kai, last week i bought my niece a little panasonic DMC-lm2 something something -- you should totally get one for the little gaffer. they are like $20 and with a little isopropyl alcohol you can send the scamp off with his first aspherical 16 megapixel Leica! lmao the pentaxians might lose it on me but i trained the niece on a broken pentax pc-35af first, after she could handle that she could handle the "Leica"... the shots are as you'd expect, both perfect and often hilarious. best $20 i ever spent in my life.
I don't know if this even reaches you or not. However, I want you to know I was utterly depressed with my life back in 2013. Then I got interested in photography by watching your videos. I started taking photos since 2014 when I bought a Canon 700D. However, apart from photographic techniques and all, I've learnt a lot from your videos about the purpose of life. Your sense of humor, hardworking mentality, immense networking, incredible presentation skills taught me how to be a better person. I also want you to know that I'm a graduate in Film & Television Studies and planning to make my first feature film. All these happened because of your videos which grew interest in my mind about photography, filmmaking, camera and of course a deeper idea about life. I wish you'll shine more in future like Bo Keh! Love from Bangladesh. ❤
I've never heard of this camera, I'm never gonna buy this camera, never gonna research it after this video. I just love Kai's videos and love learning about new gear so much.
Can I ask what you were using to film your piece to camera sat on the steps? The background trees were shimmering / going slightly in and out of focus in a wobbly manner...
Just bought the S1 after years on the Sonys (which I still love) and I agree with most of what you're saying. I shoot wedding and I use manual focus lenses on it, almost exclusively, and for that type of work, after a few shoots so far, it has been absolutely wonderful.
@@HerreDePerreThere's really no comparison between mirrorless and DSLR -- especially using manual focus lenses. I haven't used a DSLR in probably 8 years ever since using an EVF. A good EVF changes everything about how I shoot, so the traditional DSLRs weren't really on the table.
The S-series are so far ahead of any other FF mirrourless except for AF or specific niches that I find it stunning that there isn't more buzz about them.
@@fellowcitizen Might be because to 99% of people, reliable af is the most important feature on a camera. To me a system that can't focus is just dead in the water, no matter what else it does. Great features, great image quality, all useless if my shots aren't reliably in focus.
@@Seapatico DSLRs are still massively outselling mirrorless alternatives and there are good reasons. If one shoots fast moving action, especially at long range, there's simply no way around DSLRs. The only mirrorless option is the a9, and Sony glass costs an arm and a leg and only goes to 400mm so far. That's not good enough for a lot of work.
I love my MFT Panasonic cameras and their great menu system. I wanted to like the S1 but after getting my hands on a test copy I was truly disappointed. If they don't change over the focus system they are going to fail at full frame. Not enough people will pay that price when you can buy Sony ff much cheaper and get a way better focus system.
@@Princeton_James hi, i'm looking at possibly getting an S1. Could you expand on what lenses are terrible via the MC21? Vintage non-electrical or newer lenses? (i'd want to use both) Thanks!
@@RydCook Unfortunately I dont remember which lenses I tested. I know they were newer Sigma art lenses. I was surprised at how slow it was and missed focus. I didnt want to buy all new lenses so I ended up returning the S1. To bad, that was one of the nicest cameras I've ever used. The reviews for the MC21 fornthe most part are good. Not sure if mine was bad. Just had a terrible experience.
Went out heavily considering the s1. Tried it and walked out with the z6. New revamped firmware on may 16th, pro res raw video update for free, and no need to pay extra money to enjoy 4k 4.2.2 10bit raw with full pixel readout external today! S lenses are also nicer size for gimbal work and have very minimal to no focus breathing optimized for video. I hope Panasonic considers not charging for the 10bit vlog update and brings the fight.
Tom Ohle. Exactly the opposite for me. Initially bought the Z6 lured by Nikon's free FTZ adapter + trade-in promo and returned it after a week to buy the S1. The Z6 feels like a toy comparatively. A $2000 point and shoot. Got my S1 on April 4th, so got the free battery grip + free extra battery + free 3-year extended warranty Panasonic promo. It is the best full-frame mirrorless on the market and when the video update releases in July, it will do internally what no other mirrorless can do. Just a cursory look at videos shot on the S1 on youtube shows it has the best 4K video image quality of any full-frame on the market. Exited for what's to come!
@@en.6565 I can't say that I agree with you when you say that it 'feels like a toy'. Both are incredibly well built. The Nikon has less physical mass, but is no less well built. Least according to lens rentals and roger cigalas tear down, he reckons it's probably the best engineered mirrorless to date for build. Most issues (beside dual card slot critique) are software related and have been or are being addressed in the latest firmware. As for the video benefits - right now it's a very exciting time because Sony is getting some competition from lots of angles and it's super for the consumer! I'm hoping Nikons push into video forces Panasonic, Sony and others to copy as outside of a Sony Venice, I don't know of any other Full Frame camera in that price range that can output 12bit pro res raw files and 4k 4.2.2. I also don't know of any other system that effectively allows you to upload picture control profiles to camera and shoot in that profile directly. I wish you well with the Panasonic though, it's a great camera and I'm certainly glad to see some competition in the market place :)
I want to wonder how it would compare to the Leica SL... yes, the SL is twice the price, but the S1 (as well as the S1R) can mount the SL lenses directly. Now that would be an interesting comparison... Leica glass on the S1, Panasonic class on the SL... The mind boggles.
Contrast detection AF works great if your camera has a fast enough image processor. The reason it suffers on Canon and Nikon bodies is because they're running on a processor built for a calculator from the 90s.
Great video KAI! your son made my day! the S1 is a great camera for stills but compared to the a7iii? i porb would go sony but with software updates this camera can be way better in focus
Although superficially they are comparable, really the S1 is in a completely different class to the A7III. Unless you need high-end AF at the expense of everything else, or are deeply embedded in the E mount ecosystem. The S1 exceeds the A7III for: IBIS 5.5st+dual EVF 5.7m video (6K, 4K60, HLG, unlimited 4K30) handling (esp. noticeable with large lenses) shutter actuations (400,000) flash synch (1/320) and shutter-dampening sunlight (white pixels) darkness (red retains nightvision, illum. buttons) imaging without risk of banding manual focus (focus throw choices 30degrees-360degrees, PIP, clutch) colour, and matching footage with GH5/G9/G95/Leica special features (pre-capture, timelapse, postfocus etc) audio (XLR...) menu navigation + special buttons (white balance, ISO buttons, concave, convex) shared compatibilities with Foveon, Sigma, Leica weather-sealing and durability ...and potentially for lens options (native Sigma ART + new lines, MC-21 for Canon lenses etc, though Sigma has said that they may have some L mount exclusives, and the L mount has more grip and more design potential.)
Love this, Kai. Bokeh! :) I'm always inspired by how much thought and planning you put into you videos. You inspired me to up the content on my TH-cam channel. Thank you 👍
I'm not so confident about the update to solve AF problems. The AF problem showned in the video comes almost from the Lumix G7, no update from 2016 (just a 2 year update support) and still there when using face detection, focus get stuck on backround randomly with no refocus. A pain to see this problem again in 2019 on a new and very expensive camera, there is something wrong at top of that. Nothing is changed :/
Gawd reminds me of a baby picture my dad took. Baby me was on the ground infront of a window sill seating. Up high it was all bright rays above me blown out clipped white, while baby me was underneath the shadow of the window seating perfectly gently lit. Amazing lucky framing by my father. Gawd I need to find the photo album and scan it.
@moo Panasonic was basically sending out the signal that "don't switch to Sony or Fuji just yet, we are having the next big thing very soon". It's fraudulent to annouce something when you have nothing.
Panasonic announced development of 8K consumer product by 2020 a few years ago. With GH4 4k30p, and GH5 4k60p (6k Anamorphic) being part of the consumer steps to that. Its first commercial 8K camera AK-SHB800GJ 8K Multi-Purpose Camera due out next month.
Allan Sh need to get your facts right bro. They never said 8k mirrorless camera and they showcased a technology story, broadcast cameras and tv panels.
I wanted to like this camera, but the af is just unworkable. Imagine being stuck with it not focussing in a critical shooting situation. "Sorry, I couldn't get the exchange of the rings because your venue had backlighting" - just no.
Landscope 360 only an idiot would say this. In most situations the af is very good and if you know there are difficult circumstances you use manual af. You are clearly not a photographer but a troll
I think that most cameras would perform similarly when shooting a silhouetted person off a bright background. Understand that the camera is looking for eyes and cannot find them so it thinks there isn't a person there. Some Pro's use a small light to get focus in near darkness and then take the shot. The frame rate has a long way to go to compare to Sony but for most conventional cameras (DSLRs) it's fine. Though I'm not a Sony fan, it's hard to ignore the superb eye focus on their cameras. Nikon and Canon are you paying attention?
None of the competitors struggle like this in backlight, and traditional DSLRs certainly don't. It's a problem pretty much exclusive to lower end mirrorless cameras - and Panasonic's top end models, regrettably.
well done filming some interesting subject matter...Historic Bentley and the Vintage Bikes! Seem as those every mirrorless camera has issues. I do like the 4k 60p feature that's not available on my Sony! :(
You could try using AF lock. I find the Panasonics have a hard time AF with bright outdoor backgrounds with fast moving subjects, reducing aperture can help though.
How is low light a plus for this camera? According to most reviews it's not better than the alternatives in terms of noise performance, compared to the Sonys it seems to be worse actually. Plus contrast detect only af is likely to cause lots of trouble in low light situations. After all, Panasonic cameras are legendary for not focussing in dim conditions and there's no reason to assume their full frames will be different in that regard.
I never rely on most reviews because in the past when I purchased something based on a review and then actually used the camera it was a totally different story. I needed unlimited 4 k 30 in low light without an external recorder and this is the only camera that will do that. I’ve owned most of the Sony cameras and always ended up being frustrating on some level and sold them. I got fine results but just didn’t enjoy shooting with them. Yes autofocus is great. But my decisions are based on factors much more complex than autofocus. For me personally this is the best mirrorless out there for what I do. Studio portraits and events. If I want street photography I’ll use a Fuji. Except for outdoor events where I need a 70-200. I got that lens and it is without a doubt the best lens I’ve ever owned except maybe for a Leica summmilux. There is incentive for most reviews to get clicks to purchase gear. I also think there is a bit of group think going on with Sony cameras. Sure you can get good results with most things these days. But is it the right camera for what you do?
Landscope 360 you haven’t used it. That’s my point. Anyway autofocus only a very small factor for me. The camera excels in so many areas that I consider it the best out there at the moment for me.
@@bobhanuman65 I don't see any real advantages of this over the alternatives from Sony or Nikon, and the af is a huge downside. It's completely unusable in backlit scenarios and for tracking action.
S1 is great but it's also just not quite good enough and/or not quite specialized. Video performs a tiny bit short of what is probably necessary at the price point, while AF is somewhat hampered by DFD. I'm very much looking forward to a potential video version of the S series (like SH1 or something).
I own the 5D IV and A7R III, D700, A99, and micro 4/3 G9. I also now own the S1, which is in a class of its own. If you love photography, buy the S1 right now!
Fellow Citizen - the S1 is by far the best low light camera I've seen. It will eventually be my daily driver when Panasonic's glass gets to market. I'm not a fan of adapted glass. All native for me.
bigmaxcc - 5D4 is an awesome overall camera. It's not the best hybrid run and gun camera. It's best for stills and best for tripod video with it's legendary dual pixel AF and high bit rate.
@kai W, Your review gave me the impression that it is a half baked camera. 8 months later, and a vlog update, do you or anyone else here have any additional insights of thoughts?
High S-AF burst shoot is usefull for things that are moving fast but stay in the focus zone. ex: not flying bird, water drops, golf player, ... still relevant to mention it
Thanks Kai for great review :) I'm planing to upgrade my gear and thinking to but this camera or D850. I mainly photograph landscapes and kinds, sometimes in "action" :) What you think ? I you like to get more to the video too :) Thanks for your help
I would choose the D850 in a heartbeat. Reasons are: 1) Much cheaper. The bodies itself may be close in price, but for the Nikon you get much cheaper lenses, especially when you shop third party and used. Good condition used f/2.8 zooms come for under $1000 most of the time. The L-mount glass on the other hand is likely to be 2k and up. 2) Lens selection. There may be an L- mount alliance in the works, but for the foreseeable future you're likely to have limited options there. Nikons F- mount on the other hand has been around for ages, and there are tons of lens options for every shooting situation and budget. 3) Better focusing. This would actually be my number one reason. I personally couldn't stand using a system as unreliable as the Panasonics when much better options are available. The D850 focusses like a champ in any light, dead on every time. It also tracks action fantastically well, where the S1/R us just unusable (check DPReview for a test of that). To me personally, all the features in the world are useless when my shots aren't reliably in focus. 4) Faster shooting speed. The ability to shoot 10 fps in af-s seems like a useless gimmick to me. What you want fast fps for are moving subjects, in other words you'll be using continuous af. And while the Panasonics can't really track action anyway, they also slow down a lot in that type of shooting. Not to mention the buffer fills up fast. With a D850, you get 7fps, or 9fps with grip, of accurate, continuously tracking shooting and a deep buffer. Limitless if you opt for jpeg actually. 5) Better battery life. Pretty self explanatory. With the grip it's virtually unlimited. Now, there are reasons to choose mirrorless over the D850. The EVF and video features are undeniably advantages. But if I'd weigh mirrorless options, I'd go for the alternatives. Sony is ahead in tech, has the best low light and the largest selection of native lenses. Nikon and Canon both offer great usability and lots of lenses to use with great, native adapters. But most importantly, none of them have the issues in the af department that Panasonic has. I can't stress this enough. To me, reliable af is the single most important feature in a camera. If it doesn't get the shot in focus, everything else is meaningless. Out of focus shots are unusable shots. Therefore, a camera that can't reliably focus is a risk I'm not willing to take. Why would I, in a world with better options?
@@youknowwho9247- thanks for detailed opinion. I think I've picked wrong time to change my gear :) D850 It's old technology, but it was the last and best DSLR in my opinion. I have feeling I should go with mirrorless specially I'm planing shoot video. I think Sony or Z7 but they are very small compare to S1 I really enjoy built and size of Panasonic. I think Panasonic dictate new trends which other manufacturers will follow.
@@peterpeterson7993 At this point in time it's really Sony in the lead and everyone else trying to catch up to them. Panasonic is using a lot of outdated tech, especially when it comes to af.
Please HELP - Trying to get a Panasonic S1 - seller listed it as NTSC version - I live in the UK... Can you please help to discipher what this means. I thought NTSC was just a reference to video frame rate for the US... Or does it mean it cannot be used in the UK????
Everything seems normal, you're taking pictures of your friends on your S1 using human detection... until one day when you photograph your new friend Tarquin - and it doesn't select Tarquin. And that's the first you find out about the impending android revolution
The lens is sharp, but it doesn't mean it's good. It might be overly corrected (too many glass elements inside) which hurts its rendition of colors etc
BUM-KEH!
Kai W Cutest scene on Kai's channel ever 😍
Just don't ever change your joint channel with Lok to 'Bum-keh Bros' now, will you? 😜
:D omg your son is sooo happy saying BOKEH! im laughing sooo hard :DDD
When is young Bokeh Wong's review for those blue binoculars coming out? Will we see it on the BokeBros channel? ;)
kai, last week i bought my niece a little panasonic DMC-lm2 something something -- you should totally get one for the little gaffer. they are like $20 and with a little isopropyl alcohol you can send the scamp off with his first aspherical 16 megapixel Leica! lmao the pentaxians might lose it on me but i trained the niece on a broken pentax pc-35af first, after she could handle that she could handle the "Leica"... the shots are as you'd expect, both perfect and often hilarious. best $20 i ever spent in my life.
I don't know if this even reaches you or not. However, I want you to know I was utterly depressed with my life back in 2013. Then I got interested in photography by watching your videos. I started taking photos since 2014 when I bought a Canon 700D. However, apart from photographic techniques and all, I've learnt a lot from your videos about the purpose of life. Your sense of humor, hardworking mentality, immense networking, incredible presentation skills taught me how to be a better person. I also want you to know that I'm a graduate in Film & Television Studies and planning to make my first feature film. All these happened because of your videos which grew interest in my mind about photography, filmmaking, camera and of course a deeper idea about life. I wish you'll shine more in future like Bo Keh! Love from Bangladesh. ❤
Your kid saying bokeh made my day
It was so great aha
Gotta start em young lol
Waiting on Kai Jr's review on those binoculars...
6:17 is one of the best photos I've seen you take ever. Nice work!
yes yes I agree. chiaroscuro
Kai, it's beautiful how you were able to balance between doing an entertaining & informative review and family time
I've never heard of this camera, I'm never gonna buy this camera, never gonna research it after this video. I just love Kai's videos and love learning about new gear so much.
Did you turn off "Auto Tree Detection"?
bahahaha!
Love your videos dude, keep up the good work!
Can I ask what you were using to film your piece to camera sat on the steps? The background trees were shimmering / going slightly in and out of focus in a wobbly manner...
GH5 and it's ridiculous pulsing.
Best camera reviewer ever! Always fun to watch but highly informative 👌🏼🔥🤙🏼
Photo at 6:18 is the best i've seen clicked by you...Its so beautiful 🔥
Your kid first word must have been bokeh! 🤷♂️
i tought the same haha :D
Or "Camera"
To be honest though the contrast AF live tracking is pretty damn good...
Just bought the S1 after years on the Sonys (which I still love) and I agree with most of what you're saying. I shoot wedding and I use manual focus lenses on it, almost exclusively, and for that type of work, after a few shoots so far, it has been absolutely wonderful.
Sean Cook why did you choose for a s1 and not a canon 5d or 6d?
@@HerreDePerreThere's really no comparison between mirrorless and DSLR -- especially using manual focus lenses. I haven't used a DSLR in probably 8 years ever since using an EVF. A good EVF changes everything about how I shoot, so the traditional DSLRs weren't really on the table.
The S-series are so far ahead of any other FF mirrourless except for AF or specific niches that I find it stunning that there isn't more buzz about them.
@@fellowcitizen Might be because to 99% of people, reliable af is the most important feature on a camera. To me a system that can't focus is just dead in the water, no matter what else it does. Great features, great image quality, all useless if my shots aren't reliably in focus.
@@Seapatico DSLRs are still massively outselling mirrorless alternatives and there are good reasons. If one shoots fast moving action, especially at long range, there's simply no way around DSLRs. The only mirrorless option is the a9, and Sony glass costs an arm and a leg and only goes to 400mm so far. That's not good enough for a lot of work.
5:03 he needs new binocular. Because everything he saw is in Bokeh 😂
Loved the comparison with the legendary Nikon D700!
Kai you are the man, the legend of photography!
Little Wong saying BOKEH and laughing is my favorite thing this month
I'm completely fine keeping my g9. If you hunt, you can find them for less than $999 US open box. I picked up mine for $854 on amazon
Yeh you can get them for really good deals. I was gonna get one but i think I might keep my GH5 for both video and photo for now
@@MrHarryGray yes, I was about to pick up a gh5 for under $1200 shipped but then saw the deal for the g9.
I love my MFT Panasonic cameras and their great menu system. I wanted to like the S1 but after getting my hands on a test copy I was truly disappointed. If they don't change over the focus system they are going to fail at full frame. Not enough people will pay that price when you can buy Sony ff much cheaper and get a way better focus system.
Yup. Returned mine. Also love my G9. One of the beat cameras ever. I got the MC21 and adapted lenses are an absolute nightmare!
@@Princeton_James Yes, I am very disappointed with the S1. Maybe the next version will be better. I will keep my G9, G85, and GX85 until they die.
@@Princeton_James hi, i'm looking at possibly getting an S1. Could you expand on what lenses are terrible via the MC21? Vintage non-electrical or newer lenses? (i'd want to use both) Thanks!
@@RydCook Unfortunately I dont remember which lenses I tested. I know they were newer Sigma art lenses. I was surprised at how slow it was and missed focus. I didnt want to buy all new lenses so I ended up returning the S1. To bad, that was one of the nicest cameras I've ever used. The reviews for the MC21 fornthe most part are good. Not sure if mine was bad. Just had a terrible experience.
@@Princeton_James ok, thanks for the info! Appreciate it
Went out heavily considering the s1. Tried it and walked out with the z6. New revamped firmware on may 16th, pro res raw video update for free, and no need to pay extra money to enjoy 4k 4.2.2 10bit raw with full pixel readout external today! S lenses are also nicer size for gimbal work and have very minimal to no focus breathing optimized for video. I hope Panasonic considers not charging for the 10bit vlog update and brings the fight.
Tom Ohle. Exactly the opposite for me. Initially bought the Z6 lured by Nikon's free FTZ adapter + trade-in promo and returned it after a week to buy the S1. The Z6 feels like a toy comparatively. A $2000 point and shoot. Got my S1 on April 4th, so got the free battery grip + free extra battery + free 3-year extended warranty Panasonic promo. It is the best full-frame mirrorless on the market and when the video update releases in July, it will do internally what no other mirrorless can do. Just a cursory look at videos shot on the S1 on youtube shows it has the best 4K video image quality of any full-frame on the market. Exited for what's to come!
@@en.6565 I can't say that I agree with you when you say that it 'feels like a toy'. Both are incredibly well built. The Nikon has less physical mass, but is no less well built. Least according to lens rentals and roger cigalas tear down, he reckons it's probably the best engineered mirrorless to date for build. Most issues (beside dual card slot critique) are software related and have been or are being addressed in the latest firmware.
As for the video benefits - right now it's a very exciting time because Sony is getting some competition from lots of angles and it's super for the consumer!
I'm hoping Nikons push into video forces Panasonic, Sony and others to copy as outside of a Sony Venice, I don't know of any other Full Frame camera in that price range that can output 12bit pro res raw files and 4k 4.2.2. I also don't know of any other system that effectively allows you to upload picture control profiles to camera and shoot in that profile directly. I wish you well with the Panasonic though, it's a great camera and I'm certainly glad to see some competition in the market place :)
I want to wonder how it would compare to the Leica SL... yes, the SL is twice the price, but the S1 (as well as the S1R) can mount the SL lenses directly. Now that would be an interesting comparison... Leica glass on the S1, Panasonic class on the SL... The mind boggles.
I'm not even close of that league of prices but I'm happy with what I have to create my photos.
I love your videos.
Love your content, great work! Quite disparate from other boring reviews. Love from India.
Contrast detection AF works great if your camera has a fast enough image processor. The reason it suffers on Canon and Nikon bodies is because they're running on a processor built for a calculator from the 90s.
Great video KAI! your son made my day! the S1 is a great camera for stills but compared to the a7iii? i porb would go sony but with software updates this camera can be way better in focus
Although superficially they are comparable, really the S1 is in a completely different class to the A7III. Unless you need high-end AF at the expense of everything else, or are deeply embedded in the E mount ecosystem. The S1 exceeds the A7III for:
IBIS 5.5st+dual
EVF 5.7m
video (6K, 4K60, HLG, unlimited 4K30)
handling (esp. noticeable with large lenses)
shutter actuations (400,000)
flash synch (1/320) and shutter-dampening
sunlight (white pixels)
darkness (red retains nightvision, illum. buttons)
imaging without risk of banding
manual focus (focus throw choices 30degrees-360degrees, PIP, clutch)
colour, and matching footage with GH5/G9/G95/Leica
special features (pre-capture, timelapse, postfocus etc)
audio (XLR...)
menu navigation + special buttons (white balance, ISO buttons, concave, convex)
shared compatibilities with Foveon, Sigma, Leica
weather-sealing and durability
...and potentially for lens options (native Sigma ART + new lines, MC-21 for Canon lenses etc, though Sigma has said that they may have some L mount exclusives, and the L mount has more grip and more design potential.)
5:35 That was the most unsatisfying clip I've seen all day.
Love this, Kai. Bokeh! :) I'm always inspired by how much thought and planning you put into you videos. You inspired me to up the content on my TH-cam channel. Thank you 👍
A great video as always. Your stuff is fantastic. I am drooling over the S1R, but it just is simply too expencive for my budget.
the S1 is a steal used!
Dont worry Kai this is the only review I will be watching
I wish I would still get so excited about "bokeh!" haha
I'm not so confident about the update to solve AF problems. The AF problem showned in the video comes almost from the Lumix G7, no update from 2016 (just a 2 year update support) and still there when using face detection, focus get stuck on backround randomly with no refocus. A pain to see this problem again in 2019 on a new and very expensive camera, there is something wrong at top of that. Nothing is changed :/
6:18 when your papa is photographer :D
wonderful picture, and nice vid as always
thank you Kai !
Gawd reminds me of a baby picture my dad took. Baby me was on the ground infront of a window sill seating. Up high it was all bright rays above me blown out clipped white, while baby me was underneath the shadow of the window seating perfectly gently lit. Amazing lucky framing by my father. Gawd I need to find the photo album and scan it.
@@Neojhun love to see it bro !!!
You are the best man. Okay Z6,A7iii,S1. Go. Which would you buy for photo and video.
What I like in your tests is that you really go to the out world, not just do some tests in a room with color charts xD
yes! Been waiting for your video! Got my S1 in March and it's been amazing! Great video!
I love how funny you are. Little quips here and there is pretty awesome. I love your vids.
Last year Panasonic had 8K badges all over their Photokina booth.
Half years later, still no 8K mirrorless cam available.
@moo Panasonic was basically sending out the signal that "don't switch to Sony or Fuji just yet, we are having the next big thing very soon".
It's fraudulent to annouce something when you have nothing.
I could care less about 8k. Most people cannot tell the difference between 1080 and 4k. Now dynamic range...that's a different story.
Panasonic announced development of 8K consumer product by 2020 a few years ago. With GH4 4k30p, and GH5 4k60p (6k Anamorphic) being part of the consumer steps to that. Its first commercial 8K camera AK-SHB800GJ 8K Multi-Purpose Camera due out next month.
Allan Sh need to get your facts right bro. They never said 8k mirrorless camera and they showcased a technology story, broadcast cameras and tv panels.
Before I watch this. I hope you say its a good buy, because I have been looking at the L-alliance to replace my MFT system.
I wanted to like this camera, but the af is just unworkable. Imagine being stuck with it not focussing in a critical shooting situation. "Sorry, I couldn't get the exchange of the rings because your venue had backlighting" - just no.
Landscope 360 only an idiot would say this. In most situations the af is very good and if you know there are difficult circumstances you use manual af. You are clearly not a photographer but a troll
This is a change of camera for me Nikon for movies was a no go for me and the s1 video is brilliant.
The Z series cameras actually do fantastic in video mode, and they offer usable tracking af. I don't see how Panasonic would be the better option.
IM GLAD YOUR ON YOUR OWN....
BabyKai's BOKEH moment made my day.
Good to see brooklands museum
video being good straight out of camera is a big plus for me.
5:03 very nice bokeh!
I think that most cameras would perform similarly when shooting a silhouetted person off a bright background. Understand that the camera is looking for eyes and cannot find them so it thinks there isn't a person there. Some Pro's use a small light to get focus in near darkness and then take the shot. The frame rate has a long way to go to compare to Sony but for most conventional cameras (DSLRs) it's fine. Though I'm not a Sony fan, it's hard to ignore the superb eye focus on their cameras. Nikon and Canon are you paying attention?
None of the competitors struggle like this in backlight, and traditional DSLRs certainly don't. It's a problem pretty much exclusive to lower end mirrorless cameras - and Panasonic's top end models, regrettably.
camera? What camera? The kid is the star of this show!
well done filming some interesting subject matter...Historic Bentley and the Vintage Bikes! Seem as those every mirrorless camera has issues. I do like the 4k 60p feature that's not available on my Sony! :(
You could try using AF lock. I find the Panasonics have a hard time AF with bright outdoor backgrounds with fast moving subjects, reducing aperture can help though.
Great review!!!! Lots of love from Kenya
Why don’t you have 1 mill subs you are the best cos you back in the days drtv made me buy a canon 5dm3 and soon 1 day 5dm4
6:17 Wow that's a great shot!
Nice review. The only problem is the camera isnt small and compact any more. It's the size of a full DSLR! We have time traveled back 10 years!
I love the camera. It's heavy but other than that is everything I had hoped for. Low light is really impressive.
How is low light a plus for this camera? According to most reviews it's not better than the alternatives in terms of noise performance, compared to the Sonys it seems to be worse actually. Plus contrast detect only af is likely to cause lots of trouble in low light situations. After all, Panasonic cameras are legendary for not focussing in dim conditions and there's no reason to assume their full frames will be different in that regard.
I never rely on most reviews because in the past when I purchased something based on a review and then actually used the camera it was a totally different story.
I needed unlimited 4 k 30 in low light without an external recorder and this is the only camera that will do that.
I’ve owned most of the Sony cameras and always ended up being frustrating on some level and sold them. I got fine results but just didn’t enjoy shooting with them. Yes autofocus is great. But my decisions are based on factors much more complex than autofocus.
For me personally this is the best mirrorless out there for what I do. Studio portraits and events. If I want street photography I’ll use a Fuji. Except for outdoor events where I need a 70-200. I got that lens and it is without a doubt the best lens I’ve ever owned except maybe for a Leica summmilux.
There is incentive for most reviews to get clicks to purchase gear. I also think there is a bit of group think going on with Sony cameras.
Sure you can get good results with most things these days. But is it the right camera for what you do?
@@bobhanuman65 For myself, I can certainly say that a camera with af as unreliable as this is the wrong choice.
Landscope 360 you haven’t used it. That’s my point. Anyway autofocus only a very small factor for me. The camera excels in so many areas that I consider it the best out there at the moment for me.
@@bobhanuman65 I don't see any real advantages of this over the alternatives from Sony or Nikon, and the af is a huge downside. It's completely unusable in backlit scenarios and for tracking action.
This robutsness looks so good!
S1 is great but it's also just not quite good enough and/or not quite specialized. Video performs a tiny bit short of what is probably necessary at the price point, while AF is somewhat hampered by DFD. I'm very much looking forward to a potential video version of the S series (like SH1 or something).
I own the 5D IV and A7R III, D700, A99, and micro 4/3 G9. I also now own the S1, which is in a class of its own. If you love photography, buy the S1 right now!
Consider it done :)
How does it compare with the others? Will it be your primary camera? Are you adapting the Canon glass via MC-21?
Fellow Citizen - the S1 is by far the best low light camera I've seen. It will eventually be my daily driver when Panasonic's glass gets to market. I'm not a fan of adapted glass. All native for me.
Mercy Fields hey 5dm3 user here I was wondering is the 5dm4 worth getting I’m planning to buy in 4 years time from now
bigmaxcc - 5D4 is an awesome overall camera. It's not the best hybrid run and gun camera. It's best for stills and best for tripod video with it's legendary dual pixel AF and high bit rate.
That has to be the biggest 50mm lens ever made - crazy.
@kai W, Your review gave me the impression that it is a half baked camera. 8 months later, and a vlog update, do you or anyone else here have any additional insights of thoughts?
Good review Kai, but I think I will stick with my GH5.
So internally theres no V-log available when shooting 4K 50fps?
High S-AF burst shoot is usefull for things that are moving fast but stay in the focus zone. ex: not flying bird, water drops, golf player, ...
still relevant to mention it
Most moving subjects have at least some motion on the z axis. Using single shot af in those cases seems unnecessarily unreliable to me.
I like the high iso of this camera
Thanks Kai for great review :) I'm planing to upgrade my gear and thinking to but this camera or D850. I mainly photograph landscapes and kinds, sometimes in "action" :) What you think ? I you like to get more to the video too :) Thanks for your help
I would choose the D850 in a heartbeat. Reasons are:
1) Much cheaper. The bodies itself may be close in price, but for the Nikon you get much cheaper lenses, especially when you shop third party and used. Good condition used f/2.8 zooms come for under $1000 most of the time. The L-mount glass on the other hand is likely to be 2k and up.
2) Lens selection. There may be an L- mount alliance in the works, but for the foreseeable future you're likely to have limited options there. Nikons F- mount on the other hand has been around for ages, and there are tons of lens options for every shooting situation and budget.
3) Better focusing. This would actually be my number one reason. I personally couldn't stand using a system as unreliable as the Panasonics when much better options are available. The D850 focusses like a champ in any light, dead on every time. It also tracks action fantastically well, where the S1/R us just unusable (check DPReview for a test of that). To me personally, all the features in the world are useless when my shots aren't reliably in focus.
4) Faster shooting speed. The ability to shoot 10 fps in af-s seems like a useless gimmick to me. What you want fast fps for are moving subjects, in other words you'll be using continuous af. And while the Panasonics can't really track action anyway, they also slow down a lot in that type of shooting. Not to mention the buffer fills up fast. With a D850, you get 7fps, or 9fps with grip, of accurate, continuously tracking shooting and a deep buffer. Limitless if you opt for jpeg actually.
5) Better battery life. Pretty self explanatory. With the grip it's virtually unlimited.
Now, there are reasons to choose mirrorless over the D850. The EVF and video features are undeniably advantages. But if I'd weigh mirrorless options, I'd go for the alternatives. Sony is ahead in tech, has the best low light and the largest selection of native lenses. Nikon and Canon both offer great usability and lots of lenses to use with great, native adapters. But most importantly, none of them have the issues in the af department that Panasonic has. I can't stress this enough. To me, reliable af is the single most important feature in a camera. If it doesn't get the shot in focus, everything else is meaningless. Out of focus shots are unusable shots. Therefore, a camera that can't reliably focus is a risk I'm not willing to take. Why would I, in a world with better options?
@@youknowwho9247- thanks for detailed opinion. I think I've picked wrong time to change my gear :) D850 It's old technology, but it was the last and best DSLR in my opinion. I have feeling I should go with mirrorless specially I'm planing shoot video. I think Sony or Z7 but they are very small compare to S1 I really enjoy built and size of Panasonic. I think Panasonic dictate new trends which other manufacturers will follow.
@@peterpeterson7993 At this point in time it's really Sony in the lead and everyone else trying to catch up to them. Panasonic is using a lot of outdated tech, especially when it comes to af.
Hey your really funny man! Keep it up.
Can you do a video on macro photography?
I love his video and i am so inspired by him
Face box AF do you check the minimum lens Focusing distance.
What makes sense to me is; if you want to shoot a video then use a video camera and not a still camera. What's so hard about that?
Waiting for a pro camera Kai Jr vs cheap camera Kai challenge
00:30 too real Kai, too real 😭
Please HELP - Trying to get a Panasonic S1 - seller listed it as NTSC version - I live in the UK... Can you please help to discipher what this means.
I thought NTSC was just a reference to video frame rate for the US... Or does it mean it cannot be used in the UK????
Wait...kaibaby is walking already?. Where does the time go?
Your squarespace ad was left channel audio only.
6:18 your house is awesome 😯
8:45 Little detective investigator there :)
Baby Wong just made my day
ur intro audio is only on the left channel. nice vid btw :)
What did you do after the 'rain ' ? To remove the water
Finally Panasonic made something for Photography.
Everything seems normal, you're taking pictures of your friends on your S1 using human detection... until one day when you photograph your new friend Tarquin - and it doesn't select Tarquin. And that's the first you find out about the impending android revolution
I've been waiting for this lol
Didn't know you had a kid...your kid so cute
I Wish Concorde was still flying...
An amazing aircraft, would be amazing to be able to fly Concorde, just once.
Same...would've loved to have take a selfie of myself eating an in-flight meal on a supersonic flight using an ultrasonic lens.
Has Panasonic fixed this focusing issue via firmware yet?
1:15 Cause they wanted moto moto to like 'em
Any thoughts on canon sl2 might buy one...
The lens is sharp, but it doesn't mean it's good. It might be overly corrected (too many glass elements inside) which hurts its rendition of colors etc
If they drop the price by a grand and improve the focusing, I'd buy it.
Guess I'll have to go with the A7III
Great review.
BABY KAI IS THE CUTEST
When is the Concorde going to Fly again
Currently I do not change my GH5S for Panasonic S1, nor crazy
The video does look good.
It has a lock button but not a Kai button?
@ 7:50 colors are beautiful
What camera should I get for video?
Money must be good rockin’ the stone island!
I am a simple man.
I see Kai, I watch, I like.
Very helpful! Thanks