Caught On Video: LATAM Boeing 777-300 Severe Tail Strike Incident At Milan Malpensa
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- A LATAM Airlines Boeing 777-300ER suffered a significant tail strike incident at Milan’s largest airport on July 9th with a video of the incident showing the aircraft scraping the tail against the surface of the runway for a significant distance as it attempted to climb out of its departure airport.
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Just so everyone knows - It's the pilot's fault.
I'm the Latam boeing 777-300er and I can confirm what he is saying
@@raphaelgdn4398 Does your tail feel better now? 🥺
Maybe he got given wrong take off weight data?
Just saying
@@latinojl8039 Maybe.
@@latinojl8039or all those causes mentioned could’ve all added up and caused the tail end to become heavier like the National 747 where its cargo wasn’t secured properly and lost lift but at least this aircraft didn’t have the same end result and they were able to get airborne go into a holding pattern to dump fuel and return to the departure airport. Let’s wait and see what the investigation reveals
Someone's in trouble
Someone’s on unpaid leave lol
looks like my dog on the carpet.
this very scare, cat is sad
You need to try something different in doggo's diet.
That’ll buff right out
I thought that was the buff out 😅
Bro must have graduated from McDonald's training corp.
I caught it on Flightradar circling near MXP with squawk 7700
Samee at the time i had no idea wht happened
That's around 10 seconds! Unbelievable.
The clip is slowed down to 75%. Still a significant amount of time but not quite as long as it looks.
Less than that as the video was slowed down
I am pretty sure it is on the pilot. But I really don’t get the swing on the first officers? They are exactly qualified to fly the Aircraft, they’re just not Captains.
Perhaps incorrect weight clacs
That´s what i thought. Wrong speed calculations
Maybe the load was out of C of G limits, or possibly the wrong engine power settings. It will be interesting to see incident report.
It still comes down to operator error.
@@johncheresna true
They used to fly on the A340-500
Explains it lmao
Surprised the damage wasn't worse.
That's what the tail skid is for.
If the tail skid got ripped off, then it is…….
That’s some world-class drag-assin’.
a friend of mine got on that plane (not during the accident, before) how scary! 😱
Someone is out of work.
Remember to check that rear bulkhead.
prognosis: skill issue
Inconceivable.
I hope it doesn't crash like jal 123 which had a tail strike incident and it crashed few years later
That’s an incredible amount of flying it’s done in 12 years. It’s been in the air for almost 1/2 of its existence.
Weight & Balance issues are normally the tail strike culprit and more will happen
LATAM is a reference in treating customers badly! I wonder how tumultuous the customer service was in Malpensa 😡!
Rotated too early, perhaps
Perhaps? Obviously.
Noooooo fuckin shit really? DA! 🤤
I was a passenger on this flight, seat 2C. Yes I felt the strike, it was a loud bang as if we blew a tire, followed by intense vibrations which shook all the luggage in the overhead compartments . Seemed like we were going slower than normal and used almost all the runway with only the nose off the ground until finally we lifted off and the vibrations stopped. There was only one communication from the pilot (in Portuguese) telling us there was a problem and we would be dumping fuel and returning immediately. We landed safely about 90 mins later greeted by a couple dozen emergency vehicles, police and stunned looking ground crew. We didn’t receive any further communication from the flight crew except being counted a few times before exiting via air stairs. When we finally got on the bus I could see a nice hole in the underside of the tail. Fortunately everyone was calm throughout and we all walked away without any issues.
This shows how strong the 777 really is so did it split in half? Nope!
What is the price tag on this incident?
I’d like to hear a passengers point of view on this one.
Hey im noticing the 777x is doing pretty well in the FB air show of 2024, and Air New Zealand is my favorite airline. Can you talk about the strong benefits and why Air New Zealand should operate the 777x, specifically the -9?
Scary ! Was the skid the only casualty?
The tail skid actually which limits damage to the tail itself
Wow! That looked like they were deliberately try to scrape the tail for as long as possible, that is the most severe tail strike I've ever seen outside of deliberate tail strikes during flight testing
Now that’s going to leave a mark
Wrong calculation of t/o speeds for sure.
Ouch! It’s scary when a dog does that; horrific seeing an aircraft dragging its butt along the runway.
Yea I bet it's sitting on the ground for an aft pressure bulkhead inspection after that one. Geez that has to be the longest tail strike drag I've seen in a while.
I seem to recall that Hawkers equipped their Hunters with sacrificial wooden tail bumpers to reduce the damage caused by over-exuberant rotation!
Maybe the pilot forgot to convert LBS to KGS before takeoff weight calculations.
may be, since Brazil uses the metric system
Both Italy and Brazil use KGs, no LBs should’ve been involved
@@francescoceresani3343 but boeing uses LBS
@@weidergonga2997Not necessarily. At least on the 737, there’s an option to have the aircraft set up to display weight in kilograms rather than pounds at the customer’s preference
Surely they would’ve done it so many times before this wouldn’t be the case
Wonder what it sounded like inside
The sound would have been coming from the rear, so absolutely nothing.
I'm sure someone was screaming. @@phuketexplorer
Sheeeeeeexhhhxhxhhxh!!!
This shows how strong & robust these B777 jets are ❤❤❤
Yo, Pollyanna? Such optimism! 😁 Boosting those Boeing shares, eh? Nothing to see here; everything's fine? Hmm... 🤔 In the real world it doesn't matter if your glass is half-full or half-empty, if it's lying on the floor in pieces.
they're TANKS
@@unaits.9021 stronger
Yes. What are the goofy red hearts (3 of them) for? You feeling some sort of urges?
A similar incident happened in 2013 with a 777-28EER
The pilot flying will have scrambled to report a sudden ten second tail wind! 😄
This is the problem with putting test pilots on the line.
If it was related to cargo being unsecured, that would be an interesting investigation
I’ll bet every single penny I have that the pilot is ex-Aerosucre.
Anyone knows if the ferry back to Brazil was done on low altitude?
Nope, ferried at normal cruise altitude
@@emanueledp9083 well it's probably a good sign. Thanks!
aliens did it, trying to beam it up they miscalculated,and this is what happens
It could be so many things.
Even something as difficult to spot as having loaded the hold containers in the wrong order could be to blame.
Jeez, they must have been off at least a hundred ton on the TOW to initiate such a early rotation. Where was the plane flying ? It didn't light the pilot bulb to have such a low weight for such a long distance flight ? (I am assuming it was a loadsheet/FMS entry weight error)
Bro rotated too early
This tailstrike looks so precarious and horrifying which can undermine the aerodynamic performance of the aircraft. As shown, such strike sustained significant damages on the 777.
Nah, just the fact that the airport recently got "renamed" to a politician
You can now vacuum the APU off the runway
wow..i can't even call that a tailstrike...that looks like they were striping the runway.
It's simple. It's LATAM! That company has a terrible safety history before the merger with LAN. And it is keeping the "good" work after.
I assume they tried to rotate at too slow of a speed. However, I’ve flown with so many pilots who continue to pull back on rotation instead of waiting for the aircraft to fly off on its own. Pilots like that will always risk the chance of over rotation. I was always taught to pause once the take off angle is reached and let the airplane fly off the runway, before continuing to pitch up.
LATAM needs to up the estimated passenger weight numbers used for passengers on this flight - a week in Italy with all that good eating must be adding 10 to 15 additional pounds
Looks like the damage is aft of the rear pressure bulkhead....which makes the repair a lot easier and cheaper
Premature rotation caused by incorrect V1 calculations - he's gonna get fired!
As soon as they renamed it Silvio Berlusconi airport the curse began, another Delta B767 had a severe engine issue right after taking off and had to land back immediately without dumping fuel and, doing so, literally destroying its tyres. We shall see what the Berlusconi curse has in store for us...
Back to crop dusting , if lucky !
Think about the Emirates tail-strike incident in Melbourne involving an Airbus A340 in 2009 which was Emirates flight 407. Could those Latam 777 pilots have made similar mistakes as the Emirates A340 pilots scraping tails on the runway?
9 second tail drag!
More than my dog ever did😂
I still think they let a teenager at the yoke!
Looks like somebody rotated a wee bit early.
What is a Severe boeing 777?
Rotating way too soon, before sufficient ground speed?
Airspeed*
Remember what happened to the JAL flight!
Very well said…..everybody missed that…..the JAL 747…..
I have read some news this week saying it has just passed through repairs to be back to the skies again
@@_lcfioriniso did the JAL747…..
@@lookylook570, hope they did it right so we are not having a "JAL-like" disaster again
Put some wheels back there
Tut Tut Tut ..... I wonder who was flying it.
What does “tut” mean
A pilot probably
@@AirshipsAviation11 Tut was an old timey Egyptian Pharaoh who likely had nothing to do with this tailstrike.
Well, do we know where he dumped that fuel ? In the middle of the country side ?
Could be load shifting, too slow speed at rotation v1 , stab trim incorrect setting, windshear and or deliberate tailstrike by pilot...
damn which pilot would deliberately tailstrike a plane
Deliberate?? To what end?
"Deliberate tailstrike by pilot"....You are trying a bit too hard to come up with something. Way too hard.
I wonder what that's got to sound like for the people sitting in the rear cabin? And there had to be some good jolts as they hit the concrete joints. Maybe they wouldn't hear it up on the flight deck but anybody in the tail must have thought the world was coming to an end.
Reminding of JL123
Or China Airlines 611. Hopefully it gets repaired properly especially since we’ve come at least a little far since those accidents.
That was not a pilot working on that day it was a plane driver instead
Entering the Zero Fuel Weight as Take-off Weight in the FMS will do this. Or wrong trim setting, wrong Loadsheet or trimming during rotation. In any case, if you feel it not wanting to fly, stop rotating.
Pilot in love
V1… rotat… NO WAIT 🥶🛩️ 💥 😂
that's not a strike anymore. more like excavation. the pilot tried to dig into the runway
Really? “…Didn’t get above 5900 feet…”? It really erks me when youtubers of long standing still haven’t taken the time to research the basics of the subject matter they espouse.
Aircraft don’t just fly at any random altitudes, they fly at thousand foot intervals. So this MUG was flying at 6000 feet.
FlightRadar and similar platforms display the aircraft altitude reference to STD pressure (1013hpa). So I’m guessing that the MXP QNH was in the region of 1016/1017hpa, thereby making the FR display indicate 100’ low.
A weight shift (cargo pallet movement) so extreme as to cause the tail to come into contact with the ground prior to left off would have resulted in the aircraft’s nose rising uncontrollably once airborne until the aircraft stalled and crashed. Even the National B744 in Afghanistan got airborne without a tailstrike before losing control and impacting the ground.
To infer that the incident occurred simply because the FO was pilot flying, is an insult to well trained airline pilots of all ranks! It’s stupidity itself. The Captain would be expected to input his own directions and/or control inputs (formal takeover) if the FO was so hamfisted as to rotate an aircraft early.
This will definitely be a case of an erroneous weight input into the FMC: they will have accidentally entered data based on a significantly lighter weight than the aircraft actually weighed. As rotate and V2 speeds reduce with lower weights, when the PF began the rotate manoeuvre at the incorrect lower speed, all the aircraft was able to achieve was a pivot around the main gear. They were too slow for sufficient lift to be generated at that point in the takeoff roll.
Believe it or not, the aircraft will still continue to accelerate in that nose-high, tail-scraping attitude until wings finally achieve the lift necessary to allow the aircraft to ‘unstick’ from the runway.
TH-cam EK407 in Melbourne, Australia as well as VMU testing by aircraft manufacturers.
oopsie - early rotation from incorrect speed, weight calc or flap setting which happens... though interesting the pilot held it against the tail so long. Just forgot to light the JATO bottles.
Didn't JAL123s demise begin with a poorly repaired tail strike some 12,000 cycles earlier?
I suspect insecured cargo moving to the tail of the aircraft, thus causing the sharp pitch. Let's wait and see the result of the investigation.
😂...my instincts are pointing to a bankrupt airline in desperate need to repair.
somebody has a meeting with the chief pilot and HR
similar to jal 115.
pilots are getting fired
Even pilots from other airlines?
Must've been a newly-hired pilot that came from Aero Sucre.......
Seriously, I've seen Swift and Amazon drivers who could probably do a better job!
⚠️Latam of Brazil some as Azul Airlines suffer CREW FATIGUE issues due regulatory changes in 2018. Consequences now appear! 😢
I'm sure the aircraft just had an itchy bum.
Brazilian pilots are not as good as the chilean ones, since LAN and TAM merged the quality of the airline notoriously droped...
VMU
В Китае за такое сразу лицензии лишают
Incorrect FLEX setting? It’s been pretty hot lately
Could be had an itch in the rear. I see my dogs and cat do the same once in a while.
Thanks, one of the 3 preliminary results will tell the truth.
I wonder if the incoming plane behind it, aborted? 🤔
It couldn’t have been pilot error because of the amount of time it struck the ground
Combination and perhaps pre-take off Weight calculations. Hell, could be a ground staffer didn't lock in a container and it's rolled back. Similar to when a TU-104 stalled and crashed. Perhaps the Hydraulics and Fly-by-Wire prevented that happening. Anyway, that's just me waffling.
That’s exactly why it’s pilot error.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 i dont think pilots would be that undertrained. I could even notice that it would be a tailstrike if i was the pilot
Correct. It had to have been dumb as sh..t pilot. that's worse than pilot error.
@@Itstheo2023 turns out that it was 100% pilot error they input takeoff data that was incorrect for the aircrafts weight
All these keyboard pilots. The aircraft had an itch it couldn't scratch. That's what happened.
Sqwak : Butt Strike.
Missed flight, pax compensation, dump fuel, still paying crew, repair and re-cert aircraft, re-jig flight sked due to missing equipment - this is going to be an expense bum scratch on the carpet for the doggie.
Some of B777 Pilots are uhhh is no better than those skibidi brainrot gamers
Alcohol 🥴
All they had to do to fix the plane's butt was to wipe it with an alcohol swab?
Tail strike