Perez did the same against Alonso Last year at Brazil, overtaking and defending is something that separates a Bottas and Perez level driver from a Verstappen or Hamilton.
Well what makes him a good driver then if he can't attack or defend? Is it because he can drive decently in clean air? If so that is the absolutel minimum a driver should be able to do. If they can't race while attacking or defending they're just bad drivers.
@@foxctocofxk8509 doesn't make him a great driver. Again if a driver is only good while in cleen air, he isn't a good driver. You need to be able to attack and defend, not just put laps in when you're on your own
@@MikkelL03He's extremely consistent and an amazing qualifier. While being a good qualifier may not seem like much, having two drivers so high up on race day would allow Mercedes to open up so many strategy options.
New viewers be like. What!?! Are those the same Bottas and Ricciardo who are currently driving for Kick Sauber and RB Racing? Yep, they had their chances
@@yelistener You can make a perfect comparison of a situation: Brazil 2019: Bottas VS Leclerc Sains VS Perez(or it was against another driver and maybe it's wrong) But what matters is: Sains made a perfect divebomb in T1 while being squeezed by his rival, while Bottas had a lot of space to dive on top of Leclerc but he always gave up and braked more. In Japan 2024 it was also the same thing, he took his foot off because Magnussen was waving on the track while others made beautiful overtakes in T1 at Suzuka braking late.
Yeah, bottas on hard slower tyres, ric on softs.. Whole video is wrong, Most of those were because of big tyre difference.. Yelisteiner you can do beter than this.. Yes, bottas is not fast driver, but better examples should be made...
@@bojanmilovanovic747 Tyre advantage doesn't matter. Yelistener is showing Bottas his poor defence moves. If the tyre advantgae is too big, Bot didn't needed to defend antways. He tried, but failed............ This video even could have been 60 minutes long........
@@Eric-rf1is You have no clue.. Yes, bottas is bad in defence and driving, but these examples are not applicable... In one of those you can see bottas tyre delaminating how old it is... All other are because of big tyre diference
Fastest lap were only possible because 1: he and Ham where that much ahead a free pistop was possible or 2. he was that far behind so Merc told him to snatch the point from Max.
ricciardo pretty much the opposite, his biggest weakness being qualifying pace. Great at race pace, great racecraft, attacks and puts a pretty good defense. if we look at stats, bottas has just 2 more wins than ricciardo despite being in a better car, when ricciardo has just 3 poles and bottas has 20
Absolutely terrifying. That W11 was so fast that even the tires couldn't handle it. Oh, also ,please don't judge me, but you should correct to "Britain though" , because what you've written means donut /bread 😂
@@Neferus98 Setup was as good as they could really get it. The car couldnt handle the load at Silverstone either week. They got lucky race 1 and in race 2 it was warmer and they had to compromise
@@TH2024WorldChamps Verstappen is just an example, I have never seen Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Leclerc get passed like this, none of them would allow him to take the inside so freely. Yes, verstappen would probably force a crash or yield situation, but even still, I don't think it would be any different with any of the other top 3/4 drivers on the grid. This is what better racecraft comes down to most of the time, and there definitely was a way to avoid the overtake.
@@monny1815 Daniel that day was overtaking absolutely everyone, he put a similar move on Vettel, Hamilton and Kimi I'm fairly certain. In case you haven't watched China 2018, Danny was going to win regardless, that was probably the best overtaking clinic in modern era F1. As the original commenter said, the only way he didn't win or get the overtake done was if he was crashed into (similar to Max in that same race, except he caused a crash with Vettel).
Bottas reminds me a lot of giancarlo fisischella as a driver. Great in qualifying, but a bit of a passive driver during the race rember japan 2005? Giancarlo defend the line/closed the door out of the final chicane when he didn’t need it to compromised his exit speed wich left him a sitting duck to kimi on the straight.
On the subject of Fisi and Kimi, it happened again in Spa 2009 where Fisi got pole but lost the lead to Kimi, though granted he was in a slower car at the time
@@AndrewTan-randomthat is very true, he did lose the lead to kimi because he was in a slower car than the ferrari, however force india ran without the kers system in 2009. Ferrari did run kers in 2009 so this aided kimi a little while trying to overtake giancarlo
Fisi wasn't like that before the Renault era when he drove for Jordan , Benetton and Sauber. At the time , I was negatively suprised in 2005 ,06 and 07.
I don't think Max takes him seriously.... back when Max was not at the top and regularly was racing in the top-6, I remember there was the post-race interview where all the overtakes he made were discussed, and when the interviewer said "then you overtook another car", Max replied "yeah, but that was Bottas!". Back then he regularly finished 2nd with Hamilton in P1 and Bottas in P3. even though the Mercedes clearly was the better car.
@@noisettehawk22 Adding that he costed McLaren the third place for the constructor championship, while Norris was fighting in the points with both Ferrari,Ricciardo barely defeated Gasly (with Ricciardo having a victory,while Gasly had more DNF than the Australian).
Hes smart about it! Makes videos covering the most recent race and once the audience from those videos are done he already has stuff like this to keep them here!
We don't actually know how old the tyres are in most of these clips. With Max exiting the pits on fresh mediums, Bottas would compromise his race, if he put up too much of a defense against Verstappen on a different strategy.
At that stage Bottas didn’t have very old tires since graining was a big issue for Mercedes that weekend. They stopped earlier than Max to not risk a tire failure, iirc. I could be wrong though
@@makoaki9071Bottas was guaranteed a podium anyway in the race. Bottas just has terrible racecraft 😂. He ended up finishing 3rd in that race anyway 🤣.
What's sad about that China 2018 move is that Bottas was dominating that race on pure pace before a safety car closed the gaps and gave Ricciardo fresher tires. That's what makes this video all the more annoying to watch: on his day, Bottas could beat 7x and 4x champions on pure pace, but he just doesn't have any resemblance of a killer instinct.
@@pizzalover1525 If you ask me , in all of the 4 cases here, the grip difference was so big that it is really questionnable to put a real defense given that you're gonna get passed any way one or another and looses precious seconds over others behind.
Ricciardo had a huge tyre advantage so even if bottas had close the door there, daniel would have passed him with a much better traction 100m later ( like hamilton with norris at COTA )
2021 France is a good example for Bottas’ poor defence, but I think Verstappen’s overtake on bottas is a better showcase than Perez’s overtake. They were heading in to the same corner, but Bottas defended when verstappen was even further back, and he totally outbraked himself. This meant verstappen easily got past on exit, they didn’t even go side by side through the fast right hander. But he did something pretty similar with Perez like you showed, not as severe, which is arguably even worse because he didn’t learn his lesson at all.
A thing to keep in mind is the tyre degradation at Paul Ricard,Mercedes went for a one stop strategy that backfired later in the race,while Red Bull went for a mixed strategy,1 stop for Perez (with the first stint being incredible long) and a 2 stop for Max (taking the advantage that Perez barely lost track positions with his stint). The other team that misjudged the tyre degradation that weekend was Ferrari, since both Sainz and Leclerc ended out of the points.
@@DerpSherman very true, both red bull’s had a tyre advantage, but I still think Bottas’ extreme inside defence from the large distance back both verstappen and perez were, was very unnecessary.
@@kaitoanderson2845 True,that move looked more improvised than a real defence,2021 wasn't his best season at Mercedes neither (and the first half of the season was one of his weakest).
Well to be fair China 2018 Daniel did get fresh tyres under a safety car which caught both Mercedes out and my god did you see his left rear 2020 Silverstone? Other than that yeah I agree.
I think in Ricciardo's move Bottas moved in the middle and then tried to close completely but it was so late and under braking so probably both would crash. So, he left that space. The rest is history :)
2021 Russian GP with Max is also a very good one. Both started at the back and he could have holded Max back for a long time if not forever, but he let the door open and Max didn't need a second invite and made it look like a Sauber got passed by Red Bull.
@Eric-rf1is he wasn't afraid of max. what he had a problem with was the unreliable car that gave him 8 dnfs in a single season and every race of his in 2018 had car issues. add to that red bull not holding max accountable for Baku 2018 crash, and clearly showing preference
his renault era was great especially 2020. 2019 didnt go like he wanted and mclaren had already poached him by the start of 2020. simply didn't have faith in his stint there but ended up making 5th in championship in a renault
@@huh4206 The unreliable car is total BS. The only thing that was unreliable was the Renault engine and RIC went to Renault. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Max was not to blame for the Baku crash. RIC lost downforce behind Max, same as VET behing Max at Silvestone. One difference: VET appologised.
Bottas defends himself poorly, exactly as Fisichella defended himself poorly... See him defending himself from the void, prematurely, in Suzuka 2005...
hes the polar opposite of perez: insanely fast, but way too passive in defending and attacking. he just doesnt know how to do it right. perez on the other hand is slow during qualifying and over one lap, but his race management, defending, attacking, divebombs are all much better than valtteri's.
Perez has been going beast mode this season. his balls-to-the-wall cornering has broken speed records in some turns, and he was just a hair shy of Max in Suzuka quali. I'll admit that traditionally Checo fits your description, but if he carries on like this, there won't be much more talk of him being replaceable.
I remember being so excited watching this race live, knowing that Danny was coming through the field on those brand new tires. Three races in and Merc had yet to win one!
Formula 1 2018 Abu Dhabi max vs bottas was one of the great overtakes..and never got any real credit for it. Bottas screws max his magnificent overtake up a bit with his bad racecraft there too, if he stays on his line it wouldve been clean 👌🏻
Worst race craft from a driver in a dominant team i've seen and this is why i never rated him. Terrible defensive skills, atrocious tire management on some tracks, incredibly passive in dirty air,... One lap pace means nothing, even in an era where track position is everything, many drivers can be quick over one lap, over his 10 wins with Mercedes, many are purely due to circumstances. Barrichello > Bottas and Pérez, everyday (watch races like Germany 2000 or Britain 2003).
if we want to see poor defending, Bottas in 2021 in Baku was woeful. Youd think the car had a problem and was limping back to the pits seeing how he was getting passed by everyone after the safety car restart.
In the first scene bottas didn't close the door early enough. He reacted to Ricciardo, so I guess he was not in the position to close the door completly. But yes, his racecraft is really, really poor.
@@Eric-rf1is don't get me wrong I love bottas better than Russell in the merc. It's a shame that he has to change teams to sport a mullet. 😂 He definitely deserves a top team seat. But that ain't happening
@@slipstream01 He does not deserve a top team seat lol He's only really fast over 1 lap and can't defend to save his life and he's even worse at passing.
At Silverstone 2020, Bottas defending the position was kinda useless. If you look at the rear facing camera the tyre on the right appears to be massively graining, whilst Max was on fresh tyres. Still, it is a testament to the W11's speed that he was still able to hang on round the outside.
This reached its peak in 2021 when he basically let Verstappen through multiple times without putting up a fight, while Perez was defending against Hamilton at every opportunity.
One of his worst signature defensive moves is defending “fresh air”. And there’s no better example of Bottas doing this than in Abu Dhabi 2018 on lap 38 against Max.
Looking at the rear tires on the Bottas / Verstappen example, he had to go back to the outside to maintain the faster line on those worn-out tires. VER could send it inside of Brooklands on fresh mediums. But overall, Bottas was always passive at Mercedes.
What was Bottas supposed to do at Silverstone? He's on worse tires and its two turns where the inside becomes the outside and vice versa. Unless he's flawless through the section, he's getting run off the track by Max and losing tons of time.
Bottas races like his just going for a Sunday drive happy to be amongst the action and that's about it. Need someone else to replace him who is willing to push the car.
Look there’s a reason Hamilton was fighting for Bottas instead of George. He was the perfect teammate. Fast enough in qualifying to get the top row and help defend for Hamilton. Not fast enough to pose a problem come race day. Passive enough to follow team orders.
Why dont you have a look at more recent clips of his wheel to wheel racing? His start at zandvoort 2023 was probably the best start of the season but i never saw anyone talk about it. Why do you show clips that are so old but for other drivers you always show newer clips. What about his drive in Monza 2021? What about Brazil 2022? Why always show the bad stuff and make it look like he cant do anything, I genuinely have some bias against him taking some random clips from a long time ago. You can even look at last race and you would see that he had some great wheel to wheel racing. I would definently recommend having a look at some of his other moments , if you post so much negativity about him all the time, because it hat gotten to the point where you just show cherry picked all the clips of him not defending well.
Maybe context would have helped newer fans. Daniel on fresh set of tyres while Bottas on aging old tyres. ( Daniel had the time to make an extra free stop after safety cark
It's not like he doesn't want them to get in. He just plays a bit hard to get, but gives in right after he feels them insisting. My theory is that he actually wants them to get in. Pause
He probably tried to send an oponent to the inside and have a better exit from the racing line. However it didn't work because he did it with an afwul timing
Sometimes not even having the fastest car by a mile can hide your lack of skill. Not enough credit is given to Mercedes engineers when Russell took the 2020 Mercedes ONCE and immediately stomped the rest of the field. And they want to sell us it was all the driver for 7 years.
are you suggesting only bottas has trouble closing the door? lmao almost every max vs. lewis overtake happened because one of them didn't close the door fully prime example: silverstone 2021
To add to Masi's contribution to the end AD21, Lewis's trip to the beach in Imola, and the Brake Magic Extravaganza, please welcome Bottas' complete lack of a killer instinct as another reason Lewis didn't win WDC in 2021 after practically being handed it by RBR misfortunes across the season.
Lewis messing up his qualy in Monaco (and Mercedes taking out Bottas with that terrible pitstop),the poor pitstop strategy at both France and Abu Dhabi,the amount of time Lewis lost with Tsunoda and Perez in the Turkish GP, the drama at Monza and Jeddah,Perez killing a possible free pitstop at Abu Dhabi with his defence,there is a few more factors for what happened in 2021.
@@DerpSherman Agreed. Forgot about all the other own goals Merc and Lewis completed during that season. Should've been a barely comfortable cruise to another championship, really.
@@shoryuag I mean,side by side,Red Bull was more consistent all season long (aside of Perez that was more inconsistent than Bottas),and all summed up by the end of the season,Hamilton had some great runs at the begining and the end of the season,while Max got the mid season completely dominated,both gained nothing from Spa with the half of points given (only Russel got something from that with his P2 qualy),and Alonso took a good chunk of points from Lewis hands with his defence at Hungary(that could have been an easy win for Lewis in this aspect,since neither the Alpines,Vettel or Sainz had something to fight back at that point in the race),in the Turkish GP Bottas dissapeared in the horizon at the front and Lewis lost a good amount of time (and tyres) early race with Tsunoda and later with Perez causing another (probably unplaned) pitstop (i can remember Lewis not being too happy with it),the rain really helped Lewis in Russia but Max got that P2 out of any calculation (both Mercedes and Red Bull did good calls on them on that race,but their teammates were not so lucky).
He’s racecraft is trash when it’s comes to pulling out defensive stops and overtakes. Always remember in 2021 he’ll be asked to defend against Max or someone else, next corner he’s in their mirrors. Russia, Abu Dhabi, Italy and many more.
yeah it was lost battle daniel had newer tyres also kimi at the end finished very close to bottas so any more defending from bottas would have cost p2 maybe
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bottas is so passive its actually sad
used to being passed by Hamilton xD
Thats how you win 5 team championships. But this one was on ricciardo, mythic divebomb
looks like perez
Does it have something to do with being Finnish? I know Kimi was super passive.
Yeah and it’s manifested through many areas of his career, not only being passed
His last move is a little reminiscent of Fisichella’s defensive moves into the final corner at Suzuka in the dying laps of the 2005 GP there
Perez did the same against Alonso Last year at Brazil, overtaking and defending is something that separates a Bottas and Perez level driver from a Verstappen or Hamilton.
Bottas is a good driver, but I think he's a little weak in battle: both attack and defense.
Well what makes him a good driver then if he can't attack or defend? Is it because he can drive decently in clean air? If so that is the absolutel minimum a driver should be able to do. If they can't race while attacking or defending they're just bad drivers.
@@MikkelL03He beat lewis occasionally in quali
@@foxctocofxk8509 doesn't make him a great driver. Again if a driver is only good while in cleen air, he isn't a good driver. You need to be able to attack and defend, not just put laps in when you're on your own
@@MikkelL03good driver, bad racer
@@MikkelL03He's extremely consistent and an amazing qualifier.
While being a good qualifier may not seem like much, having two drivers so high up on race day would allow Mercedes to open up so many strategy options.
Makes me sad to see that move from Danny Ric. He was a beast in that RedBull period.
Yeah, I miss Daniel on Red Bull car. 🇦🇺🇦🇹
New viewers be like. What!?! Are those the same Bottas and Ricciardo who are currently driving for Kick Sauber and RB Racing? Yep, they had their chances
@@BakkerJoopNL From Mercedes and Red Bull to *KICK* Sauber and Racing Bulls..... Time is flying too fast + what a "downgrade".
Hey man, Maybe we just underestimate Yuki and Lando too much.
@@BakkerJoopNL yes i m new f1 fan and i feel ric and bot are avg driver
You could probably make a video trice as long on how passive he is during overtaking
That's maybe for another video.
@@yelistener You can make a perfect comparison of a situation:
Brazil 2019:
Bottas VS Leclerc
Sains VS Perez(or it was against another driver and maybe it's wrong)
But what matters is: Sains made a perfect divebomb in T1 while being squeezed by his rival, while Bottas had a lot of space to dive on top of Leclerc but he always gave up and braked more.
In Japan 2024 it was also the same thing, he took his foot off because Magnussen was waving on the track while others made beautiful overtakes in T1 at Suzuka braking late.
Sochi 2021 comes to my mind.
Imo this is Ricciardo’s best overtake of his career. A move that has been stuck in my brain, it’s the first thing I think of when I hear of his name.
Yeah, bottas on hard slower tyres, ric on softs.. Whole video is wrong, Most of those were because of big tyre difference.. Yelisteiner you can do beter than this.. Yes, bottas is not fast driver, but better examples should be made...
@@bojanmilovanovic747that’s some real shade on lewis
@@bojanmilovanovic747 Tyre advantage doesn't matter. Yelistener is showing Bottas his poor defence moves. If the tyre advantgae is too big, Bot didn't needed to defend antways. He tried, but failed............ This video even could have been 60 minutes long........
@@Eric-rf1is You have no clue.. Yes, bottas is bad in defence and driving, but these examples are not applicable... In one of those you can see bottas tyre delaminating how old it is... All other are because of big tyre diference
Someone tag Big Ric to show him this plz.
Bottas races like he's afraid to scratch the paint on his car.
Those 2017 - 2021 cars look so aggressive and beautiful 🤩
So Bottas is all pace. His strength is in Qualifying & setting FLs
Attacking, Defending, Race craft lacking
Fastest lap were only possible because 1: he and Ham where that much ahead a free pistop was possible or 2. he was that far behind so Merc told him to snatch the point from Max.
ricciardo pretty much the opposite, his biggest weakness being qualifying pace. Great at race pace, great racecraft, attacks and puts a pretty good defense. if we look at stats, bottas has just 2 more wins than ricciardo despite being in a better car, when ricciardo has just 3 poles and bottas has 20
That blistering on his left rear in Brittan dough….
Brittain dough 😂
Absolutely terrifying. That W11 was so fast that even the tires couldn't handle it. Oh, also ,please don't judge me, but you should correct to "Britain though" , because what you've written means donut /bread 😂
@@jamarcus_OG they had a wrong car setup in that race
Well maybe that too but they brought wrong tyres to the race weekend for those conditions@@Neferus98
@@Neferus98 Setup was as good as they could really get it. The car couldnt handle the load at Silverstone either week. They got lucky race 1 and in race 2 it was warmer and they had to compromise
bruh it doesn't matter what Bottas did in China, unless he was planning on taking him out, Daniel was always going to get him.
And that is completely missing the point. Do you have any idea what the term CONTEXT means?
Nah, put verstappen in that car and there’s no way Ricciardo passes
@@monny1815because Verstappen would send him into Oblivion lol
@@TH2024WorldChamps Verstappen is just an example, I have never seen Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Leclerc get passed like this, none of them would allow him to take the inside so freely.
Yes, verstappen would probably force a crash or yield situation, but even still, I don't think it would be any different with any of the other top 3/4 drivers on the grid. This is what better racecraft comes down to most of the time, and there definitely was a way to avoid the overtake.
@@monny1815 Daniel that day was overtaking absolutely everyone, he put a similar move on Vettel, Hamilton and Kimi I'm fairly certain. In case you haven't watched China 2018, Danny was going to win regardless, that was probably the best overtaking clinic in modern era F1. As the original commenter said, the only way he didn't win or get the overtake done was if he was crashed into (similar to Max in that same race, except he caused a crash with Vettel).
Bottas reminds me a lot of giancarlo fisischella as a driver. Great in qualifying, but a bit of a passive driver during the race rember japan 2005? Giancarlo defend the line/closed the door out of the final chicane when he didn’t need it to compromised his exit speed wich left him a sitting duck to kimi on the straight.
On the subject of Fisi and Kimi, it happened again in Spa 2009 where Fisi got pole but lost the lead to Kimi, though granted he was in a slower car at the time
@@AndrewTan-randomIn fairness for Fisichella, giving Force India that podium probably meant more for him than risking it for a victory against Kimi.
@@AndrewTan-randomthat is very true, he did lose the lead to kimi because he was in a slower car than the ferrari, however force india ran without the kers system in 2009. Ferrari did run kers in 2009 so this aided kimi a little while trying to overtake giancarlo
Defending clean air as Brundle said.
Fisi wasn't like that before the Renault era when he drove for Jordan , Benetton and Sauber. At the time , I was negatively suprised in 2005 ,06 and 07.
I don't think Max takes him seriously.... back when Max was not at the top and regularly was racing in the top-6, I remember there was the post-race interview where all the overtakes he made were discussed, and when the interviewer said "then you overtook another car", Max replied "yeah, but that was Bottas!".
Back then he regularly finished 2nd with Hamilton in P1 and Bottas in P3. even though the Mercedes clearly was the better car.
The years of playing no.2 to hamilton destroyed his confidence imo.
@@BeBe-vh4ry He was like that before hahahaha go back and watch him before mercedes ahhahah
@@1BadPrixhahahaha I'm always very confused by people who add 'hahahahaha' in comments when it adds nothing and makes no sense in context hahahaha
@BeBe-vh4ry oh that's nice
@@1BadPrix hahahaha cool hahahhaa
If Bottas, car
how much onboards of every race every season you watched?
yelistener: yes
seriously, you make so much job here. thats incredible
i miss this ricciardo so much , what a driver he was
What happened with him?
@@Duyf Max,Renault,Norris,McLaren,regulation changes,to put it in short.
@@Duyfhe can't really adapt to the ground effect cars
@@RaizanX1 2021 was not ground effect and he still suck balls unfortunately, it's quite sad to see him go out like this
@@noisettehawk22 Adding that he costed McLaren the third place for the constructor championship, while Norris was fighting in the points with both Ferrari,Ricciardo barely defeated Gasly (with Ricciardo having a victory,while Gasly had more DNF than the Australian).
It's amazing how such a quick driver can be so mediocre at racecraft and wheel to wheel
He's not a quick driver
@@therealquaid1694 he may be past his prime, but he was a very good qualifier
He has the Record of quickest speed in an F1 Car
@@eduardomaciel9855 that doesn't mean anything, I'm talking about his raw pace, not the car's
@@eduardomaciel9855 Wow, he can drive fast in a straight line, amazing!
Just have to say... This channel is superb. Really nice concise analysis over a range of different topics 👌 keep it up!
Hes smart about it! Makes videos covering the most recent race and once the audience from those videos are done he already has stuff like this to keep them here!
Now he doesn't even have a door close anymore :(
We don't actually know how old the tyres are in most of these clips. With Max exiting the pits on fresh mediums, Bottas would compromise his race, if he put up too much of a defense against Verstappen on a different strategy.
At that stage Bottas didn’t have very old tires since graining was a big issue for Mercedes that weekend. They stopped earlier than Max to not risk a tire failure, iirc. I could be wrong though
@@amaiuruna You can see his rear tyres are done from the onboard
@@makoaki9071Bottas was guaranteed a podium anyway in the race. Bottas just has terrible racecraft 😂. He ended up finishing 3rd in that race anyway 🤣.
What's sad about that China 2018 move is that Bottas was dominating that race on pure pace before a safety car closed the gaps and gave Ricciardo fresher tires. That's what makes this video all the more annoying to watch: on his day, Bottas could beat 7x and 4x champions on pure pace, but he just doesn't have any resemblance of a killer instinct.
he doesn't want to compromise his entry and exit out of the corner by taking a super narrow line
Exactly, but sometimes it doesn't work ig
@@pizzalover1525 If you ask me , in all of the 4 cases here, the grip difference was so big that it is really questionnable to put a real defense given that you're gonna get passed any way one or another and looses precious seconds over others behind.
He had bad tyres on some of thesr scenarios and he wouldnt probably be able to close the door. Overreactions tho thats really poor racecraft
Could have included his defence on Ricciardo in 2018 Abu Dhabi too. Defended way too much and compromised himself, waving Ricciardo through.
France 2021: Bot and Max, same. 👍👍
Ricciardo had a huge tyre advantage so even if bottas had close the door there, daniel would have passed him with a much better traction 100m later ( like hamilton with norris at COTA )
BS, why than TRY to defend? You defend or don't........ this is neither of them.
The sound of both Merc & RB 🤩🎶 music to my ears
Lol
LMAO
why
agreed, way better than engines before them
@@agboi1344 wtf
Well gotta say that Ricciardo really launched the car to make this overtake! I wouldn't have dared to make it work like how he did 😮
2021 France is a good example for Bottas’ poor defence, but I think Verstappen’s overtake on bottas is a better showcase than Perez’s overtake. They were heading in to the same corner, but Bottas defended when verstappen was even further back, and he totally outbraked himself. This meant verstappen easily got past on exit, they didn’t even go side by side through the fast right hander. But he did something pretty similar with Perez like you showed, not as severe, which is arguably even worse because he didn’t learn his lesson at all.
A thing to keep in mind is the tyre degradation at Paul Ricard,Mercedes went for a one stop strategy that backfired later in the race,while Red Bull went for a mixed strategy,1 stop for Perez (with the first stint being incredible long) and a 2 stop for Max (taking the advantage that Perez barely lost track positions with his stint).
The other team that misjudged the tyre degradation that weekend was Ferrari, since both Sainz and Leclerc ended out of the points.
@@DerpSherman very true, both red bull’s had a tyre advantage, but I still think Bottas’ extreme inside defence from the large distance back both verstappen and perez were, was very unnecessary.
@@kaitoanderson2845 True,that move looked more improvised than a real defence,2021 wasn't his best season at Mercedes neither (and the first half of the season was one of his weakest).
Bottas is the potato chip of drivers. Never going to wow you, make you excited but not likely to disappoint you either.
Potato chip😂
Fun fact: The first two letters in the ID of this video are *F1* - you'll see it in the link.
man the rb14 sounds so good
if only it sounded good from the outside lol,Those Renault pu's pre-2022 was the quietest among all manufacturers and sounded like a tin can
@@rai2u a nice sounding tin can
i always thought he never fully crossed coz he was breaking and if he were to close it, it would be moving under breaking and therefore a penalty
please do a video on Stroll, Ocon, Ricciardo and Sargent’s poor race craft. these four drivers belong in Nascar
Well to be fair China 2018 Daniel did get fresh tyres under a safety car which caught both Mercedes out and my god did you see his left rear 2020 Silverstone? Other than that yeah I agree.
I think in Ricciardo's move Bottas moved in the middle and then tried to close completely but it was so late and under braking so probably both would crash. So, he left that space. The rest is history :)
At least his awareness isn't hamilton or russel level
yeah its far below either
Even Hamilton has been leaving the inside open for the past few years
2021 Russian GP with Max is also a very good one. Both started at the back and he could have holded Max back for a long time if not forever, but he let the door open and Max didn't need a second invite and made it look like a Sauber got passed by Red Bull.
Danny Ric in his prime... what a beast💪. Leaving Red Bull was a huge mistake, maybe he thought that Renault could have become the next Mercedes.
More like he new what was comming: getting beaten by Max and losing his nr.1 position (which he regained by Renault)
Yeah, I miss Daniel on Red Bull car. 🇦🇺🇦🇹
@Eric-rf1is he wasn't afraid of max. what he had a problem with was the unreliable car that gave him 8 dnfs in a single season and every race of his in 2018 had car issues. add to that red bull not holding max accountable for Baku 2018 crash, and clearly showing preference
his renault era was great especially 2020. 2019 didnt go like he wanted and mclaren had already poached him by the start of 2020. simply didn't have faith in his stint there but ended up making 5th in championship in a renault
@@huh4206 The unreliable car is total BS. The only thing that was unreliable was the Renault engine and RIC went to Renault. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Max was not to blame for the Baku crash. RIC lost downforce behind Max, same as VET behing Max at Silvestone. One difference: VET appologised.
These DTS fans that clown Ric now never saw his prime years💯
Bottas defends himself poorly, exactly as Fisichella defended himself poorly...
See him defending himself from the void, prematurely, in Suzuka 2005...
hes the polar opposite of perez: insanely fast, but way too passive in defending and attacking. he just doesnt know how to do it right. perez on the other hand is slow during qualifying and over one lap, but his race management, defending, attacking, divebombs are all much better than valtteri's.
Perez has been going beast mode this season. his balls-to-the-wall cornering has broken speed records in some turns, and he was just a hair shy of Max in Suzuka quali. I'll admit that traditionally Checo fits your description, but if he carries on like this, there won't be much more talk of him being replaceable.
I remember being so excited watching this race live, knowing that Danny was coming through the field on those brand new tires. Three races in and Merc had yet to win one!
It’s like racing against ai in f1 game😂
Formula 1 2018 Abu Dhabi max vs bottas was one of the great overtakes..and never got any real credit for it. Bottas screws max his magnificent overtake up a bit with his bad racecraft there too, if he stays on his line it wouldve been clean 👌🏻
Worst race craft from a driver in a dominant team i've seen and this is why i never rated him.
Terrible defensive skills, atrocious tire management on some tracks, incredibly passive in dirty air,...
One lap pace means nothing, even in an era where track position is everything, many drivers can be quick over one lap, over his 10 wins with Mercedes, many are purely due to circumstances.
Barrichello > Bottas and Pérez, everyday (watch races like Germany 2000 or Britain 2003).
max was always going to get the overtake done at 2020 silverstone.. fresh mediums vs the state of bottas' tyres.. left rear is actually shot
His biggest weakness ist starting. I dont remember him ever having a great start in a race.
if we want to see poor defending, Bottas in 2021 in Baku was woeful. Youd think the car had a problem and was limping back to the pits seeing how he was getting passed by everyone after the safety car restart.
In the first scene bottas didn't close the door early enough. He reacted to Ricciardo, so I guess he was not in the position to close the door completly.
But yes, his racecraft is really, really poor.
Unpopular opinion: Bottas is hands down the worst wheel to wheel racer on the grid.
His mullet isn't making it any easier for him either
mullet is post Merc. He even suggested Merc would not allow that mullet. 😱😱
@@Eric-rf1is don't get me wrong I love bottas better than Russell in the merc.
It's a shame that he has to change teams to sport a mullet. 😂
He definitely deserves a top team seat. But that ain't happening
@@slipstream01 He does not deserve a top team seat lol
He's only really fast over 1 lap and can't defend to save his life and he's even worse at passing.
His problem is he's not good beyond racing line, that's why he inmediatly opens the door to have a better in-out.
In the last one he compromised his chicane speed. He got out of the chicane better than Perez but had lost tenths of a second in a few meters
At Silverstone 2020, Bottas defending the position was kinda useless. If you look at the rear facing camera the tyre on the right appears to be massively graining, whilst Max was on fresh tyres. Still, it is a testament to the W11's speed that he was still able to hang on round the outside.
This reached its peak in 2021 when he basically let Verstappen through multiple times without putting up a fight, while Perez was defending against Hamilton at every opportunity.
One of his worst signature defensive moves is defending “fresh air”. And there’s no better example of Bottas doing this than in Abu Dhabi 2018 on lap 38 against Max.
His rear left tire in the 3rd clip was graining bad. Was gonna lose those positions anyways but yeah, bad racecraft
Daniel had much better tires than Bottas
Looking at the rear tires on the Bottas / Verstappen example, he had to go back to the outside to maintain the faster line on those worn-out tires. VER could send it inside of Brooklands on fresh mediums. But overall, Bottas was always passive at Mercedes.
A few of these are unfair, He was on much older compounds when these happened and just surviving out there
another example would've been Portimao 2021 against Verstappen as well. He barely closed the door
theres also the one where Vettel pulls a double dummy on him in Barcelona, best overtake in f1 history if you ask me.
What was Bottas supposed to do at Silverstone? He's on worse tires and its two turns where the inside becomes the outside and vice versa. Unless he's flawless through the section, he's getting run off the track by Max and losing tons of time.
Alonso: All the time you have to leave space!
Bottas: Alright sir!
I thought the title was a reference to ford v Ferrari
only time Bottas wins is on pure pace advantage, thats why hes solid in quali
Bottas races like his just going for a Sunday drive happy to be amongst the action and that's about it. Need someone else to replace him who is willing to push the car.
i feel even if bottas did close the door fully a max x daniel baku 2018 would’ve happened
I always thought Bottas has the speed but not aggressive at all. He's too cautious during defending and overtaking.
Look there’s a reason Hamilton was fighting for Bottas instead of George. He was the perfect teammate. Fast enough in qualifying to get the top row and help defend for Hamilton. Not fast enough to pose a problem come race day. Passive enough to follow team orders.
2:47 He did exactly the same against Max. Arguably cost Hamilton the race win and didn’t even learn anything from it
Maybe that's why we don't see him crash as much as some others. Only thing that comes to my mind is Hungary GP 2021.
Why dont you have a look at more recent clips of his wheel to wheel racing? His start at zandvoort 2023 was probably the best start of the season but i never saw anyone talk about it. Why do you show clips that are so old but for other drivers you always show newer clips. What about his drive in Monza 2021? What about Brazil 2022? Why always show the bad stuff and make it look like he cant do anything, I genuinely have some bias against him taking some random clips from a long time ago. You can even look at last race and you would see that he had some great wheel to wheel racing. I would definently recommend having a look at some of his other moments , if you post so much negativity about him all the time, because it hat gotten to the point where you just show cherry picked all the clips of him not defending well.
I genuinely listen to the 2020 Honda engine in my free time lmao.
Mercedes took too long to give the seat to Bottas, if George was given the seat from 2020, Mercedes would not lose the 2021 title
Maybe context would have helped newer fans. Daniel on fresh set of tyres while Bottas on aging old tyres. ( Daniel had the time to make an extra free stop after safety cark
As a Hamilton fan, it's annoying to say but he leaves the door wide open on the inside. Especially 2021 with max
Yeah his racecraft is non-existent, I remember him being scared to divebomb Vettel on finished tyres in Bahrain
*ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE!*
*“OK? UNDERSTOOD?”*
Maybe Bottas needs to watch a Finnish "How to Close a Door" guide??
(pin this comment please, those who know.. know).
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He would have overtake anyway.. Ricciardo had the tyre advantage.
maaan slipstream used to be so powerful
Remember how his defending used to be 99 according to F1 Games 😂
3:06 the rear wing on the Merc. Is it only on camera and because of the rear suspension? It looks like the middle plate is bending
And thanks for the music
It's not like he doesn't want them to get in. He just plays a bit hard to get, but gives in right after he feels them insisting. My theory is that he actually wants them to get in.
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rare bad yelistener video, not a single word about tyres
Turkey 2021 was Bottas only highlight of the season I'd say. If Perez performed better on quali Merc would have lost the constructors championship too
He probably tried to send an oponent to the inside and have a better exit from the racing line. However it didn't work because he did it with an afwul timing
Sometimes not even having the fastest car by a mile can hide your lack of skill. Not enough credit is given to Mercedes engineers when Russell took the 2020 Mercedes ONCE and immediately stomped the rest of the field. And they want to sell us it was all the driver for 7 years.
Hamilton also left the door open in Abu Dhabi 2021 (with a championship on the line)
Old vs new tyres
don't forget the Mexico start where he left a massive gap to the right and gave Verstappen the grippy racing line.
are you suggesting only bottas has trouble closing the door? lmao almost every max vs. lewis overtake happened because one of them didn't close the door fully
prime example: silverstone 2021
well said
To add to Masi's contribution to the end AD21, Lewis's trip to the beach in Imola, and the Brake Magic Extravaganza, please welcome Bottas' complete lack of a killer instinct as another reason Lewis didn't win WDC in 2021 after practically being handed it by RBR misfortunes across the season.
Lewis messing up his qualy in Monaco (and Mercedes taking out Bottas with that terrible pitstop),the poor pitstop strategy at both France and Abu Dhabi,the amount of time Lewis lost with Tsunoda and Perez in the Turkish GP, the drama at Monza and Jeddah,Perez killing a possible free pitstop at Abu Dhabi with his defence,there is a few more factors for what happened in 2021.
@@DerpSherman Agreed. Forgot about all the other own goals Merc and Lewis completed during that season. Should've been a barely comfortable cruise to another championship, really.
@@shoryuag I mean,side by side,Red Bull was more consistent all season long (aside of Perez that was more inconsistent than Bottas),and all summed up by the end of the season,Hamilton had some great runs at the begining and the end of the season,while Max got the mid season completely dominated,both gained nothing from Spa with the half of points given (only Russel got something from that with his P2 qualy),and Alonso took a good chunk of points from Lewis hands with his defence at Hungary(that could have been an easy win for Lewis in this aspect,since neither the Alpines,Vettel or Sainz had something to fight back at that point in the race),in the Turkish GP Bottas dissapeared in the horizon at the front and Lewis lost a good amount of time (and tyres) early race with Tsunoda and later with Perez causing another (probably unplaned) pitstop (i can remember Lewis not being too happy with it),the rain really helped Lewis in Russia but Max got that P2 out of any calculation (both Mercedes and Red Bull did good calls on them on that race,but their teammates were not so lucky).
He’s racecraft is trash when it’s comes to pulling out defensive stops and overtakes. Always remember in 2021 he’ll be asked to defend against Max or someone else, next corner he’s in their mirrors. Russia, Abu Dhabi, Italy and many more.
Bottas isn't a bad driver. he is just defenseless against a good driver in a good car, anyone would.
Hes got good pace but just poor racecraft
it's just a Bottas, nothing less nothing more.
yeah it was lost battle daniel had newer tyres also kimi at the end finished very close to bottas so any more defending from bottas would have cost p2 maybe