F-22 Raptor vs T-65 X-Wing | USA vs Star Wars: Who Would Win
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- In this episode we continue the recent trend of putting real-world military equipment against Star Wars technology by battling the incredible F-22 Raptor and the versatile and powerful t-65 X-Wing. Can even the most advanced fighter jet known to mankind stand up to the Rebel Alliance's iconic X-Wing starfighter? F-22 vs X-Wing. Air Force vs Rebel Alliance. United States of America vs Star Wars. Find out which side comes out on top on today's episode of USA vs Star Wars: Who Would Win!
The F-22 Raptor is an advanced multi-role fighter with the United States Air Force. This American fighter, as created by Lockheed Martin, is the most advanced (and one of the most expensive) fighter jets ever created. The T-65 X-Wing is the Rebel ship used throughout the Original Trilogy, serving well pilots like Luke Skywalker and Wedge Antilles during the Battle of Yavin and the Death Star Assault, the Battle of Endor, and on countless other missions.
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Trump wall vs Death Star
EckhartsLadder can you do the flood from halo vs the xenomorphs from the alien seris,or halo's warthog vs star wars at-rt
The us has the F-35
I'd personally give the X-Wing a 6 - 7 out of 10. I love these two machines but the F-22 has stealth Capabilities. It would be hard to bring down an F-22 because it is fast and at the same time maneuverable. F-22 pilots also know the Pukachev Cobra which can be useful in a dogfight scenario. I also doubt about the remark that you made about the ARC-170 reaching Mach 44. Staying conscious at that speed is extremely hard; if not impossible.
Great Video though. Keep at it EckhartsLadder. :)
EckhartsLadder 4th attempt, Godzilla (not the 1998 incarnation) vs 5 or 10 maybe a whole battlegroup of at-ats
Ah, Star Wars. Where advanced aircraft fight like it's WWII and futuristic infantry run at each other like the Civil War.
@Sagrotan Actually, it's exactly like that.
This is exactly why the US could kick the shit out of the empire's ground troops. Man for man, we are better.
@Sagrotan Yes it is like that
Mad respect for our troops, but against the fictional Galactic Empire, even soldier for soldier we'd be screwed. Look at this video: th-cam.com/video/d0gENCibZ6I/w-d-xo.html . A simple blaster pistol can cause an explosion the size of a 40mm grenade, and send debris everywhere. Blaster Carbines like the E-11 could completely destroy cover, kill armored troops without even hitting them, and simply have much higher yields than M4 Carbines. Not to mention the full body armor which protects against plenty of shrapnel, and even bullets/slugthrowers to an extent, and seems to be lighter as well as more protective than anything modern. Although Stormtroopers are often a laughing stock, I'm sure everyone here has heard how they are in actuality very elite soldiers who go through months to years of intense training. The largest difference is that Imperial Stormtroopers have much stronger weapons in a much smaller package, with even less recoil.
so like trench warfare but with lasers
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think AIM-120s hitting the 100-200 kiloton range seems slightly off, unless they're putting nuclear warheads on modern air to air missiles now...
The Real Superhavoc lmao yeah you right. AA missiles are not that strong
its trump's new policy to put nukes in all weapons, including standard bullets
There were plans to use nuclear anti air missles against sovjet bomber fleets during the cold war.
DatAlien AIR-2 Genie and AIM-26 Falcon
That's some battletech missiles.
Did you just say that a AA missile has a 200kt yield?
LMAO
D i o right? Where did he get that? Maybe he misplaced a decimal.
They must be using cold war era aim-4 falcon missiles with the nuclear warhead.
Lol, it might get slightly close to that if it was an AIR-2 Genie rocket - note, *rocket,* not a missile, as it's unguided... an unguided air-to-air nuclear rocket. Yeah, it's as insane as it sounds. It was intended to take out massive formations of Soviet bombers in the early years of the Cold War, but it only has about a 1.5kT warhead. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie
Jar Jar Binks V.S. Barking Dog Across the Street
Barking dog wins because if you throw it a treat or food, it shuts up. Jar Jar will just keep talking.
That's why Jar Jar wins. He'll talk you to death.
'Meesa no liking yo barking. Hush the hush now.'
Lol
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Raptors are meant to engage air to air targets from hundreds of miles away, so unless that X-Wing's deflector shields also block radar, the Raptor pilot will have a bead on this guy and light off two missiles before the X-Wing even knows there's a threat.
It's anybody's game from there, but I thought this was worth pointing out
The X-Wing does have ECM and sometimes countermeasures
I agree, but at the same time I feel like the X-wing would see it coming, but it’s not like this is actually going to happen either way.
Radar isn't magic, it's an electronic sensor that detects a return and interprets its information
@@telesniper2 What's your point
@@thegauntlet90 it isn't a magic eye that magically sees everything in all conditions with perfection
You're totally off the mark when it comes to the speed and maneuverability of the X-Wing.
Canonically the MAXIMUM atmospheric speed of the T-65 is 1050 kph (Star Wars: Ships of the Galaxy) which is less than half the maximum speed of the F-22.
Repulsors aren't generally used to give a ship enhanced maneuverability as they only worked against a gravity well. This is why atmospheric ships such as the T-47 and the TIE Striker used aerodynamic surfaces for steering instead of thrusters or repulsors. They give the X-Wing the ability to float so it can taxi from place to place, but that is the limit of their use.
The F-22 on the other hand not only has the benefit of lifting surfaces for steering, it also has vectored thrust. It has the ability to actually alter the direction of the engines in order to achieve maneuvers not generally possible for a craft pushing thrust in only one direction.
What other craft can do this? The TIE Fighter, which is generally known to be more maneuverable than the X-Wing.
Another error you made was in regards to the AIM-120. It has a 40-50 lb warhead on it, which will not put it anywhere near 100-200 KILOTONS, which would likely knock the F-22 out of the sky even if it fired at maximum range.
So the question is can the F-22's missile system (radar guided) be jammed by the X-Wing and can the X-Wing detect the F-22. I imagine both questions would be yes which then leads to the question of whether the X-Wing can achieve a lock and fire torpedoes in the time that it takes for the F-22 to close to dogfighting distance and can the F-22's cannon breach the X-Wing's shields?
The X-Wing's targeting computer generally has to be facing straight towards the intended target and takes between ten seconds to multiple minutes to acquire a lock. If we're to take the Death Star exhaust point as an example, the X and Y Wings had to be right on top of it before the computer would give them the go-ahead to fire.
The only time we've seen torpedoes used against fighters is mostly video games and a few comics (of various canonical worth). In all those cases, the enemy fighter had to be within a couple of km at most (easy visual range) before the computer would begin to track it. For a fighter going twice the speed of the X-Wing, that distance is going to be covered in the blink of an eye and the X-Wing will no longer be able to get a lock due to the F-22 being behind it.
So we're in a dogfight. The F-22 is going to outclass the X-Wing heavily with superior speed and maneuverability. The question remains will the X-Wing's shields be able to hold up against the F-22's 20mm Vulcan cannon? I'm going to say no as ships the size of the Millennium Falcon have been implied to be vulnerable to an E-Web repeating blaster and that weapons system does a lot less damage to a human being than even a short burst of Vulcan fire.
The X-Wing will still be able to outclimb the F-22 and will be able to use areas of the atmosphere the F-22 is incapable of reaching, but I don't think the win rate will be 9.5/10 in the X-Wing's favor.
Really like to see your views on this.
I can look up the speed of the T-65 X-wing too. 1,050 Kilometers per hour WITHOUT SHIELDS! With their deflector shields up, they most certainly can travel faster than the listed speed. Seriously, how hard is it to read everything? "1,050 km/h (higher speeds possible with deflector shields on)."
The speeds possible with deflector shields on, is unknown. Which means, it could be possible, the deflector shields could allow it to travel faster than the F-22. So taking the speed he mentions in the video, the two crafts would close so quickly, neither of them would likely be able to achieve a lock-on, to fire their weapons (proton torpedoes for X-wing, Missiles for F-22).
Night sage, the problem with that is the whole point of doing comparisons like this are supposed to follow the lore of the movies and real life respectively. Every movement of x-wings we’ve seen in atmosphere comes no we’re near the 44000 number he suggested, and are more comparable to the shield-less speed. The Star Wars stats are known to be highly exaggerated either over or under, just like them claiming an imperial carrier that could practically carry hundreds of tie fighters only held 20. Not to mention traveling at such speeds would quickly deplete their energy shields due to the strong resistance the shields would take. And even then there is no basis in reality that energy shields would remove drag, given that would mean the air molecules are phasing through the x-wing and the pilot.
I still give the win to the X-wing simply because the proton torpedos Luke used were able to accurately track down a target that was over a thousand kilometers away. Making the range of the X-wing far superior to the F-22, the X-wing can simply go to space and fire those torpedos and leave.
Since Ecks used Legends sources here, proton torpedos have also been used against fighters in the X-Wing books.
I also wouldn't consider the Vulcan and the E-web to be equals, I'm not saying the E-web is more powerful but that since they are different weapons systems their effects would be different, the E-Web is plasma based while the Vulcan is kinetic. Not to mention that the Falcon has taken fire from TIE cannons which are WAY more powerful than E-webs and survived multiple asteroid impacts.
@@josesanchezrodriguez1783 Well we've seen the X-wing's replacement torn to shreds by stormtrooper rifles in ep VII. Considering those most certainly don't due more damage than the cannon, the only difference is whether the X-wing is particle shielded or not.
As for going to orbit and firing torps, canon contradicts that. The first Death Star could have been destroyed from a safe distance if the X-wing had such pinpoint accuracy at that distance. Why even go into the trench when they could have just lobbed one in from where they initially made their approach?
If the X-wing has to engage TIE strikers at point blank range, it has to do so against the F-22. Canon rules out Legends. And since the X-wings lost to the Strikers, they seem to be less maneuverable to vessels that use aerodynamic surfaces.
You are forgetting that the AIM-120 AMRAAM is a BVR missile. The X-Wing is in no way a stealthy aircraft, the X-Wings' ECM suite is pointless when the AIM-120 AMRAAM has a home-on-jam capability which means that if it is being jammed it will home in on the source of the jammer.
There is a problem with that. You are assuming that the Jammer is of OUR technology. Jammers is Star Wars are way way advanced then anything we can field and if by chance the X-Wing is locked on, oh well, just fly straight up into the atmosphere with your speed and into space and the missile is gone. Then come back down and hit the jet from above.
There is a problem with that. You are assuming that the Jammer is of OUR technology. Jammers is Star Wars are way way advanced then anything we can field and if by chance the X-Wing is locked on, oh well, just fly straight up into the atmosphere with your speed and into space and the missile is gone. Then come back down and hit the jet from above.
the parameters of the fight clearly states it happens in earth atmosphere. but shields. the only thing that saves the x-wing
Even if it's from sci-fi it has to have a rational basis. A jammer is a point-emitter, no matter what, and works by flooding all RADAR bands with noise. So you just go to the center of the noise.
For Star Wars jammers to work differently, the word "jammer" would be completely wrong to use for them.
Ovni Not so fast - modern jammers don't blanket the aera, but try to create false but plausible echoes or attempt to trick the interference suppression into also suppressing the actual contact. If the Star Wars jammers work similarly but are a few generations ahead the Aim-120 would for example confuse the X-Wing with ground clutter.
An Aim-9X otoh wouldn't be fooled, but carries a much weaker warhead...not that promising either.
I doubt the X-Wing's atmospheric maneuverability can compare to a jet fighter designed for aerodynamic maneuvering.
Doesn't matter. The X-Wing will just fly so high that the F-22's engines can't operate.
Yeah, but remember, the X-Wing doesn't use its wings to fly.
Anzac-A1 If, on the off-chance that the F-22 is carrying a small tactical nuclear missile; it could take the X-wing out, but neither craft would survive. If it isn't (which is the most likely case), then the X-wing wins.
Except that the F-22 doesn't carry nukes...ever. It can carry JDAMs and small diameter bombs, but no nukes. Also, small nuclear missiles have no capability to target fighters, and the X-Wing's speed means it could easily get out of range.
Anzac-A1 It's capable of carrying nukes, though the chances that one happens to be carrying a nuke when facing an X-Wing are extraordinarily slim; it's possible. Though the nuke would need to be remotely detonated, which requires coordination with ground personnel. So the X-Wing will win 99.9% of the time, the .1% is from that chance of a nuke.
The f-22 would win almost every time because the x-wing needs to be in visual range to hit the target.
@JohnnyKhonLao torpedo's against a stealth fighter, HAHAH!!
@@fasterthandragons7908 a highly maneuverable stealth fighter thanks to the thruster vectoring technology the Raptor has. Sorry a bit late to this discussion. Though I could see this match up going either way. The heat seeker missiles are definitely something any pilot should worry about. Though it is possible that the X-Wing might be too fast for those to be a factor.
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@JohnnyKhonLao if the death star is moon sized than we are talking about over a thousand kilometers, way past the range of the f22.
Particle Shields: Am I a joke to you?
No, F-22 wins in atmo hands down. What you say is "it's one chance it has" is literally what it's supposed to do. Standard combat doctrine for Raptors is identify target, suppress the target using it's suite of electronic warfare packages, fire missile, and forget. All at beyond visual range. If it gets into a visual range dogfight, someone fucked up
Except that the Raptor has no weapon.that can deafeat.The T-65s shields.
You're also comparing apples to oranges here. The F-22 is designed to go up against similar craft and technologies. The X-Wing just has higher tech, which is why it solely wins. Compare similar designs and philosophies, it's more balanced.
Sean carroll you should see the video in which he compares the m-1 to the at-at.it is just as bad.
thunberbolt two
He said the F-22 missiles have an average yield of 100-200kt. I think that's more than enough to vaporize the X-Wing if it exploded within the same postal code.
I'd agree man after I watched this vid I searched up the f22 and the x wing and the f22 wins for sure
I raise you this, as a Sci-fi enthusiast, but mainly aircraft enthusiast and lover. The problem in Star Wars universe is that they all need to fight in visual range. But F-22 is designed mainly to fight in BVR. It's not the F-22s only chance, the F-22s only way to fight. Why is it stealth? Well because it's supposed to jump on it's target. I know you said that both of them have visual confirmation. But that's just not how the F-22 would fight, you are putting it in a disadvantage right away. In a fair fight, where they had to find out about each other. I think F-22 has just a way higher chance of succeeding and possibly makes the X-Wings chances really low.
Proton torpedoes have a range of at least 80 km (Diameter of the Death Star 1.) That F-22 is gonna go up in a puff of smoke before it even knows it's in a fight.
You're Wrong well the modern day AA missiles van be guided and i dony know if a proton torpedo is guided and if is not guided the pilot of the x-wing still will need visual comfirmation to shoot the torpedo
X-wing uses visual sensors for locking torpedoes, not IF or EM. It locks on to the cross-section of the targeted vehicle. So it needs visual confirmation. F-22 will possibly be nearly invisible, since its made to have as small cross section as possible and fend off radar waves. So it wont literally even pop up on X-Wings sensors, while the F-22s radar will be screaming that theres an X-Wing.
If you've seen the video Normandy vs Falcon. Even though Normandy is stealth in a way that it uses low emission powerplants, and heatsinks. Against the falcon it was no use. Since on short ranges, it just locked onto the very cross section of the ship.
Whilst on huge ranges, you can't rely on that, it's too small if visible at all and the projectile would lose lock instantly after firing off. That's why IR is used, since it glows like a damn lighthouse on those sensors. So no, X-wing wouldn't probably know what hit him.
Not to mention that AIM-120D has an effective range of around 180kms!!!
AIM-120C-5 105kms.
AIM-120A/B 50/70kms.
If ships in Star Wars universe can't do something, it's BVR. Just deal with it.
no, because Star War's radar and sensors are far more advanced. They have to be since they have to deal with finding ships that can cloak to the naked eye and scanners, like Mauls personal ship. The X-Wing will have the F-22 spotted via it's electronics capability and if the pilot is smart, he would fry over the F-22 and dive in from the sun and quickly bring down the F-22. Sorry, but you are assuming that Star Wars radar is our level, which it is not.
Panzer Killer lol i was looking your comment from a forerunners vs star wars video also i will leave some arguments, first i dont know if a proton torpedo can lock down on a target and chase him and if is possible the F-22 could use a countermeasure also i think that is capable even for cyber war and if is true it could inhabillitate the radar of the x-wing,and in Return of the Jedi,if the shields protected the super star destroyer from lasers,but the a-wing that crashed in the bridge could destroy it so i think that it would work as the same way if an x-wing shield try to stop an AMRAAM
Once the F-22 Raptor gets shot down, the super powerful secret fight comes out of area 51 with all the UFO tech and just wrecks the xwing...
List; Fourth Try
1) Iron Man, MCU vs Master Chief John-117
2) Eternal Empire vs Galactic Empire
3) Mass Effect Alliance Fleet vs Halo Earth Defense Fleet
4) Behemoth class Battlecruiser vs Imperial Star Destroyer II or Pillar class Heavy Cruiser
5) Shadow vessel vs Imperial Star Destroyer or Covenant cruiser
6) Starfury vs Tie Fighter or X-wing
7) Zerg invasion of Coruscant or Reach
8) Abeloth vs Cthulhu
9) Starship Troopers, novel vs Spartans
10) Harrower Dreadnought vs Imperial-I Star Destroyer
I'm down for #6, the Starfury would win, but it could be fun
Arwing (star fox 64) vs Z-95 (Star wars)
I like The System's Alliance versus UNSC Earth Defense. They both use Railguns. I'm not sure who'd win. If it took place In Mass Effect's universe, they'd have a decisive advantage considering the Mass Relays.
Kenneth Kates ironman MCU be Master Chief
I agree let's vote for this comment
My money is on the chief
Alien infestation on an imperial star destroyer (7th attempt)
I'm sorry...did you say "hundred kiloton range" for an F-22 missile? Do you even research these things beforehand? The bomb that was dropped on hiroshima, Japan in world war 2 was 15 kilotons and did a mile radius of damage. There is no way that an F-22 raptor AIM missile does anywhere near that kind of damage. It does at most 100 tons of TNT equivalent energy output. Even that is a bit excessive.
I'm glad I wasn't the only person who did a double take when he said that.
Rob Alexander I'm glad that I'm not alone!
100 tons of TNT equivalent is way excessive. An AIM-120c uses a 40 pound warhead, nowhere close to 100 tons.
Aaron2 Holl2 cc
You really think he gets his military information right? I spotted many problems when he talked about the Abrams, some things about tanks in general he skipped! Such as Gun Elevation, shell-drop, the optimal range. So many things he didn't even talk about.
Big problem for X-Wing, F-22 kills from over the horizon. X-Wing is most definitely a line of sight fighter. It will have to dodge a volley of up to 8 missiles before it get half a chance to kill the F-22. Not saying it's a sure thing for F-22, but it will ALWAYS get the first shots off with multiple tracking weapons. X-Wing has inertial dampeners, shields, and highly advanced metallurgy. Assuming flying in atmosphere doesn't degrade the shields and dampeners too much, it might be able to dodge some or most of the missiles and tank whichever ones hit. If it survives the missile barrage, it then has to locate a stealth fighter that will likely be over 20 kilometers away. Again, might not be a problem for the X-Wing depending on how its sensors operate and how sophisticated they are. If does locate the F-22, it wins. No question that the X-Wing should be both faster (with shields up) and a better dogfighter. I say its a toss up. I remember reading in some legends material that shields on spacecraft do not work very well in atmosphere. Just looking at the X-Wing's profile, its clear the F-22 would have no trouble spotting it as soon as it cleared the horizon. It really comes down to how well the X-Wing's advanced tech works in atmosphere and whether it will work well enough to survive the F-22's guaranteed opening volley. I just don't know enough about the specified performance factors to call it.
The f22 raptor has 6 aim-120d missiles, with a range of 180km with a speed of mach 4, they also have home on jamming, so if the x-wing tries to jam it, the missile switches it's targeting and locks on to that. I think the raptor would win almost any scenario.
It seriously feels like you give the starwars universe an advantage all the time.
Try Mach 2 but yeah
Sepritsts fleet vs the empires fleet
dude the empire would win
no question
That's specific...
really you think star fighters would be that effective?
that was not the only reason the ship went down there were multiple factors involving its downfall
that is because its a movie man it was like a last ditch effort to take down the deathstar
Your "machine gun" is a cannon, a cannon that sprays 20mm high explosive at 6,000 rpm. One 20mm HE will do massive damage to a modern fighter, just saying. Not that the F22 would win, the X-Wing is a beast. But most generally refer to a machine gun when talking about a smaller caliber weapon, 5.56, 7.62, up to 12.7. And an air to air missile wouldn't have a 200KT yield. That's more like a tactical nuke. The more you know.
The shields won't protect it, this is projectiles we are talking about, not light.
Kristofer Mercer
Star Wars has particle shields, which are designed to protect against orbital speed projectiles.
You know the little chunks of metal and plastic that are moving several dozen times the speed of sound?
he probably just saw the tracers that are placed every few rounds on the belt lol
@@mikewaterfield3599 the vulcan can be set up to be feed both with a belt and without a belt
According to my battery low bluethoot headphones "the x-wing deflector shields are *battery low* " 😂😂😂😂
BC 304 Daedalus-class Battlecruiser (Stargate series, Post-Unending, No ZPM) vs Standard Imperial Fleet (Star Wars and at the height of the Empire)
Yes. Finally.
DrakeMarvell that's something I've been asking for for ages!
Indeed
Is it one BC 304 vs the Imperial Fleet from Endor, or is it all the BC 304's constructed in Stargate? I think it was 4 or 5, not sure. Or is the variant that had Asgard weapon emplacements?
Post unending, which is the last episode of season 10... So yes, it had the beams.
I think the F-22 would win, because the x-wing's sensors are more meant to detect what other star ships would have, and it's armor is designed to deflect lasers, not high speed rockets. Also, the F-22 is more maneuverable, and probable will be hard to lock on-to.
I don't think the x-wing's deflector shields are meant to withstand high velocity projectiles. The 20mm cartridge can reach a velocity of 3,380 ft per second, which is much faster than any blaster bolt! That projectile is also bringing 38,000 ft-lbs of energy with it!
Hey Eckhart, I know you covered the basics of this, but when the f14 was in service it had missile systems which could engage multiple targets at ranges around 22km. I'm not up quite as well on the f22, but I think they will have improved on this, so I think the X wing could be receiving many warheads before it even sees the f22. Other than that, I think you're spot on! Keep up the great work!
The F22 would be more capable than the F35 for this purpose.
2 Venetors Vs 1 Imperial Star destroyer!
i think he already made that one basicaly one venator survives afther the star figthers complement cripled the I-1 SD by smashing its turbolazers
If the deflector shield of the X wing is like the shield in Independance Day then it could easily block amraams. X wing has an advanded radar system that can detect fighter spacecrafts even from an close orbital distance. don't forget the X Wing has proton missiles that can autonomously search for targets and lock on it once detected.
its amazing that a fighter jet that we have today is able to at least compete with something from star wars which is truly amazing
Keep in mind that the original source material was created multiple decades before the raptor's inception
F-22 should win, it has stealth, advance systems (weapons and surveillance).
By about 7 out of 10.
Thank you so much for doing this fight, and please do the P. 1000 Ratte vs AT-AT walker (THIRD ATTEMPT!!!!!)
KillerDud301 Rip atat
AT-AT would one hit the bitch, considering how fast the AT-AT is with aiming vs the speed of the Ratte
British Empire the rat has an double 28cm gun(battleship guns) and three 128mm guns. The Atat would not onehit the Ratte and than will get finished.
Do you have any reasonable idea how powerful the lasers of an AT-AT are when they hit max power level
holy fuck i really sounded like an imperial
I think the X-wing will win an CQB fight, but I think F-22 will win at a long rang fight, witch it will try to because the star wars dog fighting was based off of WW1 air battles, and the F-22 is a more long ranged jet fighter.
Don't you mean wvr and bvr?
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Within Viewing Range and Beyond Viewing Range.
Essentially CQB and long-range.
Nah in WVR fight the X-Wing will also lose thanks to the initial dampeners they wont know when their airframe will get knocked out and no longer air worthy oh also don't forget every pilot of the air force knows how to energy fight and energy fight did not exist on star wars dogfight because it is space Potential and Kinetic energy is too high at that point they will only need to manuever like hell like an A6M2 Zero aircraft because in space gravity is everywhere I shall also mention G limit in space shall be higher than one in an atmosphere
John Cumbee f22 wins in wvr, it’s cannon will tear an x wing to shreds
The XWing doesn’t surpass the speed of sound The F 22s main missiles would easily be able to hit it
The F-22's stealth goes beyond radar. It is also designed to have a reduced radio, infrared, acoustic and visual detection. It has up to eight beyond-visual-range missiles, advanced detection and avionics, and a 20mm rotary gun. The pilot can use a helmet with integrated display, letting them "see" through the plan in all directions. - The x-wing has five 'missiles', four wing-mounted lasers, decent avionics, a heads-down targeting screen and a pole-mounted missile targeting scope. The x-wing likely shows up on radar like a metal barn, but it also has sci-fi shields.
Given the above information, I think you have the wrong conclusion.
“Pick up your visual scanning!” Lol
Pillar of Autumn (Halo) vs Venator class Star Destroyer (Star Wars)
Der Kaylon Pillar of Autumn's best asset was her captain.
It was also able to take a beating, which is why it was selected in the first place. I think Cortana said they had been reported to keep on fighting with ninety percent of their hull gone.
F-22 against a standard TIE fighter.
Owen Alexcee hahaha, no contest! Raptor wins 9.9 if not 10 out of 10!
The TIE has NO sheilds. Hell in this battle the shield is the ONLY thing the X-Wing has on teh Raptor.(though i still am skeptical of SW sheilds. Star Trek, Stargate and many other IPs show how their sheilds deflect fire. I have yet to see ONE instance in the SW movies were the shots don't look like they are just hitting the ships armour except for a few select moments like teh beginning battle in Ep: III when a Venator's AT-TE used ist superlaser against a ship and even then it just flickers and dies. SW ships seem to rely more on armour than Shields IMO).
I except my mistake but seeing as 9 kilotons was the payload of the Little boy atomic bomb and we NEVER see Photon torpedos release an explosion close to that I call BS that they are that powerful until given evidence proving otherwise.
So is essence a nuclear shaped charge? Ok that changes things, hell the US made Nuclear air to air missiles before. Still, i don't think the X-wing is going to get off the easy
The X-wing could straight up ignore conventional weapons. I call BS on this whole matchup. The best thing the US has the would work against an X-wing is a ship-mounted railgun.
If it's BVR, F-22 wins. But if it's dogfight, X wing owns.
A thought: an anti-aircraft missile is almost always designed to explode near a target and damage it by high speed shapnel. Some work differently, like the Starstreak, but generally every missile would shower the X-Wing with debris, not deliver a direct kinetic/HEAT warhead.
Now, Im not an expert on Star Wars material sciences, but I think it should be easy to show that an X-Wing is capable of surviving much worse, like, didnt Luke fly through an explosion and said he was just a "little cooked" or something? Such an explosion would rip a modern aluminium aircraft into little shreds.
So Im claiming that F-22 does not possess a missile that could be expected to both hit and cause damage to the X-Wing.
Fighters are equipped with ray shields in star wars, not particle shields because equipping that as well would be a bit too expensive. Luke survived the blast because it was a plasma based weapon, thus primarily heat, which his energy shields could shrug off fine. A modern Air-to-Air missile, even if exploding next to the target, would produce a shockwave of sorts along with shrapnel. This would bypass the shielding systems and either knock the X-wing out of the air or lacerate it with shrapnel.
I didn't say it was because of particle shield, I said they have armoured hulls which can withstand the shrapnel.
However since you mentioned it, armour or not it's still madness to have a ship without particle shields, as space during battle is not exactly empty. The whole laser shielding idea comes from the deathstar chimney which very specifically would have been left without particle shielding.
Retribution class battleship from wh40k vs executor class Dreadnought this once got 282 likes bro
Very few ships in starwars can actually break the speed of sound.
Poe is a video game character with all the cheats enabled.
He's like Wedge with the cheese turned up
I didn't know we were chucking 100-200 kiloton nukes at airplanes, drones and small groups of people. LOLZ
One of the big problems I have here is that a lot of star wars ships seem to use sensors to lock on. But the F-22 is designed for stealth so the lock on might not work
I am glad you said "best known to the public". The F-22 was developed with 1985 technology. The new fighters are impressive. The ram and scram jets are 1970s tech. The Aurora was 1990s. Dial a yield Nukes are now, actually they are 3 years ago. Electromagnetic gravity propulsion is now and the future.
but F22's can't go into space
Starscream: HA HA LOCUSTS GO BYE BYE.
People are SEVERELY downplaying the X-Wing in this fight. While the Raptor holds a pretty decisive speed advantage (in atmosphere, at least), that sure as hell isn't giving it a win on it's own. X-Wing proton torpedoes have an output of approximately 100 kilotons as a middle end estimate, which is far more than anything the F-22 can dish out. Given that X-Wings can survive a hit from a proton torpedo with their shields up, I find it hard to believe that something that's around 200-400 kilograms (if we're using a mark 83 or 84 bomb) at most is going to even come close to taking an X-Wing shield down.
I would have to agree with most people. The X wing would not, or should not, even get close to dogfighting distance.
The F-22 (and the Su-57 to an extent, another stealth fighter) usez stealth to avoid detection and long range missiles to attack and destroy a target that it can not see.
The F-22 is designed to win the fight before it even starts, and I doubt the X-wing can escape an Amraam.
Besides we can't base the winmer because of the speed that deflector shields gave to the X-wing.
Because if we follow that logic then put the X-wing against the MiG 25 that could sustain 3200 km/h or go to 3600 km/h (at the risk of melting it's engines), a plane designed to come flying, drop a missile and dissapear.
all true, although I would use the f-35 instead of the Su-57 since the latter is way worse than what the Russians said it would be.
@@thephantomidiot3620 honestly, you could pick any fighter made in the last 35 years and the point would stand, because all of them were made to fight beyond visual range. In the Soviet case, a MiG 29 or Mig 35 would achieve the same as the Raptor but without stealth, or the F-15/Rafale from the Nato side. In the case of the later MiGs, those planes probably have enough handling to get behind the X-wing and dogfight with it, nevermind that they have AA missiles as their main gun.
The F-22 has a substantial range advantage and speed. Even what you've said, I don't feel the X wing is that fast. You also forgot about the vector engine that the F-22 has which allows it to quickly get on the tail of an enemy craft.
I wholely disagree with you. I think the F-22 would win, if not hands down.
I recommend you do a little more research into your Versus. You assumed a lot about the F-22, and didn't go into a lot of detail about it's weapons. You didn't even know the range of it's missiles.
Even with the X wing's shields, the missiles of the F-22 I believe could still destroy it.
That is so true. I always do my research before I say anything.
I tend to disagree with the conclusion you reached in the video. A study I found a while ago put handheld blaster bolt speed at around 100km/h. While a ship would undoubtedly have faster bolts, I am not inclined to believe it would be higher than Mach 1. This is supported by the fact that there is never a sonic boom produced by the bolts. In addition, the x-wing, or indeed other fighters, never show an ability to move at supersonic speeds in the atmosphere either. The friction produced at 44000km/h would quickly deplete whatever powers the shields as well, making such speeds impossible for sustained periods. The X-wings engines are also optimized for space travel and as such cannot move faster than Mach 1 regardless of it's aerodynamic profile. This taken into account, the f22 can just fly out of the x-wings range, and then fire from beyond visual range, destroying the ship with impunity.
I think the 20mm gatling gun can slip right through the deflector shields, and penetrate the armor of the x-wing.
@@MUI_Shaggy01 very true.
well said and true.
ODST vs clone commandos!
thats a bit unfair the real match up would be a squad of arc troopers vs a squad of odsts
the more fair match up would be spartan 3s vs the clone commandos
trooper gio they would all be a good matchup. I think the spartans would destroy the troopers so that's why I would think the ODST would be a better match up. ODST vs Arc troopers would be awesome!
Spartan 4s Vs clone commandos (both mass produced)
Red Rock Seven yeah that would be awesome too!
MC75 Star Cruiser vs. Vindicator Class Heavy Cruiser
I think the f22 will outmanuver the x wing for fun
Sagrotan guess what. A hundred G turn would kill the pilot.
Inertial Dampeners and such...there problem solved.
Too bad we've never actually seen an X-Wing do anything close to hundreds of G's, even when such a maneuver would allow the pilot to survive being shot down. The T-65 handles like an F-16 in the movies and an F-22 far outclasses an F-16.
With a good pilot a X-wing can literally turn a 180 on a dime and snap shot behind them, now that's in space so not sure if it can do that at full speed in atmosphere. F-22 can't hover, a X-wing can, it can also push off objects with it's repulsarlifts to make crazy maneuvers. We have no idea what amount of G's a X-wing is pulling tbh, it's never shown in the movies.
+Jed Haney in the atmosphere the X-Wing will be severely limited. It cannot simply do 180s without stalling. You really should stop and actually think instead of believing an X-Wing would win because its from the future. Vehicles are different in space and in atmosphere. And you say that an X-Wing can do a 180 on a dime but every time we have seen a dogfight in space, its more reminiscent of WW2 monoplanes fighting instead of actually fighting in space... you know, doing the so called "crazy maneuvers"? But whatever floats your boat.
Easy win for the F-22.
Remember that time an F-22 blew up the Death Star. Lol
C’mon dude, if X-wings existed they would be able to outmaneuver any of the F-22’s Missiles. They could fly much higher!!!
The reason Star Wars ships fight at such close range is because Star Fighters can outmaneuver long range missiles, making them obsolete.
It’s like trying to kill a fly by throwing a rock from 100yds.
The X wing is also capable of scanning an entire planets surface from sub orbital altitudes.
I’m not sure that stealth fighters would be of much use against it’s scanners.
The machine guns of an the F 22 raptor could not penetrate the particle shields on an X wing. Those shields can stop space debris traveling at orbital speeds (or faster) .
The time has come. Execute Order 66.
Emperor Palpatine You kill the jedi with Order 66, I'll execute hunger policies to kill all dissidents. Great minds think alike.
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Joseph Stalin Hmmm yes
The Senate has issued a vote of no confidence.
Ovni I am the senate
Do Noble 6 vs Spartan Locke or Death Troopers vs Spartans
I think Noble 6 is the only other spartan other than chief to be classed as 'hyper lethal'. Also he is a spartan 3 so the augmentations were more drastic than the 4s. Locke could win if he used his connections in ONI to research 6'a weaknesses and bad habits while fighting, but if it was a 1 on 1 without preparation I think 6 would win even without the more advanced armour.
Jack Sutton ya I believe 6 is a one man army and is specialized in fighting alone weither it's 1v1 or 1v30 but he just has more experience over all
It should really be the Royal Guard(red robed guys), legends vs Spartans
By locke you meant Team Osiris ? otherwise Noble 6 will have fun spilling locke´s guts all over reach.
how about noble ream vs fireteam osiris or master cheif Locke and noble 6 battle royal
Galactic Verses idea: The Galactic Empire vs The Dominion from Star Trek DS9
Jon Berry Dominion wins in two categories:
1. Military strength.
2. Most likable antagonist ever.
The Dominion is substantially smaller than the empire, though 1 on 1 I agree with the dominion likely winning . Jem hadar Vs Master Chief
military strength is questionable, but they are likeable
a squad of Jem'hardar would definitely take out a squad of stomrtroopers. The Empire probably loose on the ground, but in space, I think the playing field is more level; The Empire has more powerful ships, but they are less maneuverable.
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Star Trektechnology wins.
f22 Raptor doesn't dog fight, it destroys its target from miles away
Any other answer besides the F-22 won...is ridiculous...
Now I'll watch it.
The F22 can angle its engines in a way that the jet will remain perfectly horizontal and still move upwards at a 60 degree angle. Also there is angle of attack, radar power/range, and radar lock on speed, amongst other intangibles that need to be analyzed and stated before this becomes a fair fight. Also the stealth of the F22 may slow down the X-Wing's radar lock on speed.
Star Wars vs Star Gate Capital Ships? really want to see your views on it! :D
Arwing (Starfox 64) Vs X-Wing (Ep IV)
Or maybe
Arwing (Starfox Assault) vs X-Wing (Ep VII)
Both excellent and cool well-rounded starfighters and favourites of mine.
Ps thanks for all the awesome videos - I love your take on these matchups. Keep up the good work!
Covenant Elite/Brute Honor Guard vs Emperor's Royal Guard
I would like to see a versus of something from StarCraft series vs something from Star Wars specially a capital ship fight
Darth Vader vs The Didact.
Interesting
You're neglecting one major piece of information about durability. In the force awakens the Millennium Falcon a unarmored pretty standard ship took an insane amount of impacts with essentially no damage. To compare, we have tests of nuclear silo that rammed an f16 into the side and the jet was pulverized. Star Wars hulls are immensely more powerful than ours, leading me to think that the F22 would struggle against a TIE, much less any rebel craft
Tau Barracuda Gunship vs CIS Droid Gunship
Centurion class Battlecruiser vs Harrower class Dreadnaught
Gonna be badass!!
As an F-18 pilot, I must say, the X wing would lose this fight 10/10 times. The F-22, an aircraft that has won a 5v1 dogfight against 5 F-15s, is definitely, the most advanced aircraft, on this planet. Let's talk about how modern air-air combat works. Modern air-air combat is mostly BVR (Beyond Visible Range) and using missiles like, as he mentioned, the AIM-120C AMRAAM. The X wing, as he also mentioned, is based off of WWII fighter aircraft. In WWII, there were no air-air missiles, it was all cannons and MGs, which would of been close range, and since the X wings max in atmosphere speed, is 1000 kmh (subsonic), and the F-22 is not only super sonic, but capable of super cruise, aka, can go super sonic with no afterburner, the F-22 is gonna be in full control of were this fight takes place, and how it takes place. So, in short, the F-22 can carry 4 AIM-120C medium range AAMs, while the X wing can carry two torpedoes, which seem to be short range, seeing as the had to get pretty damn close to the little death star hole to fire, has no long range weapons, and the F-22 can simply run away, then fire an AMRAAM, and give this thing a run for it's money. Now let's say, fsr, the F-22 has to shot range the X wing. This will likely end up in a turn fight, and seeing as the F-22 is again, faster, hence, more energy, hence, more maneuverability, will be winning this turn fight all day.
Infact, let's run of scenario of this turn fight. Both aircraft have somehow magically ended up in a turn fight, and at first, the F-22 isn't going to fast, so the X wing, ever so briefly, has an advantage, and gets a chance to fire it's lasers, however, these lasers, having an incredibly low fire rate, hit... Nothing. The F-22 picks up speed and after about a minute, is able to lead the X wing enough to fire an AIM-9X Sidewinder, the X wing, having no missiles countermeasures, just kinda has to take it like a man, and it hits, but only damaging a single engine, due to the X wings durability. The F-22 was not expecting the X wing to survive, and did not prepare for this, however, after about 15 seconds, is able to lead the X wing enough to fire his M61A1 Vulcan.
Let's go on a tangent here, about just how damn good the Vulcan is. Ever heard of the GAU-8 Avenger, the gun on the A-10 Thunderbolt II that has a fire rate of 3000 RPM. Impressive right? 30mm, 3000 RPM. The M61 has a fire rate of 6000 RPM, over twice the avenger (the avenger is really more like 2900, so I lied, sry), and while the Vulcan may fire only 20mm, this is pretty damn impressive.
Back to the dogfight. The F-22 unloads about 200 rounds on the X wings, getting a couple of hits, one of which, say a AP-I (Armor Piercing Incendiary), hits the cockpit, penetrating the canopy, and killing the pilot instantly, another of which, say an AP-T (Armor Piercing Tracer) hits the area behind the R2 unit, and the shrapnel from the penetration, ends up in R2s little seat, damaging him decently well, although that doesn't really matter ATP, as the F-22s already won.
So yeah.
Particle shields.
@@brightlord-ov7cm Those were ray shields.
And also, laser cannon shots hit way harder than anything the F-22 has.
(No, AA missiles don't hit in the kilotons lmao.)
@@brightlord-ov7cm Yeah, because laser cannons easily hit harder than anything the F-22 has.
Simple.
@@brightlord-ov7cm U.S Navy lasers can burn into drones to shoot them down.
Congrats.
Meanwhile, some canon sources put laser cannon shots at megaton level.
Seriously, why do people think modern lasers even stand a chance compared to their sci-fi counterparts?
@@brightlord-ov7cm The most powerful manmade weapon is the Tsar Bomba.
Its energy is equal to 50 megatons of TNT.
A single shot from a rapid-fire turbolaser turret produces 200 gigatons.
Do you grasp the idea yet?
When it comes to manoeuvrability it really comes down to g-forces - I think it's safe to assume that both craft are limited by the pilot.
"Hey guys this is Eckhart Slaughter" lol. You sound tired.
7TH ATTEMPT
1.) Iden Versio vs Juno eclipse in TIE fighters
2.) Harrower class Dreadnought vs Halcyon cruiser
3.) Droid Super Tank vs AT-AT
4.) Rouge Shadow vs Millennium Falcon
5 Lucrehulk-class battleships vs the death star
King Crimson Rip lucrehulk
Wassermelonen Beschützer eh it should be close lucrehulk are well armed and plus 1000 vulture droids each
wouldn't the death star only need to deploy its fighters and laugh as it picks them off one by one?
Evan Murphy not really unless they have a small child slave as the pilot
King Crimson The Lucrehulks are very slow so at least 2 or 3 will die due to the superlaser and the rest will be destroyed from the 15000 turbolasers and the thousands of ties(One lukrehulk will almost certainly not launch its fighters)
something to consider is the X-wings size compared to the F-22. Its a much smaller craft so if they had to use guns, the X-wing would hit the F-22 easily while the F-22 would struggle to hit it with its canon.
Id also say the X-wing would be able to tank the hit of 1 missile with its shields probably more if it has the time to charge them back up.
The X-wing's shields would do nothing to stop a bullet because the shields are meant to stop a laser. And missiles are also from what I remember pretty new tech in Star Wars so they wouldn't be able to stop that as well.
The F-22 also has a lift, making it not only possible but also fairly easy to continue flying if it were to lose both wings, although it would lose maneuverability in the process.
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400 F-22 vs 10 T-65 X-wing would be cool to watch
The X-Wing can Hold 6 photon torpedoes!
for the F22: You forgot to mention the 2 heat seeking AIM-9 sidewinders it always carries for short range air to air.
But you are right about the X-wings sheilds, it could easily handle its self. The AMRAAM-120's carry a traditional fragmentation warhead that exploited in proximity to the target, it wouldn't be programmed to be close enough to x-wing before detonation and the frag would bounce off x-wing shields like bird shot. The AIM-9 on the other hand explodes in closer proximity, and its warhead sends a super hot alloy in a wide circular radius, which would help cut through and or overload the shields. the F-22s only hope would be multiple missile hits and perhaps the gun, the F-22's 6 AMRAAM-120c's would do far less damage than the AIM-9's and the 20mm Gatling gun. However the F-22 can fire all 6 of its AMRAAMs at once, not sure how smart the missiles are, and you would have to do allot of research to determine what the x-wing could handle with and without sheilds. i thin its hull armor alone without shields could tank 2-4 AMRAAMs easily depending on how close they detonate, AIM-9s and 20mm Gatling would do serious damage to an xwings unsheilded hull.
Hahah,
You truly have no idea what you're talking about
Wow, what an intelligent and well thought out response. Thanks for putting me in my place.
you're welkom ;)
Agreed. You also may want to brief yourself a good bit on modern air tech, or ask questions to someone who knows what they're talking about to avoid mistakes like with the snafu about the AMRAAM warhead.
For example; it's now becoming quite common for aircraft to detect ultraviolet as a countermeasure because countries are using it to "bypass" IR locking. Two countries including the US now have variants of their normal missiles that lock into a high UV signature of a target, and actively field these missiles.
Or while an F-22 may not have as astromech, its onboard PC and chipset is pretty powerful; many F-22 pilots have stated that they can swap info and screens almost like a media producer. Also current US and other certain countries use overseeing computers that detect and give real-time support of aircraft on the ground, like a hive mind. It's to the point that a ground controller can tell how much fuel and ammo a pilot has without asking. This has been going on since the later 80's and first fielded in places like the Top Gun Naval Academy.
Or even the Rafale, a non-stealth fighter has mini, powerful close range radar to detect missiles and other projectiles of smaller size launched at it. In real time, in all 360 degrees and angles. The system can vector an estimated route for the pilot to take evasive action as well. The Eurofighter has it too; pretty sure the Raptor would have something of that sort.
Or the fact that the Raptor sport AES phase radar, meant to physically resolve smaller objects at greater distances or a stealth fighter. In terms of its own detection, an old F-117 had the radar size of a sparrow, so who knows what the actual radar cross-section of the F-22 has.
The F-22 was also built as an air-superiority fighter, not multi role (it can function as this, but it's an afterthought. Hunting and intercepting fighters is its primary design. It also does not need afterburners for supersonic flight unlike most aircraft.
Lastly, the Raptor has a Vulcan cannon, not an autocannon. It's the same cannon used in both the F-16 and F-15 among other aircraft. Americans don't use autocannons on their aircraft anymore since the Reagan era.
While that's two cents in the tip jar, I do concur with others; please do more research. While I agree that those extra facts wouldn't have changed the outcome, it would've have ramped up the odds considerably.
Blueoriontiger While you do make some considerable contributions I really don't think it would "ramp up" the odds. The X-wing still has its particle and ray shielding resulting in it being faster and more durable. Whilst you do make some good points the F-22 is just ultimately outmatched by technology and physics in this battle.
@Sagrotan The fact that you and everyone upvoting such comments think 1 mistake makes the rest of arguments moot just shows the one lacking the commonsense here.
Mistakes happen, but most of the observations, give or take are accurate for the basis.
The X wing is designed to make a combat entry from space. This means it can repeatedly survive at least short atmospheric flights at tens of thousands of kilometers per hour.
The X wing has defensive shields. They can probably deflect radar too. No such technology exists for the F22.
The X wing has far more range than the F22.
If things go south the X wing can retreat to space at will and come back again. The F22 can't, nor can its weapons.
X wing victory hands down.
The APG-77 radar used in the F-22 has a range of more than 200Km and it's primary weapon has a range of 145Km. Due to it's stealth capabilities, the F-22 cannot be detected by the X-Wing using the radar, it has to be detected by its communications devices, sensors, or other electronic equipment, but this that is not very precise and it has to be very close. Before the X-Wing pilot knows that there is a F-22 somewhere near him, it has already been destroyed with a missile that was shot in less than 2 minutes ago by the F-22 pilot.
Fireteam Osiris (Halo) vs Delta squad (SW)
Yes. Basically Spartan 4s Vs Clone commandos.
Sounds about right.
any modern jet fighter would defeat an x-wing in atmospheric combat due to the better aerodynamics of the jet fighter compared to the near complete lack of aerodynamics of the x-wing fighter .
x-wing would have better weapons but would not be able to maneuver well enough to get target lock on the fighter .
Next video: F35 vs Wright’s brothers biplane
You underestimate stealth as much as Anakin underestimated the highground.
The f22 is ment to engage aircraft from 180 miles, the 120D is the modern version of the 120C and reaches the distance in 7 sec., Sensors scence they do not jam, it is also in legends by the way that the faster in atmosphere fighter in starwars topped out in the low 1200mph ranged, the f22 does that without afterburneds and it's top speed is well into the high 2200mph range.
Finally someone who knows something about f-22!
Go read my comparision of these two and come back.
X-wings can reach escape velocity, that’s over 40,000 kph
F-22 wins. First of all, the F-22 can only engage the T65 within atmosphere, so the engagement by default *must* be planetside. This works to the advantage of the F-22, being a more streamlined and aerodynamic design. Moreover, it posses the range advantage by standard with its missile armament, has extremely low detectability and can simply choose its position in a way the T65 cannot. The T65 won't even know the F-22 is there, and the air-to-air missiles carried by the F-22 will easily overmatch the T65's shielding. If the first missile doesn't get it, the second one absolutely will.
exactly, if it wanted it could easily launch all of its arnement basicly at the same time
not to mention the BVR capabilities of the F-22, most modern air to air combat is caried out without either pilot having ever seen their oponent, one gets a radar signal 1st, fires the apropriate msiles, the other pilot gets half a second to respond before the misiles kill is un-avoidable.
and when it comes to anueverability, at low speed the x-wing might have a slight advantage, but at high speeds in dighfighting the f-22s fire rate (100rps) makes its cannon so much more reliable
Dylan Wight These fights have both vehicles being in the visual range of each other. Both are able to see the other
@Bruce Jedi Lee: Sure, in an "all other factors being equal" scenario, thing might play out a little differently. However, the modal engagement is more likely to have the T65 at a significant disadvantage. The F22 is just too good from a distance.
Even if they're fighting VFR, the Raptor *still* has the advantage because it can choose its position far more acutely than the T65, for all its prowess outside of atmosphere. The F22 is simply the superior atmospheric combatant by a nautical mile (not a standard mile, no, that is giving the T65 too much credit, but a *nautical* mile :D ).
@Sagrotan: Turbolaser or regular "lasers" are directed energy weapons with little to know kinetic impact. The T65 has shields designed to absorb and disperse energy from plasma-based projectiles, but it lacks concussion shielding. A detonation from a basic explosive warhead will simply punch through the energy shielding of a T65 and either cripple or outright kill the starfighter.
Moreover, don't forget that the T65 was designed with off-the-shelf components you could pick up from any good hardware store. Astromech droids weren't standard issue as the T65 was deliberately designed to be flown by stick with farmboys whose experience is limited to the Star Wars equivalent of a trayback. My *phone* is more technologically advanced in software than the X-Wing.
Raptors are most definitely the more technologically advanced of the matchup. They're designed with stealth in mind and are practically invisible on microwave radar as well as infrared sensors. You *might* pick them up with a heat-seeking system, but such systems are very easily scrambled by onboard jammers (this is why heat-seeking missiles have so much trouble locking onto Raptors, even when pursuing from directly abaft)
The only chance the X-Wing has is to use its extremely low stall threshold and get in behind the Raptor. I reckon a single hit would know the Raptor out of the fight, but the Raptor's speed and maneuverability at high speeds still gives it the advantage in open air.
Sagrotan star wars sensory equipment has shown time and time again that it is at most equal to what we have have, and apart from the fact that they same powerfull enough to simulate sentience, there computer seem pretty lackluster too
Even modern day nucleair ICBMs are acurate to hit within 9m of their intended target, with how much easier steering something like a missile is in the vacuume of space, it would be a peace of cake for anny modern targeting system to hot that vent shaft on the death star, compare that to the several attemps it took the rebels, who only managed because of what is essentialy devine intervention...
And as mentioned before on this channel, blasters act nothing like lasters, the closest thing to the blasters in star wars would be magnetically propelled plasma bolts, wich would also make sence in the context that you could make force fields to protect against them, such force fields would have little to no effect on bullets or explosions, and they do prove to be highly in-effective against explosives verry frequently in the movies and star wars the clone wars...
What if the F-22 was starscream or something? Lol
6 guys in a row boat with an panzerfaust, Swiss army knife, and a bottle of wine vs both death stars piloted by drunken soccer moms.
Airspeeder vs F22 would have been a good match.
> AIM-120
> hits in the 100-200 kiloton range
wut
All A2A missiles carry relatively small high explosive warheads in the 40-50 lb range. 100-200 kt is 10x larger than the Hiroshima bomb.
I guess there's room for improvement :P
aim-120 depending on variant 50-180 miles
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I think the contrary, in a BFM fight, I don’t think the X-Wing can keep a sustained turn like the F-22, I also don’t think the X-Wing has hi-off bore-sight locking capabilities.
The X-Wing can only kill what it can see while the F-22 can launch missiles from outside of your range of site
F22 would usually carry 6 AMRAAMs internally and possibly four more using it's external hard points on its wings if they can afford to give up some stealth. Unless the X-wing can detect, track and shoot it at 100+ kilometers away it's going be in trouble.
Assuming both fighters are flying towards each other within the atmosphere at approximately the same altitude and speed, as they cross each others' radar horizons the best case scenario for the X-wing (if the sensors are as good as you say) would mean that they detect each other at about the same time. Since the X-wing does not have any beyond visual range weapons compared to the F22 which could engage straight away. The X wing would need to evade or take the hits from all 6 AMRAAMs while trying to get within visual range so it can win the dogfight.
Proton torpedoes only have an effective range of half a kilometer according to the star wars wiki if X-wings had any BVR capability than the rebels would not have would not have any trouble at all dealing with TIE fighters instead they have only been known to engage in short range dog fights. Also it does matter what sensors they have they cannot follow the curvature of the earth so it has to have a horizon.
Sure Star Wars fan your proof?
I love the " known to the public comment. "
Once an F22 was being shot by an X-Wing , the pilot can escape quickly , while X-Wing doesnt have these chairs with parachutes.
I love how most people in this comment section have no idea what they’re talking about. Lol it’s so hilarious. The X-wing wins all the way.
U completely butchered this one! First off, of course the Raptor's countermeasures would b useless against the X-Wing's lasers! They're for use against guided missiles like the proton torpedoes! Furthermore, u forget that the F-22 has advanced electronic and cyberwarfare capabilities, which it could use not only against the proton torpedoes and the X-Wing sensors, but could potentially knock out the astromech droid as well. Speaking of electronic warfare, if I recall correctly, the AIM-120 AMRAAM has a back-up home-on-ham capability. U also state that its range is in the dozens of kilometers. That maybe true for the initial versions but the latest can go over 180 km. Furthermore, fighters in Star Wars rarely, if ever, carry anti-missile defenses and/or countermeasures. In fact, I've only seen it happen twice. The first was in Episode II where Obi-Wan managed to avoid that concussion missile fired at him by Jango Fett, but even then he was simply ejecting spare parts canisters so it doesn't really count. The only other case was during the Second Galactic Civil War when an X-Wing successfully decoyed an incoming concussion missile. Furthermore, from what I've seen, the particle shields on fighters aren't very effective. Great example: Admiral Thrawn developed the Missile Boat, whose main weapons WERE MISSILES, to counter rogue Tie Defenders, one of the most technologically advanced fighters ever made and it did have shields. Then there's the fact that the X-wing can only engage targets in front of it. The latest AIM-9 Sidewinders (and by extension, most current generation heat seeking AAM's) have the ability to be targeted via a helmet mounted display, meaning so long as the pilot can physically see it, he can shoot it. Also, one thing that really pisses me off about Star Wars fighters is that they need to constantly "lock onto the target" in order to hit it, as if they were missiles. That's not how guns on real life fighters r aimed. U also over estimate how useful a repulsorlift is in combat. Yes it allows for VTOL flight, but that's it. It cannot b used to enhance agility in combat. There was only a single case of an X-Wing pilot doing so (it was in one of the X-Wing novels, can't remember which one). An X-Wing received a critical hit, disabling its engines. The only reason it stayed in the fight was because it used its repulsorlifts to act like a stationary turret, hovering just above the ground. The Raptors thrust vectoring nozzles and high thrust-to-weight ratio allow it to perform the Pugachev Cobra, which allows the aircraft to suddenly hover in mid air, causing a pursuing fighter to overshoot, leading the hunter to become the hunted. Finally and most importantly, the Raptor was designed to engage aircraft at long range while still being highly capable at short range. Most if not all Star Wars fighters r designed for the close in dogfight. 40's and 50's era fighter doctrine vs. 21st century doctrine, which would win? The answer is pretty obvious. The ONLY advantages an X-Wing has over an F-22 is the ability to achieve orbital/escape velocity, inertial dampeners, and its shields. The sensors MIGHT negate the stealth technology of the Raptor, KEY WORD BEING MIGHT. The new canon description of the T-70 X-Wing states that sensor-scattering ferrosphere paint was added to give some stealth properties. This sounds a lot like the iron ball radar absorbent paint used on the SR-71 Blackbird which makes me think that asides from range and having some FTL characteristics, the primary sensors used in Star Wars aren't all that different from modern sensors, which would make the stealth characteristics of the Raptor highly capable against most Star Wars sensors.
Jacob Katz out tech is nothing compared to star wars tech. We are nowhere near the capability of the things the have. The f22 is going to lose.
SSpider41 on wat basis? I think I laid out my arguments and supporting data pretty reasonably and clearly. Furthermore, my argument on the Raptor's stealth working is all but validated with this explanation on sensor technology explanation: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sensor/Legends
Let me debunk your whole argument. F-22's so called electronic and cyber-warfare capabilities have never been tested in an actual war between a nation that can really challenge the U.S. Sure it was used in some middle east conflicts, but against what? A shit airforce, with shit AA? The point is, all the U.S. can claim, key word claim, it's abilities. It's not a true battle proven aircraft as they say. The X-Wing however is a tried and proven star fighter, one that was used well on many years after the battle of Yavin 4.
Panzer Killer the POTENTIAL is there. Also, for all we know the Raptor has used those capabilities against air defense systems that Russia brought in to help defend their Syrian base. More importantly, u gotta assume that watever cyber/electronic warfare systems the Raptor has were thoroughly tested by the U.S. against our own systems so it's gotta b potent
That's the problem, tested against OUR own systems, not against systems used by pilots who fly star fighters built by a civilization millions of years into the future. Second, no, the F-22's have generally operated a fair distance away from Russian bases in Syria and even then the Russians know it's been flying their. They KNOW it has been their because clearly it's so called stealth wasn't good enough to prevent the Russians from finding out. If it's cyber/electronic warfare you want, X-Wing has that too. See that astromech in the X-Wing? Well, that little guy can perform or boost and even take over some aspects of the X-Wing. Simply put, the X-Wing has many great counter measures that HAVE been proven in COUNTLESS battles. It has a very excellent track record, while the F-22 only has theories regarding it's battle potential. Also, you really think that the U.S. Military won't use propaganda? I wouldn't put it past them to lie about some aspects about the plane, just to mess with potential enemies minds.
in earlier videos you've said the T65-B had 6 torps...
we still have no real idea how many it has?