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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- Did the Minoans believe in Zeus? Who was the Minoan Snake Goddess? In this episode, we dive deep into the mysteries of the Minoan religion and hypothesize possible origins of some of the famed gods of the Greek pantheon.
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So excited but don’t get mad, I’m betting you won’t be able to tell me much on this because it’s not possible to know.
Great video! Man, Minoan religious is so mysterious. I'm just fascinated with how griffins, bulls and cows are appear in a lot of art and are sacred to so many ancient cultures - Minoan, Egyptian, Hittite, Harappan and later Indian, Persian and I'm sure many others I can't think of off the top of my head. Thanks for posting this!
I wish someone could decipher the words of the Minoans :(
Zeus Zagraios was also worshipped. A linguistic theory claims that Zagros and Zeus both mean the same thing. That Zeus is actually Zagros under a different name. I didn't know about Potnia though. Nice little video. Thank you!
The posture of the snake goddess reminds me the symbol of Tanit (phoenecian and carthage later). Perhaps goddess of fertility
Minoans or Mycenae the both where groups of Canaanites from Arabia Africa and Levantine
The Hymm to Demeter from Eleusis from Classical times mentions her coming from Crete. Artemis also has myths set on Crete and Britomatis who is local to Crete seems 'Artemis like'. All of these suggest Minoan origin.
Just watched this and your video on What Language did they speak in Troy? Both great. Subbed. Regarding Minoan religion, what do I know, but it looked quite plausible to me that the versions of Zeus and other Greek gods shown from later periods may well represent the merging of Greek gods with other local Cretan deities that were thought to have similar characteristics/functions? We know that happened elsewhere in the Greek world later on.
Another source of Greek Mythology is the Hittite Empire, by way of the dispersion into the Levant, where it was transmitted to Greek traders, following the Bronze Age Collapse. Both the Mycenaean and Minoan cultures seemed to have cthonic roots - noting the shaft burials. These would seem to imply a different theogeny, possibly influenced in part by Egypt with who they traded. Oddly, they don't seem to have a sea god.
From where Minoans come from? Are they indoeuropeans? They worshipped Dyeus? From where the bulls and bullfighting come? These bulls were imported from the mainland from where the indoeuropean ancestors of minoans came from?
I'm surprised you didn't mentioned Demeter in relation to the Minoan Snake Goddess - from Wikipedia
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I think it's important to approach Minoan religion, though it is our connection to it from a distance by Greek mythology that allows us to still remember it faintly, "backwards", so to speak. For example, when we approach a god like Velchanos and then equate him with Zeus we are perhaps putting ourselves on the wrong foot already. It is reminiscent of the romanization of Gaul, and the compelled fusion of their gods; Sulis, god of the baths, gets merged with Minerva, god of wisdom, law, art, trade, etc. In the creation of "Sulis-Minerva" you do technically still remember the original god, but the product is now something different, a convenient fusion for the powers that be. I think that's the same case with a being like Velchanos, and I would renege on the idea that Velchanos had much to do with Zeus in his time. There isn't much evidence for him being a storm god, male deities often do not showcase in seals as being in positions of worldly authority like Zeus (I can think of only one seal that showcases what is likely to be a masculine entity, or just a king, lording over a landscape, otherwise they are usually all feminine in form), and he also does not originate in a culture that elevates patriarchal spiritual dominance. Where Zeus reigns supreme on a court of gods subservient to him, where El is chief among them in Canaan, where Odin and Dagda are considered all-father, Velchanos was likely something more like a divine prince--perhaps even something like a protagonist to the human subjects of this land. An entity more recognizable as flesh and blood than the incredibly abstract personage of his mother. It is why when we see entities like the 'snake goddess' (which I would say is something more like a 'snake priestess') it is important to highlight the symbolism rather than the literal. Snakes are associated with many symbols--eternity, change, life and death, they represent the uncanny, they slither out from holes in the ground as if birthed from the earth itself, they remind one of Potnia Theron and her dominion over animals.
Looking forward to watching this video!
Great Channel, faszinating Topic.
Amazing video! The Talos connection is the most interesting I think.
I am a little surprised that the Thaistos Disk did not get a mention, which some scholars regard as a hymn to a Minoan God/ Goddess.
I find it kind of interesting how when referring to linear A (being undeciphered) in TH-cam videos very often the tablet HT17 is shown - a tablet with more or less clear evidence that it represents cretan and non- cretan place names called iruja (not cretan?), duja (not cretan??), tanati (not cretan), dare (cretan) and tetu (not cretan???) and the name of the scribe (?), qeti.
Excellent! Thank you!
can not wait!