Absolutely! I hated the Pistons growing up in the 80's and 90's but I always respected them as players and especially Joe. He was then and still is a class act.
Regardless how these guys (ie all the pistons at that time) alot of them still made the wrong decision to walk off and not do the correct thing ie "etiquette" Joe Dumars a gentleman RESPECT 😔🙏 Isiah need to live with it (which I'm sure he does) but Isiah's actions put a roadblock as far as representing team USA (aka the Dream Team in 92) that he'll find hard to do until he dies "IT IS WHAT IT IS"🤔
@Flint Mi He shouldn't have fired Rick Carlisle either for Larry Brown bcuz Rick is a great coach he just needs the talent to win chips like he did in Dallas.Rick is a good offense and defensive coach unlike Brown who is mostly defense and help cost them that chip against the Spurs bcuz his plays were predictable every possession
@@BicMichuM I'm sure he does mos def. A lot of it is media hype. They have dope plays together in the all star games as teammates. Minus the snub game tho lol
Dumars is called "gentleman joe" for a reason. the quiet assasin. This guy is underrated. i mean .. he is mvp finals in a final bringing together Magic, Kareem and Isiah. We can call this a huge accomplishment. His defense is incredible, even mike say it. it means something. + he won a piston ring as a coach too, this dude is everywhere in the history of pistons, one of the biggest franchises in history. This guy didn't follow bill and the others left the court. and off the court, everything he says makes sense. Great respect to this guy, he is underestimated
he had some missteps later that hurt his legacy; but i do agree, its just unfortunate the last things he did were let ben wallace go, trade billups, etc
JORDAN IS A HYPOCRITE.... jordan said about B.J. ARMSTRONG "ITS EASY TOTALK TRASH WHEN YOU AHEAD"... then when jordan and bulls was 3 - 0 up on the pistons he went in the press saying "PISTONS WERE BAD CHAMPIONS". if he had gone in the press when it was 0 - 0, it could of fired them up, that is what bugged them and they didnt shake hands.. so by his own standards, jordan is a hypocrite.
JORDAN IS A HYPOCRITE.... jordan said about B.J. ARMSTRONG "ITS EASY TOTALK TRASH WHEN YOU AHEAD"... then when jordan and bulls was 3 - 0 up on the pistons he went in the press saying "PISTONS WERE BAD CHAMPIONS". if he had gone in the press when it was 0 - 0, it could of fired them up, that is what bugged them and they didnt shake hands.. so by his own standards, jordan is a hypocrite.
@Jay Thompson cry more of what. I think jordan is the greatest. By if hes gonna moralise looking back on his career then he should be held to his high standards
@Jonah Falcon Joe Dumars same age as MJ. False narratives. If you don't like MJ, just say it straight. Don't put out narratives that aren't true just to give terrible reasoning for putting down anybody. MJ was younger than Larry and Magic so when they retired he will still be playing. At age 35, MJ was the oldest player to win regular season MVP scoring title all star game MVP and Finals MVP. That's why they proclaimed him the greatest by dominating the league at that age which nobody done anything close.
Dumars jumper was pure. Great defensive guard. Finals MVP. Had maybe the greatest defensive play in NBA Finals history at the end of Game 3, 1989 Finals.
Joe Dumars was ALWAYS my favorite Piston from the Bad Boy Piston days. He was, and still is, class personified. One of the more underrated stars of his time. Joe Dumars really let Isiah shine because of his personality...but he was as talented, but not as flashy as Isiah. He reminds me of what Klay Thompson is today to Steph Curry...one doesn't win without the other. Michael Jordan always had the highest respect for Joe as a player and as a man. Whenever MJ knew he was going to go against Dumars...he knew he had to step his game to another level...Joe D was nothing to play with on both sides of the ball. One of the alltime great players and men...JOE DUMARS!!!
@@kennythai1978 Agreed Kenny Thai. I was not a Piston Fan. I was a Bulls fan...but had the highest respect for JD as a player and as a man. I think players/fans around the league felt the same way. Class personified!
I became a basketball fan when Jordan came into the league and saw almost every single game he played. Joe Dumars was one of the toughest opponents Jordan faced and he's now just like he was back then a real class act. God bless you Joe.
Word, especially considering that he had to face Payton, Kobe, Dennis Johnson, Pippen, and all the legendary bigs he had to drive against throughout his career.
@@justinbrosnahan6233 Its not all black and white when we address ball in the 80s /90s. Granted, these guys had physicality , but they knew a thing or two about tactics (how different types of screens work, or set plays) , and they knew far more about post game than current players (to the point that one of them , Hakeem , develop an arsenal of post moves that no one has managed to replicate to his perfection). Granted too, they did not have a side step/back step nor drenched buckets of 3s (because they were practicying other stuff, mostly) , but these guys are far removed from the plumbers that JJ Reddick and pals want to make us see. I still have to see someone that has more effective handles and crossover than Isiah Thomas or best footwork and post moves than Hakeem Olajuwon.
It's not weird. Joe was on that team but he conducted himself differently than a number of his teammates. He played fantastic defense but didn't have to beat the crap out of the other guy to do it. He was "Gentleman Joe," as he was called back in the day, and it showed. That is why there's no bitterness towards Joe Dumars.
Some of you clowns act as if the Pistons of that era were all ex-cons grouped together in an NBA team given the okay to terrorize the league. They weren’t on some type of special work release program. They played physical, defensive focused ball in an era where the league was physical. They had a backcourt that was virtually unmatched in the league at the time in terms of depth and potency (Thomas, Dumars and Vinnie Johnson). A front court that had the range to defend in the paint and the perimeter at an elite level along with players (Laimbeer, Aguirre, James Edwards) with a perimeter game to keep their opponents honest. Some folks just can’t get past either their ignorance fueled hate to even learn the facts or are just too lazy to do so.
Remember when Joe won a championship back in 2004 as GM??Jordan Called him and Congratulates him Asap💯 goes to show us that Dumars and Michael all along was good freinds off the court!! Mj personally hates Bill laimbeer😂 He respects Isaiah Thomas for sure
Jay 2Z exactly, he isn’t a “tough” player he’s a dirty player. Would love to see how laimbeer would react if he copped some of the whacks he dished out especially that one to Larry
Kimani Gregoire definitely. Pistons were lucky to have a guy like that. They couldn’t stop Jordan without Dumars. Dumars doesn’t get mentioned/credited enough!
@@russwalker4017 not really THE best defender. More like HIS best defender. Jordan was on the record for saying he had the hardest time being guarded by Dumars.
@@russwalker4017 nah Mike said Payton wasn't a problem at all. Even dropped 27 in seattle in the first half of game 3. However Seattle as a team always doubled Jordan, like the pistons, making it harder for him overall
Louisiana "Joe" Dumars was the Man on the Detroit Pistons..Isaiah Thomas got all the accolades but Joe Dumars was the "Quiet Killer" and I remember the 1988 Finals against the Lakers that terrible Foul called on Laimbeer against Kareem... Bullcrap call ..the Pistons would have three pleated 1988-1990. But they Repeated 1989 and 1990 .
Even though Mike is the goat.. Joe D was my man back then. And in my eyes the worst and the one that took all the bad credits back then was Bill laimbeer..
this makes me agree with a guy I cant stand, skip Bayless, who says when he watches LeBron play the whole time I'm shaking my head yelling , "Go to the freakin hole...!!! Everytime, put your heed down and use what God gave you, nobody can stop him...
@@allday6327 , Jordan was alot more exciting to watch than LeBron, Jordan had so man offensive moves away and at the basket it was simply amazing even 30 years later, LeBron is power and a great passer but Jordan could pass too, It's bigger than just that"killer mentality", Jordan was a better all around player not even close
I have no GOAT...truly, as everything is based on time periods. Jordan ruled the 90's, Magic&Bird 2/3 of the 80's (yes the Pistons are the only team to beat Magic, Bird, and MJ). MJ has never beaten Larry Legend...Boston swept them twice. Shaq , Kobe, and the Spurs ruled the 00's out west and Detroit rule out east until D Wade & Shaq and then Lebron out East. Its all about time periods...there will never be a GOAT ....or are we going to bring up Rocky to Mayweather fans too?
Think about this: If the walk off had anything to do with what Jordan said about the Pistons in the paper after game 3, then it would have been long pre-meditated and the entire team would have walked off. Looked to me like Laimbeer decided that on the spot, and some of the guys decided to follow along with it. Dumars and Salley didn't follow along.
@@AuthorAlanRogerCurrie If that's really you, I have to let you know that your work has been highly recommended by Oshay Duke Jackson. I definitely have to check out your stuff.
Underrated. When our Celts were ahead by 20 points and all of a sudden it was tied--It was frequently due to the deceptive quiet clutch scoring of Joe Dumars
Joe is a good guy. I like what he said about shaking hands. "Mike shook my hand every time we won, so of course when they won I shook his hand." Pretty cool dude
MJ said Dumars was the hardest opponent ever to guard him....He and Mike showed each other respect during their battles, evidenced by the passing communication between them after a hard (but never dirty) Dumars foul
Michael once said. Of all the bad boys he always respect is Joe Dumars. Zeke always had the bad rap coz of not shaking hands. Joe, on the other hand had the respect of MJ coz he was professional after loosing to the bulls.
JORDAN IS A HYPOCRITE.... jordan said about B.J. ARMSTRONG "ITS EASY TOTALK TRASH WHEN YOU AHEAD"... then when jordan and bulls was 3 - 0 up on the pistons he went in the press saying "PISTONS WERE BAD CHAMPIONS". if he had gone in the press when it was 0 - 0, it could of fired them up, that is what bugged them and they didnt shake hands.. so by his own standards, jordan is a hypocrite.
Mr Joe Dumars!One of the most Underrated players of All Time!Also one of most favorite Detroit Pistons players of all time Blue Collar,Humble,and a Class Act!
nah. isiah thomas dude. Joe is a legend in the pistons, probably the 2nd, and I know he has won a ring as a coach, it's great, don't make me say what I'm not said. But isiah is one of the best leader of all time, he is in the top 30 of the best player of all time, joe is in the top 70. But winning a ring at the coach position too it's great it's true
Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF it’s clear that you’re salty af over a difference of opinion. I go in on you, but I don’t debate with emotional little boys that walk in the spirit of single motherhood.😏
Dumars played Michael as tough as any 2 guard that ever played in NBA History: goes to show isaiah could've had the same approach but didn't! Thanks Joe for keeping it real!
Joe Dumars is the main reason why I’d even watch the Pistons. I don’t remember a rivalry they had with the Bulls. The Pacers yes but not much the Pistons. Anyway, awesome interview. Joe sounds super humble and has the skills to back him up.
Him and Isiah do not get the respect they deserve. Same with Dominique, Barkley, Drexler, James Worthy, Kareem, and McHale. Only MJ, Bird, and Magic are spoken of when HOF killers stacked that era.
Not to guys my age and hoopers. The media focus is on the few because they trying to get ratings. We praise Zeke continually especially against these small guards today.
Respect. You are wrong about the level of respect given to Kareem. I’ve never heard him omitted from Mt. Rushmore. Mike always mentions Magic and Bird cuz that was his focus.
When ESPN recently ranked top PGs all time and placed Isiah 4th, Magic (#1) immediately tweeted that “ain’t no Stockton (2) or Curry (3) better than no Isiah Thomas”
Bulls may hate Pistons players but they got three former Pistons during their 72-10 season. James Edwards, John Salley, and Dennis Rodman . Seems nice when your worst enemy becomes your most trusted ally .
Joe Dumars-- the class of the Detroit Pistons, still class today. I cheered for him and respected him even when I was cheering for Michael and the Bulls. This from a life-long Bulls fan.
I believe if they got melo they run would have been longer. Melo first year they won 43 games. Denver won 17 games the year before. Melo would have learned from the top professionals on that Detroit team.
@@joedon-hb4nl ppl seem to forget that young Melo had always been better than lebron both offensively and defensively until lebron needed to quit on his hometown to be mentored by wade in Miami.
Gentleman Joe. I was a sophomore in high school, in 1984-85, when Dumars began his senior year at McNeese State University, in Lake Charles, LA. I attended St. Louis High, very near the McNeese campus. It was pleasure to witness his career. People took note of his defensive skills (Joe's brother was a DB for the Jets), but the man could score. He left college as the 11th all-time leading scorer in NCAA history. Dumars always new how to adapt to what was needed, though. The Pistons already had Isiah, Kelley Tripucka, Vinny Johnson and John Long when he arrived. They needed defense and versatility. Does anyone ever remember Joe arguing a call? Yep, that was Gentleman Joe D.
IDK... One of the things that made MJ special was his physical gifts. Today he wouldn't be so special. Other playerS (plural) today would be able to stay in the air just as long as him and many of them aren't that good. And even Phil Jackson said Kobe worked harder. Also would he shoot more free-throws than James Harden? Do you think he would be able to put clamps on Kyree? Maybe. Today's game is more pure basketball. Not basketball mixed with football or wrestling. Just basketball.
It was called DEFENSE something that is way lacking in the league today and today everyone of these players are buddies there are no buddies when your on the court....its a war and the best brigade wins...PERIOD
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Joe D....The Detroit Pistons quiet assassin! Probably the quietest Hall of Fame career of anybody's. Class individual on and off the court.
Absolutely! I hated the Pistons growing up in the 80's and 90's but I always respected them as players and especially Joe. He was then and still is a class act.
Always the one to deal the deathblow.
Regardless how these guys (ie all the pistons at that time) alot of them still made the wrong decision to walk off and not do the correct thing ie "etiquette" Joe Dumars a gentleman RESPECT 😔🙏 Isiah need to live with it (which I'm sure he does) but Isiah's actions put a roadblock as far as representing team USA (aka the Dream Team in 92) that he'll find hard to do until he dies "IT IS WHAT IT IS"🤔
@Flint Mi He shouldn't have fired Rick Carlisle either for Larry Brown bcuz Rick is a great coach he just needs the talent to win chips like he did in Dallas.Rick is a good offense and defensive coach unlike Brown who is mostly defense and help cost them that chip against the Spurs bcuz his plays were predictable every possession
finals mvp
Dumars is all class. My favorite player from that squad. Underrated as well.
Ditto....
Salley too
Agreed!!
I get what you mean but in the D, this guy was never underrated.
Dumars is Class and Isaiah and Lambeer are NOT
I am definitely not a Pistons fan but Joe Dumars is straight CLASS!! He was a great player and seems like a better person!!
Jordan may not have liked the Pistons. But he had mad respect for JDumars and still does
no doubt
He respect Isiah as a player too...just watch after episode5 😀
@@BicMichuM I'm sure he does mos def. A lot of it is media hype. They have dope plays together in the all star games as teammates. Minus the snub game tho lol
Jordan didnt ''like'' the pistons because they owned him. think about it. who ''likes'' the team they cannot beat. it took the bulls forever to do so.
just like everyone else. Dumars is pure class.
Dumars is called "gentleman joe" for a reason. the quiet assasin. This guy is underrated. i mean .. he is mvp finals in a final bringing together Magic, Kareem and Isiah. We can call this a huge accomplishment. His defense is incredible, even mike say it. it means something. + he won a piston ring as a coach too, this dude is everywhere in the history of pistons, one of the biggest franchises in history. This guy didn't follow bill and the others left the court. and off the court, everything he says makes sense. Great respect to this guy, he is underestimated
Facts
President of basketball operations not a coach
@@slickrick2685 right, my bad
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he had some missteps later that hurt his legacy; but i do agree, its just unfortunate the last things he did were let ben wallace go, trade billups, etc
RESPECT TO JOE FOR BEING THE BIGGER MAN! he said it perfectly ''im a grown man, im gona shake his hand the way he shook mine'' point blank ........
This is a true real man. Jordan is the GOAT. Just check this in the World outside the USA. Nobody even considers LeBron as close to Jordan.
@@daveleteipan7320 Who was talking about Lebron?
JORDAN IS A HYPOCRITE.... jordan said about B.J. ARMSTRONG "ITS EASY TOTALK TRASH WHEN YOU AHEAD"... then when jordan and bulls was 3 - 0 up on the pistons he went in the press saying "PISTONS WERE BAD CHAMPIONS". if he had gone in the press when it was 0 - 0, it could of fired them up, that is what bugged them and they didnt shake hands.. so by his own standards, jordan is a hypocrite.
@@paulbmonks no
@@paulbmonks 🤣🤣🤣!What?
HE SHOOK MY HAND EVERY TIME WE DEFEATED HIM AND I COULD TELL HE WAS DEVASTATED AND SAID ..GOOD LUCK N THE FINALS.... (Man)
GEECHIELIFE MEDIA FACTS!
JORDAN IS A HYPOCRITE.... jordan said about B.J. ARMSTRONG "ITS EASY TOTALK TRASH WHEN YOU AHEAD"... then when jordan and bulls was 3 - 0 up on the pistons he went in the press saying "PISTONS WERE BAD CHAMPIONS". if he had gone in the press when it was 0 - 0, it could of fired them up, that is what bugged them and they didnt shake hands.. so by his own standards, jordan is a hypocrite.
@Jay Thompson cry more of what. I think jordan is the greatest. By if hes gonna moralise looking back on his career then he should be held to his high standards
@Bogdan P i refer you to my original comment
@@paulbmonks what?🙄😂😂😂Do you even know what your talking about?
He didn’t earn that nickname for nothing. Gentlemen Joe.. He has sportsmanship award named after him. One of classiest guys in the nba
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@Jonah Falcon Joe Dumars same age as MJ. False narratives. If you don't like MJ, just say it straight. Don't put out narratives that aren't true just to give terrible reasoning for putting down anybody. MJ was younger than Larry and Magic so when they retired he will still be playing. At age 35, MJ was the oldest player to win regular season MVP scoring title all star game MVP and Finals MVP. That's why they proclaimed him the greatest by dominating the league at that age which nobody done anything close.
Dumars jumper was pure. Great defensive guard. Finals MVP. Had maybe the greatest defensive play in NBA Finals history at the end of Game 3, 1989 Finals.
Joe Dumars was ALWAYS my favorite Piston from the Bad Boy Piston days. He was, and still is, class personified. One of the more underrated stars of his time. Joe Dumars really let Isiah shine because of his personality...but he was as talented, but not as flashy as Isiah. He reminds me of what Klay Thompson is today to Steph Curry...one doesn't win without the other. Michael Jordan always had the highest respect for Joe as a player and as a man. Whenever MJ knew he was going to go against Dumars...he knew he had to step his game to another level...Joe D was nothing to play with on both sides of the ball. One of the alltime great players and men...JOE DUMARS!!!
BlkDiesel even though back in the days I really hate the PISTONS but I do really really like JD he was awesome!!!!!
@@kennythai1978 Agreed Kenny Thai. I was not a Piston Fan. I was a Bulls fan...but had the highest respect for JD as a player and as a man. I think players/fans around the league felt the same way. Class personified!
BlkDiesel The BULLS were the BEAST OF THE 90s
Dumars, Thomas and Vinnie Johnson...one of the top guard trios of all-time.
The microwave...
A very true statement
Michael S as well as the old Sonics backcourt of Gus Williams, Dennis Johnson, and Fred Brown.
Not one of top 3, the best guard trio in the famous words of Mason......."EVA!"
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Man this is the guy I wanted to hear from. Very refreshing to hear Joe Dumars.
First!
Dumars was always a classy guy.
Nonya Bidnez Yeah I always liked Dumars . Too bad most of his teammates were aholes. Dumars is extremely underrated as a player
@@christiansoldier77 yup, I hated the pistons with a passion. but I always loved and respected the way Dumars carried himself. complete class act.
And when a timeout was called and Joe gave you an elbow to the gut. That was classy Joe.
Nonya Bidnez I wear a tuxedo when I have sex
I became a basketball fan when Jordan came into the league and saw almost every single game he played. Joe Dumars was one of the toughest opponents Jordan faced and he's now just like he was back then a real class act. God bless you Joe.
Joe Dumars was the only member of the Pistons that MJ liked
He's friends with John Salley
During those days, Jordan was cool with John Salley as well.
@@sportingminds3311 Did not know that thanks you
That’s funny but true
Rodman is friends with him as well now
Joe D. Defensive stalwart, offensive threat, championship GM, class personified.
hahah bro i read that in Stephen A Smith's voice
Joe Dumars: CLASS ACT... AS ALWAYS!! Great interview guys!
Jordan sais that Dumars was the best defender he has faced, that say something about the player Dumars is!😎
I remember that
Word, especially considering that he had to face Payton, Kobe, Dennis Johnson, Pippen, and all the legendary bigs he had to drive against throughout his career.
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@@MistaWordz Jordan never faced Pippen
As a Lakers fan, Dumars and Isiah were a tough match up for us. Respect
Joe d! One of the coolest guy and greatest player in the 90's.
What a great interview. Dumars showed how you really give an interview.
This my friend , is how you handle a interview when people are trying to sucker a controversial answer out of you.
Hey dollarbill, do you think Joe did`nt mean what he was saying or do you think he really thinks like Isiah?
Might be the most underrated player to lace up
A man with class, love Joe Dumars, he respected the battles and the one he battled with. The way it should be.
“It was a different league back then, we some grown men back then “ LET THAT SINK IN WHEN YOU DISCUSS WHO THE GOAT IS .......
Nuff said!!! Grown men not crybaby's.
@@terenceansworth1548 rather be skilled then physical.
WT??
@@justinbrosnahan6233 Its not all black and white when we address ball in the 80s /90s. Granted, these guys had physicality , but they knew a thing or two about tactics (how different types of screens work, or set plays) , and they knew far more about post game than current players (to the point that one of them , Hakeem , develop an arsenal of post moves that no one has managed to replicate to his perfection). Granted too, they did not have a side step/back step nor drenched buckets of 3s (because they were practicying other stuff, mostly) , but these guys are far removed from the plumbers that JJ Reddick and pals want to make us see. I still have to see someone that has more effective handles and crossover than Isiah Thomas or best footwork and post moves than Hakeem Olajuwon.
Funny, the one who actually had to guard him is the one with the most character.
Lots of class !!
Everyone says that about joe he was the “Nice Guy” on the team still would knock your head off if you tested him lol
@@MR.__G n3! ³3!n2²!! ²!¡
"Louisiana born n bred and most definitely fed." It's all about RESPECT OUR WAY
EXACTLY.
Joe Dumars was a great player and a gentleman. He’s still a gentleman and a pleasure to listen to
it’s weird that even though dumars was on the bad boy pistons it seems like everyone loves him
It's not weird. Joe was on that team but he conducted himself differently than a number of his teammates. He played fantastic defense but didn't have to beat the crap out of the other guy to do it. He was "Gentleman Joe," as he was called back in the day, and it showed. That is why there's no bitterness towards Joe Dumars.
@@bradahrens4129 yep - he shook hands after game 7, says it all.
Some of you clowns act as if the Pistons of that era were all ex-cons grouped together in an NBA team given the okay to terrorize the league. They weren’t on some type of special work release program. They played physical, defensive focused ball in an era where the league was physical. They had a backcourt that was virtually unmatched in the league at the time in terms of depth and potency (Thomas, Dumars and Vinnie Johnson). A front court that had the range to defend in the paint and the perimeter at an elite level along with players (Laimbeer, Aguirre, James Edwards) with a perimeter game to keep their opponents honest.
Some folks just can’t get past either their ignorance fueled hate to even learn the facts or are just too lazy to do so.
Remember when Joe won a championship back in 2004 as GM??Jordan Called him and Congratulates him Asap💯 goes to show us that Dumars and Michael all along was good freinds off the court!! Mj personally hates Bill laimbeer😂 He respects Isaiah Thomas for sure
Everybody hates Laimbeer XD
Laimbeer almost badly injured Larry Bird once. Larry snapped and wrestled with him. He was just playing nasty, not just "physical" like he says
I mean joe named his son after Mike lol
@@JSB-2Z-2K they were all dirty players McHale and bird included. If you really watched those games they would go at it....
Jay 2Z exactly, he isn’t a “tough” player he’s a dirty player. Would love to see how laimbeer would react if he copped some of the whacks he dished out especially that one to Larry
Joe Dumars was probably the one player on those Bad Boys Pistons that you couldn't hate. He was always a class act.
Kimani Gregoire definitely. Pistons were lucky to have a guy like that. They couldn’t stop Jordan without Dumars. Dumars doesn’t get mentioned/credited enough!
Mike even did an on court interview after losing. No one does that. Class act 🐐
The one guy that gave Michael Jordan Hell on defense.Anybody old school remember that
Hell yeah!! Nobody played mike like joe
And Mike respects Joe!
Wayne Hawkins JD was a beast defender! In the to 5 in my opinion!
And never was dirty or played over the line
Joe Dumars has always been a class act!
Joe Dumars is the one guy on that Pistons team who Michael has talked good about. I don’t count Dennis Rodman because he became a teammate later on.
John Salley as well
Floyd Stewart true
And Chuck Daly
John Salley
James Edwards also...
Great show guys, much respect for Joe Dumars, a class act.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Shout out Joe D. Class act and he kept it real the whole time!
MJ considered Dumars the best defender. That says something
did MJ really said that? I thought it was Payton who gave MJ the fits
@@russwalker4017 not really THE best defender. More like HIS best defender. Jordan was on the record for saying he had the hardest time being guarded by Dumars.
Yes, I always remember Jordan having the utmost respect for Dumars. Jordan didn't hate the entire Piston team, certainly not when it came to Dumars.
@@russwalker4017 Payton came later MJ gave props to Dumars cause that was a greater challenge. (Pistons)
@@russwalker4017 nah Mike said Payton wasn't a problem at all. Even dropped 27 in seattle in the first half of game 3. However Seattle as a team always doubled Jordan, like the pistons, making it harder for him overall
I think the rivalry between the
pistons and bulls has gotten a second life.
Jordan respected Joe Dumars the most on that team.
Louisiana "Joe" Dumars was the Man on the Detroit Pistons..Isaiah Thomas got all the accolades but Joe Dumars was the "Quiet Killer" and I remember the 1988 Finals against the Lakers that terrible Foul called on Laimbeer against Kareem... Bullcrap call ..the Pistons would have three pleated 1988-1990. But they Repeated 1989 and 1990 .
Even though Mike is the goat.. Joe D was my man back then. And in my eyes the worst and the one that took all the bad credits back then was Bill laimbeer..
Classy, skilled, great defender, silent assassin on offense, as good as any guard to ever play.
Hated the Detroit Pistons but respected Joe D for sure!!!
Same here!
Yeah so what?
WELL SAID GUYS, I'm 49 I seen Michael Jordan come into the league and of course Lebron James, fellows i got to give the GOAT to MICHAEL JORDAN.
this makes me agree with a guy I cant stand, skip Bayless, who says when he watches LeBron play the whole time I'm shaking my head yelling , "Go to the freakin hole...!!! Everytime, put your heed down and use what God gave you, nobody can stop him...
@@allday6327 , Jordan was alot more exciting to watch than LeBron, Jordan had so man offensive moves away and at the basket it was simply amazing even 30 years later, LeBron is power and a great passer but Jordan could pass too, It's bigger than just that"killer mentality", Jordan was a better all around player not even close
LeBron 🐐
Jordan was a psychopath who treated practice like it was game 7 of the NBA finals. Why do we even have this debate?
I have no GOAT...truly, as everything is based on time periods. Jordan ruled the 90's, Magic&Bird 2/3 of the 80's (yes the Pistons are the only team to beat Magic, Bird, and MJ). MJ has never beaten Larry Legend...Boston swept them twice. Shaq , Kobe, and the Spurs ruled the 00's out west and Detroit rule out east until D Wade & Shaq and then Lebron out East. Its all about time periods...there will never be a GOAT ....or are we going to bring up Rocky to Mayweather fans too?
Jordan mentioned one time in his early videos thet dumars was the best defender he played against.
i respect ton a lot Dumars! was hoping he was in the last dance :(
emma bach me too
Joe definitely was a great player and even MJ mentioned how tough Joe was. Joe D was the decent guy on the Pistons those bad boy years
Think about this: If the walk off had anything to do with what Jordan said about the Pistons in the paper after game 3, then it would have been long pre-meditated and the entire team would have walked off. Looked to me like Laimbeer decided that on the spot, and some of the guys decided to follow along with it. Dumars and Salley didn't follow along.
*BINGO*
Rodman stayed on the floor too
@@berlingray8058 Interesting! I didn't catch that.
Isiah should’ve stood up to Bill. He knows that
@@AuthorAlanRogerCurrie If that's really you, I have to let you know that your work has been highly recommended by Oshay Duke Jackson. I definitely have to check out your stuff.
I like Joe Dumars.
I love joe dumars. Hall of fame champion twice. DRAFTED MEDVIDANKO. thanks bro.
Honest answer from Joe Dumars
Michael JORDAN is the G.O.A.T
Bad Boys Pistons definitely one of my all time favourites. Love them!
Likewise, as a Bulls fan, I have MAD respect for Joe Dumars.
Me too!!
Underrated. When our Celts were ahead by 20 points and all of a sudden it was tied--It was frequently due to the deceptive quiet clutch scoring of Joe Dumars
Some folks sleeping on this man's legendary defense.
Right up there with the Glove, Rodman and Pip in defending the perimeter.
And if you didn't come ready to play Joe D would light you up on offense! He was a great player!
Joe is just positive vibes, I love it
one of the greatest guards in the NBA, a class act across the board.
Joey D was MVP of the finals. This dude was unreal. Underrated ...ya needed to watch him.
mad respect to Joe. Class act gentleman.
Facts!
Joe is a good guy. I like what he said about shaking hands.
"Mike shook my hand every time we won, so of course when they won I shook his hand."
Pretty cool dude
Mad respect and love for Joe D and Isiah Thomas. They rep’d the ‘D’ as well as any.
Salute
Joe Dumars......Class Act!!!!!
MJ said Dumars was the hardest opponent ever to guard him....He and Mike showed each other respect during their battles, evidenced by the passing communication between them after a hard (but never dirty) Dumars foul
Class Joe, much respect!
Vinnie the microwave Johnson was my favorite on pistons 👍🏾
GROWN MEN!!!! SENSITIVE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD NOW!!!!
Joe Dumas and John Salley was the only Detroit players to congratulate the Bulls
Michael once said. Of all the bad boys he always respect is Joe Dumars. Zeke always had the bad rap coz of not shaking hands. Joe, on the other hand had the respect of MJ coz he was professional after loosing to the bulls.
MadaFaka Sana
💯 Facts!!!
go back to 'the jordan rules' to illustrate peak bitchness by zeke. this was before the 'no handshake' incident.
@@samanthanickson6478 I agree.
JORDAN IS A HYPOCRITE.... jordan said about B.J. ARMSTRONG "ITS EASY TOTALK TRASH WHEN YOU AHEAD"... then when jordan and bulls was 3 - 0 up on the pistons he went in the press saying "PISTONS WERE BAD CHAMPIONS". if he had gone in the press when it was 0 - 0, it could of fired them up, that is what bugged them and they didnt shake hands.. so by his own standards, jordan is a hypocrite.
I already had a ton of respect for Joe Dumars who frankly is one of the most underrated players in NBA history. I have even more respect for him now.
Mr Joe Dumars!One of the most Underrated players of All Time!Also one of most favorite Detroit Pistons players of all time
Blue Collar,Humble,and a Class Act!
Joe D was the only Piston I respected. His high character stuck out like a sore thumb on that team.
I agree and as a lifetime Bulls fan I couldn't stand the Pistons then but through it all had mad respect for players like Dumars and Salley.
So what did someone like Vinny Johnson or John Sally,Chuck Nevitt,Mark Aguire,James Edwards ever do to make you hate them?
@@BBBYpsi I hated them for getting swept by the bulls and not being good enough to go on and win 6 ships like the bulls.
Them otha three rings had Detroit Dennis on y'all squad.
Vinnie too. Great 6th man who could start on MANY teams. Vinnie wasn't dirty, either.
Dumar's is 100% class personified. Facts!
Joe Dumars is pure old school, even his audio connection.
Lol good 1 bra
Having and showing class and sportsmanship always has a lasting effect
Love Joe D. The quiet assassin
Class Act Joe!!! Congratulations 👏 Big Brother
nothing but class........how sports should be
Naw
Joe Dumars, Class Act in Every Way!! Well done Joe!! Great show!!!
Dumars is the biggest legend on that Pistons team to me.
nah. isiah thomas dude. Joe is a legend in the pistons, probably the 2nd, and I know he has won a ring as a coach, it's great, don't make me say what I'm not said. But isiah is one of the best leader of all time, he is in the top 30 of the best player of all time, joe is in the top 70. But winning a ring at the coach position too it's great it's true
"to you" not to anyone logical
Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF it’s clear that you’re salty af over a difference of opinion. I go in on you, but I don’t debate with emotional little boys that walk in the spirit of single motherhood.😏
Underrated player
King Kemet 25 criminally underrated
Joe dumar is a class act.
Dumars played Michael as tough as any 2 guard that ever played in NBA History: goes to show isaiah could've had the same approach but didn't! Thanks Joe for keeping it real!
Dumars was always class personified.
Love and respect for Joe Dumars always, a “good dude.” 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🏀
Not once they mentioned he was a Finals MVP... smh...
in a final bringing together magic, kareem and isiah. this guy is underrated
Most underrated Team ever
Joe Dumars is the main reason why I’d even watch the Pistons. I don’t remember a rivalry they had with the Bulls. The Pacers yes but not much the Pistons. Anyway, awesome interview. Joe sounds super humble and has the skills to back him up.
EXACTLY the NBA is soft now, even Dennis Rodman said if Jordan was playing now he would avg 50pts a game.
This was a solid interview great clip .... Awesome work by OG Gentleman Joe Dumars 💪💯
Him and Isiah do not get the respect they deserve. Same with Dominique, Barkley, Drexler, James Worthy, Kareem, and McHale. Only MJ, Bird, and Magic are spoken of when HOF killers stacked that era.
Not to guys my age and hoopers. The media focus is on the few because they trying to get ratings. We praise Zeke continually especially against these small guards today.
Respect. You are wrong about the level of respect given to Kareem. I’ve never heard him omitted from Mt. Rushmore. Mike always mentions Magic and Bird cuz that was his focus.
When ESPN recently ranked top PGs all time and placed Isiah 4th, Magic (#1) immediately tweeted that “ain’t no Stockton (2) or Curry (3) better than no Isiah Thomas”
@@WavyJazzyBanks the pg position ain't the same anymore
I would take curry over IT any day
Dumars always been a real one!! ✌🇺🇸
a man's demeanor can really separate him from the rest. RESPECT.
Bulls may hate Pistons players but they got three former Pistons during their 72-10 season. James Edwards, John Salley, and Dennis Rodman . Seems nice when your worst enemy becomes your most trusted ally .
Jordan driving to the hole in today’s NBA would be insane.
Big facts
He would be like Westbrook times 100 going to the hole. Just dominating.
It's like getting into a fist fight then shaking hands afterwards like men......Joe D is straight class.
When u consider this load management bs, MJ might be the toughest guy to ever play considering how little games he missed.
Joe Dumars-- the class of the Detroit Pistons, still class today. I cheered for him and respected him even when I was cheering for Michael and the Bulls. This from a life-long Bulls fan.
The only dumb thing Dumars ever did was draft Darko. He could have had wade, Carmelo or Bosh
They were all In the same draft. How tf was he gonna get all 3? Lol
@@elp3035 he said OR.
Melo is a cancer pistons wouldn’t have won with him
I believe if they got melo they run would have been longer. Melo first year they won 43 games. Denver won 17 games the year before. Melo would have learned from the top professionals on that Detroit team.
@@joedon-hb4nl ppl seem to forget that young Melo had always been better than lebron both offensively and defensively until lebron needed to quit on his hometown to be mentored by wade in Miami.
Gentleman Joe. I was a sophomore in high school, in 1984-85, when Dumars began his senior year at McNeese State University, in Lake Charles, LA. I attended St. Louis High, very near the McNeese campus. It was pleasure to witness his career. People took note of his defensive skills (Joe's brother was a DB for the Jets), but the man could score. He left college as the 11th all-time leading scorer in NCAA history. Dumars always new how to adapt to what was needed, though. The Pistons already had Isiah, Kelley Tripucka, Vinny Johnson and John Long when he arrived. They needed defense and versatility. Does anyone ever remember Joe arguing a call? Yep, that was Gentleman Joe D.
They all, for the most part, respect each other....that type of intensity and physical play is just rare so its not the norm anymore
I have nothing but respect for Joe Dumars! He carried those championship teams when Isaiah was on one leg & injured most of his final seasons. Salute
MJ would have shot 20 free throws a game today.
IDK... One of the things that made MJ special was his physical gifts. Today he wouldn't be so special. Other playerS (plural) today would be able to stay in the air just as long as him and many of them aren't that good. And even Phil Jackson said Kobe worked harder. Also would he shoot more free-throws than James Harden? Do you think he would be able to put clamps on Kyree? Maybe. Today's game is more pure basketball. Not basketball mixed with football or wrestling. Just basketball.
It was called DEFENSE something that is way lacking in the league today and today everyone of these players are buddies there are no buddies when your on the court....its a war and the best brigade wins...PERIOD
@@mraims2plez why does MJ still have a lot of the best combine results on record to this day? Via vertical, speed, agility/quickness
David Reis you act like the refs aren’t calling ticking tack fouls. Can’t touch anyone if they’re just gonna blow the whistle
I love this dude!! Louisiana homegrown..