Tank with the hybrid system and independent motors for each wheel would be a beast off road. The one tested is far from as capable as the hybrid would be. Interesting that BYD has developed an off roading all electric full sized SUV with actual on the spot turning and crab walking capability. That car can ford over rivers with entire car bonnet submerged. Truly that car BYD Yangwang is another level of off roading SUV.
Interesting, but speculative. I'm yet to see anything like that and BYD certainly is WAY out of "value for money" cars that I research and focus on. Never say never though, if they reached out etc I'd be happy to take an honest look.
Hey mate thanks for the review I also want a tank 300.... to me they look like an impressive 4x4....I currently drive a hilux.... I have also been a toyota man for about 20 years.... but im willing to give the tank a go for awhile as it's just impressive all round....
Yep agree with you mate. I'm not sold on the hybrid part of it (and higher price tag than the petrol version would have), but still think it's a great value for money car - once it finally arrives in AU
@Value Cars Australia.. For the exta bucks you get so much more.... front locker extra torque down low (hybrid) and there's extra options in the cab as well.... At this stage there only doing the hybrid version first here in Australia.... so both the lux and the ultra will be hybrid but there bringing the standard petrol variant later down the track.... the hybrid variant is available for test drive mid this month and im booked in 😁 Mind you I won't be buying on the day, im probably going to wait 6 months or so for 2 reasons... 1. I want to see if there's any major reports of faults from the first round arriving mid this month and 2 GWM are also bringing the shanhai cannon and tank 500 to Aussie land by the end of the year.... Im happy to take a look and a test drive of all of them before I make any rush decisions..... but googling all of them I like the tank 300 the most so far.... 👍😁🍻
Thanks mate, I'm on the lookout for interesting teardowns and reviews all the time - I don't want to "just translate whatever" - trying to keep it relevant for fellow Aussies.
Just so you know, Tank 300 in Australia starts ate $46,690 on the road with 7 years unlimited kilometer warranty and set price servicing. Currently Tank Basic with "Diff Lock" is cheaper on the road than a 2022/2023 Jimny. Also Ultra Tank 300 with front and back diff locks is around $52,000 on the road with all the luxuriesa. I think your $55,000 base price is for the Electric Tank 300 Hybrid, which is more power than you need. Ive seen Tank at work and have been driving Jimny and Siuerras since 1986. My opinion is Suzukji gouged buyers and too late, people are walking away, because there is no copmparisonm between any Tank Model and the best jimny Model. Tank wins hands down. Ive been driving Jimny daily since 2009, just one car, before 2009 to 1985 I also had Jeep Turbo which I sold
I think Tank wins all-round too, but this was a fun comparison of the off-roading capabilities specifically. Obviously on utility, size, general use for the same-ish price tag Jimny is not even a competition.
@@ValueCarsAU yes, and remember Jimny should be under $25,000 msrp and selling for $45k for 2021 2022 models. We are not even in the same ball park with Suzuki gouging customers because of demand. When Tank gets known, Jimny will be back to under $25k but the 35 years plus owners like me (of many models of 4wds only) will remember when we wanted a new Jimny like me this year and sticker shock turned us away, Jimny is NOT worth the prices being asked and I thank GWM for introducing Tank as an alternative, because for me later this year "it is a no brainer". Tank hands down on paper and what I have seen on TH-cam, beats Suzuki by million miles, and I will NEVER buy another Jimny (present is 14 years old 118,000klms). I am only looking because an inheritance is "on the way" this year (millionaire sister died). One suggestion, why do you, not do a comparison with 3 door/5 door Deluxe Luxury Vitara 4wd and Tank $52k Ultra? Same price, same luxury but I bet very different off road testing. I am sold on Tank and your Review was the nail in Jimny's coffin. Like I said I was/am (when well) a Hard Core 4wd driver and Suzuki Sierra/Jimny owner since 1986, thats what Suzuki has lost for a bunch of random yuppies with pockets full of cash on a whim, Suzuki gouging customers like me
The most interesting thing in comparing these 2 cars is in terms of value for money besides sophistication, power, cabin comfort, handling and other features, it will be known which one is more worth buying.
As a 2013 Grand Vitara owner looking to upgragrade, the Jimney wasn't on my radar due to it's low power and towing specs. The Tank has more power and torque by far, is far superior in every way. It has twin lockers, Smarter off road 4x4 control and more refinement overall. It's a no brainer if I'm concerned... It's just a shame Suzuki decided to discontinue the Grand vitara with real off road capability. Now the Tank is the only option .. and it is by far superior! I ordered mine a few days ago... I'm both excited and sad at the same time. I'm excited to be getting a new vehicle and sad to be letting go of my 10 year old friend and companion.
Perfectly appreciate the sentiment mate, but the times have moved on, better options on the market as you said yourself, and Tank 300 so far looks like an amazing value for money, especially if you're going to do some off-roading, not just city driving.
Excellent review, sums up the pros and cons of off road versus day to day urban/rural driving very well. My personal choice from a logical point of view would be the Tank 300, from an emotional point of view the Jimny. However, I don't do a lot of off roading (but when I do I want a capable vehicle) and need my choice to be versatile and the Tank 300 (with All Terrain tyres) is confirmed as my top choice.
Wow they don't even give you off-road tires straight up, while the car is clearly a toy for off-road? I like it, don't get me wrong, just calling it for what it appears to be.
Ordered mine the day after they were announced in December last year with an expected delivery date of March/April. At this point there is still no confirmation from GWM of when they will have demo cars for dealers and press let some customer cars. 🙁 Some dealers are now even predicting they will have the petrol only version in stock before the hybrids. 🤯
Yep crazy mate, I spoke to my friends at the dealership and they were unclear on when Tank 300 would be in stock at all - no idea what caused this massive delay again
After seeing your doubts, I went to Chinese social media to find what they were saying. Turns out, the order cycle of tank 300 in China also takes 6 months.
G'Day Dimitri. Another great review. The Tank is really impressive and it looked very capable even with the highway tyres. Have you ordered yours yet? I imagine there will be a long wait for delivery. I'm not sure if anything is moving at the docks yet! I'm still looking at the H6 but I've noticed up in Queensland there are not many second hand vehicles yet. Maybe next month there may be a few available. Cheers again. Stay safe. Chris. 👍
Thanks Chris, no spare money here to order one just yet mate, and I'd hope they release petrol version in Australia that would hopefully be cheaper than the currently available Hybrid...
@carson I think off-road capabilities are comparable, with Jimny "winning" only based on its size and lack of features, aka "raw potential". But all-round purchase for people who need a car for every-day use AND some off-roading, Tank 300 would blow Jimny out of the water any day of the week.
@wosam Wrangler is exorbitantly priced these days in Australia and I can't wait for Tank 300 to be available properly all over the place AND for them to introduce a petrol version (cheaper, hopefully) that would - perhaps? - tell Jeep to get off their high horse and get back to the old pricing strategy and baseline.
@Value Cars Australia I agree with you 100% . especially with the terrible safety and reliability of Wrangler . I do believe the Chinese pretty much got the value end of the market locked down
Great video. As a user of a Cruiser 79 V8 for work I can say there is no situation where a Jimny should be considered for anything. There is only one consideration, safety, and the Jimny has none. I expect that the Tank will come with a full suite of safety features and actual design integrity. Now the Tank will not be a workhorse like the Cruiser but at least it won't actively try and kill you like the Suzuki or Mahindra for that matter.
Hey Darron thanks mate, and I agree - JIMNY IS A TOY. It's not a car. Yeah, started saving up my bickies as you said for a Tank 300 Petrol - as I'm very much hoping it'll come some time in not so distant future and the baseline price would be $10k lower than unnecessary Hybrid.
@@clayliu2279 "Prices are due to be confirmed closer to the petrol model's launch expected in mid-2023, however Drive has previously reported it may be more then $10,000 cheaper than the hybrid, which costs $55,990 to $60,990 drive-away."
I'm surprised that you and/or the Russian reviewer say that the TC & electronic gizmos of the Jimny do not extract the vehicle from the crossed axles situation. I'm saying this because the basic AllGrip system on my Suzuki Ignis (2019) works very well and got me out of everything including axle crossing situations. And Ignis has the entry level AllGrip system, doesn't have a low range and I can't imagine that the most advanced AllGrip system on the Jimny is so weak. Maybe we were lost in translation a bit there 😊
I think it's more of an omission or lack of reviewer's knowledge, rather than "lost in translation" as you'd have to trust that I translate "using my own words but very close to the original meaning".
Very interesting review... I have own 3 Suzukis a 1 Ltr 4 speed manual, a 1.3L 5 speed manual and a 1.6L 1991 vitara .. and found all 3 to be very captable in th bush. The Tank 300 looks very interesting and would like to see a more rubust version come out where the focus is on the 4x4 rather than on road.
I think Tank 300 is pretty "focused on 4x4" as far as I have gathered from this review, follow-up off-road test and earlier full disassembly of the vehicle
Used and ex-Demo Jimny’s are being sold above LIST price in Australia due to extreme demand. If you get on the waiting list with an honest dealer (and are willing to wait 6 months for your order) you can pick one up new for about $30k. Some dealers are abusing their customers by selling new pre-ordered cars as ex-demo so they can inflate the price, and advising their pre-order customers that their vehicle has been delayed.
People are crazy. End of the story. They'll convince themselves that something - like Apple iPhone - is superior to other "just as good if not better" products and will fall over to try and get those. It's sad really.
Love your video, Thankyou for the comparison , I’ve owned 3 suzi’s over the years love them, but the tank looks good something to think about. What I hate about the tank is the blinkers hard to use I think seen on another persons preview. Needs some reel thought on that otherwise I love the Tank.
Yep I agree on the stupid blinkers and not a fan of their generic GWM electronics including the lane-keeping function and others I've hated in my H6. If you love Jimny's, you will enjoy my upcoming translation of a Jimny disassembly video!
Jimny may not make much sense in certain comparisons, but it just one of those cars that have that feel good factor like no other other car. It is a happy car!😃 Hence the cult following worldwide almost like the old VW Beetle. The auto Jimny is a great city runaround car with decent fuel economy, especially here in South Africa 🇿🇦 where the roads are deteriorating.
No, I don't agree at all. I've never had my Jimny overspeed on hill descent. You apply descent control THEN proceed down the hill. It applies the brakes as needed so as long as you have traction it will work. Speed is 5km/h in low range, and 10km/h in high range. It's useful for slippery slopes because the system can brake all four wheels independently. You still have normal braking as well. If you need to go slower than 5km/h for a difficult descent then you will still need to use your 4WD skills. The reviewer did not understand how the Jimny brake traction control (BTC) works, or he was deliberately making it look harder than it was. You have to be in low range. When the computer detects a wheel has no traction it applies the brakes to that wheel to send power to the wheel on the ground. You have to drive it differently, especially if you park it with a wheel off the ground. You said "turn ABS off" but I think you mean ESC - electronic stability control. ESC doesn't work in 4WL, and BTC doesn't work in 4WH. You can only turn ESC off in high range when going under 30km/h. Personally I would prefer a 4WD with diff locks since that is what I am used to (I had Detroit differential locks before this), but the Jimny BTC works perfectly for such a light vehicle. The Jimny does have soft suspension, it's the short wheel base (2.2m) that makes it a bit bouncy on rough roads. Again, it's about driving it differently for the terrain, if bouncing around like a mountain goat is not your thing. The Jimny is also just great around town. Manoeuvrable, with a turning circle of 9 meters and an overall length of 3.5 meters it can go anywhere and park anywhere. It's a lot of fun to drive in town as well. The only four wheeled vehicles I know of with a tighter turning circle are things like the Smart fortwo, and none of those are intended to go off road. Where the Jimny is not great is on the highway at speed, especially if the roads are not very good. It is limited on high speed bends so has to be driven carefully. The short wheel base makes it twitchy, but I find the steering very direct even though a lot of reviewers complain about the steering box set up. The gen 4 (2018 onwards) has big advantages over the gen 3 with the 1.5L engine and a useful 5th gear (manual). It's still a bit noisy but I find it comfortable enough for long journeys of three or four hours, probably much longer. Overtaking requires planning, but is perfectly possible. The manual is probably better on the highway because the 5th gear ratio is higher than the 4th gear on the automatic. Used car yards are buying up new Jimnys and then trying to sell them as new for up to $10,000 over the ticket price. The GLX is (should be) under $40,000 including on-road costs, and the GL lite is under $35,000. I'd recommend the GL lite (manual only) as the only thing missing that a serious off-roader might miss is the 12V utility socket in the rear luggage compartment, if you really want to put a camping fridge back there. I don't recommend that anyone pays the stupid prices the car yards are asking for these vehicles. Even ten year old gen 3 vehicles are selling for stupid prices and I don't see the value in that. With the state of the used car market you are much better off ordering from the Suzuki dealer and waiting the six months for it to be delivered. Pro tip - buy the white one. All of the Jimnys panels are painted white at the factory. If you want the kinetic yellow one you will pay extra and wait much longer for it to be painted. I actually really like my white Jimny with black trim. Hate grey, and I think I would have got tired of the kinetic yellow eventually, plus the black roof looks like it might get a bit hot in Australia. I'm really loving my Jimny. It's great fun on the beach or in the bush, and it's even fun blasting around town in it.
Thanks for the generous write-up mate, I'm sure people more interested in Jimny would appreciate these insights. I still think Jimny (3 door model, at least) is a bit of a fun off-road TOY for adventuring mainly, and with some purposes to ride around town if you're single or a very young couple with a dog. I think Tank 300 will offer more value for money OVERALL, if we keep comparing (rather unfairly) to Jimny, as the passenger space and extras of comfort and luggage carrying capacity while offering same-ish 4x4 capabilities would definitely push it ahead of Jimny if someone was really considering one car vs. another.
Great video. I appreciate the translation, never heard of the tank before, looks very nice car, kind of reminds the new bronco from the back. Just to note one thing, in the diagonal tests, it's true the jimny has no differential lock, but it does have traction control. The abs is not turned off. The traction control works through the ABS system but the ABS as an emergency breaking device is not really related, they just work on the same system) so to clarify the ABS is not turned off, it's the esp (which also works through the ABS system) that is turned off (either automatically in 4x4 low or manually by pressing a button in 4x4 high) BUT the traction control which emulate the differential lock is always on regardless. About the hill decent control, most people don't use 4x4 low and first gear, so it does decent too fast. I own a manual jimny, and using first gear in 4x4 low, it's going down slow enough for most cases. Thanks for the video, Keep them coming!
There is the Jimmy xl which has five doors and more practical, would be nice they compare them, although suspect much the same. The tank is interesting 4x4. I brought the Jimmy xl recently and love it.
i think if the new 4 door jimny is released in OZ the tank 300 would lose a lot of sales, the tank looks much better inside and the tech is better but jimny has so many aftermarket parts
I think the difference is going to be in the interior space and pricing. Jimny is great now as a 3 door for what it is - an expensive off-road adventures TOY. Tank 300 is a more multi-purpose 4x4 SUV. Jimny 4 door kinda takes a swing at the market of offering more space, BUT it's not quite there anyway, AND it's very expensive. I don't see it as a win, to be honest.
I want to love Jimny but the price here (Indonesia) is a bit irrational. When it first come to Indonesia 2019-2020, the initial price was USD 22K, but in just two years the price is rose to 33K USD or more.
Jimny is a known quantity and it is reflected in its resale values. Its really very expensive for what it is and that it is made in India and not Japan. Tank 300 although a bit odd looking seems like really great value but who knows how long the veneer will last. Rust being a big concern with GWM products.
Thanks for commenting mate - well, in Russia they apply after-market anti-corrosion spray on pretty much any car, so that's taken care of and in Australia unless you live right by the sea it's probably not a concern either.
$47K for an auto Jimny! Could not believe what I am hearing! A friend have a Jimny that he took to camping, not impressed at all with the size, power, feature and comfort. It's like a toy car, It's only reasonable for about the 20K range given what it is.
If 4 adults are in the car, then its not left with more luggage option as the payload capacity is around 400kgs only. Hmm.... what happens if someone still loads luggage in the trunk with 5 adults??
Good question mate - they talk about it a lot. Short answer is - regardless of "sanctions" etc new cars find their way in, except the prices went way up because *SOME* suppliers can't trade with Russia directly, but need to go long way around - via UAE for example. Money always wins, and in this case - other than exorbitant prices - it's to general folks' benefit.
Great video thanks I really enjoy your videos👍. Will be interesting to see how the 4 door Jimmny compares to tank 300 when the time comes. Another point is the reliability of all those electronic assist in Tank 300, I suppose time will tell. The South African market is anxiously awaiting the launch of Tank300 which is imminent, already GWM Haval are making a great impact on the SUV segment here. I think if GWM made a pickup version of Tank 300 it's may fair better in sales than the current P series.
Yes it would be interesting to see how Suzuki Jimny 4 door lands in Australian market as the car is too expensive to be taken as something more than a 4x4 toy, and while 4 door would be more convenient to ride in with a family, it's still rather small AND expensive. So unless you're a brand supporter, why buy it, while there are plenty of other options? I don't see any reason to do it.
The thing that gets me with Chinese vehicles is their design language.They always look like copies of established brands, somehow this cheapens the experience for me. 0:49
On one hand - maybe, @randy, but most art and other prominent technology comes from someone's concept that got perfected by someone else. I like that Chinese brands are entering the market to keep the things affordable, while keeping up (pretty well anyway) with the quality race
chinese car will quickly getting better because the competition in chinese market is very harsh. so many company making cars, probably sooner or later half of them will be bankrupt or bought by other company. natural selection.
I like the look too but they are very bare-bones with zero comforts (by the present day standards) and zero space. I'd call it a cool "fun-time" car, not an every day car by a long stretch
@@ValueCarsAU it is for some countries where traffic is hellish and parking space is a challenge. i do agree tho that it's expensive for what it is, still sells like hot cakes where i am tho, for lady drivers, new drivers and for the points I've stated above.
Suzuki Jimny has become a cult vehicle and I'm not taking anything away from it performance or allure. But it has made the asking price asked ridiculously expensive.
Is that title a joke? definitely Tank 300, the jimmy doesnt compete with this offroad and even less if they are in Australia where there are so many brutally modified tank300 competing alongside a Rubicon, I am not saying that it is better or has the same capacity as the Jeep but there is nothing to do between a tank300 and a Jimmy... A thousand times tank300, it is beautiful and very very capable!
The Tank 300 has road tyres, the Jimmy has more aggressive off-road tyres, better at self clearing mud, not mud terrains but much better than the Tank's. No sane person takes a 4WD with city tyres into mud. I do like the Jimmy 2 door but you should be comparing a 4 door with a 4 door. You are comparing a Jeep Wrangler with a Cherokee or a Toyota 79 series SWB with a Prado.
Comparing this two vehicle is no make sense, jimny is a small category offroad vehicle and the tank is a big category. Yes jimny is a small 4x4 vehicle but he can do better in offroad even this vehicle is underdog.
@@ValueCarsAU Yes confirmed on their website base around 46k ultra 50k approx. Base hybrid 55k base ultra 60k still not in showrooms here but people like Subaru are worried and ringing leads everything else just to expensive in a depressed economy I think these will sell like hotcakes (off road tyres shown on au models)
Tank 300 looks like a hybrid copy of Jeep+Bronco. Seems weak for off-road. The only value you get is probably just the interior space, if you're pitching this against Jimny. But to compare it to other SUV of its own size, I don't know why anyone will fall for it.
@@油管大祭司 I can comment in the other video based on what's shown in that video. As for this video, I'm commenting based on what's shown in this video. This is the logical way to do things. Do you want me to interchange my comments so that people will be confused about my comments on both videos? How about you? Do you interchange comments between two separate videos?
You are totally wrong with the Jimnys pricing.If you order a car through a dealership you don't pay anywhere near the prices you mentioned. Try and do a little research.
Try and sound a little more respectful. I did my research, I shared what I found. People who are interested to buy can give dealerships their details if they want to be spammed after.
I would say rest in peace to Suzuki Jimny, regardless of those sentimental values it has to some people. Otherwise we'll continue to have expensive shitty cars shoved to us consumers.
What a video))) you ask for a respect before allow comment? But do you have respect to all the people on youtube posting such a promotion of a Chinese fake jeep? No. You don’t have any respect. Shame.
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Tank with the hybrid system and independent motors for each wheel would be a beast off road. The one tested is far from as capable as the hybrid would be.
Interesting that BYD has developed an off roading all electric full sized SUV with actual on the spot turning and crab walking capability. That car can ford over rivers with entire car bonnet submerged. Truly that car BYD Yangwang is another level of off roading SUV.
Interesting, but speculative. I'm yet to see anything like that and BYD certainly is WAY out of "value for money" cars that I research and focus on. Never say never though, if they reached out etc I'd be happy to take an honest look.
Hey mate thanks for the review I also want a tank 300.... to me they look like an impressive 4x4....I currently drive a hilux.... I have also been a toyota man for about 20 years.... but im willing to give the tank a go for awhile as it's just impressive all round....
Yep agree with you mate. I'm not sold on the hybrid part of it (and higher price tag than the petrol version would have), but still think it's a great value for money car - once it finally arrives in AU
@Value Cars Australia.. For the exta bucks you get so much more.... front locker extra torque down low (hybrid) and there's extra options in the cab as well.... At this stage there only doing the hybrid version first here in Australia.... so both the lux and the ultra will be hybrid but there bringing the standard petrol variant later down the track.... the hybrid variant is available for test drive mid this month and im booked in 😁 Mind you I won't be buying on the day, im probably going to wait 6 months or so for 2 reasons... 1. I want to see if there's any major reports of faults from the first round arriving mid this month and 2 GWM are also bringing the shanhai cannon and tank 500 to Aussie land by the end of the year.... Im happy to take a look and a test drive of all of them before I make any rush decisions..... but googling all of them I like the tank 300 the most so far.... 👍😁🍻
These translated content are interesting, especially teardown reviews. I am looking forward to seeing similar content in the future.
Thanks mate, I'm on the lookout for interesting teardowns and reviews all the time - I don't want to "just translate whatever" - trying to keep it relevant for fellow Aussies.
Just so you know, Tank 300 in Australia starts ate $46,690 on the road with 7 years unlimited kilometer warranty and set price servicing. Currently Tank Basic with "Diff Lock" is cheaper on the road than a 2022/2023 Jimny. Also Ultra Tank 300 with front and back diff locks is around $52,000 on the road with all the luxuriesa. I think your $55,000 base price is for the Electric Tank 300 Hybrid, which is more power than you need. Ive seen Tank at work and have been driving Jimny and Siuerras since 1986. My opinion is Suzukji gouged buyers and too late, people are walking away, because there is no copmparisonm between any Tank Model and the best jimny Model. Tank wins hands down. Ive been driving Jimny daily since 2009, just one car, before 2009 to 1985 I also had Jeep Turbo which I sold
I think Tank wins all-round too, but this was a fun comparison of the off-roading capabilities specifically. Obviously on utility, size, general use for the same-ish price tag Jimny is not even a competition.
@@ValueCarsAU yes, and remember Jimny should be under $25,000 msrp and selling for $45k for 2021 2022 models. We are not even in the same ball park with Suzuki gouging customers because of demand. When Tank gets known, Jimny will be back to under $25k but the 35 years plus owners like me (of many models of 4wds only) will remember when we wanted a new Jimny like me this year and sticker shock turned us away, Jimny is NOT worth the prices being asked and I thank GWM for introducing Tank as an alternative, because for me later this year "it is a no brainer". Tank hands down on paper and what I have seen on TH-cam, beats Suzuki by million miles, and I will NEVER buy another Jimny (present is 14 years old 118,000klms). I am only looking because an inheritance is "on the way" this year (millionaire sister died).
One suggestion, why do you, not do a comparison with 3 door/5 door Deluxe Luxury Vitara 4wd and Tank $52k Ultra? Same price, same luxury but I bet very different off road testing. I am sold on Tank and your Review was the nail in Jimny's coffin. Like I said I was/am (when well) a Hard Core 4wd driver and Suzuki Sierra/Jimny owner since 1986, thats what Suzuki has lost for a bunch of random yuppies with pockets full of cash on a whim, Suzuki gouging customers like me
The most interesting thing in comparing these 2 cars is in terms of value for money besides sophistication, power, cabin comfort, handling and other features, it will be known which one is more worth buying.
Yep I enjoyed their comparison too, even though cars are very different in every other way - 4x4 is what unites them
As a 2013 Grand Vitara owner looking to upgragrade, the Jimney wasn't on my radar due to it's low power and towing specs. The Tank has more power and torque by far, is far superior in every way. It has twin lockers, Smarter off road 4x4 control and more refinement overall. It's a no brainer if I'm concerned... It's just a shame Suzuki decided to discontinue the Grand vitara with real off road capability. Now the Tank is the only option .. and it is by far superior! I ordered mine a few days ago... I'm both excited and sad at the same time. I'm excited to be getting a new vehicle and sad to be letting go of my 10 year old friend and companion.
Perfectly appreciate the sentiment mate, but the times have moved on, better options on the market as you said yourself, and Tank 300 so far looks like an amazing value for money, especially if you're going to do some off-roading, not just city driving.
Excellent review, sums up the pros and cons of off road versus day to day urban/rural driving very well. My personal choice from a logical point of view would be the Tank 300, from an emotional point of view the Jimny. However, I don't do a lot of off roading (but when I do I want a capable vehicle) and need my choice to be versatile and the Tank 300 (with All Terrain tyres) is confirmed as my top choice.
Oh definitely Tank 300 would give you a lot more than Jimny. I found the original video fun though, hence the translation.
Mate the Jimny in Australia also comes with road tyres , all terrain tyres are something you have to buy later ( I have a Jimny and LOVE it )
Wow they don't even give you off-road tires straight up, while the car is clearly a toy for off-road? I like it, don't get me wrong, just calling it for what it appears to be.
Ordered mine the day after they were announced in December last year with an expected delivery date of March/April.
At this point there is still no confirmation from GWM of when they will have demo cars for dealers and press let some customer cars. 🙁
Some dealers are now even predicting they will have the petrol only version in stock before the hybrids. 🤯
Yep crazy mate, I spoke to my friends at the dealership and they were unclear on when Tank 300 would be in stock at all - no idea what caused this massive delay again
After seeing your doubts, I went to Chinese social media to find what they were saying. Turns out, the order cycle of tank 300 in China also takes 6 months.
Id rather get a tank 300 over a Wrangler when comparing the same sizes. Jimny is just too small for general car usage
Absolutely, no doubt about it
Makes more sense to have a jimny when your wife drives the family car.
G'Day Dimitri. Another great review. The Tank is really impressive and it looked very capable even with the highway tyres. Have you ordered yours yet? I imagine there will be a long wait for delivery. I'm not sure if anything is moving at the docks yet! I'm still looking at the H6 but I've noticed up in Queensland there are not many second hand vehicles yet. Maybe next month there may be a few available. Cheers again. Stay safe. Chris. 👍
Thanks Chris, no spare money here to order one just yet mate, and I'd hope they release petrol version in Australia that would hopefully be cheaper than the currently available Hybrid...
Obviously Jimny is doing much better job on off-road. Tank300 probably is the one for who mostly travels in the town but also likes off-road looking.
Specially with Hybrid engine looks like a good deal compared to Wrangler which is V6 only here in Australia, no diesel even 🤔
@carson I think off-road capabilities are comparable, with Jimny "winning" only based on its size and lack of features, aka "raw potential". But all-round purchase for people who need a car for every-day use AND some off-roading, Tank 300 would blow Jimny out of the water any day of the week.
@wosam Wrangler is exorbitantly priced these days in Australia and I can't wait for Tank 300 to be available properly all over the place AND for them to introduce a petrol version (cheaper, hopefully) that would - perhaps? - tell Jeep to get off their high horse and get back to the old pricing strategy and baseline.
@Value Cars Australia
I agree with you 100% .
especially with the terrible safety and reliability of Wrangler .
I do believe the Chinese pretty much got the value end of the market locked down
Great video. As a user of a Cruiser 79 V8 for work I can say there is no situation where a Jimny should be considered for anything. There is only one consideration, safety, and the Jimny has none.
I expect that the Tank will come with a full suite of safety features and actual design integrity. Now the Tank will not be a workhorse like the Cruiser but at least it won't actively try and kill you like the Suzuki or Mahindra for that matter.
Tank 300 is solid, there are videos in China where Tank 300 accidentally roll down off the hill slope.
@@chikinhsieh1503 Yes I am hoping Dmitri is saving up his bickies so he can buy one once they hit Australia and do some videos on it!
Hey Darron thanks mate, and I agree - JIMNY IS A TOY. It's not a car. Yeah, started saving up my bickies as you said for a Tank 300 Petrol - as I'm very much hoping it'll come some time in not so distant future and the baseline price would be $10k lower than unnecessary Hybrid.
The Mahindra has got better handling features then the Tank (made in china crap) ,and your V8 crusier is just a petrol guzzler thats all.
@@amuxpatch2798 diesel guzzler mate....
The Tank 300 will be coming to Australia with a petrol-only engine later this year which should be significantly cheaper possibly around the 45k mark.
$45k would be easier to swallow for a lot of consumers. Where is this information from?
@@ValueCarsAU price of Tank 3000 petrol-only in China market is from 43.5k to 48.5k AUD. So 45k for it in AU sounds like dreaming TBH.
@clay interesting insights, thank you
@@clayliu2279 I had posted a link to an article stating that it would be around 45k but YT must've deleted it.
@@clayliu2279 "Prices are due to be confirmed closer to the petrol model's launch expected in mid-2023, however Drive has previously reported it may be more then $10,000 cheaper than the hybrid, which costs $55,990 to $60,990 drive-away."
I'm surprised that you and/or the Russian reviewer say that the TC & electronic gizmos of the Jimny do not extract the vehicle from the crossed axles situation. I'm saying this because the basic AllGrip system on my Suzuki Ignis (2019) works very well and got me out of everything including axle crossing situations. And Ignis has the entry level AllGrip system, doesn't have a low range and I can't imagine that the most advanced AllGrip system on the Jimny is so weak. Maybe we were lost in translation a bit there 😊
I think it's more of an omission or lack of reviewer's knowledge, rather than "lost in translation" as you'd have to trust that I translate "using my own words but very close to the original meaning".
Very interesting review... I have own 3 Suzukis a 1 Ltr 4 speed manual, a 1.3L 5 speed manual and a 1.6L 1991 vitara .. and found all 3 to be very captable in th bush. The Tank 300 looks very interesting and would like to see a more rubust version come out where the focus is on the 4x4 rather than on road.
I think Tank 300 is pretty "focused on 4x4" as far as I have gathered from this review, follow-up off-road test and earlier full disassembly of the vehicle
Used and ex-Demo Jimny’s are being sold above LIST price in Australia due to extreme demand.
If you get on the waiting list with an honest dealer (and are willing to wait 6 months for your order) you can pick one up new for about $30k.
Some dealers are abusing their customers by selling new pre-ordered cars as ex-demo so they can inflate the price, and advising their pre-order customers that their vehicle has been delayed.
People are crazy. End of the story. They'll convince themselves that something - like Apple iPhone - is superior to other "just as good if not better" products and will fall over to try and get those. It's sad really.
Love your video, Thankyou for the comparison , I’ve owned 3 suzi’s over the years love them, but the tank looks good something to think about. What I hate about the tank is the blinkers hard to use I think seen on another persons preview. Needs some reel thought on that otherwise I love the Tank.
Yep I agree on the stupid blinkers and not a fan of their generic GWM electronics including the lane-keeping function and others I've hated in my H6. If you love Jimny's, you will enjoy my upcoming translation of a Jimny disassembly video!
Jimny may not make much sense in certain comparisons, but it just one of those cars that have that feel good factor like no other other car. It is a happy car!😃 Hence the cult following worldwide almost like the old VW Beetle. The auto Jimny is a great city runaround car with decent fuel economy, especially here in South Africa 🇿🇦 where the roads are deteriorating.
It's a happy car, I agree! I actually enjoyed this comparison (and it looks like a lot of other viewers did too)
It is good to see cars in other markets other than America or Aus.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
No, I don't agree at all. I've never had my Jimny overspeed on hill descent. You apply descent control THEN proceed down the hill. It applies the brakes as needed so as long as you have traction it will work. Speed is 5km/h in low range, and 10km/h in high range. It's useful for slippery slopes because the system can brake all four wheels independently. You still have normal braking as well. If you need to go slower than 5km/h for a difficult descent then you will still need to use your 4WD skills.
The reviewer did not understand how the Jimny brake traction control (BTC) works, or he was deliberately making it look harder than it was. You have to be in low range. When the computer detects a wheel has no traction it applies the brakes to that wheel to send power to the wheel on the ground. You have to drive it differently, especially if you park it with a wheel off the ground. You said "turn ABS off" but I think you mean ESC - electronic stability control. ESC doesn't work in 4WL, and BTC doesn't work in 4WH. You can only turn ESC off in high range when going under 30km/h. Personally I would prefer a 4WD with diff locks since that is what I am used to (I had Detroit differential locks before this), but the Jimny BTC works perfectly for such a light vehicle.
The Jimny does have soft suspension, it's the short wheel base (2.2m) that makes it a bit bouncy on rough roads. Again, it's about driving it differently for the terrain, if bouncing around like a mountain goat is not your thing.
The Jimny is also just great around town. Manoeuvrable, with a turning circle of 9 meters and an overall length of 3.5 meters it can go anywhere and park anywhere. It's a lot of fun to drive in town as well. The only four wheeled vehicles I know of with a tighter turning circle are things like the Smart fortwo, and none of those are intended to go off road.
Where the Jimny is not great is on the highway at speed, especially if the roads are not very good. It is limited on high speed bends so has to be driven carefully. The short wheel base makes it twitchy, but I find the steering very direct even though a lot of reviewers complain about the steering box set up. The gen 4 (2018 onwards) has big advantages over the gen 3 with the 1.5L engine and a useful 5th gear (manual). It's still a bit noisy but I find it comfortable enough for long journeys of three or four hours, probably much longer. Overtaking requires planning, but is perfectly possible. The manual is probably better on the highway because the 5th gear ratio is higher than the 4th gear on the automatic.
Used car yards are buying up new Jimnys and then trying to sell them as new for up to $10,000 over the ticket price. The GLX is (should be) under $40,000 including on-road costs, and the GL lite is under $35,000. I'd recommend the GL lite (manual only) as the only thing missing that a serious off-roader might miss is the 12V utility socket in the rear luggage compartment, if you really want to put a camping fridge back there. I don't recommend that anyone pays the stupid prices the car yards are asking for these vehicles. Even ten year old gen 3 vehicles are selling for stupid prices and I don't see the value in that. With the state of the used car market you are much better off ordering from the Suzuki dealer and waiting the six months for it to be delivered. Pro tip - buy the white one. All of the Jimnys panels are painted white at the factory. If you want the kinetic yellow one you will pay extra and wait much longer for it to be painted. I actually really like my white Jimny with black trim. Hate grey, and I think I would have got tired of the kinetic yellow eventually, plus the black roof looks like it might get a bit hot in Australia.
I'm really loving my Jimny. It's great fun on the beach or in the bush, and it's even fun blasting around town in it.
Thanks for the generous write-up mate, I'm sure people more interested in Jimny would appreciate these insights. I still think Jimny (3 door model, at least) is a bit of a fun off-road TOY for adventuring mainly, and with some purposes to ride around town if you're single or a very young couple with a dog. I think Tank 300 will offer more value for money OVERALL, if we keep comparing (rather unfairly) to Jimny, as the passenger space and extras of comfort and luggage carrying capacity while offering same-ish 4x4 capabilities would definitely push it ahead of Jimny if someone was really considering one car vs. another.
Good review and i like your presentation. Keep up the reviews.
Thank you, glad you're enjoying these
See so many Tank 300 traveling the Tibetan Plateau, which offers some of the toughest driving conditions in the world
Wow that's awesome to hear thank you
@@ValueCarsAU in china. They also have a limited release of Tank 300 equipped with 3.0 V6 engine.
Great video. I appreciate the translation, never heard of the tank before, looks very nice car, kind of reminds the new bronco from the back. Just to note one thing, in the diagonal tests, it's true the jimny has no differential lock, but it does have traction control. The abs is not turned off. The traction control works through the ABS system but the ABS as an emergency breaking device is not really related, they just work on the same system) so to clarify the ABS is not turned off, it's the esp (which also works through the ABS system) that is turned off (either automatically in 4x4 low or manually by pressing a button in 4x4 high) BUT the traction control which emulate the differential lock is always on regardless. About the hill decent control, most people don't use 4x4 low and first gear, so it does decent too fast. I own a manual jimny, and using first gear in 4x4 low, it's going down slow enough for most cases. Thanks for the video, Keep them coming!
Check out the latest off-road video about Tank 300, there's no Jimny there but it shows the car in a lot more intense testing conditions
great video,and I still waiting for your testing!
So do I!!! 🤣
There is the Jimmy xl which has five doors and more practical, would be nice they compare them, although suspect much the same. The tank is interesting 4x4. I brought the Jimmy xl recently and love it.
I personally think XL is butt-ugly (sorry). Original is classic, yeah, the new one is a weird abomination.
Very honest and i really like it.
Very glad to hear it, welcome to the little club!
Terrific content, thanks mate.
Appreciate your support mate
i think if the new 4 door jimny is released in OZ the tank 300 would lose a lot of sales, the tank looks much better inside and the tech is better but jimny has so many aftermarket parts
I think the difference is going to be in the interior space and pricing. Jimny is great now as a 3 door for what it is - an expensive off-road adventures TOY. Tank 300 is a more multi-purpose 4x4 SUV. Jimny 4 door kinda takes a swing at the market of offering more space, BUT it's not quite there anyway, AND it's very expensive. I don't see it as a win, to be honest.
itll only be a second, the tank has a lot of aftermarket parts, google some of the chinese vids they have some pretty serious offroad units
I want to love Jimny but the price here (Indonesia) is a bit irrational. When it first come to Indonesia 2019-2020, the initial price was USD 22K, but in just two years the price is rose to 33K USD or more.
Yep prices sky rocketed everywhere my friend, and it's absolutely annoying
Jimny is a known quantity and it is reflected in its resale values. Its really very expensive for what it is and that it is made in India and not Japan. Tank 300 although a bit odd looking seems like really great value but who knows how long the veneer will last. Rust being a big concern with GWM products.
Thanks for commenting mate - well, in Russia they apply after-market anti-corrosion spray on pretty much any car, so that's taken care of and in Australia unless you live right by the sea it's probably not a concern either.
Tank is a BEAST
Zero doubt about that
Nice video 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks mate!
Very good! Thank you!
Glad to hear you enjoyed!
Would be cool if they do 4 door jimny vs tank 300 now
They probably will, eventually
Good channel mate, thumbs uo!
Cheers mate!
good comparison and important points you raised
Glad to hear you liked it
$47K for an auto Jimny! Could not believe what I am hearing! A friend have a Jimny that he took to camping, not impressed at all with the size, power, feature and comfort. It's like a toy car, It's only reasonable for about the 20K range given what it is.
Completely agree, but Aussies are crazy
If 4 adults are in the car, then its not left with more luggage option as the payload capacity is around 400kgs only. Hmm.... what happens if someone still loads luggage in the trunk with 5 adults??
Watch my video called 'Tank can tow'. It shows you more on this exact topic.
JIMNY ❤
It's definitely making many people feel nostalgic! 😉
How is the new car shortage affecting the supply of cars in other parts of the world?
Good question mate - they talk about it a lot. Short answer is - regardless of "sanctions" etc new cars find their way in, except the prices went way up because *SOME* suppliers can't trade with Russia directly, but need to go long way around - via UAE for example. Money always wins, and in this case - other than exorbitant prices - it's to general folks' benefit.
@@ValueCarsAU Thanks very much for your reply and the interesting content on your channel.
Hi, what’s the tyres profile of the Jimny shown in the Vlog ?
Absolutely no idea, sorry
LOVE GISS LOCK!!
what are you on about?
tank300 ❤
Good car!
Great video thanks I really enjoy your videos👍. Will be interesting to see how the 4 door Jimmny compares to tank 300 when the time comes. Another point is the reliability of all those electronic assist in Tank 300, I suppose time will tell. The South African market is anxiously awaiting the launch of Tank300 which is imminent, already GWM Haval are making a great impact on the SUV segment here. I think if GWM made a pickup version of Tank 300 it's may fair better in sales than the current P series.
Yes it would be interesting to see how Suzuki Jimny 4 door lands in Australian market as the car is too expensive to be taken as something more than a 4x4 toy, and while 4 door would be more convenient to ride in with a family, it's still rather small AND expensive. So unless you're a brand supporter, why buy it, while there are plenty of other options? I don't see any reason to do it.
Might as well get one of those construction trucks if you're worried about electronic assists breaking down long term 😂
The thing that gets me with Chinese vehicles is their design language.They always look like copies of established brands, somehow this cheapens the experience for me. 0:49
The Tank 300 was released in China almost a year before the new Bronco was unveiled. If anything it’s the Fred which is the copy. 🤣
On one hand - maybe, @randy, but most art and other prominent technology comes from someone's concept that got perfected by someone else. I like that Chinese brands are entering the market to keep the things affordable, while keeping up (pretty well anyway) with the quality race
chinese car will quickly getting better because the competition in chinese market is very harsh. so many company making cars, probably sooner or later half of them will be bankrupt or bought by other company. natural selection.
@@breadnewbie6326 But Japan chopsticks are quality then Chinese chopsticks.
@@amuxpatch2798 depends how much you want to pay ，pay expensive u can get very good quality chopsticks from China 😎
Is GWM planning on releasing an EV version of Tank 300??
No idea
tank300 is probably the first genuinely competetive chinese designed passenger vehicle
I don't think it's first, as H6 is pretty good too, but as a 4x4 - yes, agreed
@@ValueCarsAU
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HAVAL H9
Love your show and the way they test cars in Russia.
Thanks mate, I enjoy those videos too (which is why I occasionally translate them)
jimny is a great city car for easy parking & they look cooler than a corolla
I like the look too but they are very bare-bones with zero comforts (by the present day standards) and zero space. I'd call it a cool "fun-time" car, not an every day car by a long stretch
@@ValueCarsAU it is for some countries where traffic is hellish and parking space is a challenge. i do agree tho that it's expensive for what it is, still sells like hot cakes where i am tho, for lady drivers, new drivers and for the points I've stated above.
Tank available in diesel?
Don't think so
If only
Suzuki Jimny has become a cult vehicle and I'm not taking anything away from it performance or allure. But it has made the asking price asked ridiculously expensive.
Completely 100% agree
Is that title a joke? definitely Tank 300, the jimmy doesnt compete with this offroad and even less if they are in Australia where there are so many brutally modified tank300 competing alongside a Rubicon, I am not saying that it is better or has the same capacity as the Jeep but there is nothing to do between a tank300 and a Jimmy... A thousand times tank300, it is beautiful and very very capable!
Yes it's kinda a tongue in cheek comparison - obviously - but the vehicles have a lot of purpose-based similarities.
What is stopping Russia to make Lada look modern like a Tank?
No idea why don't you go ask them? 🤷♂️
The Tank 300 has road tyres, the Jimmy has more aggressive off-road tyres, better at self clearing mud, not mud terrains but much better than the Tank's. No sane person takes a 4WD with city tyres into mud.
I do like the Jimmy 2 door but you should be comparing a 4 door with a 4 door. You are comparing a Jeep Wrangler with a Cherokee or a Toyota 79 series SWB with a Prado.
I've translated what they've compared, and enjoyed it. Tons of other people seem to have as well. Sorry it didn't meet your high standards.
Comparing this two vehicle is no make sense,
jimny is a small category offroad vehicle and the tank is a big category. Yes jimny is a small 4x4 vehicle but he can do better in offroad even this vehicle is underdog.
makes sense if you are in russia where the 2 cost the same and you probably didnt finish the video:p
@@alexxu3004 no he clearly didn't
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GWM Australia have added PETROL ONLY models
Have they? I've missed the news on this
@@ValueCarsAU Yes confirmed on their website base around 46k ultra 50k approx. Base hybrid 55k base ultra 60k still not in showrooms here but people like Subaru are worried and ringing leads everything else just to expensive in a depressed economy I think these will sell like hotcakes (off road tyres shown on au models)
Tank 300 looks like a hybrid copy of Jeep+Bronco. Seems weak for off-road. The only value you get is probably just the interior space, if you're pitching this against Jimny. But to compare it to other SUV of its own size, I don't know why anyone will fall for it.
Check out the latest translated off-road crazy test involving Tank 300 and let me know if it still looks "weak" for off-road 🤣
I'm commenting on this video. You want me to put a comment here regarding another video?
@@allanbernabe38 装睡的人永远叫不醒，博主只是提醒你看看TANKE300的越野视频
So what you are doing here is just a black campaign bro, nothing more than that.. lol
@@油管大祭司 I can comment in the other video based on what's shown in that video.
As for this video, I'm commenting based on what's shown in this video.
This is the logical way to do things. Do you want me to interchange my comments so that people will be confused about my comments on both videos?
How about you? Do you interchange comments between two separate videos?
You are totally wrong with the Jimnys pricing.If you order a car through a dealership you don't pay anywhere near the prices you mentioned.
Try and do a little research.
Try and sound a little more respectful. I did my research, I shared what I found. People who are interested to buy can give dealerships their details if they want to be spammed after.
@@ValueCarsAU Looking at car sales isn't research. It's called being lazy.
I would say rest in peace to Suzuki Jimny, regardless of those sentimental values it has to some people. Otherwise we'll continue to have expensive shitty cars shoved to us consumers.
I think due to the strong Jimny culture and people with a lot of spare cash, it's way WAY too early to say RIP Jimny.
Jimny
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Why 2 doors jimny ..where is the 5 doors jimny..
Idk where it is, have you lost yours? 🙄
2 door compared to 5 doors tank 😂
What has to be compared is that in almost the same price range, you think a 5-door Jimny is the same price as a 3-door... lol
Реалный тест, а не заказной
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Спасибо, посмотрю, и может переведу если местным англоязычным будет интересно
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Jimny is so overpriced.
For the little that it is - absolutely agree!
What a video)))
you ask for a respect before allow comment? But do you have respect to all the people on youtube posting such a promotion of a Chinese fake jeep? No. You don’t have any respect. Shame.
What a stupid, myopic comment. I'm not even gonna block you so that people can still see it and laugh at how limited you are. Thank you! Good laugh!