The Illusion of Matter with special guest, Bernardo Kastrup

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  • Is everything just a figment of our imagination?
    Join renowned author Deepak Chopra and philosopher ‪@bernardokastrup‬ as they delve into the nature of reality, questioning materialism and exploring the power of consciousness. This eye-opening conversation will challenge your assumptions about the universe and leave you pondering the true nature of existence.
    Bernardo Kastrup's work has been leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism, the notion that reality is essentially mental. He has a Ph.D. in philosophy (ontology, philosophy of mind) and another Ph.D. in computer engineering (reconfigurable computing, artificial intelligence). As a scientist, Bernardo has worked for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) and the Philips Research Laboratories (where the 'Casimir Effect' of Quantum Field Theory was discovered). Formulated in detail in many academic papers and books, his ideas have been featured on 'Scientific American,' the 'Institute of Art and Ideas,' the 'Blog of the American Philosophical Association' and 'Big Think,' among others.
    www.bernardokastrup.com/
    www.scientificamerican.com/au...
    Key topics:
    🌀The limitations of materialism and why it fails to explain consciousness.
    🌀Scientific evidence supporting the primacy of consciousness.
    🌀Is the universe a product of mind?
    🌀Debating the views of other prominent scientists on reality.
    🌀Unveiling the true potential of your mind.
    #Materialism #Idealism #DeepakChopra #BernardoKastrup #Consciousness #reality #podcast #scienceandspirituality #mindbodyconnection
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    Deepak's new book, Digital Dharma, will release on September 17th and available now for pre-order at bit.ly/DeepakDigitalDharma

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  • @samrowbotham8914
    @samrowbotham8914 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Since asking Bernardo to appear on Evivta Ochell's [odcast about ten years ago Bernardo has gobe on to greater things and is now an International star. Long may he continue.

  • @maryammajdiyazdi2344
    @maryammajdiyazdi2344 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    What a conversion!!Two of my favorite people!! Thank you so much for dissecting it such a profound way .I follow both of you. Love you both🙏

  • @joemcfatter1170
    @joemcfatter1170 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can credit Bernardo for really opening my mind, several years ago, as I had been searching for the "link" between Buddha's "all is mind" to science. Today I believe there is behind all of "it" the universal consciousness (UC). We will never understand it, but I do believe that everything going on in the universe(s) is just this consciousness self-fulfilling its own experience engine. What we think, what we do, and every other sentient and non-sentient things exist to feed experience into the UC's engine. Our mathematics emerge from our own human interpretation of the physical, the physical arises from our senses "looking," but there are likely other "maths" and "views" - probably infinitely - that also provide interpretations for "the others." The greatest point I take away is that we have no reason to view the UC as a god to be worshipped. We can just rest knowing we are fully "at one" with the UC. Furthermore, such "hard questions" as the cosmological constant, et al, I think are just artifacts of our own math, driven by how we create the universe we observe. I feel sure there are other universes that have their own "constants" arising from the local minds of those universes. I continue to wonder, however, how other Earthly biological species observe, and what universes they see? Maybe one day we can figure out how to "mind meld" with our pets.

  • @marcussampaio9535
    @marcussampaio9535 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    East and west, beautifully get together 👏👏👏

  • @manjarichatterji9349
    @manjarichatterji9349 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This may be the single most important and clear explanation of "reality"

  • @clivejenkins4033
    @clivejenkins4033 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another masterpiece from Dr bernardo kastrup, superb 💯👌

  • @johnlucas3834
    @johnlucas3834 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thank you for this truly enlightening conversation with respect to Schopenhauer reminds me of Jesus’ comment at verse 3 of the Gospel of Thomas: “ If those who lead you say to you,’See the Kingdom is in the sky,’ then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, ‘It is in the sea,’ then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourself, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty.”

  • @protoform_
    @protoform_ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing. Two of my favorite people to listen to 🙌

  • @N0r8
    @N0r8 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    See Bernardo instant like

  • @maddywilcox9012
    @maddywilcox9012 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ohhh MMM GGG Bernardo and Deepak ... Can i believe my eyes... Ohhh bless uz both cant wait , How can this be anything but... YeeeHaaahhh...

  • @brendafosmire6519
    @brendafosmire6519 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very reachable discussion. Thank you

  • @katherinehahn6242
    @katherinehahn6242 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Beautiful!

  • @chrisallard1819
    @chrisallard1819 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic- many thanks

  • @mikeolsze6776
    @mikeolsze6776 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a species, we will not be facilitated as acknowledging such deep & more complex rationales until we faithfully endeavor & more so achieve what has been designated as being Wholistic systematizations. Having endeavored many years attempting to form an arrangement of experiences, informations, matters, energies, phenomena & technologies as potentiating a realized, wholistic systematization, one will eventually come to realize, that it's really not about physicality, mathematics or the ones & zeros. In my humble opinion, the reason that our species as a whole has not come to potentiate such a consciousness & awareness, is attributable to not enough of us have been allowed to devote a sufficient amount of time & resources, to potentiate & manifest, the in & of itself, that continually & continuously potentiates & sustains itself. Which is an endeavorment, as creating a (factitious) lifeform.

  • @abdulsahak5640
    @abdulsahak5640 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Consciousness is not matter therefore it can not be derivative of matter. consciousness is the ground of being

  • @MaartendeJager
    @MaartendeJager 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Consciousness over mind over matter

  • @bob-c702
    @bob-c702 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing ❤❤

  • @jamesritter4813
    @jamesritter4813 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been thinking alot about the ancient symbol of the flower of life. That symbol to me looks almost like a quantum particle. If the double slit experiment shows that it exsit in all postions until measured they explain it as a little fuzzy cloud of possibilities. Well take a good look at that symbol the flower of life. It looks like A fuzzy cloud or a bunch of round circles. Then when it's measured we're seeing 1 round spot of that symbol. I'm sorry if this sounds like random babble but I ask you to look into the flower of life and what physicist propose what a particle on the qauntum scale looks like

  • @shawns0762
    @shawns0762 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here is the explanation for dark matter/galaxy rotation curves - Wherever there is an astronomical quantity of mass the known, fundamental phenomenon of dilation (sometimes called gamma or y) will occur. Mass that is dilated is smeared through spacetime relative to an outside observer. It's the phenomenon behind the phrase "mass becomes infinite at the speed of light". Time dilation is just one aspect of dilation, it's not just time that gets dilated. A 2 axis graph illustrates the squared nature of the phenomenon, dilation increases at an exponential rate the closer you get to the speed of light.
    Dilation will occur wherever there is an astronomical quantity of mass because high mass means high momentum. This includes the centers of very high mass stars and the overwhelming majority of galaxy centers.
    It can be inferred mathematically that the mass at the center of our own galaxy must be dilated. This means that there is no valid XYZ coordinate we can attribute to it, you can't point your finger at something that is smeared through spacetime. More precisely, everywhere you point is equally valid. In other words that mass is all around us.
    Dilation does not occur in galaxies with low mass centers because they do not have enough mass to achieve relativistic velocities. It has recently been confirmed in 6 very low mass galaxies including NGC 1052-DF2 and DF4 to have no dark matter. In other words they have normal rotation rates. This also explains why all binary stars are normal rotation rates, not 3 times normal.

  • @MaartendeJager
    @MaartendeJager 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The electron is not a particle, but a unity of energy said its discoverer. Light cannot be a particle, it has to be an ether disturbance (Tesla N.).
    And here we still are, stuck with intellectuals who cant get over their conditioned minds.

  • @jassiemjohnson
    @jassiemjohnson 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It's difficult listening to this episode because the “S” pronunciation is too sharp. 🙃

    • @collabaleine6937
      @collabaleine6937 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Worth a little bit of electronic lisping to listen to the brilliant Bernado Kastrup repudiating Materialist metaphysics

    • @stephengee4182
      @stephengee4182 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe try adjusting the equalizer sound setting.

    • @clivejenkins4033
      @clivejenkins4033 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trivial matter, just adjust your device

    • @rosewater6778
      @rosewater6778 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Loved the podcast but glad you made that point coz I've noticed after I got my front two teeth rebuilt for aesthetics and the little gap between them for air to pass disappeared, I've been facing the same lisping problem and it's not a very happy situation 😅

    • @valuemastery
      @valuemastery 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Luckily I finished listening to the episode before I read your comment, so I didn't notice too early 😊

  • @sajid279
    @sajid279 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The end of the discussion just made chopra give up on his hallucination/siddhi of becoming someone other than himself

  • @fluffykitties9020
    @fluffykitties9020 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:48 What happened in 2018 ?

  • @Seekthetruth3000
    @Seekthetruth3000 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    According to Einstein, matter is energy vibrating at a low frequency.

    • @bradmodd7856
      @bradmodd7856 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Energy? Spirit, mind, forces...it isn't an illusion, it really happened

  • @healthyspineyoga5079
    @healthyspineyoga5079 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn't Socrates say, "know thy Self and you will know the Universe, you will know God

  • @IamPoob
    @IamPoob 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Other Solar systems are basically another universe.

  • @SeiroosFardipour-wf4bi
    @SeiroosFardipour-wf4bi 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sciene of today do not start by dualisme, but they have to express themseleves as so, sciences of today uses one unic data for start the √-1a complex number which could have tow values +1&-1,where -1could be the (0)&( +1)the other absolute probability,non of them is real out there ,probability varies in between,thank you for the emmison,more debates.🎉

  • @johnstarrett7754
    @johnstarrett7754 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Panpsychism does not require matter.

  • @clintnorton4322
    @clintnorton4322 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mr. Kastrup. I'm going to have to call your claim that there is a long term research project that shows evidence that nothing is "there" until you look at it. Where can I find this study?
    I've heard this "evidence" alluded to for a few years, but dismissed it because of the reputation of the claimants. Now you, with your reputation, refer to a specific project, so there must be something to look at.
    I suspect that the data can be interpreted numerous ways and I want to discern what it points to for myself. You can reply with the study here.
    I'm with you that materialism falls short in accurately modeling reality, but so do "idealism" and panpsychism. Especially the way you limit panpsychism. You say that because panpsychism is defined as a particle of matter that has consciousness then it's just another form of materialism. But, given the most widely used description of panpsychism,
    wouldn't it be just as valid to say that a particle of consciousness is also a particle of matter? That places consciousness as the arbitrary perspectival orientation. They're interchangeable.
    I suspect that the all-too-human tendency to simplify everything is where the different forms of reductionism come from. In order to grasp and work with complex ideas and systems we create mental constructs, with labels, of one idea that is a placeholder for the "bandwidth" of the complexity. And this is what I think has happened with nonduality. Some thousands of years ago, someone or a group of someones needed to intellectually grasp an anomalous experience and unconsciously oversimplified an errant interpretation of a complex experience. And that mentally constructed reduction has persisted and magnified until current times.
    If you have time, what are your thoughts on this?

    • @petersenoji
      @petersenoji 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Analytic Idealism in a Nutshell, his new book; Why materialism is Baloney, his older one; the experimentation is set out there. Includes a recent Nobel prize. Not that hard to find my friend.

  • @sajid279
    @sajid279 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You re able to experience your childhood now becs your material brain already has all the information about it...Its just that you did not put your attention to this part of the memory..
    Most of the part of information which you have lost is filled by the minds common sense...

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's not talking about that, he's talking about the witness consciousness that experienced his childhood is the same witness consciousness that's experiencing his current reality. The one continuous entity from his birth to his age now is that witness consciousness which experienced all this. Experience of now is the only reality we have, past and future are in minds, they are now unreal/ like a dream. But his memory and current reality are also witnessed by the underlying witness consciousness.

    • @sajid279
      @sajid279 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AdvaiticOneness1 So you want to say conscious is in time Or time is in consciousness...
      Any way consciousness can't exist without time... Because your awareness needs an object outside of it or inside it for the consciousness else it will not be aware about ownself or anything...
      That's why in deep sleep we re not aware about ourselves... Consciousness does not exist at that state and we re in a state of soul...soul is a non-existent state, it does not experience time or consciousness anything...

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sajid279 Time is actually an illusion of mind. Consciousness is the soul in non-dualism.

    • @sajid279
      @sajid279 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AdvaiticOneness1 Consciousness is awareness... Soul is not aware of anything... It is unaware of even itself.. Soul is non-existence ...
      Time is illusion of consciousness not mind... Mind is the knowledge like a song which is played in front of the consciousness....

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sajid279 sorry for the confusion, in advaita, Jiva is soul/ego, Atman is consciousness.

  • @AdrianSlo
    @AdrianSlo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Matter as the ontological primitive'' just seems stupid to me. No such thing as matter has ever been observed, so matter as fundamental reality is just a mistake. It's simply ignorance.

  • @patrickl6932
    @patrickl6932 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The interview should buy a proper microphone and learn how to speak

  • @rajeevgangal542
    @rajeevgangal542 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yuck one 🐍 🛢 salesman to...