Fitting the EXT ERA forks to my HARDCORE HARDTAIL and Test Shredding! ⚔
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2021
- The only thing that let this bike down in the original build was the forks - let's fix that by fitting the new ERA from cross-discipline Italian suspension experts EXT! This is the finishing touch to the Hardcore Hardtail to give it the Mullet setup 🤘
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i lovethis hardtail...still saving for it. next year will have it also with ext era
Would love to see the long term review for this!
Long term review in brief is; zero problems, perfect function maintained. It doesn't get the beating that the bike big bike does, and there are some great upgrades on the fork since then, but I've had zero issues with this one! (and my 170mm ERA, which has had the upgrades)
Stumbled onto your hardcore hardtail build - sick bike man. Awesome to see technology/brands that we don't typically encounter in the US. Now I'll have to add a gearbox hardtail to my list of "bikes to own one day" :)
Great to hear it man, thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated. The gearbox is an absolute winner!
Such a proper rig!
Absolutely amazing bike !
Thanks! Loving it 🤩
Really enjoyin yir videos Ramsey
Cheers Piero 👊 looking forward to loads more over winter 👌
They definitely rip! 🤘🔥
Sure do, loved that we test shred!! 🤙
Pro tip, cut before greasing. The grease will catch the metal. Nice forks dude
I will definitely get a EXT ERA, but I am waiting for the coil version. my fox 36 does not creak as bad yet, but I've definitely heard it when doing drops or doing the endos. cus of pressure changes can be quite big where I live. I live in east Norway, when I ran air before I could get decrease or increase in up to 10psi.
Wow, that's a huge difference in pressure! I notice a lot of damping fluctuation with temperate but never pressure...
I love my $400 KKE double crown forks! Best forks I have ever owned, and I've spent some money on bike parts.
No reason why there can't be a cheap fully functional fork out there! Simple design, reliable, robust, effective 👌 never heard of the KKE but will have a Google! 👍
Absolutely my bike
The fork has performed well. still no creaks,I did not ride as much as I wanted, but still the Fox would have creaked already.
I don't mind it being an air fork, it's smooth, sensitive and supportive if setup right.
Of ocurse I have to keep an eye on thhe pressures, but havign a coil shock it's less work.
I think the spring on the fox 36 Smash pot conversion I hhad was too firm, but I did not bother testing that furhter, as the 36 was as noisy as yours.
but the Era has been quiet.
I'm glad to hear the ERA has been an improvement!
Nice!!! What trail was that. Think I live nearby..... Also, I was riding recently and saw you building that log skinny! Just came across your channel and put 2 and 2 together.
A LIttle bit of 'Rockit Fuel' but mostly the classic 'Nipple Tweaker' at Campsie Glen. Sweet dude, maybe see you up there sometime 👍
Ooh this really makes it the ultimate hardtail. Really nice forks!
Tested a Nicolai with Pinion today and its awesome. Shame the G1 isn't available with it.. (although I understand the reasons given by CP why they won't offer it)
The Pinion gearbox is always nicer than people think!
@@RamsayMacFarlane yeah! Rode that G16 Pinion for a day and it's an awesome bike. Don't know why some of the testers in the magazine complain about certain things like not shifting under load.. Like a chain likes that.
Still going for the G1 now.. Surely will miss the gearbox.
I’m to distracted by that clean xj jeep in the back ground! U should build it do videos on it
It's a beauty lurking quietly in the background! I'd love to feature it and the others but it's not mine... one day maybe!
just a wee correction. torque caps have been used for at least a decade on Rockshox forks.
Yes, true! Thanks for pointing it out here - I knew it was a RS thing but have no idea why not widely adopted sooner? Very glad to have EXT utilise it - next best thing to a 20mm axle...
Gnarly! 😀
I love the GLF too! After or as alternative to my G1 it would be my absolute favorite! ... united against the mainstream!!!
It's so good! Makes a brilliant team with my geometron 👌🔥🙌
@@RamsayMacFarlane oh yes! ...i had the honor to test it 4 days! directly from nicolai! tjis couple i think it is like a wife that you love and a junger lady... i don't want to continue ;)
@@mswob1845 hahaha 😂
@@RamsayMacFarlane my g1 is absolutly unique: intend edge force, stem, ..., hope wheels, crank and handles, beast components handlebar, magura mt5, trp dh 7speed, reverse casett, michelin tyre... now, but i want to change to kaiser apex...
and i like you channel very much! greeting from germany
@@mswob1845 sounds awesome, send me a pic on insta! Thanks for watching dude, glad you enjoy the videos 👊
That was a wee bit enjoyable. Great bike
Cheers bud!
I will be trying this fork, and later will get converted to coil, when that comes, my fox 36 is creaking as bad now too. 😜
You might be pleasantly surprised by how well this fork performs and not require the coil!
@@RamsayMacFarlane One of the reasons I want coil is pressure changes, not as much of an issue in the summer, but during winter it makes a huge difference.
@@mtbboy1993 this is true! But it also applies to the damping fluid probably more than the air spring... The oil will become very viscose at low temperatures and slow the damping right down, it's horrible when that happens! 😬 A lightweight oil for such would help a lot, that might solve your problem more than a coil spring would! The lack of progression from a coil is a very noticeable negative for aggressive riding which is why I would stick with air, especially the dual-chamber in the ERA - at least you can have a full adjustment based on the temperature!
@@RamsayMacFarlane I defenitly noticed both oil and air pressure making a huge difference, but the fox 32 I had before I had to go up or down by 10psi usually fork was firm enough but when I took it out and was few mins out it got soft to urideable state. But yes the fork got harsh when temps went down too, I could notice it changing when I heated the fork up with drops i guess, authnumb and spring I usually can make it soft by riding it hard, but in winter it's harsh, but not experience it with fox 36 Smashpot, but might be different oil in there i don't know, but I did not ride in as much cold temps, but so far it performed well apart from it now creaking like yours did.
@@RamsayMacFarlane I've not tested my fork enough yet but got rebound damping close now, 7 clicks on fast rebound. Not tested slow rebound yet. The compression just seem to harshen up the fork too much so run it fully open, both high and low, and Smashpot bottom out control at 0 too. I think I was told the coil version might not come before Xmas. So long wait. But will see how the ext fork performs. Much better crown design for sure.
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Where do you get that lube from, google or the EXT website doesn't bring anything up. The only lube they show it says is for metal on metal and nothing about wiper seals etc... Also how does it compare to coil forks like the Smashpot, is it nearly as good off the top, the same, or better?
I'm sure EXT will supply it if you ask them... I can't compare directly with other forks as I'm not a journalist/tester giving them a bounce for an hour and providing a comprehensive report... BUT, I can say that with the dual air chamber, the 'off the top' feeling is very much like a coil spring and feel super plush. Long term review will show how the performance degrades (if at all) as they are abused in the Scottish weather... 👍
look forward to a detailed review down the track! I've got the storia in my banshee titan and looking for replacement for my creaky fox 36 up front.. the price here is Australia is pretty horrendous on the era tho! cheers
Price is high everywhere! 😅 ...but the investment is true 👌
is this the GLF Argon? thanks!
Yes!
More hardcore bikes, 1 1\8 forks and 26 wheels, for dirt, free ride and dh!!
Bikes are great! Not all bikes need to be fancy and new - 26' still works just fine and is TONS OF FUN!
Where did you land with your air pressures compared to the recommendations? You seem to efficiently user the travel.
At recommended + and ++, my fork feels very harsh and at max has used 65% of travel, even on massive drops where a FOX would bottom.
@@Philoniousmonk I would agree! Took a bit of time to experiment and ended up miles away from the recommended from what I remember... I haven't actually noted those settings because they're a bit different character for the hardtail compared to the primary bike (full suss) which I've now got ERA on too, recently, and setting them up too. Loving it!! For the hardtail I like to use less plush travel so there is less chassis roll and actually ramped it up after this video so it was a good bit more supportive. For the big bike it has to match the rear shock and vice versa, and getting the best travel/support out of both is quite different. Am I waffling? 🤪 In short, I don't actually have a set of pressures and settings for these forks yet, just running them as they go and adjusting. It's also a pain in the ass that the pressure you apply in the process is then not measurable due to the way it equalises - the pressure you put in the process will then read as less when it balances out (in my experience) so I can't just go and check what they were! Also probably advisable then to note down every single input because you can't retrospectively check it accurately 🤦♂️ I'd rather be able to just top it up and adjust it as you go! But that's a quirk of what is so far a fantastic spring setup!
Wow, such a hardtail...🤘👏👏👏 Fork is amazing, price is amazing 😂 Looks that fork is bottoming out a bit...maybe few tokens...
It sure is pricey! So is the whole bike... BUT it's an investment, not only in a fun machine that will last a long time, but also supports quality craftsmanship and local jobs 👌
There is NO shitty Tokensystem. It uses a high pressure second positive air chamber instead as the Öhlins and Manitou forks.
He obviously set the fork up with far too low pressure.
I have a Manitou and rode this weekend with a buddy riding the Era and can tell you, these forks stand tall very easily and rode significantly higher even in steep terrain than this one above.
So most probably a too soft setup or other issue
@@paul.p.smellthetruth2667 it sure does! And yes it was too soft - for the purpose of the video I rode the baseline settings for my weight. I have already adjusted accordingly 👌
@@RamsayMacFarlane the Era has no TOKENS. It has a secondary air chamber. Just a fact
@@paul.p.smellthetruth2667 I was agreeing with your statement about dual air 🤦♂️ Way to hit the negative interpretation! 😂🥁
How much travel to the new forks have ?
140mm bro
Please some words on the ERA mate. How do you like it, what does it do better worse than other forks besides stiffness and no creaking.
Yes, absolutely - will do! This was merely a quick test ride after fitting. Will follow up with a longer-term review/feedback.
that fork actually looks p sick!
So sick! Quite stealthy and quietly confident 😏
@@RamsayMacFarlane have you tried a DVO onyx? I'm curious how the two compare since they both use a combination of air and coil spring.
Hey mate, these EXT are 29 and the Nicolai is 27.5, how did you get on?
Yes, it was intended to make it a mullet setup - although the frame can take 29' in the rear too, I wanted it to be the same as my Geometron. I love the feeling of this setup! o√O
Oh got it. Makes sense mate!
I'm not looking forward to my FOX 36 Factory creaking....! They've only got about 80 hours under the belt so not for a while hopefully... Scott says most forks end up creaking eventually!
that fork look like its working great.
It works really really great!
what wheel size is this bike?
Mullet configuration, business in the front party in the rear 😎🤙 29 front 27.5 rear 👌
Yeh but what was the fork action like?
Rather noice 👌 ...this was literally a fit and test, it would be wrong to comment on the true performance of the fork at that stage.
Even my fox 34 does that
wow wow wow FOX36 that cost a fortune have a problem! hahah i read about it but 1st time seeing in video! if i were you i will write to fox and send them back this fork ...they can do what they want with it...what a lemon product ...many people have it ...such a pitty for a top brand like fox...
I agree it's terrible that such a premium product can have such a common failure without a recall or acknowledgement - I've had the CSU replaced under warranty but it happened again immediately because the design is flawed and not up to the task!
Is it wrong that I am paying more attention to his smooth accent than the content?
Came for the content, stayed for accent? ...fine with me :)
nicolia ebike video coming soon 🤔🤔
I wish! 😍👌
By all accounts the Suntor durlox is a creak free fork and alot less expensive .
Sounds good, haven't had the chance to try one!
is it 27,5 or 29 ?
It's both! 29 front and 27.5 rear
@@RamsayMacFarlane ok thanks looks realy agile
He didn’t push down on the new fork they way he did on the fox lol of course theres no creak!
FYI there's still no creak...
@@RamsayMacFarlane because you didn’t match the force the way you did with the fox fork lol
@@Brotha_J619 I have done many times since... It doesn't creak because of the force as such, it creaks because there's a build up of corrosion within the CSU/stanchion/steerer joints...
@@RamsayMacFarlane re watch your video
My forks do the same but worse 😂
I feel you bro, it does get soooo much worse! 😬😲 Hound them for warranty on an inadequate product! 😤
@@RamsayMacFarlane good idea cheers buddy
I'd so buy this fork, if it was available in 27.5!!!
I understand that a lot of people like 29. I don't. And i don't understand why Ext doesn't give us the option. There're still people riding even 26 and lovin it. Why try n force people into a trend?
Ain't no trend I'm afraid, just optimisation... Stick a 29 upfront and get some Mullet action like both my bikes - it's the way forward! MX bikes been mullet for centuries 😋
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I did try it several time and never liked it. I'd rather ride 26 than 29.
I'm all for progress and optimisation as long as it doesn't take away choices.
@@xR1no for sure! Those options will always exist as long as people use them! 26' is great, I run that on my trials/pumptrack bike - more manoeuvrable, but you can't beat the rollover capabilities and stability of 29 upfront 🙌
@@RamsayMacFarlane That's why i like 27.5! Best from both worlds.
@@RamsayMacFarlane Agreed mullet is the way. EXT makes some badass shocks...have a Storia on my Foes Mixer (mullet) and just ordered an E-bike specific Storia for my mullet 2022 Turbo Levo...your Nicolai is seriously badass, I have a Mullet Cycles Honeymaker hardtail and it's a blast to ride...only mullets in my garage!!!
Wtf you speak some strange accent.
🤣 Scottish!
yeeeh another company bought from an american company....