dfl98
      @dfl98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I still haven’t seen him on my FYP!

  • @peachesncream781
    @peachesncream781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I love this guy, he's one of the only horror story tellers that I an actually watch and not feel completely depressed afterwards bc he presents it in a non over dramatic way. He's awesome at what he does and he even converts the measurements for you!

    • @SilveniumTheDrifter
      @SilveniumTheDrifter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who are the other ones? So I can watch them too!

    • @peachesncream781
      @peachesncream781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SilveniumTheDrifter fascinating horror, horror stories and then there's one other I can't remember that is really disturbing. I'll try and look for it ☺️

    • @dora5037
      @dora5037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @leschatsont9vies
      @leschatsont9vies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      saying this with a depressed Snape as avatar lol

    • @ysph
      @ysph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dig the guy with down's syndrome's channel too. there's something incredibly sincere about the empathy in his voice that you don't get from many narrators. what is it **********? something like that. you gotta love the internet. *********, that's what it is. that's pretty crazy to think about. i wonder if he's rich as fuck from doing that stuff? i bet he is, which is a little bit heartwarming. sometimes the internet redeems its ugly self in pretty beautiful ways. folks like that don't get lots of opportunities to become successful. i really dig it. actually on second thought, i'm going to edit out naming dude's channel. if you watch this content you know who he is.

  • @InNotOf395
    @InNotOf395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I’ve been straight up bingeing this channel for over a week now! It’s crazy that I’m coming across this particular video on the 37th anniversary of Mike & Diana’s murder!

    • @koheletsmoger2327
      @koheletsmoger2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its crazy the person who did this hasn't been brought to justice if they are still alive

    • @musa5950
      @musa5950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@koheletsmoger2327 maybe he was arrested for an unrelated crime

  • @olinmarinell1575
    @olinmarinell1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    Why is this mans green screen so goddamn good

    • @peoplenewstoday
      @peoplenewstoday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Proper lighting.

    • @Solon_The_Lich
      @Solon_The_Lich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Pro Tip: He is in his personal serial killer dungeon

    • @tygrrrmoore9815
      @tygrrrmoore9815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@peoplenewstoday
      Is that it? Or is it a combination of factors, because I kept looking for the green screen tell tale signs and so far - none!

    • @johnkrevis865
      @johnkrevis865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not a green screen

    • @HaHa-fp8of
      @HaHa-fp8of 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@johnkrevis865 ur right he’s actually recording on a lake

  • @askeletonwearingatophat7582
    @askeletonwearingatophat7582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    “Mommy’s in the trees” gave me the impression she was hung, or something it’s highly possible that the killer killed the dad as the mum and kid took off to hide potentially in a tree but I still don’t understand why there was blood on the passenger side of the car and the letter in the dads handwriting

    • @coreytravisbean
      @coreytravisbean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      I have a theory. The dad fights off the killer as the mom and kid run away. He is stabbed near the truck and is dying, meanwhile the killer leaves the dad to die and runs off to chase the kid and mom. The dad(hoping that the mom and kid get away safely) knows he is dying and wants to tell his wife that he loves her one last time. So he climbs in the truck and writes it down so she will see it when it's all over.

    • @askeletonwearingatophat7582
      @askeletonwearingatophat7582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@coreytravisbean that’s a very solid theory

    • @jeannietarantola5526
      @jeannietarantola5526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Maybe he( the dad) had someone kill them both,but the killer didn't have heart to kill the kid.

    • @Kenpachi0Sephiroth0
      @Kenpachi0Sephiroth0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@jeannietarantola5526 And he also "had this killer kill more couples" before that too for no reason?

    • @BornIn1500
      @BornIn1500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      No. The child was saying "she's in the trees" the same way that a grown person would say "she's in the woods" or "she's in the forest". The child probably just saw their mother being taken into the forest (trees) and not come back.

  • @leapinglizard3937
    @leapinglizard3937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +770

    It took 25 years, to finally know that Mike wasn’t the killer. That time must have destroyed his loved ones , mentally.

    • @FullyCharged22
      @FullyCharged22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't see him being ruled out by the police, and it seems he is still suspected.

    • @kickazz9473
      @kickazz9473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@FullyCharged22 How? He was literally buried lol

    • @FullyCharged22
      @FullyCharged22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@kickazz9473 After watching the video, I looked up what information I was able. Mike had a violent background and he was originally the suspect, the fact that his daughter was dropped off safe and sound, seems like a classic case of (a word to unfriendly for TH-cam). Based on the recently discovered evidence of a fragment of bone, the police said he "may be another victim" but he is not ruled out, and there is no way to be sure he didn't cause his own death.

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@FullyCharged22 so he killed 5 other couples in that area?

    • @FullyCharged22
      @FullyCharged22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Wales Eakes It seems that is the obvious conclusion from the police interest. I can't answer if he did or didn't.

  • @bmfsnc8466
    @bmfsnc8466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    found your page about 2 weeks ago, trying not too bindge watch too hard so I aays have several episodes a day to watch, but your channel is so good, it is hard to resist binging them!

  • @-MR.Nobody
    @-MR.Nobody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +751

    Its insane how the cops didnt link The fact that there were four other couples that had been killed in the same area. Also, didnt they search the forest with dogs? Wouldnt they be able to find Mike even if he was buried?

    • @1100blake
      @1100blake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Killer was probably one of the retired detectives

    • @FirePuncher183
      @FirePuncher183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@usr21882 yeah but it's pretty stupid not to link those together as they happened

    • @kailua0094
      @kailua0094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@FirePuncher183 yeah but remember before finding mike most everyone had already thought mike was the killer so they wouldn't have thought there was much relation besides same area and that they were killing couples because they thought Mike did it and so why would there be reason to connect the killers?

    • @FirePuncher183
      @FirePuncher183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kailua0094 I mean they're all couples all look similar and all of them were kiIIed in the same area that's too many similarities

    • @WolfQueenLydia
      @WolfQueenLydia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Depending how deep he was buried, the dogs wouldn't have been able to smell him. The fact he was only found so many years later he was buried pretty deep it seems.

  • @pixleattack
    @pixleattack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Some of these videos get me too scared to leave my house, and the rest get me to scared to stay inside it.
    It’s a conundrum...

  • @lunar-firefly
    @lunar-firefly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    That's terrifying. I don't live far from where all this took place. So much for dispersed camping on my own.
    Is it me or does the Pacific Northwest seem to have an alarming amount of serial killers?

    • @MercuryRyzen
      @MercuryRyzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I was just noticing the same trend. Seems an awful lot of these stories come out of the Pacific Northwest and Vancouver area. Either that or those are the stories the YT algorithm enjoys offering to me...

    • @OGYouTubeEnjoyer
      @OGYouTubeEnjoyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Where is the Pacific Northwest? Washington? Oregon? LOL!

    • @RH-tv9hk
      @RH-tv9hk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yes I think all four west coast states are in the top 10, maybe even top 5, for having the most serial killers.

    • @burtknighten1873
      @burtknighten1873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's all the rain

    • @Umberto2
      @Umberto2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sure does! 😳

  • @Crimea_River
    @Crimea_River ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great, as someone who lives in Northern CA, I'm going to use this story around the campfire to scare the crap out of people. Thanks Mr. B!

    • @katherinecohen9524
      @katherinecohen9524 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bro they named their daughter Crystal and then they said that they had a Rocky relationship😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤ 1:46

  • @GiDD504
    @GiDD504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I can’t be the only one who assumed there was a guy with a pool ball in a tube sock that would beat people to death...
    I never even thought of a guy choking someone with a sock

    • @NEO_RKX
      @NEO_RKX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes you’re the only one lol cause I thought of people being strangled with a sock

    • @nindysidhu4228
      @nindysidhu4228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I thought about a stuffed sock bludgeoning people to death, but now, I'm thinking of the indignity of dying by being strangled with a tube sock and thinking "I wonder if he wore this?" as I grasp the last bits of life I can, just hoping I don't smell sweaty foot before I go.

    • @rlh9373
      @rlh9373 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was it socko was on WWE and mankind and socko broke up and socko became a serial killer.

    • @enevy3165
      @enevy3165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I seriously thought of a guy stuffing a sock with bars of butter and beating people yo death with it i-

    • @ShortFuze1170
      @ShortFuze1170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought he tried to use it as a mask because people used to use hosiery as a way to hide their faces

  • @KillianGrenier13
    @KillianGrenier13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1221

    "mommy's in the trees"
    it's possible that the killer dragged the mother away, killed her, and tube sock guy said "mommy's in the trees" in an effort to comfort her during the 20 mile trip back
    it's also eerie knowing that the killer was potentially stalking Mike for months/years when he was setting traps. probably overheard him monologuing about his GF

    • @hansvonzisimann44
      @hansvonzisimann44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Or her mom was Vietnamese
      (Srry i had to)

    • @KillianGrenier13
      @KillianGrenier13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@hansvonzisimann44 lol

    • @johndough2902
      @johndough2902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@hansvonzisimann44 BRUH 😂😂😂

    • @owliki3848
      @owliki3848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hansvonzisimann44 wtf 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @balderii7340
      @balderii7340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You might be right, the killer told her,...

  • @braylonwoods4594
    @braylonwoods4594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    He’s a couple killer, tube socks come in pairs and one usually gets lost.

    • @ryanm5399
      @ryanm5399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      This guys the killer

    • @colorgreen8728
      @colorgreen8728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ryanm5399 I think you got a point

    • @braylonwoods4594
      @braylonwoods4594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ryanm5399 shhhhh or I’ll make you shhh

    • @jackfrancis9610
      @jackfrancis9610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@braylonwoods4594 tube sock

    • @runaway_9763
      @runaway_9763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ryanm5399 im single i won't die ( Ties sock around neck ) killer ya you will be fine

  • @scartgo0820
    @scartgo0820 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Damn…was about to turn it off and go to bed, but you had to say “if you live in the Pacific Northwest, you have to pay attention to the end of this video…I already have a hard enough time turning the IPad off when I’m watching your stories, now I HAVE to watch this one or I won’t be able to sleep tonight…of course, I probably still won’t be able to sleep after hearing whatever I’m about to hear about my home….but go ahead and bring it Mr. Ballen!
    It’s hard to believe I still haven’t seen all the videos!

  • @innaf7623
    @innaf7623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +888

    Another story from the pacific northwest that should deserve a video: the soap lady of Lake Crescent. Her body was found soapified after three years of being underwater. And due to the conditions of the lake, it was the perfect conditions to make her body soapy which eventually floated up to the surface and the questions started popping up. How did she end up on the bottom of the lake? Who murdered her this way and tied her up before throwing her into the lake? What were their motives? Fascinating story and I visited the lake, never would've guessed that there's such a dark mystery tied to it. (Maybe let's get MrBallen to cover this story???)

    • @kathleenedwards8472
      @kathleenedwards8472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Oregonian here and I’ve never heard this! My aunt lives near the lake. Looks like I have some googling to do.

    • @Rfsi
      @Rfsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yedy

    • @babybirdsmommy1
      @babybirdsmommy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Maybe say something on his sub reddit?

    • @supposedhumanmars
      @supposedhumanmars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I was born, raised, and at 40, still live in Western Washington. This state is....weird....to say the least.

    • @turdfurgeson2032
      @turdfurgeson2032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Her husband beat her to death and dumped the body in the lake. It happened back in the 30s

  • @cjb2749
    @cjb2749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +421

    #1: I don't necessarily believe that Mike was buried. This stuff happens way too often, where searchers overlook evidence or remains, usually because they searched right around the area, but didn't hit that specific spot. His bones were probably scattered because of animals.
    #2: I think it's pretty clear that Mike was killed in the forest first, then killer came to where mommy and baby were waiting in the truck, killed Diana in the front seat, then dragged her body under the tree where it was found. Crystal saw all of this, and, of course, was in shock and only 2yrs old, so she probably blocked out the murderers face, but she saw her mom left under the tree, then the bad guy grabbed her and took her to the kmart. It's really unfortunate that they didnt have security cameras there.

    • @jdmustard2557
      @jdmustard2557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      What about the note though?

    • @rupeshkaushal2888
      @rupeshkaushal2888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also this killer probably had a daughter of his own

    • @josuemendez2358
      @josuemendez2358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe the killer knew there was no cameras there

    • @richardclifford003
      @richardclifford003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@rupeshkaushal2888 No. The little girl was never the target. I had suspects who were age, gender, and race specific. It's like ordering off a menu. If the menu doesn't have that specific meal, they're not hungry.

    • @veasey3997
      @veasey3997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’d like to say the body got replaced. Waited until the searches were over and put it right back. The note could’ve been forged so all of this would look like Mike.

  • @Metaltophat5497
    @Metaltophat5497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1443

    I always love how in some of these professionals can’t find the things they’re looking for in the woods with planes and shit but some civilians can by just walking

    • @daave365
      @daave365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      Probably kinda hard to see a red pickup covered with snow on a logging road from the air

    • @37HoneyMilk37
      @37HoneyMilk37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@daave365 ye, probably

    • @eatwhatukiii2532
      @eatwhatukiii2532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      I can’t find my own hairbrush or car keys half the time digging my entire house apart to look, but then a friend can just glance around and BAM, “It’s right HERE.”

    • @37HoneyMilk37
      @37HoneyMilk37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@eatwhatukiii2532 trust me, that's totally normal.

    • @fbiagent3998
      @fbiagent3998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Fr it's always the civilians finding the murder scenes, like imagine the trauma 😭

  • @OtomoTenzi
    @OtomoTenzi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Yo, Mr. Ballen!
    Just a friendly reminder, that life is always so much better with cool and awesome people like you around!

  • @ronnypierson1589
    @ronnypierson1589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Literally nobody else I’d rather listen to tell these stories 👑

  • @SHORYU616
    @SHORYU616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +666

    If you are the tube sock killer in this story, post a comment down below for your chance to win a prize!

    • @zapsfn8421
      @zapsfn8421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Yo

    • @zapsfn8421
      @zapsfn8421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Where my prize at

    • @timklafke4712
      @timklafke4712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Zaps FN is actually an imposter. Stop tryna take credit for my work smh

    • @theeunknown3988
      @theeunknown3988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@timklafke4712 How dare you! Stop taking my credit, that's just rude!

    • @cerex5798
      @cerex5798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Y'all something else 😹😹

  • @davidcox1508
    @davidcox1508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The bonus thing in your videos is cool, John. As are your stories.
    When one involves a DAUGHTER, though, my heart just gets BROKEN. I have 2 of my own, and the thought of ANYTHING bad happening to them has been known to keep me awake nights. I don't think they could ever understand what it meant to ME how it felt when they would cry over something and I held them, or the first time each of them looked up at me and said "I love you, daddy".
    I don't care how tough a male IS, when you look into their little eyes and faces, you're simply NOT a man if you don't fall HARD for them - you can't help it, and it hurts when they get older and move on, but you're so PROUD of them when they do. Being a father is maybe the hardest role a guy can take on.

    • @cjcreasey9219
      @cjcreasey9219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just shed a tear I’m not crying tho it’s these damn onions

    • @desertshadow72
      @desertshadow72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps the tube sock killer is a dad and that explains why he didn't kill the little girl

    • @johntompkins9583
      @johntompkins9583 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have 2 boys and I feel the same! They're still young though so I try every day for them. That's a dad better than being a man just a man!

    • @atashgallagher5139
      @atashgallagher5139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johntompkins9583 beware them becoming teenagers, as an inside source they will eventually realize you can't make them do things and from there on out it's pretty much over trying to change them.

  • @hemmingtait
    @hemmingtait 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I used to watch this channel 2 years ago i just got this video in my reccomended man i love this guy

  • @WireGamingTV
    @WireGamingTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Mr Ballen is the best storyteller on TH-cam, undebatable

    • @Alexhammd
      @Alexhammd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your darn right

    • @dodobird8687
      @dodobird8687 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you are so right

    • @user-pc9oj9ci1r
      @user-pc9oj9ci1r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mr Nightmare and Mr Ballen are the 2 elites of TH-cam story telling, they’re both different but great story tellers

  • @lukebennett.
    @lukebennett. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Ever since I've learnt about the strange dark and mysterious in story format I can't stop watching

  • @jhopson5224
    @jhopson5224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Camping has been ruined for me after listening to these stories lol. What makes it worse is i live close to this area!

    • @BallsTickler69420
      @BallsTickler69420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      are you ok

    • @zukoHD
      @zukoHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      buy a gun.

    • @Crustystreet123
      @Crustystreet123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Look out for the tube sock killer

    • @AP-yy3ve
      @AP-yy3ve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Emilio Wendlandt lmao don't matter if he goes in alone he'll be dead when he is asleep

    • @markhammar3977
      @markhammar3977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dogs are awesome...

  • @hiigghhggg9150
    @hiigghhggg9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I’ve heard of this case before, but damn I feel bad for Mike. I know he didn’t seem to be the best person, but he was a murder victim too and everybody just started saying he was a serial killer like wtf

    • @justsomedudeyouknow8372
      @justsomedudeyouknow8372 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Makes sense tho. They couldn't find him, and since many crimes are generally committed by those closest to the victim it makes sense they would think that.

  • @roycejohnson3715
    @roycejohnson3715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This guy and his stories have got me through hard times just his demeanor and the way he tells his stories has helped me with depression big time...with my mom and uncle getting covid, my grandfathers cancer coming back, and me being homeless from losing my job and home from covid it's been rough but Mr. Ballen has given me something to look forward to with his channel and that might seem stupid to some but to me that means everything..thank you man.. sincerely...and thank you for defending our country...we love you brother

    • @temperstar8411
      @temperstar8411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rat686 Would you lose your clothes and phone if you became homeless?

    • @temperstar8411
      @temperstar8411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rat686 ... I don't know, thank God I'm not homeless

    • @DustinSrLenzo
      @DustinSrLenzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We see this all the time nowadays. People somehow have a cell phone with data and internet but are homeless. They must make enough money to afford their phone plan but not much else I guess? Probably charge the phone at a Starbucks or phone charging station at a clinic or something. Either way, not my place to judge. If I was homeless I would still want my phone with data lol. God bless, we all go through struggles in life. I pray you find peace and comfort

    • @nina9789
      @nina9789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally understand. I hope you will be ok soon.

    • @ericajames5038
      @ericajames5038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rat686 speaking from experience when I was briefly homeless I still had my cellphone most of the time, I would bum phone cards off family/friends for minutes on my prepaid, use wifi and outlets for my charger at local wendy's, coffee shops and shit. You never know what desperate people go through unless you've been there yourself unfortunately.

  • @c.thomas841
    @c.thomas841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I love how it just feels like he's talking to you he's not reading out of a book or a script def love his way of story telling been binge watching for days

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn! I was just about to start a new channel called "Mr Ballin' " where I dribble a basketball while reading stories from a script!

  • @Nostalgic_1
    @Nostalgic_1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    I NEVER see the hidden image because I am too enthralled by your story telling!
    😪

    • @LBzarro
      @LBzarro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's ok mommy M

    • @HappyDoughnut1
      @HappyDoughnut1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have only seen two out of numerous videos I have been watching for the past two days. Of course the videos I have been watching are from months or weeks ago.

    • @cairokwame5230
      @cairokwame5230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

    • @koenkanter7872
      @koenkanter7872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      6:40 on the bottom

    • @NunyaBusiness-kv3cg
      @NunyaBusiness-kv3cg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow no one ever commented this before

  • @dawg6169
    @dawg6169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in Washington and heard about this case a while ago, and I'm so glad I stumbled across this video!

  • @18chaney
    @18chaney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    I get so engulfed in these stories, I don’t even bother looking for the secret for fear I’m gonna miss something in the story 🤦🏽‍♀️😂. #MrBallen is the best story teller! Sometimes I talk back like he can he hear me 😂😂

    • @krafty0518
      @krafty0518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me too!!!!

    • @reneeren293
      @reneeren293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly...idk y he even puts that secret there?

    • @sherrijean03
      @sherrijean03 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @Mimienan59
      @Mimienan59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is there really even a secret picture in the vid. I have never seen it. I’m wondering if it a joke?

  • @cuppycakey5013
    @cuppycakey5013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +684

    “He would have had to have killed himself and then somehow buried himself.” Sounds plausible. 😂

    • @Kinky_Devil
      @Kinky_Devil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know right

    • @chaos.corner
      @chaos.corner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Musta had information on the Clintons.

    • @1dirkmanchest
      @1dirkmanchest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hmm Sounds like a Vince Foster situation. Better assign the volunteer fire department and the park police to conduct an in-depth investigation.

    • @darrellboone9274
      @darrellboone9274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      About as plausible as that marine,who "killed himself" by stabbing himself 17 times in the chest,with a butter knife 😳🙄

    • @marcusmcintire6683
      @marcusmcintire6683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Today they would say it was Covid

  • @snowblindart
    @snowblindart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I am a blind artist. I love your channel so far. It was recommended to me on Coffee House Crime channel. I love the story format. Although I have a tiny bit of vision I can't follow All the images normally. This makes it lovely to follow along. Thank you!

    • @24get24give
      @24get24give 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the coffee houe crime guy, too, but, ballen is my go to

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A blind artist? Better than a modern artist.

  • @briankinsley6565
    @briankinsley6565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've binged watxhed pretty much all of his videos and eagerly wait for when he drops a new one!😂

  • @steffenp7384
    @steffenp7384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    I couldn't imagine how Mike's family felt, thinking their son was a murderer, until he was finally cleared.

    • @nikitadondiva
      @nikitadondiva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He was a woman beater so I doubt it was a much different feeling.

    • @steffenp7384
      @steffenp7384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@nikitadondiva huge difference between what eas described that he did, and murder. Especially serial killer.

    • @nikitadondiva
      @nikitadondiva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@steffenp7384 I could see them thinking he killed his wife. I doubt they ever believed he was a serial killer.

    • @Jaedyn_0
      @Jaedyn_0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@nikitadondiva I mean all Mr. Ballen said was Domestic Violence, he never stated that he actually hit her... Yeah he maybe sounds like an asswipe, but doesn't rule out anything... And I'm sure that could've been detected in some way if he had hit his wife.

    • @marklewandowski8474
      @marklewandowski8474 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He was most likely the killer. Grid searches are notorious for "thoroughly searching" an area sometimes multiple times and finding nothing. Then a random hiker finds the body right in the center of the search area.
      It's a lot easier for the police to claim he was buried than admit maybe they didn't do a thorough enough search. But the previous couple wasn't buried. So breaks from the MO. And connecting 2 other couples that were killed (no tube sock in their cases) across decades and thousands of square miles of PNW forest is a stretch to say the least.
      Maybe he killed the couple because one got stuck in his trap and he panicked. Or who knows. But more probable than not he killed them (much less personal way than stabbing 17x) and at least his wife and himself.

  • @DopiestKitten
    @DopiestKitten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’ve been watching these videos almost constantly for the past 3 days. I’m hooked.

  • @gloomysunday9534
    @gloomysunday9534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    its so sad that mike's memory was "corrupted" for so long , imagine his daughter 😔

    • @paulesterline5714
      @paulesterline5714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes however keep in mind even though she was not able to articulate it to anyone, she is the only person living that knows the true killer, and that it is not her fsther.

    • @ominouspsychadelic8560
      @ominouspsychadelic8560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha

    • @floskater99
      @floskater99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@paulesterline5714 Guess she doesn‘t know it anymore, otherwise she could‘ve just described the killer a few years later

  • @bhgeaxx8894
    @bhgeaxx8894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all the stories that take place in Washington I know where alot of them have taken place

  • @1616jaime
    @1616jaime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Crazy how I am not very active on TH-cam, yet I have watched and liked 85 of your videos so far. Your content is literally everything I am interested in. Thank you sir!

    • @northenhemisphere4691
      @northenhemisphere4691 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you do?

    • @Hama-je3bu
      @Hama-je3bu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out that chapter. Another good channel about unloved crimes and mysteries.

    • @anthonywandowicz8084
      @anthonywandowicz8084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So your only interested in death. That's fucked up

    • @Hama-je3bu
      @Hama-je3bu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anthonywandowicz8084 you clearly havnt watched many of his videos. It's not all about death. It's about unsolved mysteries and the paranormal.

  • @Musabe009
    @Musabe009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Jack and Dianne Two American kids growing up in the heartland.

    • @ijustwantedausername
      @ijustwantedausername 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jack, he’s gonna be a football star.

    • @cajunasian165
      @cajunasian165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ohh yeah! Life goes on!!! .... Suckin on the chili dog... 😮😯

    • @sirtubbs5771
      @sirtubbs5771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess life didn't go on

    • @cajunasian165
      @cajunasian165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Joanna Martin in🇺🇸 America's heartland.. 🎸🎼. Oh yeeaahh life goes on...

  • @jaydenn01
    @jaydenn01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I honestly love that he says " we " upload every week instead of "I". I love that he includes his family too even if they aren't in all his vids 🥺🥺

  • @pamelawages7927
    @pamelawages7927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truly enjoy your story telling abilities. I'm hooked...

  • @aewhatever
    @aewhatever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    A reminder a retired Detective on a documentary saying that the worst enemy of a detective is tunnel vision

    • @jacobbellflower2294
      @jacobbellflower2294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts

    • @FOXCYBORGNINJA
      @FOXCYBORGNINJA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was that from the Netflix documentary “The confession killer”?.

    • @aewhatever
      @aewhatever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FOXCYBORGNINJA if I remember right I saw it here. There was a doc about a missing couple that were found to be killed. At the time there were several people killed in the same area but different jurisdiction. I think it was in the early 80s and the different jurisdictions didn't exchange information like they do today. They had a suspect, that they focused on and explored no other avenues. Decades later they would learn of the other killings and found the initial suspect couldn't have committed these crimes

  • @mrmicho5553
    @mrmicho5553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1526

    The fact that hikers found more bodies than police did is insane😂

    • @scoliasma6532
      @scoliasma6532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Well of course!we have to do the work they are. SUPPOSED TO DO!!!

    • @treysmith6407
      @treysmith6407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Agreed but, that is terribly sad, not at all funny

    • @yorkfirepulse8724
      @yorkfirepulse8724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Sometimes when your not looking for anything you usually find... Something. Assuming the opposite, searching with too much focus yields the expected_ tunnel vision maybe

    • @codeXenigma
      @codeXenigma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Its a huge area that still took hikers years to find them.

  • @SUPER_WOLFMOON
    @SUPER_WOLFMOON 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm no talent scout but I feel like Mr. Ballen's ability to memorize stories and to convey them in a very dramatic way; could be something movie/tv program folks would appreciate.

    • @itzyaboigamer9340
      @itzyaboigamer9340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He reads off a script and there are several cuts in the video but his story telling ability’s are still amazing

    • @user-lg4vp4eq7c
      @user-lg4vp4eq7c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@itzyaboigamer9340 he said he actually memorises the story the day before but he has bullet points written out w key information so he doesn’t forget beside him

  • @annebarber2243
    @annebarber2243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You help me with my english ! You have a such good prononciation !

  • @DejaVu-iy8hh
    @DejaVu-iy8hh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    God…it’s sickening how many people literally get away with murder. If they had looked harder and actually found the bodies the first time they looked they might have found some clues.

    • @SunGawdRa
      @SunGawdRa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      They feel pressure to close cases, so they take the easy way out when available.

    • @Ricardo-cl3vs
      @Ricardo-cl3vs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You would have done it much better I guess?!

    • @veasey3997
      @veasey3997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yes multiple search parties didn’t see anything. You must live in the city or something? Woods are huge dude. Additionally people place bodies back after searches are done.

    • @sitcomchristian6886
      @sitcomchristian6886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some people only answer for it when they die. Don't worry, they'll get what they deserve.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No one gets away with murder. A man reaps what he sows. Hell to pay. I did many videos proving atheist ingrates wrong about everything.

  • @larsondarcy101
    @larsondarcy101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    "If Mike was dead, then it calls in to question his ability to commit these two crimes." Ya, I would say so.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First of all, I'm not fun at parties.
      Second of all, I don't get invited.
      Third of all: You DID say so. But you said would, as if you did not say so.

  • @rebeccasmith2859
    @rebeccasmith2859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    I put laxatives in the like button’s birthday cake and served it to his whole family and looked the bathroom door

  • @Lupus25Mortis
    @Lupus25Mortis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love watching Mrballen, but finding stories like this makes me realize we have serial killers people don't know about. And even worse, it's not like old history, they are still roaming around.

  • @ycuf3261
    @ycuf3261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Mr.Ballen’s stories are more entertaining than movies

  • @TywgMedia1876
    @TywgMedia1876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1373

    Imagine Mike being in that forest every day and the serial killer is watching him and never decided to kill him until he had a partner with him 💔

    • @williamlee7482
      @williamlee7482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      That's a scary thought and is a possibility

    • @gmiller831
      @gmiller831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      But why the multiple stab wounds?

    • @gavinfairbanks
      @gavinfairbanks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      They only tied socks around the women in this story. Maybe the killers marks are the adult women and the men are incedental.

    • @salemcrow5078
      @salemcrow5078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@gavinfairbanks They clearly have some problem with couples, and it's somehow tied to the women (given the tube socks). Disgruntled, jealousy, etc could be the motives to kill the couples.

    • @santicheeks1106
      @santicheeks1106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Thats what I was thinking, cause he only kills couples, and kills women with a tube sock

  • @sandrakvainickaite
    @sandrakvainickaite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    i can imagine that killer sitting at home, watching this video and thinking: "hmmm, so they found remains. amateurs"

  • @violetafermin5952
    @violetafermin5952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr ballen I never thought about being addicted to anything until I started listening to your stories. You are very talented and addictive. God bless you 🙏

  • @alecevins4990
    @alecevins4990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Probably the best channel on all of TH-cam. Thank you for all your incredible stories and the countless times you entertain me. Keep up the good work. I watch literally everyday

  • @anthonyv6128
    @anthonyv6128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Bro you need to upload these stories on Spotify. I want to listen to them while working or on long trips.

    • @cd254
      @cd254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then put TH-cam on ur phone lol

    • @anthonyv6128
      @anthonyv6128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@cd254 I want to be able to turn my phone off like with Spotify. I dont have TH-cam Premium nor do i want it.

    • @KryptsCorner
      @KryptsCorner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can download TH-cam videos to your phone as audio files for free with a free program

    • @anthonyv6128
      @anthonyv6128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KryptsCorner yea but with Spotify once its uploaded I dont have to download anything. Just hit the play button.

  • @touchstoneaf
    @touchstoneaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    It's definitely disturbing when you hear a story like this about an area where you live, and that more has happened. Though I have to admit I have no idea where the heck they were hiking around in the Nisqually area, because most of that land is owned by the Army and is fenced off. There is I guess a decent chunk of it that belongs to the tribe as well, the way I always thought most of that was tidal plain. But then in that case, I'm not sure what the heck he thought he was doing trapping on tribal land, he didn't look like he was part of the tribe (though you can't always tell). Edit: Though now I see that his truck was found in an area out by Eatonville just north of Mount Rainier AKA Mount Tahoma. That's way on the other side of the freeway/ hwy 99, and definitely within the general vicinity of going to Spanaway on the way north again.
    Anyway it's bizarre because that's about 15 minutes from where I live. It makes me wonder if they found her at the Kmart in Olympia or one in Tacoma or Lakewood or something.
    Now I'm going to have to look this one up.
    Edit:. Ooooh, the Kmart was in Spanaway! To me that means that the killer lives in that area, because otherwise it's completely in the opposite direction from any of these other places.

    • @richjames1982
      @richjames1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So why did you stop tying socks around their necks when you kill them?

    • @hollowgonzalo4329
      @hollowgonzalo4329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not necessarily.
      Why would the killer drop the child off in his hometown?
      Seems smarter to take the kid a few towns away from where you live.

    • @TRYCLOPS1
      @TRYCLOPS1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hollowgonzalo4329 maybe he was going to Kmart

    • @charlotteboyett-napper4780
      @charlotteboyett-napper4780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@TRYCLOPS1 yep! He needed another pair of socks

    • @csmith63
      @csmith63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hollowgonzalo4329 It might be "smarter," but it's geographic analysis of crime patterns that has been the major advancement in crime solving since DNA, precisely because of quirks in how humans operate within comfort zones they DON'T leave. We had a case where I am in a red state with a very active death penalty--not active enough, but definitely not somewhere you want to get caught having just killed two police officers on camera during a traffic stop because you knew they were likely going to find your arrest warrant for murder!!! Ironically, that wasn't the particular warrant they'd found, that one not having quite caught up to him yet, but either way he decided to kill the police to escape. There followed a very intense week and a half of them searching through particular neighborhoods he was known to frequent, with most of us on the outside thinking surely he had the sense to hit the gas and go right after he did it and there was no way he was still going to be here. I was working at a juvenile probation office in the area, and it was creating so much stress they first put guys with automatic weapons out to protect us, then pulled them to try to deescalate tension, with all of us on edge the whole time. Finally, a storm was rolling in that was going to be saturating the area with hours and hours of rain just as they said they were going to cordon off and go house to house. That did it. While no one wanted particularly to turn him in helpfully just because of a snitch code, no one wanted to go down on a cop killer beef with him as an accessory, either. He was grabbed up by "unknown parties" and dropped at an attorney's office who had been requested to arrange surrender. It won't be as big as the party the night the lights went out to dispatch that particularly prolific serial killer, but there'll be liberal amounts of hooch consumed at cop bars and DA office parties and a few fancy fundraisers for politicians statewide when that business is finally finished--and probably a few celebratory belts even in those neighborhoods, given all that was discovered by trials (plural)!!! l cannot wait for his number to come up!