A Hack job is a hack job, no matter who did the work. I know a great many "unlicensed" people that do great work, with pride. I also know many "licensed" people that I would run from. The point is if they take pride in their work.
Unlicensed are breaking the law already; how can you make a claim if you hired the unlicensed person? I get your point by the way and pretty much agree with you!
In Illinois, there is no license for hvac. EPA card is all you need to open an account and buy refrigerants. Can pull permit in all towns with insurance and bond.
Not sure what is meant by unlicensed or licensed anyways. No such thing here in Illinois unless you mean boneded and insured which doesnt mean anything all you have to do is pay the fees for that and still be a hack of all hacks. Yes you do however need an epa certification but again anyone can get that in an hour and pay a fee and its good for life. I have been in the field for 20 years commercial and residential repairing systems like VRF. There is nothing wrong with a guy doing side work if he has the experience. Being licensed or unlicensed makes no difference. To be compeletly honest you will have better luck with someone who is a true professional doing side work than a fresh tech from that big residential outfit that is also charging 2x the price. Just get everything in writing and ask for a warranty in writing. Usually the warranty is the manufacture warranty anyways that will cover everything but labor for a minimum of 5 years usually longer.
I wish people would stop installing these things in the attic. We should be picking an easy location for someone to work on it. This job is hard enough. Thanks again. BTW the ringing phone non-stop is a good thing.
My days of fixing stuff like that are over. I got fed up with customers getting the hacks for cheap then thinking I should get it working for cheap. I price myself put of this kind of work
Very accurate! When they get it cheap, they think the repairs or total re-do is supposed to be cheap also, and get upset, but remember they found the hack for a reason. “Most” landlords are terrible and don’t even want to pay a hack his price. I mean, I don’t see a rental price section in Lowes where you get lumber cheaper because it’s a rental. Unfortunately it’s not going away.
Wow Curtis, I really love that disconnect at the air handler, before I did any work on this system, I’m pretty sure I would have to call code compliance. What a hack job!
Just had a customer so the same thing. He paid $5000.00 for a new “system “and got a damaged condenser and a paint job on the air handler. Everything leaked, dangerous electrical and condensate line that won’t drain. Of course the “installer” can’t be found
Right someone that takes pride of its work licensed or not it's going to do a right job, also some cheap customer they hire a handy man or they do the job themselves... I had experience where they asked me how and where the things its going to be the 2 weeks later the general contractor was asking me for its share for a job I didn't do xDD
I was in new construction and retro for 18 years. Switched careers when the housing market crashed. Miss those days but now I get to relive it through your videos. Thanks for sharing.
I especially loved the attic disconnect plan. Also, a wonderful idea in leaving the old equipment in the attic. Noticed 100% flex ducting vs. rigid ducting with flex. I wonder if they installed a filter location. So the condenser compressor was burned out? Looked fairly new so it likely wasn't charged correctly etc.
I came across where a license contractor ripped off some older lady which her husband passed away . I was able to get her money back I told her to tell the company that ripped her off that she was going to call the hvac inspector to come and check the job they done. The following morning the contractor showed up with her money and I end up changing her equipment.
I get frustrated and call lots of equipment garbage, and the truth is some of it is garbage, bad manufacturing ideas, but the 90% of the time when it's garbage, it's because it was all hack and wacked in like this. You feel bad for a customer but they also should have had the right guy out there in the first place.
I hear that all the time. Customer knows a guy that can do it cheaper. Cousins fathers brother did hvac for 800 yrs. Said we are way to expensive. Almost a guarantee to either return for a fix or replacement very soon. Just as bad as the customer thinking a manufacturer parts warranty covers labor someone hacked installed
The license does insure that you have the technical ability, and experience to do the job safely. No amount of testing can detect unethical behavior, sadly.
Customer try to cut corners by being cheap, will receive work that is cheap. Universe will boomerang back to you what you put out. For the most part, I don't feel any sympathy for the homeowner. 👍
Been in the HVAC trade for 42 year's. Navy trained and Local 487 journeyman certification received in 2000. I've seen some hack jobs in my day, this one is in the top 5 of all time. P-trap outside does as much good as a condensing unit does inside. USELESS! I hope that client got it installed properly and by code. Thanks for the blooper at the end btw.
Heat is overrated. Lol. The guy probably even thinks of himself as a great Hvac tech. I see the same crap in the midwest. People using solder or plumbing copper for linesets. Then they want it fixed for next to nothing. Never pays to cheap out on an install. Penny wise but pound foolish. That's like me pulling a splinter out of my finger and saying I'm a surgeon. Lol. Good video.
Lol exactly, I'm in chicago and everyone pays cheap and wants to know why they have a garbage install and complains everyone is too expensive. I always say you get what you pay for.
Not necessarily. I called the exact same "professionals" who originally installed the system when the house was built. He replaced the system saying it had gone bad. Ok it was old so $5,000 spent. Then, I would always call him to service it right? Just a few tears later he said I needed a whole new blower motor. Now we're looking at $3,000 MORE. Next time he serviced it I complained it was leaking through the ceiling and he said ok and then said he fixed it. it still leaked and I had to put a large 30 gallon trash can under the ceiling to collect all the water. Here I am now with a HUGE hole in my ceiling where the water leaked caused it fall to the floor and water was practically pouring out of my ceiling!!! The next time I complained to him about the hvac system leaking EVERYWHERE he said I should call a plumber!! So much for the professional. I am here now on utube to FIX this myself FOR FREE! ( well. Plus the cost of the tools and the parts.)
@@ranakeen9884 Why didn't you purchase an extended Parts/Labor warranty. They come with 5, 10 and even 12 years. Small investment saves lots of money. Don't get builder contractors. Most are bad.!
@@bobboscarato1313 you know where you stick your warranty? HVAC is a scam. The price of heat pump is $2000 they wanna charge me almost 15000. I just read instructions and install it by myself when something goes wrong I can replace indoor or outdoor unit and it will be cheaper than paying Pros for their labor
We should be putting secondary safety switches on primary drain pan. I've seen people almost never have problems with water when given the appropriate safety switches on primary and secondary pans. They cost like 10-15 bucks so it's not worth it to not install them.
I’ve ran into this with home warranty company crap. Installed a new goodman AHU with 410A txv on r-22 Lennox outdoor. Reason was the evap coil was leaking. I replaced the txv and got it going.
so what was the final outcome? did you fix it? ive installed air handlers without heat strips because they were using it for the soul Purpose of cooling because they had a heating system boiler heat or once a restaurant that needed cooling in the back area. i couldn’t tell if that was their only source for cooling/ heating. that unit needed to be hung or at least bricks underneath it if they were going to be lazy and not raise it with all thread and uni strut. Also that pee trap needed done that electrical box need to be mounted. overall the install really needed to be redone and start over. people just don’t care anymore licensed or not quality work just isn’t there anymore. I look at very few jobs and I can say to a homeowner who ever installed this did a great job.
It's experience that homeowners should be looking for, not the cheaper job. They reap what they sow. Did they save money like they were trying to do? Nope. The principle here is hire people that are experienced with good reviews, period. I don't feel sorry for these customers....they got what they paid for...or they put it in themselves.
I agree you should always go with someone who someone else has had a good experience with. Sometimes the cheapest price is actually the way to go. Just depends on who is doing the work. I can tell you this a lot of the time I am the best deal depends on if I'm just trying to keep myself and my guy busy how easy the job is. How bad I really want to do it. I know for a fact it's gonna get done right and their won't ever be a call back. Every job is different just like every customer is different.
@@bentrujillo6406 I'm a one man shop and I charge the same as the bigger companies because we only have a certain amount of time and energy in a day as one guy. Get as much as you can and let the quality be the best around then listen to the phone ring non-stop.
@@dylandrymond3839 I'm the same way I don't have call backs and the people spread my name... I wish sometimes I had employees because of the work I let go because I don't have the time but employees bring headaches I had 3 pre covid. Not everyone has my standards.
Had a heat call at 3AM told customer service call would be $175 for 1st hour we don't take checks and no credit cards the response was that's alot of money I said well we provide alot of heat Is your house cold yes was the response mine isn't good night click I hung up my wife said who was that El Cheapo morale of the story I don't work for free I've been doing this work for 30 years a license don't mean nothing cause when I get to a job and there multiple problems as far as a hack job I walk cause they want you to give them a break cause the other guy screwed them I don't deal with cheap customers who have a BMW or Caddillac in their driveway but I will always help someone on a fixed income elderly or a veteran
I have had crap like this, the customer will say can't you fix it cheerios I just paid $xxxx.00 have it installed. Want me to fix the crap some jack-leg f///Ed up. I can fix it cheap or I can fix it right. I cannot fix it right and cheap.
I'm a landlord that does my own installs.....had to because these clowns wanted 8k for a 2 ton split. I was doing them for $1850.00 So far I'm on number 10 over 4 years and have yet to have a problem due to an installation hack. It's been really nice not having to get overcharged for service calls for 6 dollar caps.
@@fuzzyvision1219 the only reason you would have water come through your ceiling is because you undersized your pan, didn't install a drain line on said pan, didn't install a secondary drain on top of the primary that might get plugged.. I don't have issues like that because the stuff is so easy to install that a monkey could do it.
I hate people like you. Lol you act like just because the equipment cost 2k they are suppose to do the work for 2k like they got insurance to pay for warranty on system, employees to pay for, the, tools, gas, oil all that. But yet you charging your tenants 4xs the rent so you can make money so stfu. Can’t wait to your ceiling goes caving in
One question is...After paying too fix the original installer's screw ups, did they still end up saving money? I had a situation where the job involved replacing a 3 ton heat pump & air handler plus replacing two line sets that ran under a concrete walkway. We had quotes of $29,000, $23,000 and $11,500. The low bidder was a licensed one-man outfit. Part of the problem was that the the two higher bidders were using a software program to price the issue of the concrete walkway and the low bidder was dealing with the actual effort involved. Also union labor vs one man shop. We had almost come to the conclusion that we could fix any possible screw-ups for less than the extra $11,500, but then discovered that the shop had liability insurance but no workers comp. That was a deal breaker for this organization. So, we negotiated the $23,000 price down to $18,000 and just paid the price.
You know what’s s**tty?? I am a honest hard working man with great craftsmanship and have never steered homeowners in the wrong direction but yet I struggle with sales. Con men at my job will lie and exaggerate issues to homeowners and sell 100,000-200,000 grand in a month. It blows my mind that ppl think they are so smart and can spot a con man when the con man just sold them a 10k system from clogged drain.
Wow what is going on with the duct work. First thing I would’ve did was come down and talk to the customer before I even went further. I want to see the Guys ticket.
I did my own AC unit, and I did a better job than the contractor suggested everything i put in was better than what they would have, and my unit has run flawlessly for 25 years so just because a contractor is licensed does not make them good
@@justaguy1576 If the electric utility rates are low, that's a good way to go! I'm on Reliant energy; 1,500 sq. ft. home and my rates are about $ 370.-- per month. A real ripoff.!
You should bolt that box to the 4 x 4 next to the furnace to have it on a stable place so it’s easy to work with that away nobody gets electrocuted reaching up there and get their hands into it by accident that’s what I would do automatically if it was me but that’s me I do things different other people I don’t need to be paid for everything I do I help people at six that’s the thing to do on small projects like that
Wow just wow!!! I sense that bad installations of HVAC Systems are going to become more and more common. Few people have any code of ethics these days. Most are going through life hustling all that they can get out of the poor person that is writing the check.
Does the licensing board not have these people arrested for no license or being incompetent. How does the customer know they can trust the installer?? I need a new system and am a single disabled senior lady. Can anyone suggest what I need to do??
Get 4 or 5 quotes, as many testimonials and referrals as u can, and choose the one in the middle, never choose the lowest bidder, corners are cut to come in as the lowest.
It's hard to find somebody you can trust! Same as a car mechanic...they fix one thing and something else breaks down the next week! Once they start working on your car it seems you never get it fixed. I go online and check feedback these days...people don't always report a good job...but screw them over and oh yes...they report that!
How do you like that meter? I'm in the market for a new one. Have had a klein cl700 for about 3 years but is giving me some issues. Any recommendations?
I just witnessed my neighbors uncle install a new system. On this 3.5 ton AC split system he used 14 inch supply duct reconnected the 5/8 suction line with a 5/16 liquid line. What do you think will happen?
Not sure if that liquid line will work. I've seen a 410a system where our installers reused the 1/4" liquid line and it didn't work. One of our techs diagnosed a bad txv there. I went to do the txv and ended up replacing both
@@scott_meyer Only time that system is going to create condensate is in the summer. If their running their system in the winter then they have other issues. Lol. I'd be worried if they had a 90% furnace. I think high efficiency furnaces are rare in the south. But its still wrong. Need the trap closer to the coil.
@@deanmartin1966 I know its a bit more north but here in NC I find that I'm installing way more 90% furnaces than you would think. A lot of folks are going for our York side discharge HMH systems as well. I just don't think a P trap should ever be outside lmao
Question: I have a 2003 Carrier 3 ton AC system using R22. The compressor is bad. The indoor unit is working as it should. Would you suggest a new compressor or change out?
I defiantly wouldn't put the money into a new compressor, yes it will be cheaper than a new system, but at the end of the day the rest of your equipment is still 20 years old and will start nickel and diming you.
A license serves 2 purposes. One is to supply money to governments. The second is to cut down on the competition to established businesses. They don't like people to get a lower priced product.
Only way I would go behind some hack install is if I was going to remove it all and start over. I ain't fixing their work I'd rather sit at home and not make any money that day
My mom paid out the ass for some unlicensed guy to change out her furnace, outdoor ac and ductwork. Goodman value series stuff for $14k he doesnt like to answer the phone, like the guy that installed the one in this video.
yeah man ...it wasn't until I started watching this page that I seen so many p-traps outside....never in 21 years of service and installs have I seen this. It's a first for me as well.
@@bonhamsghost6798 Some people will never get it. All you have to do is spend 5 minutes and read the installation guide and a lot of these mistakes could be corrected.
The actual problem was outside....when ohm something out u need to isolate circuit ....I'm curious if he actually fixed the problem they called you for.... it is your job to mention issues. I agree. However would like him to finish what was really.... I call that smoke screening.. you make more by selling another airhandler and replacing whole system.... I saw Goodman inside and Rheem condenser
A Hack job is a hack job, no matter who did the work. I know a great many "unlicensed" people that do great work, with pride. I also know many "licensed" people that I would run from. The point is if they take pride in their work.
Unlicensed are breaking the law already; how can you make a claim if you hired the unlicensed person? I get your point by the way and pretty much agree with you!
Unlicensed as in working under a master gaining hours to get a journeymens, but installing systems as an apprentice....
In Illinois, there is no license for hvac. EPA card is all you need to open an account and buy refrigerants. Can pull permit in all towns with insurance and bond.
Not sure what is meant by unlicensed or licensed anyways. No such thing here in Illinois unless you mean boneded and insured which doesnt mean anything all you have to do is pay the fees for that and still be a hack of all hacks. Yes you do however need an epa certification but again anyone can get that in an hour and pay a fee and its good for life. I have been in the field for 20 years commercial and residential repairing systems like VRF. There is nothing wrong with a guy doing side work if he has the experience. Being licensed or unlicensed makes no difference. To be compeletly honest you will have better luck with someone who is a true professional doing side work than a fresh tech from that big residential outfit that is also charging 2x the price. Just get everything in writing and ask for a warranty in writing. Usually the warranty is the manufacture warranty anyways that will cover everything but labor for a minimum of 5 years usually longer.
ABSOLUTELY!
I've paid top dollar and got a HACK JOB that only lasted 4 years, the next guy was half the price of all the others and he did and amazing job.
Licensed or not licensed, a bad job is a bad job
I wish people would stop installing these things in the attic. We should be picking an easy location for someone to work on it. This job is hard enough. Thanks again. BTW the ringing phone non-stop is a good thing.
My days of fixing stuff like that are over. I got fed up with customers getting the hacks for cheap then thinking I should get it working for cheap. I price myself put of this kind of work
Very accurate! When they get it cheap, they think the repairs or total re-do is supposed to be cheap also, and get upset, but remember they found the hack for a reason. “Most” landlords are terrible and don’t even want to pay a hack his price. I mean, I don’t see a rental price section in Lowes where you get lumber cheaper because it’s a rental. Unfortunately it’s not going away.
I was always taught that if something is too good to be true, then more then likely it is.
This is true, it's best to avoid these clients like the plague.
Skilled labor is not CHEAP!!
Cheap labor is not SKILLED!!
Take pride in your craft!
Wow Curtis, I really love that disconnect at the air handler, before I did any work on this system, I’m pretty sure I would have to call code compliance. What a hack job!
Just had a customer so the same thing. He paid $5000.00 for a new “system “and got a damaged condenser and a paint job on the air handler. Everything leaked, dangerous electrical and condensate line that won’t drain. Of course the “installer” can’t be found
Paint job!?!?! 😳😂🤣😂🤣
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I totally disagree. I've seen unlicensed work thats amazing and shitty licensed work. It just depends on how much pride a person has in their work.
Right someone that takes pride of its work licensed or not it's going to do a right job, also some cheap customer they hire a handy man or they do the job themselves... I had experience where they asked me how and where the things its going to be the 2 weeks later the general contractor was asking me for its share for a job I didn't do xDD
The point is if the person who did this was licensed, the customers would have avenues of legal action and a warranty, they got nothing now.
@@4thlinegooner582 don't think the customer want to spend 10-20k on lawyer fees for a 5-10k install
That doesn't make it LEGAL.!
@@johnmflores85 They get a "pro bono" lawyer from the State pool of rejects!
I was in new construction and retro for 18 years. Switched careers when the housing market crashed. Miss those days but now I get to relive it through your videos. Thanks for sharing.
I especially loved the attic disconnect plan. Also, a wonderful idea in leaving the old equipment in the attic. Noticed 100% flex ducting vs. rigid ducting with flex. I wonder if they installed a filter location. So the condenser compressor was burned out? Looked fairly new so it likely wasn't charged correctly etc.
I came across where a license contractor ripped off some older lady which her husband passed away . I was able to get her money back I told her to tell the company that ripped her off that she was going to call the hvac inspector to come and check the job they done. The following morning the contractor showed up with her money and I end up changing her equipment.
I get frustrated and call lots of equipment garbage, and the truth is some of it is garbage, bad manufacturing ideas, but the 90% of the time when it's garbage, it's because it was all hack and wacked in like this. You feel bad for a customer but they also should have had the right guy out there in the first place.
I hear that all the time. Customer knows a guy that can do it cheaper. Cousins fathers brother did hvac for 800 yrs. Said we are way to expensive. Almost a guarantee to either return for a fix or replacement very soon. Just as bad as the customer thinking a manufacturer parts warranty covers labor someone hacked installed
the disconnect literally just sitting on the ground wow
Having a license does not ensure you will not get hacked and ripped off. It's nothing more than a barrier to entry that drives up prices.
true
The license does insure that you have the technical ability, and experience to do the job safely. No amount of testing can detect unethical behavior, sadly.
Customer try to cut corners by being cheap, will receive work that is cheap. Universe will boomerang back to you what you put out. For the most part, I don't feel any sympathy for the homeowner. 👍
I'm glad you said something about the p-trap. I was screaming inside seeing that outside lol
Been in the HVAC trade for 42 year's. Navy trained and Local 487 journeyman certification received in 2000. I've seen some hack jobs in my day, this one is in the top 5 of all time. P-trap outside does as much good as a condensing unit does inside. USELESS! I hope that client got it installed properly and by code. Thanks for the blooper at the end btw.
Made me think of my nephew, Army. He did HVAC. When in Iraq, he was the most popular guy around.
Bro, that's awesome with the little blooper at the end. You should put those in your videos
Here in Pennsylvania I have installed many and replaced many strictly cooling air handler split systems no heat kit no heat pump straight AC
Thankfully you were able to get them going...
Heat is overrated. Lol. The guy probably even thinks of himself as a great Hvac tech. I see the same crap in the midwest. People using solder or plumbing copper for linesets. Then they want it fixed for next to nothing. Never pays to cheap out on an install. Penny wise but pound foolish. That's like me pulling a splinter out of my finger and saying I'm a surgeon. Lol. Good video.
Lol exactly, I'm in chicago and everyone pays cheap and wants to know why they have a garbage install and complains everyone is too expensive. I always say you get what you pay for.
When they want it fixed we tell them rip it all out because nothing can be promised to work from prior damage for first install
Plumbing copper tube is too porous and cheaper than refrigeration copper tube!
@@bobboscarato1313 I’m sure they’ve never heard of the ACR tubing
@@deanmartin1966 I learned that at a tech seminar long, long ago!
I'm sure they realize calling a professional the 1st time could have saved them the headache
Usually they don't. They don't believe a legit co. is the way to go! Suckers are born every day!
Not necessarily. I called the exact same "professionals" who originally installed the system when the house was built. He replaced the system saying it had gone bad.
Ok it was old so $5,000 spent.
Then, I would always call him to service it right? Just a few tears later he said I needed a whole new blower motor.
Now we're looking at $3,000 MORE.
Next time he serviced it I complained it was leaking through the ceiling and he said ok and then said he fixed it.
it still leaked and I had to put a large 30 gallon trash can under the ceiling to collect all the water.
Here I am now with a HUGE hole in my ceiling where the water leaked caused it fall to the floor and water was practically pouring out of my ceiling!!!
The next time I complained to him about the hvac system leaking EVERYWHERE he said I should call a plumber!!
So much for the professional. I am here now on utube to FIX this myself FOR FREE!
( well. Plus the cost of the tools and the parts.)
@@ranakeen9884 Why didn't you purchase an extended Parts/Labor warranty. They come with 5, 10 and even 12 years. Small investment saves lots of money. Don't get builder contractors. Most are bad.!
@@bobboscarato1313 I didn't have to. It already came with a 5 year warranty.
@@bobboscarato1313 you know where you stick your warranty? HVAC is a scam. The price of heat pump is $2000 they wanna charge me almost 15000. I just read instructions and install it by myself when something goes wrong I can replace indoor or outdoor unit and it will be cheaper than paying Pros for their labor
We should be putting secondary safety switches on primary drain pan. I've seen people almost never have problems with water when given the appropriate safety switches on primary and secondary pans. They cost like 10-15 bucks so it's not worth it to not install them.
I’ve ran into this with home warranty company crap.
Installed a new goodman AHU with 410A txv on r-22 Lennox outdoor. Reason was the evap coil was leaking. I replaced the txv and got it going.
so what was the final outcome? did you fix it? ive installed air handlers without heat strips because they were using it for the soul Purpose of cooling because they had a heating system boiler heat or once a restaurant that needed cooling in the back area. i couldn’t tell if that was their only source for cooling/ heating. that unit needed to be hung or at least bricks underneath it if they were going to be lazy and not raise it with all thread and uni strut. Also that pee trap needed done that electrical box need to be mounted. overall the install really needed to be redone and start over. people just don’t care anymore licensed or not quality work just isn’t there anymore. I look at very few jobs and I can say to a homeowner who ever installed this did a great job.
It's experience that homeowners should be looking for, not the cheaper job. They reap what they sow. Did they save money like they were trying to do? Nope. The principle here is hire people that are experienced with good reviews, period. I don't feel sorry for these customers....they got what they paid for...or they put it in themselves.
I agree you should always go with someone who someone else has had a good experience with. Sometimes the cheapest price is actually the way to go. Just depends on who is doing the work. I can tell you this a lot of the time I am the best deal depends on if I'm just trying to keep myself and my guy busy how easy the job is. How bad I really want to do it. I know for a fact it's gonna get done right and their won't ever be a call back. Every job is different just like every customer is different.
@@bentrujillo6406 I'm a one man shop and I charge the same as the bigger companies because we only have a certain amount of time and energy in a day as one guy. Get as much as you can and let the quality be the best around then listen to the phone ring non-stop.
@@dylandrymond3839 I'm the same way I don't have call backs and the people spread my name... I wish sometimes I had employees because of the work I let go because I don't have the time but employees bring headaches I had 3 pre covid. Not everyone has my standards.
Chuck in the truck sticks it to yet another one
Love the p trap out side
Pee trap coming out of the wall outside 😂
Had a heat call at 3AM told customer service call would be $175 for 1st hour we don't take checks and no credit cards the response was that's alot of money I said well we provide alot of heat Is your house cold yes was the response mine isn't good night click I hung up my wife said who was that El Cheapo morale of the story I don't work for free I've been doing this work for 30 years a license don't mean nothing cause when I get to a job and there multiple problems as far as a hack job I walk cause they want you to give them a break cause the other guy screwed them I don't deal with cheap customers who have a BMW or Caddillac in their driveway but I will always help someone on a fixed income elderly or a veteran
By the time i remove them cover screws I’m sweating bullets.
I have had crap like this, the customer will say can't you fix it cheerios I just paid $xxxx.00 have it installed. Want me to fix the crap some jack-leg f///Ed up.
I can fix it cheap or I can fix it right. I cannot fix it right and cheap.
Yikes, Id have started running towards the truck as soon as I saw that disconnect just laying there.
I'm a landlord that does my own installs.....had to because these clowns wanted 8k for a 2 ton split. I was doing them for $1850.00 So far I'm on number 10 over 4 years and have yet to have a problem due to an installation hack. It's been really nice not having to get overcharged for service calls for 6 dollar caps.
At least it'll be your own ceiling water comes through or worse lol
We got a word in the business for cheap ass landlords
@@fuzzyvision1219 the only reason you would have water come through your ceiling is because you undersized your pan, didn't install a drain line on said pan, didn't install a secondary drain on top of the primary that might get plugged.. I don't have issues like that because the stuff is so easy to install that a monkey could do it.
good on you
I hate people like you. Lol you act like just because the equipment cost 2k they are suppose to do the work for 2k like they got insurance to pay for warranty on system, employees to pay for, the, tools, gas, oil all that. But yet you charging your tenants 4xs the rent so you can make money so stfu. Can’t wait to your ceiling goes caving in
One question is...After paying too fix the original installer's screw ups, did they still end up saving money? I had a situation where the job involved replacing a 3 ton heat pump & air handler plus replacing two line sets that ran under a concrete walkway. We had quotes of $29,000, $23,000 and $11,500. The low bidder was a licensed one-man outfit. Part of the problem was that the the two higher bidders were using a software program to price the issue of the concrete walkway and the low bidder was dealing with the actual effort involved. Also union labor vs one man shop. We had almost come to the conclusion that we could fix any possible screw-ups for less than the extra $11,500, but then discovered that the shop had liability insurance but no workers comp. That was a deal breaker for this organization. So, we negotiated the $23,000 price down to $18,000 and just paid the price.
Shotty work on that hack job, some people like that just want to get paid and run to the bank with a check, Good job Curtis.
You know what’s s**tty?? I am a honest hard working man with great craftsmanship and have never steered homeowners in the wrong direction but yet I struggle with sales. Con men at my job will lie and exaggerate issues to homeowners and sell 100,000-200,000 grand in a month. It blows my mind that ppl think they are so smart and can spot a con man when the con man just sold them a 10k system from clogged drain.
Thanks for the video, I. Would like to know what was causing the short on the condenser unit?,thank you in advance.
Wow what is going on with the duct work. First thing I would’ve did was come down and talk to the customer before I even went further. I want to see the Guys ticket.
Having a license don't mean you know what you're doing.
I did my own AC unit, and I did a better job than the contractor suggested everything i put in was better than what they would have, and my unit has run flawlessly for 25 years so just because a contractor is licensed does not make them good
I see that a lot where a Airhandler is installed with just an ac. Heat strips are not designed to be the main source of heat it needs a heatpump.
In many places they have hydronic or steam heat and air handler is just for A/C!
Me too...A lot of houses in this area have baseboard electric heat. where each room is individually controlled.
@@justaguy1576 If the electric utility rates are low, that's a good way to go! I'm on Reliant energy; 1,500 sq. ft. home and my rates are about $ 370.-- per month. A real ripoff.!
Not to mention a goodman air handler with rheem a/c. Nice mix and match.
That is what I have had for 20 years. No problems.
Junk with junk.
@@colbraddock9913 BS. I have a 25-year old working Goodman furnace and A/C, and I'm looking to replace it only "just in case".
@@eaf2k I believe you I bet the utility company loves you meter spinner
@@eaf2k what pressures are you running and what's your wet bulb and your dry bulb? Hermetic or scroll
You should bolt that box to the 4 x 4 next to the furnace to have it on a stable place so it’s easy to work with that away nobody gets electrocuted reaching up there and get their hands into it by accident that’s what I would do automatically if it was me but that’s me I do things different other people I don’t need to be paid for everything I do I help people at six that’s the thing to do on small projects like that
Wow just wow!!! I sense that bad installations of HVAC Systems are going to become more and more common. Few people have any code of ethics these days. Most are going through life hustling all that they can get out of the poor person that is writing the check.
Awesome video
It would be a good video to show how to bring that system up to code and install those heat strips. Maybe cut her a good deal or something.
I was trained on preventative maintenance service calls to always find a problem. and charge extra
And people commenting license doesn’t mean anything clearly don’t have Nate or epa or state ! Professionals get licensed and do things right
Trying to save a dollar may put you in a worse predicament
Does the licensing board not have these people arrested for no license or being incompetent. How does the customer know they can trust the installer?? I need a new system and am a single disabled senior lady. Can anyone suggest what I need to do??
Or the drain line isn’t armoflexed ! In summer it will condensate and ruin ceilings . Who puts a Goodman and a rheem together ?
If the licensed HVAC technician wouldn’t over charge people , people would not be pushed into hiring these kind of unlicensed technician
Poor people. Ive seen that many times; some people think they can save money in stuff that they dont even understand how it supposed to work.
Damned rookies. I think some people with a license, think it's a license to steal.
All I know is that an 2 HVAC companies tried to rip me off (2 times in different years) I use You Tube and do my own repairs now.
I'm sure so of the guy that are posting. Don't even owe a hvac business. But work for a ac company and there license through the company.
Is rheem the only thing you can buy in that town, that’s all I see around there
That is so bad on so many levels. I'm curious what the 200 ohms resistance to ground at the outdoor unit turned out to be...grounded compressor?
Correct.
Get 4 or 5 quotes, as many testimonials and referrals as u can, and choose the one in the middle, never choose the lowest bidder, corners are cut to come in as the lowest.
dont take the window unit out. those things can last 20 years.
It's hard to find somebody you can trust! Same as a car mechanic...they fix one thing and something else breaks down the next week! Once they start working on your car it seems you never get it fixed. I go online and check feedback these days...people don't always report a good job...but screw them over and oh yes...they report that!
Should have jumped are in green at the air handler and that would tell you if the power is on or off downstairs
I have ac only system. Forced air heat sucks
This is a set-up......if a tech left a job like that, he'd be done in a couple of hours from his boss, or a few days from the rumor mill
Why don't you at least mount the shut off switch to make it safer ?
How do you like that meter? I'm in the market for a new one. Have had a klein cl700 for about 3 years but is giving me some issues. Any recommendations?
For top dollar jobs like that, we call it junque. 😉
I just witnessed my neighbors uncle install a new system. On this 3.5 ton AC split system he used 14 inch supply duct reconnected the 5/8 suction line with a 5/16 liquid line.
What do you think will happen?
Refrigerant lines seem to be undersized. With R410A you have higher pressures and it may work!
Not sure if that liquid line will work. I've seen a 410a system where our installers reused the 1/4" liquid line and it didn't work. One of our techs diagnosed a bad txv there. I went to do the txv and ended up replacing both
Check your fuse in the disconnect
So the P-trap is outside where it could freeze?
Curtis is in Georgia. Not much chance of it freezing. But its still wrong.
@@deanmartin1966
Not usual to see freezing that far south, but it does happen occasionally.
@@scott_meyer Only time that system is going to create condensate is in the summer. If their running their system in the winter then they have other issues. Lol. I'd be worried if they had a 90% furnace. I think high efficiency furnaces are rare in the south. But its still wrong. Need the trap closer to the coil.
@@deanmartin1966 I know its a bit more north but here in NC I find that I'm installing way more 90% furnaces than you would think. A lot of folks are going for our York side discharge HMH systems as well. I just don't think a P trap should ever be outside lmao
@@dscimmy3914 Yeah they should never be outside. It was probably their uncles cousins nephews brother that installed the system. Lol
Did you fix the system, or did the customer tell you to leave it as is? I want to know if it will be part 2 of this video.
I gave a quote to replace condenser and bring it up to code, but didn’t get the job.
HVAC GUY She probably went the cheap, hack route again huh?
@@HVACGUY: You probably saved yourself a big headache; those kind of customers are nothing but trouble and it costs you money!
@@HVACGUY Lucky you.....
A licensed contractor does not mean ethical contractor,
I have a question, can somebody tell me why the capacitor is covered like in a cardboard box?
Friends don't let friends install AC units
What meter was you reviewing?
Dude, why do you use those shitty little magnet lights. Get a rechargeable headlamp. It’s a game changer
mount the box before you go downstairs
Sure; thanks for the tip!
Whats the brand of the meter u were asked to check out? Also being 2 months later..same thoughts about it?
what brand is new meter, did u post a review yet
Not yet
Kaiweets HT206D
@@HVACGUY can you post a review or at least a link? Thanks in advance.
I was cringing when i saw that mess.
Phone won't stop ringing, that's a good sign . 👌
Unless you get only re--calls!
No offense Bro. But- You should have lists all the code violations n no kw/ strips. tell h/o what its going to cost to fix it properly.
His uncle prob installed it 😂
Question: I have a 2003 Carrier 3 ton AC system using R22. The compressor is bad. The indoor unit is working as it should. Would you suggest a new compressor or change out?
I defiantly wouldn't put the money into a new compressor, yes it will be cheaper than a new system, but at the end of the day the rest of your equipment is still 20 years old and will start nickel and diming you.
@@sayitaintso1690 thanks for the reply
A license serves 2 purposes. One is to supply money to governments. The second is to cut down on the competition to established businesses. They don't like people to get a lower priced product.
Only way I would go behind some hack install is if I was going to remove it all and start over. I ain't fixing their work I'd rather sit at home and not make any money that day
Run ,not walk away.
What AC brand has the Best Warranty??
Thanks
Why didn’t she call the installer
She tried. He won’t answer her calls
You didnt finish the video saying what was wrong with the unit
What is a heat strip????
My mom paid out the ass for some unlicensed guy to change out her furnace, outdoor ac and ductwork. Goodman value series stuff for $14k he doesnt like to answer the phone, like the guy that installed the one in this video.
maybe cus he’s trynna get shit done
I've been a hvacr and Refrigeration tech for 3 years and the p-trap outside is a first for me 😂
yeah man ...it wasn't until I started watching this page that I seen so many p-traps outside....never in 21 years of service and installs have I seen this. It's a first for me as well.
@@dylandrymond3839 I don’t get it. Gas pacs have outside p traps. Running trap still works away from unit, doesn’t it?
@@bonhamsghost6798 Some people will never get it. All you have to do is spend 5 minutes and read the installation guide and a lot of these mistakes could be corrected.
First off, no P trap.
Cheap, fast, or good. Pick two... 🤔🤑
Looks like they got what they probably paid for.
Illegal aliens install
The actual problem was outside....when ohm something out u need to isolate circuit ....I'm curious if he actually fixed the problem they called you for.... it is your job to mention issues. I agree. However would like him to finish what was really.... I call that smoke screening.. you make more by selling another airhandler and replacing whole system.... I saw Goodman inside and Rheem condenser
Not enough ohms to ground.