3 years of thinking I'm an INFJ even after learning cognitive functions but now this video makes me think I'm an INFP because I resonate with all of this
Have you considered also the correlation with enneagram? Usually infjs have the enneagram 4w5 but also infps; it's really common for infj 4w5 to mistype has infp because 4w5s are perceivers by nature.
The last portion of the video where you guys talked about inferior Fe, really resonated with me. The reality of being extremely hurt by the groups rejection of my personal identity, has been the bane of my existence.
Both my sons are infp & isfp.. omg as a entp..their Fi kills me with alot of hmm dunno what I feel on that or don't care on that, I love them sometimes I hear myself muttering selfish :(
I hear you! I'm INTP and I thank God that I value being the parent I wanted, that is, respecting a person for who they are. If I didn't value that, i wouldn't accept my fi ENFP daughter and her (I used to think stupid, but not anymore) feelings. In other words, if I never had kids, I'd be in a bad state as ti dom with Fi in very bottom spot.
@@greenlimabean yeah their fi can kill me. Yet I do appreciate it, for its helped me navigate my likes/dislikes and what I actually value subjectively,over time.
Do you think that this self-referencing you describe for the IxxPs can be mistaken for dominant Si when you hear the person relate back to themselves, whereas with dominant Si there might be less of a personal reasoning attached and more of an external world historical step-by-step timeline focus?
Ive been accused of having to have a reason for everything….example: that I have to have a reason to like an song or musican ( why cant you just like a song just because!) I love the part where you explained how Fe doms make decisions compared to IPs self referencing….As an onlooker it looks like a weak point for being easily manipulated by others….
@@iankinzel Oh, I see! Like I'm always thinking that I should memorize my cellphone number... even though I kinda identify myself with it, I don't know it. By that standard I guess I'm not an I**P. 😄
Towards the end of Bruce Springsteen's song "Jungleland" there's a verse that I think captures well the dilemma IPs can experience between an ability to observe and comprehend what is happening around them and a hesitancy when it comes to trying to either express or act on that understanding: "Outside the street's on fire/with a real death waltz/between what's flesh and what's fantasy/and the poets down here/don't write nothin' at all/They just stand back and let it all be."
i'm pretty sure im an intp but I was wondering if you could differentiate fi and inferior fe. Whenever I try to assert my own beliefs and morals I often find it uncomfortable, I feel a strong fi user would be highly confident in their moral and value judgements. I often long for a connection with others however I don't know how to go about doing so. I also have difficulty processing my own feelings especially negative ones so I often push them away or ignore them because they're so painful and complicated to understand. I identify way more with ti, I enjoy taking things apart and asking how they work.
Yea i think ur a ti user , for me as a fi user im always reflecting upon my emotions , and if i dont stick to my values sometimes i get harsh on myself ,, So yea i think ur more of a ti user than fi I know a ti user and u can see inf fe by how she just keeps the feelings away until it explodes which means basically tht she stores it away because she often doesnt know what shes feeling , and she often offends ppl but on accident which ofter happens to Ti doms ,, they can also care for stuff like how ppl view them and it might cause them to appear weird to other ppl in sense that ti users sometimes dont know how to act around others in social situations and may feeze doing so For Te inf.. its more like being afraid of not being able to go thro a signular life path because of poor planning , being afraid of failure, failure to act upon goals (tho i dont have much problem with this one) , it can also make a certain stubborness in infps and isfps So yea thts all
Don't push negative feelings away or ignore them, face them. The best perceivers (the most confident and most likeable) are in my opinion the ones who have faced their ugliness, their failures, their painful experiences and embrace them. Judgers on the other hand are looking outwardly, so they usually aren't aware of them or think about these things personally..
@@choco-ps7rk Thank you, I highly relate to your ti friend, I often ignore my feelings until they explode and I end up lashing out at others because of this. I have had a lot of past trauma so I thought that could be a reason of me not understanding my feelings but i've always had a complicated dynamic with my emotions. I wasn't treated very fairly or kindly by my peers because I was nervous to talk to any of them so they thought I was weird, this lead to me completely rejecting fe even though all I really want is to get closer to the ones I love and to form a connection with others but I don't know how to do this so I feel lonely and loveless. I think my rejection fe led to me testing fi, but ti never falls too far behind or I get ti over fi. I identify way more with ti though. I used to think that I had a feeling preference because I thought I was too sensitive to be an intp or a ti user in general. People used to make fun of me in elementary school for being too sensitive so I think I relied too much on the stereotype of intps being cold and unfeeling.
Great video Joyce! Good to catch up on your channel again. I enjoy the shorter 10 minute videos to check in. I gotta tell you that when I think about Fe too much I get like an existential panic attack sometimes. It's like a weird out of body experience. Take care, Brady
Hi Joyce, really love your content, I wonder if you ever have this before pls let me know if you do so, I thought of a content suggestion., A short video where it's discussing a certain cognitive function, For example, just Ni, and how it's like for it to be in the dominant, auxiliary, tertiary and then inferior, One cognitive functions at a video hehe A short one would be great enough
3 years of thinking I'm an INFJ even after learning cognitive functions but now this video makes me think I'm an INFP because I resonate with all of this
Have you considered also the correlation with enneagram? Usually infjs have the enneagram 4w5 but also infps; it's really common for infj 4w5 to mistype has infp because 4w5s are perceivers by nature.
The last portion of the video where you guys talked about inferior Fe, really resonated with me. The reality of being extremely hurt by the groups rejection of my personal identity, has been the bane of my existence.
I relate to this strongly as well!!!
You two work well together, like musicians
Both my sons are infp & isfp.. omg as a entp..their Fi kills me with alot of hmm dunno what I feel on that or don't care on that, I love them sometimes I hear myself muttering selfish :(
I hear you! I'm INTP and I thank God that I value being the parent I wanted, that is, respecting a person for who they are. If I didn't value that, i wouldn't accept my fi ENFP daughter and her (I used to think stupid, but not anymore) feelings. In other words, if I never had kids, I'd be in a bad state as ti dom with Fi in very bottom spot.
@@greenlimabean yeah their fi can kill me. Yet I do appreciate it, for its helped me navigate my likes/dislikes and what I actually value subjectively,over time.
Do you think that this self-referencing you describe for the IxxPs can be mistaken for dominant Si when you hear the person relate back to themselves, whereas with dominant Si there might be less of a personal reasoning attached and more of an external world historical step-by-step timeline focus?
Absolutely.
@@JoyceMeng22 Very cool.
3:35 is so true, I've experienced that a lot with myself and how I am with people
-isfp
Signs you like Joyce Meng.
3:35 for sure
🙂 I feel so loved!! Thanks, @Retrogamer71.
Ive been accused of having to have a reason for everything….example: that I have to have a reason to like an song or musican ( why cant you just like a song just because!) I love the part where you explained how Fe doms make decisions compared to IPs self referencing….As an onlooker it looks like a weak point for being easily manipulated by others….
sign #6: you help identify devices on the internet or a local network.
Why would that be true of Fi doms (INFPs or ISFPs?)
@@TheBookgeek7 because Internet Protocol is part of their personal identity
@@iankinzel Oh, I see! Like I'm always thinking that I should memorize my cellphone number... even though I kinda identify myself with it, I don't know it.
By that standard I guess I'm not an I**P.
😄
@@TheBookgeek7 It's okay, I mostly only see IP's in, like, IT departments
@@TheBookgeek7 also at this point I can't tell if you got the joke and you're just playing along haha
Great stuff! Spot on for ISTP.
I did not realize I had a strong sense of self until it was pointed out by someone else that I have to have a reason for everything
I relate to Ti dom a lot and yes Si has been very good to me.
Wow. This is a great job of explaining this topic. (INTP)
Towards the end of Bruce Springsteen's song "Jungleland" there's a verse that I think captures well the dilemma IPs can experience between an ability to observe and comprehend what is happening around them and a hesitancy when it comes to trying to either express or act on that understanding: "Outside the street's on fire/with a real death waltz/between what's flesh and what's fantasy/and the poets down here/don't write nothin' at all/They just stand back and let it all be."
Being easily hurt by the group and distancing myself….YES!!!!
JOYCE UR SOOO CUTE!!
Aww, thank you!!
Excellent video!!!! I related strongly to every point!!!! Im an Intp ….
i'm pretty sure im an intp but I was wondering if you could differentiate fi and inferior fe. Whenever I try to assert my own beliefs and morals I often find it uncomfortable, I feel a strong fi user would be highly confident in their moral and value judgements. I often long for a connection with others however I don't know how to go about doing so. I also have difficulty processing my own feelings especially negative ones so I often push them away or ignore them because they're so painful and complicated to understand. I identify way more with ti, I enjoy taking things apart and asking how they work.
Yea i think ur a ti user , for me as a fi user im always reflecting upon my emotions , and if i dont stick to my values sometimes i get harsh on myself ,,
So yea i think ur more of a ti user than fi
I know a ti user and u can see inf fe by how she just keeps the feelings away until it explodes which means basically tht she stores it away because she often doesnt know what shes feeling , and she often offends ppl but on accident which ofter happens to Ti doms ,, they can also care for stuff like how ppl view them and it might cause them to appear weird to other ppl in sense that ti users sometimes dont know how to act around others in social situations and may feeze doing so
For Te inf.. its more like being afraid of not being able to go thro a signular life path because of poor planning , being afraid of failure, failure to act upon goals (tho i dont have much problem with this one) , it can also make a certain stubborness in infps and isfps
So yea thts all
Don't push negative feelings away or ignore them, face them. The best perceivers (the most confident and most likeable) are in my opinion the ones who have faced their ugliness, their failures, their painful experiences and embrace them. Judgers on the other hand are looking outwardly, so they usually aren't aware of them or think about these things personally..
@@choco-ps7rk Thank you, I highly relate to your ti friend, I often ignore my feelings until they explode and I end up lashing out at others because of this. I have had a lot of past trauma so I thought that could be a reason of me not understanding my feelings but i've always had a complicated dynamic with my emotions. I wasn't treated very fairly or kindly by my peers because I was nervous to talk to any of them so they thought I was weird, this lead to me completely rejecting fe even though all I really want is to get closer to the ones I love and to form a connection with others but I don't know how to do this so I feel lonely and loveless. I think my rejection fe led to me testing fi, but ti never falls too far behind or I get ti over fi. I identify way more with ti though. I used to think that I had a feeling preference because I thought I was too sensitive to be an intp or a ti user in general. People used to make fun of me in elementary school for being too sensitive so I think I relied too much on the stereotype of intps being cold and unfeeling.
I’ve never been so sure that I’m an ISFP!👍
Thank you so much for this video!
You are so welcome!
Can you go over fi and ti more equally?
Great video Joyce! Good to catch up on your channel again. I enjoy the shorter 10 minute videos to check in. I gotta tell you that when I think about Fe too much I get like an existential panic attack sometimes. It's like a weird out of body experience. Take care, Brady
So on point!!!
Hi Joyce, really love your content,
I wonder if you ever have this before pls let me know if you do so, I thought of a content suggestion.,
A short video where it's discussing a certain cognitive function, For example, just Ni, and how it's like for it to be in the dominant, auxiliary, tertiary and then inferior,
One cognitive functions at a video hehe
A short one would be great enough
Another sign. You get offended when judging types call you selfish because you really aren't
Joyce, you forgot to mention crying in the shower as one of the signs
I don't know if any intp&istp men actually do it, I mean crying 😒 for what 🤔😂
I p in the shower
@@honor9lite1337 that's the best time bcuz no1 can tell your crying.
You're joking, I know, but everybody goes through tough emotional states
I know that Fi can appear cold on the outside to others. We don't show emotions to others that much.
Can you explain isfj vs infp?
I feel like I oscillate with my values similar to this without the rigidity more like jello.
IPs sure are interesting
Idk wtf I am..
7:32
Fi whiffs of resentment 😈
IPs don’t understand how they’re perceived
Push/pull between tribe and self