So fun fact in that Brazil alliance, Emperor Pedro I of Brazil was actually one of the candidates to the Greek throne after the war of independence. The greeks had no say on the choice tho, only the great powers of Europe and Brazil had a good relation with Britain. They eventually chose the second son of the Bavarian king but the ideia of a Brazilian-greek empire gotta be one of the strangest personal unions of history lmao
Only second to the Brazilian-French empire if the house of Orleans still was in power, since the Brazilian crown princess was married to the French Orleansist pretender. Brazil has some interesting dynastic moments in history
@@prestonjones1653 its is so because of napilion when napoleon invaded Portugal the Portuguese emperor escaped to Brazil when napolian was defeter the emperor returned to Portugal and let his son to rule Brazil after his death his son has to chose Portugal or Brazil he chose brazil
I think EU4 has conditioned me to not want to be protectorate but damn, joined France as a protectorate as Papal States and easily formed Kingdom of Heaven (Italy when formed by pope I guess?) x) The huge French market also allowed me to rush for colonialism without issues and managed to grab a huge chunk of the colonial land across the globe! Point is becoming a protectorate as a weaker nation is not at all a bad thing should NOT be underestimated!
In a run I did with Austria/Germany I got to be #1 Great Power and had this "fearful" problem too, but I notice that if you don't move your armies to the fronts until the very end, there is a chance that your enemies would actually want to fight you. But I only got to test this in overseas wars, so there is a chance it might not work with border wars. Also in overseas wars if you manage to start the war, is very probable that your armies won't make it on time to defend the frontlines so there are some risk on doing that.
My issue with my Greece game was the same. Every time I went to war, the Ottomans caved and gave me one province. So it was a long slog to get all of the provinces back.
i donnu if it counts but on first patch, i tried moroccan game became the number 1 great power and managed to also get 1Bil GDP, france and UK were my bitches
@@slickyblicky1711 It's really not that bad. I did a campaign trying to make Saudi Arabia and it was pretty easy. You just try to get into Britain's custom union, build up your industry with their resources and then leave them when they start to collapse near 1880
My strategy: 1. Research the military tech 2. Build a lot of Iron mine + tool workshop 3. Be friend with Ruskies, Austria & France 4. Taking Crete when Egypt warring again turks 5. Return thesally and take thesalonika with turks, try to sway out or in the power 6. I will form byzantine probably around 1865-1875
Something you can try if you haven't already. Enact the colonial resettlement instead of the colonial exploitation. That gives 100% migration attraction to unincoorporated states. So if you use greener grass campaign in a non core state you get 200% migration attraction. Which i pretty op (trust me.)
this is a pretty bad move. your colonies having higher attraction than your homeland just means all your people leave for land you don't get to tax them in. you want people to move to your home states. not your colonies.
Ζήτω η Ρωμανία! Ζήτω η ανολοκλήρωτη επανάστασις! Ζήτω η Ελλάς! Long live Rhomania! Long live the unfinished revolution! Long live Hellas! Thanks for playing with Greece Ludi! 🇬🇷❤🇹🇩
Awesome how this game acknowledges the Greek population that was still around while EU4 ignores it and makes it all Turkish. It's not like the Nationalism CB would be that useful since you already have a Reconquest one and the culture of the locals was something that the Ottomans had to deal with so it makes just one less problem for them. Since the game wants the Otto guys to be a starter nation, that would be a good time to learn about having other cultures in your country and how to deal with it. I get that the culture system is different in EU4 and that a province is usually just labeled as whatever the majority is but there were places that were still majority Greek (especially the islands in the area). Of course Zoroastrianism gets this treatment too, but they still leave in the holy site in India with nothing but Sunni and Hindu in the area. Maybe just another case of being unable to show a minority. I guess the point I'm driving at is that Victoria has a slightly better culture mapping system than EU4, not that this takes away from EU4 too much but it's still something to note when using RTS games to learn your history, like I tend to do these days (despite knowing that half of it is doctored for game design reasons). History as according to RTS games can be weird before you even hit play.
Maybe it's because I hold degrees in Social and Cultural Anthropology and Social Work and thus tend to like your political views, but regardless of that, I am so happy that I found your channel and can enjoy your top-tier content. Your analyses and comments just give your videos that extra bit of something that separates average gaming channels from content Giants like you. Thank you for your efforts! 😅
@@legitplayin6977 straight to the facts - social-liberal I would say. It really depends on your own values and your social-cultural environment and your geographical standpoint (like literally). I am Austrian with Slovenian/Italian ancestry and was brought up in a humanistic household with mostly University-educated people in my family but my friends were from families who didn't value education that much and often were involved in criminal activities. I was a spoiled kid who hang out with the "troubled" kids, if you want. It's also hard to describe without writing an essay about the political, social, cultural, religious and scientific development of humans over the last couple hundred, maybe thousand years. I would consider myself politically liberal and economically social. Most people in my country would say I am almost extremly left wing. Austria went hard right politically speaking during the last 2 decades though, like most european countries. May I mention, we all (should) know how well it works out for Europe, if right wing people in Austria get too much "clout". It's not too long ago, that some little, addicted, frightened moron with a funny beard from Braunau got real popular in Germany, which set events in cause, that were less than beneficiary to say the least.
@@pompomdomdom LOL is that what you read out of it? Interesting... Well, I guess this is your way of being funny or being a jerk. That would be up to discussion. Nah, I got a job. I work for Save the Children actually. Do you have a job or are you just being a troll?
Hey Ludi, I have an idea for a new playthrough (or challenge, if you want) 1. Playing as an island nation that is not Japan or the UK. 2. Focus heavily on trading. 3. Establish sea dominance and conquer most of the islands around the world.
Van Diemen's Land? Conquered the Pacific Islands including Taiwan and Japan, then took Ceylon, Socotra and Madagascar. Ran out of time to conquer Britain and Sjaelland.
You can use the Austrian empire to take a couple provinces from Egypt as you chisel down the ottomans, I like to ignore Cyprus and go for the Egyptian silk and then take a treaty port in Alexandria. At that point the Austrians won’t help you any more, so just make Egypt a puppet XD
if you time things right, you dont need the protectorate. With naval invasions and the Egyptian war you can walk beat them despite being outnumbered / poor. and once you have Thrace your economy is strong enough to be fine on its own plus you already get a lot of pre-built things
I declared my first war when Egypt was winning against them. I didn't even need to call anyone. My troops walked into Ottoman lands unopposed because all their troops were fighting the Egyptians, and I got all my claims back in one war. They didn't back down because I didn't call in any great powers.
You can see how fearful they are of you in the diplomatic play tab, so if they're very fearful of you to start with, you probably shouldn't call in your allies to the war
you should make a austria video ludi I recently played a long playthrough on austria and they start off quite strong actually, but the only annoying thing is that i cant seem to enact multiculturalism or anything else except for national supremacy without having a revolution.. Any tips on that?
I mean all you need to do is build 30 barracks in attica get line infantry and have a general at level 1 so you have 10 in reserve use enlistment efforts in attica and you can just fight the ottomans immediately by yourself especially if you can get the armed forces loyal except the ottomans will assume that you cant so they will fight you and you can enforce all your war goals the first time.
Since starting to watch your videos I've gotten much better at the game lol. As Sokoto in Afrika I make 10k a month and rank 25 in world power. Starting to climb higher now lol.
this happened to me in my America campaign and I wanted to fucking roll over and die it takes so long to get all those states when they just cave in every time.
I agree with you Amin Ommade. I am not a fan of Vic 3. But it really comes down to views. He is getting way more on VIc 3 videos than EU 4. Until that changes. Once a week is all we will probably get. Better than nothing.
Haha from the Turkish perspective you say? :) thanks for another video, Ludi! I'd love to see how form IBERIA - every time I try in the late game, I get so much INFAMY! Can you do it politically?
Where do the people migarting to the country come from? My guess is they come from the lands to conquer... and are ethnic greeks. Second question: if greek has homelands i think they do not assimilate into turkish contrary to what he said in the beginning of the video.
I dont understand why you cant force war, like, it feels as if they tried to make expansion slow so you would focus on the econ game but the AI is so bad that you have to conquer land because they wont build up strategic resources.
Regarding japanese colonization - you can't even mod colony growth if they're adjacent. Everything is based on population - hence why you see the USA with a third of africa by 1860 or GB controlling nearly all of central/southern africa by 1860. Irks me as there wasnt any push to colonize africa until the 1870s and 1880s. Or trying to colonize africa with an african nation and being bitch slapped by malaria (compared to euro countries that can ignore it at nearly the start of the game) I feel like there was next to no testing when it comes to colonization ;/
I would like to see you play Central America. That shit its impossible. You don't even have Logging Camps. The country is dividing and its probably just 1 year before the first Central American Nation secedes.
Groceries are not needed if you want to produce food build farms. Food industries provide luxury food, and they consume basic food to do so, so they are inneficient if your goal is to feed your population
Watch this from the Turkish perspective here: th-cam.com/video/FrHTFV1io3k/w-d-xo.html
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nice
Don't mobilise in diplomatic play as they are scared, you don't learn your lessons from US vids
@@nguyenhan2145 you right! This video though was recorded a long time ago, most of my vids have 3 weeks delay at this point xD
I'd rather not D:
So fun fact in that Brazil alliance, Emperor Pedro I of Brazil was actually one of the candidates to the Greek throne after the war of independence. The greeks had no say on the choice tho, only the great powers of Europe and Brazil had a good relation with Britain. They eventually chose the second son of the Bavarian king but the ideia of a Brazilian-greek empire gotta be one of the strangest personal unions of history lmao
Only second to the Brazilian-French empire if the house of Orleans still was in power, since the Brazilian crown princess was married to the French Orleansist pretender.
Brazil has some interesting dynastic moments in history
@@studyfail also Portugal, Brazilian throne is a part of Portuguese dynasty
@@ahmetemregurdal501 well yes, the braganças! The first Brazilian emperor became the king of Portugal after his father died!
@@studyfail
How the turntablea
@@prestonjones1653 its is so because of napilion when napoleon invaded Portugal the Portuguese emperor escaped to Brazil when napolian was defeter the emperor returned to Portugal and let his son to rule Brazil after his death his son has to chose Portugal or Brazil he chose brazil
I think EU4 has conditioned me to not want to be protectorate but damn, joined France as a protectorate as Papal States and easily formed Kingdom of Heaven (Italy when formed by pope I guess?) x) The huge French market also allowed me to rush for colonialism without issues and managed to grab a huge chunk of the colonial land across the globe! Point is becoming a protectorate as a weaker nation is not at all a bad thing should NOT be underestimated!
I became a british protectorate as Argentina and i dominated America
Back then thessaly was indeed very populated compared to other places, however in vic3 thessaly is unrealistic since it contains epirus as well
thats correct now more than half of the population lives in athens
@@spymaster3366 pretty much
*Southern Epirus
Your videos are so helpful, I have literally have most of my achievements in paradox games because of you!!
Glad to hear it!
In a run I did with Austria/Germany I got to be #1 Great Power and had this "fearful" problem too, but I notice that if you don't move your armies to the fronts until the very end, there is a chance that your enemies would actually want to fight you. But I only got to test this in overseas wars, so there is a chance it might not work with border wars. Also in overseas wars if you manage to start the war, is very probable that your armies won't make it on time to defend the frontlines so there are some risk on doing that.
My issue with my Greece game was the same. Every time I went to war, the Ottomans caved and gave me one province. So it was a long slog to get all of the provinces back.
If you want a hard campaign, u should try one of the arabian nations, they have 0 resouces
petrol empire
i donnu if it counts but on first patch, i tried moroccan game became the number 1 great power and managed to also get 1Bil GDP, france and UK were my bitches
@@evanmedi6144 I mean the nations in the Arabian peninsula, they have almost no agriculture and 0 wood and iron, which is the main thing u need.
@@slickyblicky1711 It's really not that bad. I did a campaign trying to make Saudi Arabia and it was pretty easy. You just try to get into Britain's custom union, build up your industry with their resources and then leave them when they start to collapse near 1880
Just woke up and saw a Ludi Vic 3 video - great stuff, my favorite type of video as of right now
Hope you enjoyed it!
My strategy:
1. Research the military tech
2. Build a lot of Iron mine + tool workshop
3. Be friend with Ruskies, Austria & France
4. Taking Crete when Egypt warring again turks
5. Return thesally and take thesalonika with turks, try to sway out or in the power
6. I will form byzantine probably around 1865-1875
Something you can try if you haven't already.
Enact the colonial resettlement instead of the colonial exploitation. That gives 100% migration attraction to unincoorporated states.
So if you use greener grass campaign in a non core state you get 200% migration attraction. Which i pretty op (trust me.)
this is a pretty bad move. your colonies having higher attraction than your homeland just means all your people leave for land you don't get to tax them in. you want people to move to your home states. not your colonies.
Damn, Ludi creating the Greek wet dreams, my ancestors would be proud.
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Ludi asking if there’s an oversight by PDX for this game is absolutely sending me. They basically sold the game that way
Germans taking on Greek debt?
HISTORICALLY ACCURATE GAME BOIS
bruh i thought the same lol
Because of you I took on the Greek challenge .., truly difficult start but I made them a powerhouse. Thanks for the tips!
Great video! Love it!
I can’t imagine how good this game would be if it ran like this on my pc.
17:24 my neighbors dogs started barking. Thank you. lol jkjk
"Kebabium" with an image of Vlad the Impaler... man actually went there
Ludi be catching me off guard with the "schnapple-doops" and "schnitzel-dorfs".
sittin in a lecture and just burst out laughin
oi, pay attention to class or I'm gonna schnapple doop you!
Please continue the byzantium run, thank you
This was my first country on release. I feel like any nation after Greece as your first country is a cakewalk.
Japan has entered the chat
We kebabs liked the video with tears on our eyes
Ζήτω η Ρωμανία! Ζήτω η ανολοκλήρωτη επανάστασις! Ζήτω η Ελλάς! Long live Rhomania! Long live the unfinished revolution! Long live Hellas! Thanks for playing with Greece Ludi! 🇬🇷❤🇹🇩
Awesome how this game acknowledges the Greek population that was still around while EU4 ignores it and makes it all Turkish. It's not like the Nationalism CB would be that useful since you already have a Reconquest one and the culture of the locals was something that the Ottomans had to deal with so it makes just one less problem for them. Since the game wants the Otto guys to be a starter nation, that would be a good time to learn about having other cultures in your country and how to deal with it. I get that the culture system is different in EU4 and that a province is usually just labeled as whatever the majority is but there were places that were still majority Greek (especially the islands in the area). Of course Zoroastrianism gets this treatment too, but they still leave in the holy site in India with nothing but Sunni and Hindu in the area. Maybe just another case of being unable to show a minority. I guess the point I'm driving at is that Victoria has a slightly better culture mapping system than EU4, not that this takes away from EU4 too much but it's still something to note when using RTS games to learn your history, like I tend to do these days (despite knowing that half of it is doctored for game design reasons). History as according to RTS games can be weird before you even hit play.
Was the greek population as low in the areas as seen in this video though or were there more of them at the time?
please do Nejd its literally the hardest start in the game
And no becoming a protectorate
Maybe it's because I hold degrees in Social and Cultural Anthropology and Social Work and thus tend to like your political views, but regardless of that, I am so happy that I found your channel and can enjoy your top-tier content. Your analyses and comments just give your videos that extra bit of something that separates average gaming channels from content Giants like you. Thank you for your efforts! 😅
awwww you too kind bro, thanks a million for watching my stuff ^^
@@legitplayin6977 straight to the facts - social-liberal I would say. It really depends on your own values and your social-cultural environment and your geographical standpoint (like literally). I am Austrian with Slovenian/Italian ancestry and was brought up in a humanistic household with mostly University-educated people in my family but my friends were from families who didn't value education that much and often were involved in criminal activities. I was a spoiled kid who hang out with the "troubled" kids, if you want. It's also hard to describe without writing an essay about the political, social, cultural, religious and scientific development of humans over the last couple hundred, maybe thousand years. I would consider myself politically liberal and economically social. Most people in my country would say I am almost extremly left wing. Austria went hard right politically speaking during the last 2 decades though, like most european countries. May I mention, we all (should) know how well it works out for Europe, if right wing people in Austria get too much "clout". It's not too long ago, that some little, addicted, frightened moron with a funny beard from Braunau got real popular in Germany, which set events in cause, that were less than beneficiary to say the least.
@@pompomdomdom what?
@@pompomdomdom LOL is that what you read out of it? Interesting... Well, I guess this is your way of being funny or being a jerk. That would be up to discussion.
Nah, I got a job. I work for Save the Children actually. Do you have a job or are you just being a troll?
The more cursed option for Saikhalin is the British colonizing it and Hokkaido.
Hey Ludi, I have an idea for a new playthrough (or challenge, if you want)
1. Playing as an island nation that is not Japan or the UK.
2. Focus heavily on trading.
3. Establish sea dominance and conquer most of the islands around the world.
Van Diemen's Land? Conquered the Pacific Islands including Taiwan and Japan, then took Ceylon, Socotra and Madagascar. Ran out of time to conquer Britain and Sjaelland.
I love how in Vicky 2 Greece always started in a bunch of debt. Topical.
You can use the Austrian empire to take a couple provinces from Egypt as you chisel down the ottomans, I like to ignore Cyprus and go for the Egyptian silk and then take a treaty port in Alexandria. At that point the Austrians won’t help you any more, so just make Egypt a puppet XD
YEEEEEES FINALLY HE DID IT !!!! thanks Ludi TT
if you time things right, you dont need the protectorate. With naval invasions and the Egyptian war you can walk beat them despite being outnumbered / poor. and once you have Thrace your economy is strong enough to be fine on its own plus you already get a lot of pre-built things
Vicky 3 needs the Tada song when nations form like that
You’re my king Ludi
Fain videoclip omule.
mersi frate
11:06 Gyros gang here, remove kebab
11 day of asking Ludi for a campaign with México
Bully him into doing it Never give up
And me i don't even ask feedback gaming play Colombia and he play it, hope he complete the achievement cus he form gran Colombia
little do you boys know I already recorded both colombia and mexico xD just waiting on me editors Q_Q
Could you please do a video playing Wallachia in vic3?
Thanks - Viewer from Romania
desigur frate ^^
I declared my first war when Egypt was winning against them. I didn't even need to call anyone. My troops walked into Ottoman lands unopposed because all their troops were fighting the Egyptians, and I got all my claims back in one war. They didn't back down because I didn't call in any great powers.
MOAR!!! Eastern Rome shall rule
You have to try the greece and Byzantium flauvor mod it ads a ton of journal entries
First my fruit gets poisoned now you have my bag?? Taking state roleplay to a whole new level
I'll play Vic III in a few years. Can't wait for it! 😃
You can see how fearful they are of you in the diplomatic play tab, so if they're very fearful of you to start with, you probably shouldn't call in your allies to the war
you should make a austria video ludi
I recently played a long playthrough on austria and they start off quite strong actually, but the only annoying thing is that i cant seem to enact multiculturalism or anything else except for national supremacy without having a revolution..
Any tips on that?
I mean all you need to do is build 30 barracks in attica get line infantry and have a general at level 1 so you have 10 in reserve use enlistment efforts in attica and you can just fight the ottomans immediately by yourself especially if you can get the armed forces loyal except the ottomans will assume that you cant so they will fight you and you can enforce all your war goals the first time.
Take on debt , life imitates art .
What type of colonization is better?
Ottos have peasant levies as army model. This means most of their army will be line inf no art at most. Also they probably suffer from lack of guns.
22:32- dont you know king Leonidas? You just did what he did on Termopil
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAA
The Tada Song really sounds like from the Game :D
Anyone else notice Ludi’s facial hair disappears at certain angles? W I S P Y
i am a creature from another dimension
Schrödingers Stache lol just taking the piss love the vids
I watch your video for the "HOLY SCHNAPPS"
Since starting to watch your videos I've gotten much better at the game lol. As Sokoto in Afrika I make 10k a month and rank 25 in world power. Starting to climb higher now lol.
Have you tried making Serbia great again? I wonder if it's doable 🙂
22:16- people love low taxes. So we in Poland have many low taxes, and many more to come
Do they have crisis or flashpoint tension you can support?
12:20 ~quote Abraham Lincoln
hey Ludi you should try Argentina!! Simulate it's growth until it became the number one power! (and then fell in reality w)
26:44 Brazil, zil, zil, zilllll!!
Can u bring Hamburg on rank 1? Its pretty ruff, but make the Hanse great again!!
Can you release countries from yourself like vassals in eu4 and if you can is it possible to play as the released nation
yes you can and yes you can
72th video of asking ludi for the first taungu empire achievement guide
I'm surprised they don't have an achievement for forming the Byzantine empire like other formable nations.
Try Argentina it's actually hard to play never thought it had less than a million pops
I kept waiting for him to take Cyprus.
Prussia immediately bankrolled me and has protective diplomacy. England invited me into customs union in 1837....... We back baby!!!!!!!
Can you play the rest of this game?
I started a war with an ottoman protectorat to get lands from the ottomans and got Austria on my site for becoming their protectorat
this happened to me in my America campaign and I wanted to fucking roll over and die it takes so long to get all those states when they just cave in every time.
If your primary goal is the enemy 's capital they can't back down and you can push for war with a ton of claims
Hey Ludi, I love the Vicky vids but when are you going to do more eu4 again? I like that game a lot more.
did Bavaria recently, got next video eu4 also!
I agree with you Amin Ommade. I am not a fan of Vic 3. But it really comes down to views. He is getting way more on VIc 3 videos than EU 4. Until that changes. Once a week is all we will probably get. Better than nothing.
TH-cam recommend Thai just 2 minutes after it aired
yt dont like me xD
26:46
You are Welcome 🇧🇷
Strange, in all my games Egypt lose this first war to Otto
Hi Ludi. What are u doing in Japan?
Hi ludi, i hope u will play Sardinia Piemonte to unify Italy, idk why, but i always used to like unifying Italy in eu4
CIRCASSIA PLAYTHROUGH LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
Fo hundred yeeeeears!!!!!!!
I lay Dormant!!!!!!!!!
Never mobilize anything before the war starts if you actually want to fight.
Haha from the Turkish perspective you say? :) thanks for another video, Ludi!
I'd love to see how form IBERIA - every time I try in the late game, I get so much INFAMY! Can you do it politically?
Thanks for the idea! Was thinking to do Philippines and form Iberia, won't be easy!
Wine is a separated good form liqueur
How do you know that the Egyptian only got line infantry ?
You can see other nations armies by clicking on their provinces and checking their barracks
Ahh yes Constantine XI Revenge
Where do the people migarting to the country come from? My guess is they come from the lands to conquer... and are ethnic greeks.
Second question: if greek has homelands i think they do not assimilate into turkish contrary to what he said in the beginning of the video.
I dont understand why you cant force war, like, it feels as if they tried to make expansion slow so you would focus on the econ game but the AI is so bad that you have to conquer land because they wont build up strategic resources.
Regarding japanese colonization - you can't even mod colony growth if they're adjacent. Everything is based on population - hence why you see the USA with a third of africa by 1860 or GB controlling nearly all of central/southern africa by 1860. Irks me as there wasnt any push to colonize africa until the 1870s and 1880s. Or trying to colonize africa with an african nation and being bitch slapped by malaria (compared to euro countries that can ignore it at nearly the start of the game)
I feel like there was next to no testing when it comes to colonization ;/
1 min, no thanks to you yt notifs
yt be hating bro
Insaaaaaane vidéo!!!
Good video
Thanks
back then most greeks weren't even living in greece, athens had more goat population than human
I would like to see you play Central America. That shit its impossible. You don't even have Logging Camps. The country is dividing and its probably just 1 year before the first Central American Nation secedes.
Video 49 of asking for a releasable Nitra tutorial.
Groceries are not needed if you want to produce food build farms. Food industries provide luxury food, and they consume basic food to do so, so they are inneficient if your goal is to feed your population
my actual goal is to feed the rich and make money really xD
So… what does forming Byz do exactly?
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I honestly think that 5 years truce in a game that runs 100 years is just too long. That is equivalent to a 20-year truce in EUIV.
Hmm yes lore of Vic 3 greater mengali idea momentum 100
I am just staying at Izmit, not gonna lie but i was surprised when the greeks came and started waving the byzantium flag
you now officially byzantine bro, sorry xD
for a nation that had almost nothing, it sure had lots of excess energy that translated into civil wars. national sport lol