John Salley on Michael Jordan’s Lingering Hatred of the Bad Boy Pistons | The Rich Eisen Show
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Sally is such a happy dude. Great smile, great attitude.
Can anyone name someone happier about this documentary than John Salley? This brother is saying yes to all media.
John Sally tells some of the best stories
I wish the NBA played like the 80's ! I'd watch the entire season .
pathnativejam No doubt about. They soft as Doctors cotton in this era. The league has changed so much in the last 30 yrs, all these damn kids. Not good for the game. I don't watch as much anymore.
Young kids don’t understand how exciting it was.
The 80s were hands down the peak of the NBA.
@@sean70729 nostalgia is a helluva drug
That's when I quit, the 90's. Cant even tell you one story. Not even the sensationalized.
Rodman’s quote about the business is perfect.
I loved Salley's impersonation of Jordan's voice. I think he did great and I want to hear more.
Jordan being mad only means 1 thing....it worked
“Like straight up bitches.” - Horace Grant.
@Jeff Pryce worked 3 times twice. 😂😂😂
@Zeb Nicklin true...but it took him more than 7 years to get past the Celts and Pistons. He deserves to rest well...
@Zeb Nicklin Have you heard Jordan talk? He doesn’t get over ANYTHING. He’s still mad he got cut in high school. 😆 And you can bet your life he’s still mad that The Bad Boys stopped him from potentially winning two extra rings. (Maybe 1, because he wasn’t going to beat the Lakers in 1989).
@Zeb Nicklin he made a documentary stating he wasn't over it.
What Jerry Krause did to Pippen? He was told it was a bad contract and he still signed it because he wanted 7 years of security. Pippen was his own worst enemy and is not really loved in the city of Chicago, "no tippin Scottie Pippen" is what they call him.
I don’t think Jordan goes to sleep thinking about the Pistons. I think when they are brought up in conversation, Jordan remembers how they tried to hurt him to win.
Exactly. I love how John Salley seems to be surprised that Jordan hated the way the Pistons played. They were the dirtiest team in NBA history. They tried to hurt other players; to possibly end their careers. Of course Michael hated them.
@@jaywoolston2851 but Rodman and Salley got were pulled to the bulls, those same dirty players
@@jaywoolston2851 *laughs at the 80s Celtics literally playing the same way*
For 2 or 4 years, the Pistons were the main obstacle to winning the championship. (They were great btw.) I bet he stopped hating them after he beat them.
Maurice Lucas.
Legendary tough guy
Maybe the toughest.
Fam.. The Pistons were literally using rugby play for Jordan, and got away with it, why wouldn't he be mad?
I don't understand why the Pistons walking off the court was different than Boston doing it.
Jordan never lets a grudge go.
@@cheeseburger12 don't make it out to look admirable. That whining is pure bitchmade stuff.
@@cheeseburger12 That's because he's a crybaby a-hole!
There isn't a difference. Anyone who tells you it is mean's they know nothing.
Jordan took it as the ultimate sign of disrespect because he'd always shaken the Pistons' hands after they'd beaten the Bulls in the playoffs before.
What i get from this is, what ever it is that you love doing, you'll do it when ever, where ever, with who ever. Special!
Hi john hope all is well I met you at my business in the Caribbean Great personality
Hope all is well with you as well 👏🏼 looking at the last dance at home yea it’s grate 🍷trying to obey the stay at home order lol 😂
I don't know why this is such a big deal. I still hate certain high school teams i played against in high school sports. That's magnified a ton of times for pro athletes
Glad Salley said it, if management rode it til the wheels fell off they win 9 of 10. I have said it to people and they looked at me like I was crazy.
"Block this-" we interrupt this program to bring you a commercial!!! Mwahahahahah!
now all the players are friends and just want to play with each other.
Interesting that by 96 MJ was still averaging 30 a game, with a deeper roster. His FG% dropped a bit to 49% but I believe his 3PT% went up above 40%. What an athlete.
You give respect to receive respect. Jordan and the bulls didn’t really give the pistons the respect they deserved with their comments about them before game 4, why would the pistons give the bulls the respect they deserve by shaking their hands? You don’t respect them so they don’t respect you.
Nuff said
“Sportsmanship.”
Jordan shook their hands after getting beat up.
@@iishyxvietxboyii And pistons were gonna shake their hands after the loss. That was up until the interview before game 4 Jordan and the bulls said that the Pistons weren’t real champions. Imagine you work hard to reach the top and someone dismisses all your efforts like they don’t mean anything and you didn’t deserve the spot you were at. How disrespectful is that?
@@patricksavage242 Read my post again... lol
MJs practice reqregiment sounds very similar to anouther GOAT in his sport named Jerry Rice!
those who played against MJ know he is the 🐐
@George Ybarra the way he stated that he hated them at that time, not now, is he still displeased by what the Pistons did, by trying to send him to the hospital, sure, those things no one would ever forget, I have a cousin that stated something about another intimidate family member to me 12 years ago, I will never forgive him for what he stated, period. Certain lines when crossed there is no way to come back from.
Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest nba player of allrime.
That’s called nostalgia
@@angelvalle9963 yes
Did u play against him? How u know? Lol
Mike didn't let hate blind him and the Bulls hired three players from the Bad Boys in '96, including Salley.
Bob Lanier ,Artis Gilmore that was pain ,NBA went soft after Pistons and Knicks.
Truth!!!! they play flag basketball now
I have the book the Jordan rules from 1992 I read the whole book and text winter said that if Michael was able to beat the Pistons in that time he would have won the championship since 1987-88 season like John Salley said Michael would have had more, but he retired in 1993
I highly doubt it, he was virtually the whole team during that time, no Phil, no Scottie, no grant, no pippen, no RINGS
I doubt it. The Lakers in 1988 and 89 were still the best team in basketball. The Lakers were undefeated before the 1989 Finals when their backcourt got hurt.
Earliest Jordan could have won was 1990.
Yeah Lakers had a super team Jordan wanted do develop his players he didn't want new additions to his team he wanted to win with Horace and Scottie ,with the breakfast club ,Pippen got bigger and stronger along with Horace and bj ,they were coming trust me, in 1992 when the dream team played those famous scrimmages,magic challenged MJ just to be embarrassed, is like they knew Michael was special and he will be the greatest player ever
@@poligonzo5300 and you do know magic was way past his prime then 😆😆😆😆
@@poligonzo5300 you have to also remember that with Jordan’s scoring and alpha attitude, stars in their prime didn’t want to play with him.
Harper came over when already washed up and was among the lowest scorers for a starting guard.
Jordan often complained that Magic had Worthy and Kareem when the reality is those 2 wouldn’t want to play with him for multiple seasons
Thomas: We are bad boys
Jordan: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@Jeff Pryce So true man. I firmly believe that if Jordan never had to deal with the bad boys, he never would have won 6 rings.
They toughened him up. He owes them more than his ego will allow him to accept.
Thomas: We are bad boys 🏆🏆
Pistons taught the bulls physical toughness and teamwork. They also built Rodman, Salley, and Edwards- who the bulls needed to be successful. Bulls would’ve never won 6 titles without Detroit. Jordan should say thank you, send the pistons a bottle of champagne, and stop acting like a sensitive little b!tch
It's actually 💍💍💍💍💍💍
😂😂😂
Jeff Pryce They’re 1-3 against the bad boys, but treat the one victory as if it were almost a championship. Just goes to show that the Bulls were completely dominated by Detroit - physically, mentally, and emotionally”
New York Knicks in 1990's under Pat Riley played Detroit Pistons style basketball, except without the talent.
How ignorant to call him greedy. It’s a drive to be the best.
Bad boyyyyssssssss can't be beat love the pistons
So the Chicago boys fights haha. Zeke vs Mike
R.I.P Len Bias
I love Jordan. The G.O.A.T!!!!!!!
Do you love him or do you love the way he played basketball ? 🖤👽
@@leonbridges1802 basketball legend
The twilight of what was an awesome era for "raw" physicality in The NBA, as in all sports. Be reminded, prior to the '80s, society was more punitive and unforgiving, Kids were tougher and more self-reliant, and, there were fewer teams vying for a giant surplus of upper-quality players, who were overseen by "weak" Players' Associations. Back then, Darwinian-like rules invited constant 'Intimidation'.
What superstar today compares to Larry Bird? Not een remotely? In hockey, to Gordie Howe, who'd win scorin' trophies while bein'a League leader in fights and pen/min.? In Football, to The vintage Raiders of 'Old'? In Baseball, familiar occurrances, like ruthless Slides, a la 'Ty Cobb', and some 'chin music'. Come to think, regards physical play, whistles were largely kept in the pocket. Now, almost can't even touch a QB.
The rules in all sports have made the leagues soft. You bring up a great point, talent is one thing, but it’ll only go so far against brute force and intimidation.
MJ is mad because he had to work out to build more muscles and stronger bones to overcome the "jordan rules" . his hate keeps the fire burning in him to overcome any obstacles. :)
in fairness, they beat the crap out of him...none of that stuff, which was the norm at the time, is accepted today...some of those Laimbeer fouls would garner 10 game suspensions these days and they weren't even Tech's or "flagrant" fouls...it was a whole different era
GREEDY???? Nah,, its not about GREED. Its about being the best of all time, all the time!! The competitiveness to win and beat the best at their best!!. Its not greed Rich, Thats the GOAT!!!
You almost forgot Salley played for the Bulls
I'm sure it's not a pleasant memory when it's brought back up, and he still doesn't like them. Does he think of them every day? Probably not.
Still petty crying about a hand shake you didn’t get, twenty years after the fact.
GOAT did lose 3 years in a row against those PISTONS...3 years in a row included 2 ECF in a row(finally won their 3rd ECF...while getting beaten up! yeah, I understand MJ
I dont believe He is thinking about The Pistons everyday but He is entitled to feel the way He feels about The Pistons, when they talk about The rivalry! For Reals!
Angel Marte, true. He is entitled to be petty. And we are entitled to mention it.
Yes, he does.
Bad Boys played dirty that time
No they played physical
MJ=🐐🐐🐐🐐
Plus two.more 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 Michael.
We are talking about The G.O.aA.T...🐐✊
C'mon, Mike, how they gonna stop you? You're lucky the hacks didn't bring a weapon.
Is this an interrogation or an interview?
To be fair, the Celtics had lingering hatred of the Bad Boys, Lakers had lingering hatred of the Bad Boys. Maybe it's the Bad Boys that's the problem.
Celtics beat, Lakers beat, Bulls beat...maybe that was the problem
@@garycrow1943 Lakers don't hate the Celtics, don't hate the Bulls, Blazers, Suns, Sonics don't hate the Bulls. Everybody hates the Pistons, including Malone. Maybe you need to look in the mirror. Everybody hates you.
Bad Boys!! 2 time back to back WORLD CHAMPIONS!! Everybody can hate all they want!! 🥱
@@TWN321 Say it again!
When it comes to the Bad Boys the Bulls sound like jilted lovers. 3-1. Bad Boys 4 ever!
Did john salley get swept???
Yeah, Jordan seems like the type to hold a grudge.
Some one tell Sally Jesse Raphael aka peanut head. That the interview was a reflection of the past. Past tense.
When mj lost he still shook hands
Difference is the Pistons never talked trash to the media about MJ & his family like MJ did about a few of the Pistons. Why would shake a guys hand that trash talked about your wife & kids. F MJ he was a big POS. But the media had him as the golden boy. There are several players from the NBA that could not stand MJ & knew he was not a good person. Pistons off the court were good guys. They just embraced what how many teams were playing at that time. Malone is probably the dirtiest player ever. That prick cut more eyes flinging his elbows then anyone & he was a child rapist.
Who cares it was 29 years ago why is Jordan still whining about it such a crybaby just like when he played
@@arizonaFIREent He's not whining about anything. He was asked how he felt about it and he gave his answer that he's still pissed off. And he never cried playing the Pistons. He took their dirty tactics and still never backed down from the challenge.
BBBYpsi people are incapable of being objective when it comes to MJ
@@LordBranniganThe you know back in 2017 Michael Jordan was answering questions from middle school kids. And one of the kids asked who was the hardest person to guard. He immediately said Isaiah Thomas several times. But yet he wanted to keep him off the Dream Team and wanted to do nothing but bad mouth him and said he wasn't a good player and everything else.
The pistons were great football players .
Now this is funny 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏿♂️🤣🤣😂
jajajajajajaja
Dirty football players
in 25years playing with serbian people in basketball and football ive seen alot of punch ups, isnt this normal in competetive sports i dont get whats the big deal.i think michael holds himself for whom he is very well
slazem se. pistonsi su bili dobri
gruba ali talentovana ekipa su bili pistoni
Wow, I didn't realize Isiah was from Chicago. That adds to this whole thing.
@SuperPunch76 he was.
Why would he organize a FREEZE OUT if he wasn't?
Zeke was that snake who always wanted to be ranked along with Magic and Bird.
He was proud of his CHICAGO heritage.
@@realitybites629 Larry Bird and Dr. J were part of a FREEZE OUT.
@@zeke1171 Zeke was the pointguard who ORAGANIZED it.
Jordan’s crazy.
I hope the rest of series doesn't even mention Detriot. Don't need to make the series about Bulls Pistons to much left in MJ career
BIG- L it doesn’t
Bad Boys got the reputation badly primarily because of Laimbeer's flagrant defences style.
Nba players of that time did not like how they tried to ruin their careers instead of winning a game
@Mark L Boston was dirty as well but nobody talks about how much do you remember the INFAMOUS CLOTHESLINE INCIDENT with Kevin McHale and Kurt Rambis in the '85 Finals.
@Mark L Again I saw the Celtics do cheap shots against players in the '70s and were never punished for their actions. I think that Bird played the role of instigator in that clothesline incident with McHale and Rambis.Yes it was '84 I always thought that it was '85.
@Mark L I watched the Celtics in the '70s.McHale told a story about how Bird was playing the role of instigator with Elvin Hayes telling him that McHale said that he was going to dominate him in a game.
His reputation of being a bully who should have been banned from basketball
Waking off the court doesn’t make you mentally strong.
Boston did it? They also played dirty AF against the Lakers. People forget when Kevin Mchale clothesline Kurt rambis. When Boston play exactly like Detroit to beat the Lakers.
And trashing 2x champions in the paper behind their backs does?
SN2903 no shaking their hands two years in a row, even though you hate them and you just lost to them, makes you mentally strong. Thus 6 NBA Championships in 8 years.
George V then why do we stress our youth shake hands after games? Now that doesn’t matter? That was total bs.
@@williamscott6947 0 championships against the Lakers, celtics or pistons in their primes. Isiah had a broken wrist in '91 and laimbeer was old. Facts are stubborn things.
Nobody force Scottie to sign his contract. Michael is upset with the bad boys because when you beat him he shook your hands and you couldn't do the same.
Salley did do the same he famously asked to be put back in the game so he was not a part of walking off the court so he could congratulate the Bulls.
Stop with the bs about sportsmanship and do some actual research. Jordan called them "undeserving champs" after Game 3. _That_ is what pushed Laimbeer over the edge to suggest the walk-off. Jordan deserved it because he couldn't keep his f*cking mouth shut.
Hahahaha what a dreamer
Hilarious
Sally is Jordans frat brother.
It's weird because you never hear from Corey Blount or Dickey Simpkins that much in regards to the Bulls/Pistons rivalry, they usually go to MJ, Scottie, Phil or Dennis...but for some reason the Pistons go deep into the depth chart to have Salley out there as their mouthpiece.
Seems like all the Nba players are saying the Pistons carried it to far trying to ruin other players careers not just win the game.
No wonder MJ was so good. He was married to the game
Wrong word “greedy”. Is that how you see MJ?
MJ is so greedy he didn't even give his kids his basketball genes
[] that I agree
@@LeNoLi. Actually his daughter could play but she chose not to. The NBA never tried to draft one of his sons first or second round.
It is funny Jordan willingly played with Rodman, Salley and Daly but not Thomas. That says alot about him and Thomas.
And so far, MJ, Pippen and Phil Jackson have said really complimentary things about Dennis for the most part.
Says more about Jordan than it does about Thomas. You won't find too many people more petty (and hypocritical, mind you) than Jordan.
John is not honest, they actively tried to end this guy's career especially lambert.
I would go to sleep hating them too.
Salley is right. After Jordan came in the NBA protected him. They allowed him to push off and palm the ball, etc.
and to travel constantly.
I think you guys are getting the 23’s mixed up. The nba actually called traveling back in the 80’s and 90’s. Not so much today. Lebron consistently travels, pushes off, and carries.
@@Renegade-jk4ux You need to do some actual research for a change. Jordan got away with quite a bit of travelling. Ewing, as well. Jordan also got away with hooking and knocking the hands and arms of defenders out of the way. Superstar treatment was rampant in the '80s and '90s.
The pistons live rent free in MJ head lol
It's a Chicago bulls documentary yet everyone is talking about the Pistons it's clearly the other way around
6 championships compared to 2, I don't think so, it isiah that will never forget
Other way around Zeke may smile and act like he's over it, and him being from Chicago too, if someone not paying rent it's JORDAN.
@@DesmondDaddy Zeke can always say his team beat the Bulls the most so neither of them should really be mad.
Jordan is a Billionaire he ain't still mad about nothing...Its called must see TV and keep people talking and it worked...Its called good marketing and give people what they want to hear...Mike living his best life
🎯
People tend to remember when someone tries to decapitate them, Johnny! U guys were dirty , difference between physical and dirty, u guys were dirty!
ABSOLUTELY DRIVEN!😠
🖕Salley Mae Jenkins 😂😂😂
Goats just pissed he lost to us 3 straight years. Baaaad boys baaaad boys!
Pistons 1987-1991 my favorite still, beat Jordan at his best with his full team and that why he hates them.
Not at his best. 15 pounds of muscle added after 90, mid-range to three shot, post up moves. There's more to basketball than running and jumping. Otherwise it would be "Track and Field."
🧢 not at his best
Yea Phil Jackson wasn’t there yet
Rodman was the key here, switch him and Bulls win…and they did
Bulls won they first chip in 91…
Lambier was the reason for all the hate. He was dirty and should have been thrown out of the NBA. I stopped watching the NBA for 6 years until he retired.
He deserved no accolades, no applause and no induction into anything.
Bad Boys forever. I remember the Bad Boys called Jordan and Pippen punks! I fell out. I saw them when Lambeer in several different games punched Bird in the jaw, he smacked Parrish in the back of the head. People loved the Pistons. Yes!!!
I am getting bored with all the Jordon talk, is he the only exciting player to ever play the game of basketball. Please can we turn the page ? 🖤👽
the pistons should of won 3 titles in a row..1 game away from it..they got cheated in 88..i would think about them too..thomas will always be the one guy who had a winning record vs prime mj...
Isiah Thomas took more punishment in the paint than any player in his era. He never cried about it, neither. Jordan dramatic, like the Pistons were ending careers. They didn't shake my hand. Stop crying.
MJ is still at his mom because she made him wait 9 months to come out.
Michael still doesn’t understand that he played a team sport. The Pistons in their prime were simply a better team than the pre-91 baby Bulls.
Why Isaiah was not in the dream team?
Michael Jordan and the rest of the dream team help with the cover up of the century.
Love magic but we all know he was the instigator
@@qs4177 Well, Magic had a right to. Isiah shouldn’t have said what he said in the press about Magic’s HIV diagnosis.
Instead they embraced guys who couldn't win a title.: Barkley, Stockton and Malone. They felt sorry for them.
Rich is BS, calling Jordan greedy!
So basically MJ practiced before practice and worked out in the pool after practice. And yes I’m talking about practice, not a game but practice
Is Salley jumping ship now?
Wow can he jump ship when Spider was MJ's teammates.
Everyone except the Detroit players and fans hated the Pistons. The game has changed so much that they wouldn't even be allowed to play like that today. Instead of "The Bad Boys", they'd be known as "The Flagrant Foulers". Laimbeer, Rodman, and Mahorn would get ejected midway through the first quarter in today's game.
The Standard Detroit Pistons Lie at 1:33.....usually, the lie is supported by an instance of some non-Pistons player playing rough, as if that proves everybody was as dirty as the Pistons---they weren't.
Qohqkq is a good one for me and qoqoq with the other stuff and that quick and will qpq
"Mentally strong.." please. D.pistons used brute force..zero skill to wwin against jordan
You’re an complete idiot if you think that
Jordan has always been petty.
He really lost it when security tape of him at the Mirage walking with some hot blonde got leaked to the public.
@@jeffreymancini409 lol. I never knew about that! MJ was always a bit of a fraud.
detroit wasnt clean. They didnt play tough and clean they were trying to hurt jordan they played dirty. There is a difference. They wanted to end careers with the Jordan rules and how they played. yes, i would be pissed off as well.
Jordan is still angry because of the fact that he thought those PISTON TITLES should have belonged to The Bulls.
And we kind of got robbed in 87, 88.....Pistons had a shot to have won a couple more.
@@toddjohnson271 "Kind of" in '88? Alcindor got away with a travel _before_ that bs foul call.
Hatred for bad boy pistons, until Shaq and penny rock you then you need Rodman to guard Shaq and get you back to the finals. Jordan only hates young black men and people who disagree with him and don't fear him 😱
Dumb comment- he only had 17 games, and wasn't in basketball shape. 2nd half of your comment was even dumber
Salley is kind of a hater
Jordon called out Scotty for not getting his surgery done. Scotty didn’t care because he was underpaid for his abilities. You think Jordon wouldn’t have done the same thing if he was the one getting underpaid?
Jordan WAS underpaid for most of his career.
The Guy has a grudge he is not a Goat he has money a good life good health get over it. If MJ became sick he would let it go
jhoseph Levy what are you talking about??
F pistons !!
That's because they were goons pretending to be basketball players
Because Michael Jordan has to wake up every morning knowing he will always have a losing record against the Bad Boys.
He doesn’t hate Larry Bird despite being swept by them.
Except for the fact MJ has more rings than the Pistons franchise lmao
Casual comment. Kids these days.
@@97NikeSb Yeah but he only beat them one time outta four in the playoffs and that’s why it bothers him.
@@datsapaddlin not his fault the pistons sucked after that loss.