CAMERA OF THE YEAR?!? Testing the Panasonic S1 and S1R
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- Panasonic were gracious enough to invite me to the Austin Event to test the new S1 and S1R full-frame mirrorless cameras.
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I was extremely impressed with both of these bodies in addition to the amazing lenses that Panasonic has put together for this system. We've got an amazing 50mm f/1.4, a 24-105mm f/4 OIS and a 70-200mm f/4 OIS.
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In this video we'll talk about
• image quality
• low light performance
• autofocus
• shooting video
• Panasonic Dual IS image stabilization
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The Art of Photography loving the podcast Ted.
Great podcast!
Kudos for disclosing how little time you had with it. People need to understand that we (the press) tend to only have a few hours with the camera at these press events. It’s very difficult to fully review a camera under these conditions.
Miss you bro… yeah I agree, as does our mutual friend of course ;-) Trips are the absolute hardest to review on ironically.
@@theartofphotography Ted, great to see Stephen here as a visiting photography professional and nice to have the collegial atmosphere. Always a pleasure to hear your thoughts...
Oh Stephen and I know each other well… we come alive on rollercoasters for the record… just sayin
The Art of Photography Miss you too bud!
Third channel I’ve seen in the past week with a “camera of the year?” title. It’s friggin’ February. Cool your jets folks!!!!!
So true. Its ridiculous.
Camera of Q1 2019 rather.
This is the only camera that will film unlimited 4K without an external recorder in extreme low light. There is no other. The a7siii will be $3500 and not have unlimited recording.
@@bobhanuman65 Huh???
There are tons of photography TH-cam personalities but YOU SIR, in my opinion, ARE THE BEST!!!
Agreed!
Agreed indeed
Long-time subscriber here Ted. Just wanted to pop by and say I like the work you put into your channel and I like your personality :)!
If you would ever want a guest on your new podcast who could talk about 'street photography' or 'marketing in photography', I'd love to do it with you :)!
I'd love to see that. Especially he mentioned not long ago he would like to make some videos about street photography! Ps. I love your channel too. I'm most of the time in Mexico and feel awkward shooting strangers since it's not my culture and don't want to be provocative or arrogant in any way.
Listening to you encouraged me a lot to go out and talk to strangers instead of only doing candid and so far really like the experience. Thank you!
Always love it when there’s a new TH-cam video out from you👍🏻
Bought an S1 December 2023, like new. Two sigma lenses, 1.4/28 and 1.4/40. Images are beautiful to my eye. Screen and viewfinder still amazing. Don't need more for such a camera. I have a Hasselblad X1D for larger images. Build of the Panasonic is incredible, tough and high quality.
Glad you had a good experience with the cameras Ted! I also really like them, and feel like their idea of autofocus has a shot at being the real future.
We should do a podcast or something ;-)
I feel like I'm constantly reminding people why we have photography in the first place when they seem down that Panasonic are sticking to new ways to figure out how to make contrast detect only work. Photography as a medium wouldn't exist without someone stuck in a room trying the same process over and over again with different ingredients until they got a print.
@@theartofphotography Well don't say it like that. Now people are going to assume we aren't doing one already!
I actually didn't get at all what Panasonic did differently. AR in autofocus? eyeAF is the result of AI and Sony updates their bodies too.
I agree with you Ted! Panasonic is a company I trust can build the very best cameras on the market. If they put the same intelligence and passion into these cameras as they have into the GH5 and their whole M43 experience, these things will be nothing short of amazing! Thanks for your thoughts.
Super excited to take the S1R on mountaineering treks! No one does weatherproofing like Lumix. With the AA filter-free/ PDAF point-free sensor, dual card slots, superior weather-resistance, etc, in my opinion, this camera is set to be the best landscape photographer's tool on the market. My G9 keeps shooting at -40°C and I expect no less from the S1R. An extra kilo in the bag is no killing affair :)
I'm thinking of moving from Canon to either Panasonic or Sony A7RIV/SIII. Sony do not have rugged ergonomic, high resolution EVF, or focus bracketing yet.
I am really impressed by Micro 4/3, despite the amazing stuff being put out by Fuji, Sony, and Leica. And of course, the Panasonic S series. Actually the 2018 iPhones also have amazingly good cameras.
Took out my G85 snowshoeing into a cold sunset the other week. By the end, half the camera was frosted over from my breath. My scarf was frozen to my face, goggles had barely any visibility. Never once worried about my camera. Panasonic's weather sealing really builds trust.
I don't see how this would be a better option than a D850 for anything but video.
I think m43 will have its draw back sure, "There's no replacement for displacement", but like you said, the tech exponentially increases in cost as the senor size goes up. So for us m43 shooters, if we can take the senor size hit, and enjoy the compactness, we will also be the first to test new tech. Dual ISO, best IBS, and a myriad of other little features that come first in m43 vs FF. I think I speak for other M43 Fan Boys when I say. "I can work around the smaller senor, save some money, and have a much better user experience over FF cameras". In the end, if you control your light like a Pro, sensor size does not matter. Its only in situations you can't control your light does the FF shine.
FF produces noticeably better quality results than MFT, in any light. The higher resolution and better noise performance and dynamic range matter even at base ISO. MFT has its place if you absolutely need the smallest gear. But it's nowhere near FF in terms of quality.
@@youknowwho9247 Unless of course you want to do a handheld long exposure with the greatest depth of field in which case M43 cameras will destroy most of the FF opposition in that regard. Also they don't always have higher resolution for example 1DX has only 20mp
They had the S1R at the Photo Pro Expo near Cincinnati a few weeks ago. I picked it up and shot a few test shots and checked out how it felt in the hand. It really is a nice body and comfortable. It's certainly bigger than my Z7, but it's still comfortable and not unusually large. I've been a fan of Lumix for quite awhile and really loved my GH5 the most. Good luck to them.
Don’t ever talk bad about the Leica SL it is still the GOAT until the SL2 comes out.. and I’ll be buying S1 and SL2 later on this year 🔥🔥
Rocking it Ted!! Great shots and well said my friend! Been really enjoying the podcast too - sometimes I wish my commutes were a little longer just so I can keep listening 👍
Thanks Chris!!! By the way - you got to check out the new Panasonics yet? I think you'd really like them…
The Art of Photography - Haven’t yet, but I’d love to try one! Will definitely be getting in touch with the folks at Panasonic Canada when they have a loan unit in :)
I listen to about 20 photography vlogs, reviews and tips videos per week. You sir, are by far the most coherent and objective.... truly a pleasure to listen to.
I think pixel shift is great for architecture, real estate and product photography. These combined are a big sector of professional photographers. So I think it is a good selling feature to market. Most landscapes can benefit from it too.
Great camera review Ted. Above all, I like your objectivity.
That said it’s funny how everyone debates on which camera is the best. For my part I try to forget about my camera - which is easy to do because financially I can’t buy any of these newer models. Cameras may be out of date but they surely are not out of usage. As an example, I see you still use your Sony Nex 3 and your Panasonic GH5. And people are still using film cameras and even Holgas. Out of Date but not Out of Use.
Working with an older camera models may give you some limitations but it lets you focus on what’s more important. A camera is just a tool that lets you capture a moment. Just be sure that the moment you capture has “content”. That’s what most photographers should be striving for. I wonder how many people can tell which camera model was use when looking at an image. Nobody cares about that. Which would you prefer an image that has content and is slightly out of focus or a pristine image without content. Which would you choose?
Since cameras have become digital too many people have become obsessed with “deeper pixels” and getting pristine images. Sure enough, it can be handy but that alone does not necessarily make wonders. One needs to see where he stands with his work, not his camera.
Although I'm a Nikom guy, I absolutely adore my litle Lumix m43 bodies (with vintage takumar glass). I've just been waiting for a future proof 4k 60p video-included solution, so glad to hear this.
That 6k and pixel shift looks really useful too. Thanks for the vid!
The more I learn about the S1/S1R, the more I am intrigued...
Unless Sony or Canon can offer $2500 FF mirrorless camera with 5.76 million dot EVF, 2.1 million dot fully touch screen LCD, IBIS, decent eyeAF, rugged ergonomic, 4K 60, dual card slot. It's likely going to be my next camera with Sigma L glass.
@moo They just announced 11 L lenses for an unrelease camera in April. Give it some time
Jeezus. How would you have ever taken a decent image with a film SLR ...
Steve McKenzie I am still shooting with my old dslr. I haven't upgrade to mirrorless yet. Yes I have taken beautiful with Canon 6D. Jeezus, do always have a condescending attitude for people wanting features? Do having the latest gear mean people don't have talents or skills??
*Will Panasonic make one camera that works both Panasonic S1 & S1R for shooting photos and videos?*
The M4/3 system is not dated, imo. It's actually used by quite a few people for photo and video. And it's an absolutely sensor par excellence for video since it allows very high data rates and resolution without resulting in a camera with huge heat issues. Contrast based AF is fine for photo. And as of the last firmware release AF for video (GH5) is quite good, but is not getting the publicity it deserves.
Well said Trevor. We both met on PhotoJoseph. Could not agree more with you regarding the GH5. I use only manual focus anyway for video.
Yes it's interesting that while reviewers are praising the latest camera, the one they're most likely to be shooting the review on is a GH5.
My delight with the GX80 and E-M10 MkII has not diminished with my purchase and use of the full frame A7 MkIII
Contrast only af is not ok for stills photography. It's a terrible system.
@@youknowwho9247 Have you used it?
Thank you for the no BS review based on the circumstances! Love the thoughtfulness of your conclusions. Keep it up!
Great video! Enjoyed hanging out with you in Austin!
Hi Ted, have had both cameras in your hand, the Z6 and S1. Would you see those on the same level? Or which one you see ahead?
About the MFT sensor limitations, some say the same is true for FF sensors, as in, that due to the psychics of it all, they can't get all that much better. Future improvements will be more about AF, stacking, etc. So if a FF camera isn't excelling in one of those non-sensor areas, they're falling short to some extent. But that AI AF sounds like something for the future!
The thing is, whatever limitations for sensor tech there are, they'll hit MFT harder than full frame because full frame is four times the size, which is an advantage in terms of physics that will always remain.
The biggest problem with the high res mode is that unlike Sony or Hasselblad's H MS is that for product photography, it needs to be usable with flash and will need an adjustable lag between shots to allow the flash to recharge. Hopefully this will be addressed in a firmware update, but it shows that the Panasonic engineers are not talking to product shooters.
Thank you for explaining the AF technology, I needed this. Best Regards!
I've started getting tired of some of the limitations of my G85 (I end up in low light far too often), but I've grown to trust the camera immensely. I have NO fear taking it out for a few hours into windy, freezing sunsets.
I took her out snowshoeing a few weeks ago - by the end of the walk, my scarf was frozen solid over my face (my mustache froze into my scarf ¯\_(ツ)_/¯), my goggles were mostly frozen over (like 25% visibility), and all my reusable heat packs were cold (try keeping just one inside your jacket - the difference to your core temperature is a massive comfort improvement). My G85 was showing no signs of caring... except of course for the back of the camera being covered in frost from my breath condensing and freezing over.
When it comes to proper weather sealing, I doubt I could trust anybody more than Panasonic.
Really looking forward for a review of this camera with Leica M lenses.
No need to pick on the “bonus” features like 6K Photo and Pixel Shift. They are there almost for free. I mean people will buy these camera if you want them, with or without those less than ideal extra functionality, correct?
We need a native glass roadmap, especially bigboy supertelephoto lenses.
That'll take years, if the past is any indicator. I'd expect the holy trinity to be out by 2021 and Tele primes not before 2024.
Yes, I have a question. Great review by the way, it felt like it's not paid and I appreciate that since most of them on this camera seemed like they're either paid or people are in some way obligated to tell only good things. My question is which camera did you use to film yourself in this video? Also how did you feel that's the image quality from video was? Was it in any way a downgrade from stills? How about the dynamic range? And the last question is and I know you won't be probably able to answer it so I'm sorry for being a pain have you ever seen a footage from Panasonic varicam? How does this compare. I like to know who made the sensor and this is actually the best way to tell. Thanks for the review again
I have a question - Isn't it ridiculous to release these full pro expensive cameras with a couple of f/4 zoom lenses. And each of these lenses are like $1500(!!). Oh, and there is a third lens too. A $2300 50mm f/1.4... This is insane.
@Hoc Est Pseudonym Well, Nikon and Canon do offer workable alternatives. Their systems come with native adapters that do a great job. No immediate need for new expensive glass there.
Lovely new Camera! I‘m using GH5 for years, and the Z6 since Januar! Great Review ( or hands on)! About MFT sensor I have to say that I desagree. I cannot See a limitation there. if sensor size has technological limitations, then this limitation will apply to all sensors! including FF! It would then only be a matter of time! But I do not believe they have to get bigger and bigger! I think they will develop! I think it's fantastic that we have several alternatives and I believe everyone has their target audience.
I'm impatiently waiting for a full review of the S1. Curious to see what else there is to say about it.
The footage is beautiful. Really great.
Looks like it will be a great camera, I am not sure if you have tried the GH5s, but 6400 ISO is very usable with that M43 sensor. But of cores the resolution is not great.
Unfortunately after a few months I sold the S1. While i loved what it could to, the weight combined with the miss rate when shooting events outside was a deal breaker for me. I've gone back to Sony and will have one set of lenses and 2 bodies. Thanks to Mark Galer the menu system no longer bothers me as everything has pretty much been set up so I rarely have to access it.
Thanks Ted !
It’d be great if the lenses weren’t so damn expensive.
Would that pixel shift function work with macro photography?
Hey Ted! Love your channel and how forthcoming you truly are. Basic question but what are the fundamental differences between the S1 and S1r?
Good info. Nice pre-review (is that a word?).
Nothing but love for your channel and you Ted , I Love Panasonic ,
The bigger size compared to other of it's counterparts it is slightly more bulky but in saying that , if you can remember film cameras such as ones I've owned Nikon F 5 and then Minolta Maxxum 9 , Panasonic S1 series are small and light weight compared
I bet, the High Res (pixel shift) mode works for museum and artist where its needed when building high quality catalogue/portfolio.
Wow Ted..I'm gasping for air just listening to how much info/illustration /opinion you crammed into that 12 minutes,,,,(puff, puff),,,,First off,,before all else,,those were terrific images and clips,,Impressive color, sharpness and lack of noise. This could be a long term solution for Panasonic's long game as far as staying competitive,, although I am concerned that the lack of a first rate auto-focus will put off the stills shooters, a few I know who defected to Sony for just that reason. Serious video shooters can look forward with great anticipation based on these samples.. The OTHER elephant in the far corner of the room is that Sigma has just dropped a metric ton of glass at great prices on the L Mount market that could be another push into these cameras,,,
as expected, the best competitor to sony on the FF mirrorless market ATM turns out to be panasonic. canikon could take a lesson or two there...
I don't know why I'd ever choose this over Canon or Nikon. Personally, I like an af system that works. Therefore Panasonic won't do it for me.
Which inbody stabilisation system is more effective.Sony A7r M3 or Panasonic and what body is more reliable Thanks.Good Light!
Panasonic's GH5 is known for its dual IBIS.
I’m not clear on who Panny is targeting with these. Primarily stills? Or hybrid shooters? I’’m a hobbyist filmmaker and I’ve been MFT for years. If the next bodies are a bit smaller and cheaper maybe I’ll jump. But I really like the small bodies and lenses of MFT.
I can’t wait to see where the L mount cameras are in 3 to 5 years!
Dude I’m just waiting for Fuji to develop a continuous lock-on tracking function!! But this looks good
So can the camera of the year work with yesterday's ultimate portrait lens?
Unfortunately, incompatible...
@@unbroken1010 th-cam.com/video/U2mLNFmNOT8/w-d-xo.html
Wow, that makes me really wish to see Fuji XH2!
Probably buying this, mainly due to the L mount and i have leica L mount cameras. Cant Wait to possibly sell my Leicas for the panasonic
were the slow-mo shots 1080/120? stunningly sharp and clear! (That's coming from a Sony A7III user ;) )
4k 60p
S1ii with 33mp and A7RV screen/EVF when
I'm about to buy my new camera so I ask you that tried the Lumix S1. What do you suggest me? Sony a7 III or Lumix S1? I tell you right away that I am looking for a mirrorless that does video very well; so absolutely NO to Canon EOS R (because I believe that in photo mode now all the cameras make excellent photos). The last question: do you think Panasonic will release a firmware update that will improve autofocus consistently?
Thx
Based on past experience - no, the af problems on the Panasonic will not be fixed. They've promised reliably continuous af for their MFT cameras for years and never delivered. Sony or Nikon are way more reliable options for a full frame mirrorless.
Does the s1 keep the full range of stabilization with non panasonic s pro lenses?
Is it true this camera does stabilization in the lens while cameras like the a7iii does not? How does that effect real world performance?
Go to your next Photo store pic up a G85 with an 14-140 and turn the stabilization in the lens off. Especially in the tele area you will realize that the Ibis is not that effective when leaving wide angle. And the Pana Ibis is more effective then the one from Sony.
I think only reason for no hybrid af is to secure SL2 sales (same Mount, twice expensive).
So i have 2 questions .... who is making this sensor , and does it have a flippy screen ?
Sensor is claimed to be made by Panasonic. Thankfully, it has no flippy screen :)
How good is the eye AF feature?
Great camera indeed. Unfortunately for Panasonic people are waiting for A7s3.
Why must every magazine/review list a "New," product as the "It," of the year? To me, personally, the Nikon D5300 and D750, are still the perfect cameras to own. Then again, Whatever camera, a person is happy with is the winner. Do we have to come-out with products of the year simply to entice people to spend the money to get the "Latest," equipment? What-a-scam.
Buying one is not gonna make ya a better photographer. May get you more views on 500px or MeWe. I' notice too many taking images with so-called "Beginner," DSLRs, that take far better images than the so-called, self-proclaimed..."Professionals."
While I appreciate VERY much your amazing videos, what about your CO2 emission foot print? Is it worth thinking about it...? Still keep sharing your valuable experience.....
Is it be water resisting? You're my inspiration.
I think this is a great video, but I would like to offer a little bit of constructive criticism if possible. There was a lot of information there, with the voice-over seemingly continuing the entire video. Perhaps just a couple of seconds pause now and then (perhaps whilst showing the video footage) would still keep things short and to the point, but make it more easily digestible. That could just be my short attention span though ;)
This is my main issue with the channel also.
Does it have 1.5 crop for stills?
Is it better than the Z7?
Nice & Thanks :)
Didn't talk about price?
We’re you shooting at Barracuda?
Is this a mirrorless?
Heyoooo. Love your videos
wait till Sony a7siii
Ted ... burning questions about 3rd party lenses: The L-Mount would as a design patent be protected for 14 years if the alliance does not choose to license ? How do You perceive the willingness of the young alliance to allow for Tamron , Samyang or Zeiss ?
I don't know the licensing specifics other than Leica owns the mount and they, Panasonic/Sigma are developing for it. It might be a possibility some day but for now I believe its closed to others. I suppose someone could build a lens that would fit but probably is closed off to metering, AF etc…
@@theartofphotography Thanks!
@@fellowcitizen Thanks ! That show that at least manual third party lenses will be tolerated.
I love the options/improvements on the ISO ..that's by far one of the things I need; but totally let down on the auto focus. Again is pre-production. Lets keep an eye open.
Does the S1 have an AA (Anti-Aliasing) filter?
No. Since Gx80 Panasonic don't use them in their mirrorless.
You never answered your own question. Is it the Camera of the year? Curious viewers want to know...
would u guys pay 2400 for a camera for w/o phase AF?
paolo I would. The latest FW show C-AF Is pretty good. I judge a camera more than just the C-AF like EVF, ergonomic and other features. I shoot with a camera that has very very limited AF compared to having eyeAF
Are you a photographer turned TH-cam or visa-versus?
Dude is a legit photographer.
Camera of the year???
Must be a terrible year for camera bodies lol
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Ok, Panasonic flew you out and let you "test" the cameras. I am glad you said this upfront since I consider only a neutral review if gear is not provided by the brand - in this situation where you are flown in, it will be hard to say something seriously negative about the cameras. Nevertheless, I like your first impression review! But honestly, I like your videos better where you are not focusing on a brand and talk more about photography and creativity itself where gear doesn't matter much. Maybe you make a few more film based videos focusing on medium and large format?
One this to mention about the firmware updates to AF system. It won't do much good because as with GH5 and G9 its not the problem of detecting the subject, problem is for the sensor to communicate with the lens proparly and reliably. As long as its contrast detect system they are using, no amount of firmware update will make it reliable for video. Both GH5 and G9 has been given various updates but still no can do. They detect the eye for example and draw a box around it every time, but actually focusing on it, not so much. Contrast detect, its the bottle neck for Panasonic. And I really don't understand why they are still using it. Is it some kind of patent issue or are they that stubborn.
I thought it was because of the size limitations of 4/3 sensors that Panasonic couldn't do a proper implementation of dual pixels like Canon. But now, seeing as how they didn't bother incorporating dual pixels on the much larger full frame sensor of the S1, it makes me think you're right, and they're either hamstrung by some weird legal issue or that they're being stupid and idiotically stubborn about their crap CAF.
@@katniss4450 I don't really get why they are not using it either. Must be some politics involved. The sensor size really does not matter, I mean you have many smartphones using it on much smaller sensors and you have Sony using phase detection on their 1" sensors form the RX series which are all smaller than MFT. In fact, at this point, Panasonic seems to be the only company still stuck in contrast only land. [scratches head]
The camera of the year for rich people :( :( :(
rich and strong...
If you want my version of camera of the year try the X-H1 what a bargain with free grip it’s insanely good! 😎
It's a good camera, but the camera of the year will be the A7s iii.
It's hard to name it COTY without a product announcement or release date. It was rumored for a long time just like a7000.
@@Atemoya26 A7 III isn't that great at all you can't even hook up a Atomos and get 10 bit so it fails there hard. Also look at 9:02 how natural the panny looks the colors are gorgeous something you won't get with a A7. Panasonic is killing it.
I don't like Sony Color Science and ergonomics and little things like the fact that you have to buy an extra charger to charge your battery externaly. And the exposure und shutter dial are a joke. Looking through the Evf and have to use my left hand too to push the menue Button and so on. And the stabilization will be no match for Pana and the jpegs ooc cause i'm often to lazy to edit tons of raws 😂
DontknowHZ same. Sony eyeAF is great but not enough for me to overcome ergonomic, poor EVF, LCD screen and color. I rather deal with slightly worst eyeAF but that's me.
yeah i got a question another reviewer said S1 has 30 minute recording limit, 4k 60. that true? yikes. deal breaker.
@@fellowcitizen NO RECORD LIMIT GH5 can you read?
@@martysender5539 GH5 is trash 4/3 you moron lol. Why are you comparing record times between a full frame and tiny micro sensor? Compare 4k60 record times to other full frame mirrorless dummy.
11th
....not yet production camera?....not enough time to truly test?....why bother?..what's the hurry?
Panasonic strategy to delay prospective buyers of new Canon and Nikon full frame mirrorless?
Release date will be March 18th.
CAMERA OF THE YEAR?!?😨 10 months remain and many more new cameras..😍 i hope?😯
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY
Others YTrs. embellish subjective intangibles and belittle necessities such as AF.
2019 is Too much saturated of cameras , do we need these all this new tech
No. Most people do not need it. What most of us need is learning and experience.
No, but there is nothing wrong with more choices and competitions. It just a tool to get the results quicker - eyeAF, focus bracketing, better ISO. If you can do that with 5 years old camera, more power to you.
@@Atemoya26 For years, people were able to take great photos without eyeAF, focus bracketing or better ISO. Don't confuse equipment and features with talent and skill.
@@JimSamuel267 I completely agree it won't replace lighting, posing, composition, creativity, post processing, etc. Put a great tool in a hand of photographer who understand all that, you will get quicker and better results just like off camera lighting. Don't confuse having nice gears with no talent & skill photographers who doesn't understand the benefits and have the skills and talent to take full advantage of it.
Jim Samuel that’s right and a week ago I made a video about the fujifilm xt1 in 2019 , every 6 months new camera from every manufacturer flashes and this bad for who just bought the last camera
Rubbish auto focus carried over from the GH line? Why? Please don't say improvements will come in firmware , fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me 10 times ..... Why bother with a new camera system which has nothing over any of it's competition and lacks a full range of native OEM ( mega expensive lenses don't count for normal people ) and no third party lenses - yet? This camera continues to use an auto-focus system that can not match modern phase detection, costs more, is heavy and appears to have lost one of the best features of it smaller stable mate ( the flip screen ). I'd love to see some real competition for Sony and Fuji but again like Canon and Nikon before this is not it. It looks like a rush job designed to stem the flood of photographers to Sony.
Its a fucking camera! Show me how Panasonic AF is not good enough for PHOTO and I will eat a camera. By the way its faster than any of your hybrid systems ;)
For video 2 years ago the G9 proved how good video AF can be with contrast detect and DFD and it can also get better unlike phase which is dead tech.
GH5 AF is absolutely not rubbish. Anyone who says that is not shooting it.
Joe Marano if you are just looking for a stills camera then you have a massive choice including this one but this 2019 and in 2019 cameras in this price band are expected to be excellent stills and video cameras.
@@trevorpinnocky Odd, you won't take too much time to find endless reviews of it saying it hunts and it hunts because that's what contrast detect does - it hunts for the best contrast. You'll see this in videos using the GH5 autofocus - every now and then the frame will go out of focus and pull back into focus.
@@ourtvchannel Who says it won't be? Like I say the G9 AF is awesome so why will this not be? Besides anyone shooting for .oney should be using MF anyway and its 100% reliable and free!
“This is the best focussing Panasonic camera I have used to date” also in other news “this is the best blowup dart board I’ve ever used”. This is a lot of money to some people and Nobody is being completely honest about it. If autofocus is important to you then walk away and don’t get sucked into the hype people.
And Glass ??? Heavy and expensive...
Without a really fast reliable autofocus like canon dual pixel or equivalent then the S1 and S1R are just not an attractive buy for my purposes. They are veeery expensive too.
The AF is the dealbreaker for sure. Hard to justify spending 2500 on a camera that still hunts and pulses and ruins video with this kind of crap. Panasonic had a chance to put in phase detect pixels on this much larger sensor and they idiotically blew it by sticking to their tired DFD garbage.
@@katniss4450 Its not a deal breaker at all. It's not a vlogging camera so autofocus isn't that necessary. I use manual focus for just about everything. It's not for amateurs if that's the point you are making. Amateurs would struggle I think but if someone really knows what they are doing it's an awesome video camera. In addition, it's the best stills camera on the market.
@@pgtips4240 Can you share tips on how to manual focus without shaking up and screwing up the footage while video is being recorded? Manual focus usually involves manipulating your support hand to turn the focus ring which automatically causes significant camera shake while video is being recorded.
@@katniss4450 It quite easy actually, it's a skill that can be mastered with not much practice. Any micro movements can be completely smoothed out in post with a warp stabilizer or equivalent. Also what about doing a focus pull, you can't do this effectively with autofocus. My only bug bear with the d850 is its lack of focus peaking when recording 4k. Appart from that it's a very capable video tool.
1st again😂😂😂
On a roll… ;-)
You said that M4/3 has limitations in public? The M4/3 police are on the way.....also the Sony police just because...
Pas ergonomique, trop gros. Je reste sur le Sony A7III