I Bought a DEAD Flood Totaled Corvette ZR1 Super Cheap; but it came with a Big Problem...
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I brought home this Corvette ZR1 from Copart Salvage Auction Super Cheap. It sold for a fraction of what other examples would sell for but it came missing an integral part to help us get this car started!
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Matt Carriker from Demolition ranch is selling his C4 ZR1. Get in contact with him. It already runs.
You look like a professional .
Yall need to remind people during these Upside reads, it only works with PARTICIPATING gas stations. And those can be hard to find
I saw one Advertised not that long ago for around 9. Don't know if it was a clean title. Kind of wish I had bought it. You should probably call Alex to take this apart.
I wonder if this thing was a garage Queen I haven't seen those gatorbacks in 10 years maybe more & they look new
Sam,
Matt Carriker from the Off the Ranch and Demolition Ranch YT channels is selling his ZR1. You should give that cae a consideration for your collection.
Sam-That was an unabashedly brutal way to end the video: how dare you?!? That 1990's vibe from the vette must have awakened a cliff hanger ending to a favorite weekly TV series! Please post again soon.
He did it to us yesterday also.. or can be a blessing or curse . Viewers might return or not.
@@moosc On the plus side, didn't have to wait 3 weeks between videos 🤣
@@robertlowe9432 so very true..
Downright cruel. But I understand.
I literally just said: "You BITCH" when that happened. 😂
There are 15 different values in the VATS system (meaning 15 different resistors), if you try one and it's a "no start" it takes 3 mins for the system to reset before trying the next value. In other words it will take 45 min approx to go through all 15 values. If you do them back to back to back the system will never reset and it will never start. It's always one of the last values you try, just murphys law.
It's always the last value you try...
Hopefully he can get the proper resistors and pair up what he needs. He'll also need a relay to do it correctly or geuss he could use the easy way. I figured GM would be able to pull up the value with his Vin #, but maybe not.
@@STONERCREEK1 I was able to do that with my 2000 firebird that had the VATS style. The vin will give you the correct key cut (unless the ignition had been replaced with something different.)
@@mikeerin5031 unless you're an idiot and keep trying after you get the right value.. :P
Absolutely accurate.
I've been in the 12Volt automotive business for 30 years. You'll more than likely need the value of the original key chip to be able to disable the Vats system. I would think the dealer may be able to give you the proper value if they can run the vin, then there are multiple ways to disable it. If I can be of any help let me know. It's pretty simple and I'm sure there's plenty of info online. Good luck with the whole project!
we have a '91 ZR1 in the family, have owned it for over 20 years. I have disabled VATS, changed fuel pumps (there are 2) and done other light maintenance, and the car is driven regularly. Really excited about this series!
I worked as a gm mechanic for 20 years there is a special tool called a vats integrator that will tell what key number you need to get to cut off your master key that came with your new cylinder
Electronics have life. Amazing. Looking forward to the next chapter, Sam. Thanks. Back in the eighties, a locksmith was able to cut a new key from the VIN.
someone have the two keys
Only other thing you would have to tackle is, the key that unlock the full power of the ZR1. That is something to think about after you get the ZR1 up and running.
You're better than that Sam! You don't need to pull "Rich Rebuilds" kind of crap to get us to watch your videos!😂😂
Sam, as past owner of a very early 1990 ZR1, the interior looks great. I don't think the interior took much water if any. A lot of the interior didn't hold up as well as the drive train and chassis.
One problem I had that was recurring was the fuel injectors. I didn't drive it much as it was my toy. But I had to replace injectors a few times to get through emissions testing. Since it's been about 20 years now, I don't recall if it was the primary or secondary injectors that would stick open. I remember getting the injector rail setup for cleaning. But that didn't seem to help once the injectors started sticking.
Looking back at my time with the ZR1, it a fun car. The horsepower rating seemed to be very understated. Judging that from cars I've owned, before and after it.
That was a Cruel way to end the Video, You better have part 3 up tomorrow LOL
Have you dealt with vats. there are 15 resistor values. You can get a 10k ohm 15 turn pot. Hook to the first and second lead. Not the first and third. Clip to the original vats cable from the ignition switch so its can be unplugged and the resistance adjusted to the next value. Wait 4 minutes and try again. With that value you replace the ignition lock cylinder with a vats lock take the resistance value and the new plain key to the lock shop to cut the proper vats blank with the new plain key depths.
Dude, this one got me! Being a "Domestic" car fan when you turned the key and the screen obscured, I felt like the kid who didn't get their ice cream!
You're killing me with the ending videos dude. I say 65K on the odometer. I'm glad you drained the water and the oil was pushed up. Can't wait to see what happens!!
Matt from demolition ranch just made a video today about putting his 91 ZR1 up for sale. He had an extra motor that came in it that he might still have around. Worth a shot to reach out if you end up needing a replacement engine.
no Matt sold that original motor
I want to see more of the ZR1 looking forward to this series!
All that water, imagine how clean the inside of your engine is now 😊
When I drained my crank case after the flood, it was nothing but water gushing, and it overfilled my pan, I thought it was going to make a giant mess; however, since all the oil was on top, the oil was the last thing to come out and it displaced the water so I ended up with water spilling over and the oil trapped perfectly in the pan
You should get a golf cart with a toolbox on board to go from the barn to the cars with everything you need on board, chemicals, jump packs, jacks, drinks, and it can tow in a pinch. Saves lots of time going back and forth too.
Plus good spot to mount cameras on.
He could revive the pizza car for this duty!
Time for a second lift???? 🙂
He has (or used to have) a golf cart?
Or a mobility scooter - might be cheaper.
@@butterbeantx need more likes. Cmon Sam make this happen!
I'm not quite sure when GM started using those chipped keys, but I do know the ZR-1 came with two. One for "full power" and a "valet key" that turned the power down to half. So it may be possible that this is supposed to have the chipped ones.
They introduced chip keys in 1985, for the Corvettes they started in 1986.
@@ns5337 Makes me wonder if it will start without the chip then. I'm guessing not.
@@valengreymoon5623 yea only if you bypass the vats system. I have a 95 lt1 camaro and i kept my vats. You need to test the ohms on the key's chip and check the reading and match it to the the 16 keys they have to make extra copies of the key.
The valet key that inserts into the console disabled (or enabled) the 2nd set of fuel injectors. VATS is not applicable to that key.
I remember seeing on one at my dealership with a little plaque that said do not turn on in city driving next to the full power/valet key.
I like this project. Probably my favorite of all your content so far IMHO. I hope it works out well for you.
I remember reading in the early days of VATS a car audio installer soldered in a resistor of the proper value somewhere in the car in order to be able to install a remote start devise. That's something to think about if you don't want to order a new ignition switch once you figure out which resistor you need. You would give up any security the VATS offered though.
Thanks for all the great videos Sam! Love getting off work and relaxing with one of your vids :)
OK, ya got me. Waiting for your next vid with anticipation! Nice job!
Can't wait to see this thing run I have always had a thing for the ZR 1 the early ones can hardly wait !
I do absolutely respect you Sam you’re probably the first car guy I have ever subscribed to his channel! Although I’ve been avoiding your videos when they come out because of the endings it’s always a cut to make the viewers wonder for the next episode at end. I don’t know if you will ever pay attention to my comment but if you did please do consider we used to expect a video with the process of the day complete not just leave us hanging! With all the respect and love man 🌹
Seriously. Not a cool way to treat loyal subscribers. If you put out quality videos we will return to watch the next one. This isn't HBO. We don't need cliffhangers. I'm a bit annoyed.
@@moralchrtr It's all for the money.
@@moralchrtr facts shits annoying
You guys need to chill, Sam needs money to make this content.
You can't expect him to spend hours and hours of his time to make content for free. I am happy to wait, and eager to see his next video.
Quit your moaning.
Sam - ignore these guys comments. They're definitely a minority of your viewers, and obviously aren't accustomed to the fact that much of owning and fixing luxury cars is a waiting game.
@@Trenislife You're delusional.
I love the C4 ZR1, King of the hill was an apt nickname as it kicked everythings arse when it was new, Just wish Chev sent them to Australia, but we missed pout on this beastie,. You have to rebuild it mate, it is a modern legend. Top stuff Sam.
I love your video’s and your stories behind ❤❤ please never stop youtube Sam! ❤
Not all flood cars had salt water from Ian, central Florida had lots of rain water that flooded Orlando to nort port area.
3 vids in 4 days...yes you are on the right track !
You've done it again, leaving us in suspense. I love it.
My friend bought a 91 ZR-1 from a police auction around 2010. It had been sitting in their lot with the windows down for a while and it had about a foot of snow inside at the time of the auction. He still has it and he mainly uses it for track days and autocross
Is there a reason you didn't just go to the dealer and have them make a key from the VIN? I've done that a number of times and on older cars it's fairly inexpensive and fast. I recently did that for a 2014 chevy truck I bought from Copart. The chipped key was 50 and the cut was 50. The dealer told me how to program it to the truck. Worked perfectly. Then as I started cleaning the truck, I found a key under the front seat that would have worked! Darn!
Or pay a locksmith to come out for 100 bucks and do it. That's what I did. which included reprogramming new key fobs for my 2001
There is a reason, he's a moron who likes to fuck everything up
Just the time savings would have been worth the trip.
my first idea was this or a mobile smith. Last thing would have been doing what he did. Im all about easy
Sometimes people are so cheap it costs them more!
You could of paid a mobile locksmith $75-$100 for a new key with chip for your Vett.
Except without a old key you don't know what chip it needs. Still have to figure that out. There's nothing that tells you the resistance.
@@kalamazoo-Fcar Maybe it's different with the Corvette but my grandmother was able to get a new key for her 2013 Hyundai Elantra after she lost the only key she had and the mobile locksmith was able to cut and program a new key just from the VIN.
@kalamazoo-Fcar the old key isn't required. I worked 22 years at an auto auction and we received cars in constantly without keys. We had a company on-site that made keys including the ones that required the chip. They had the equipment to read the onboard computer to cut and program replacement GM keys. They made all of our keys with the exception of exotics. Most of those to include Porsche, required the vehicle be returned to a dealership and to include proof of ownership. And, Porsche keys ran 2K!!!
@@kalamazoo-Fcar they can test it on site and cut the key with the proper chip in it thers only 15chips. Its actuly just a resistor.
@@joe212 yes in the BCM you cant just meter the wires, so without a original key to read off of they can't know it, This is why you have to go through the trying of each of those resisters he had in his hand until you get a winner. I just did this on a ZR-1 I bought without keys. Even GM doesn't know what resistance you need they used to have a box that read the keys to make new ones but nothing to read the car.
I still remember my dad bringing home 2 different ZR1's from the GM proving grounds when I was a kid, a red one and a green one. Somewhere there is a picture of me sitting on the back of the red one, I need to find it! The C4 ZR1 was the coolest car of my childhood and I hope to own one some day -- even though any modern Corvette make the C4 seem primitive! Looking forward to the rest of this video series!
Very underrated car. Can't wait to see it run. Good call with the diesel in the sump. Check the intake and gas tank for water . Love the 80s style buck Rodger style interior in those c4's.
Good call on the intake. A friend back in college went through some water, but did not hydro lock. That is until he pulled the plugs, got the water out of the cylinders and then started it with water in the intake. Engine was toast, and we had just changed it the previous year.
Nobody ever underrated the ZR-1.
Happiness is an unexpected
Samcrac video 🏎💨💨
So awesome, my dream one day is to own a turquoise ZR1. Those GM columns can be confusing, but easy once you understand them. GM and Jeep used the same ones for decades.
Oh come on!! I was so keen to see the odo! This will be an interesting one, great vid as always.
I’m pissed that now I have to wait to find out the mileage 😭
What about the other oils like trans rear and power steering?
Great vid man keep up the work sam
Sam, keep up the great content!
Sam I'm always cheerin' for ya bud!
phok off for the cliff hanger ending... i was gonna come back for part two but now i feel like missing out just to pay you back for the that... enjoy the vids keep em coming...
Great ending! Checkmate. Keep this genius format at the end of more posts!
Why not go to a GM dealer with your ownership and VIN and have them cut a replacement key with the correct resistance? You are going to need a key for the 2nd “full power” key cylinder anyway. You should dump the diesel and try filling the crank case with some evaporust…your bearings have been sitting in a salt water bath for who knows how long. Love the color of your ZR1
Evaporust won't lubricate the seals... Could potentially harden it more... Diesel is oil based, which can assist in softening them, if they're not shot...
This non stop content is unlike you keep it up!
Can't wait for more on this Corvette!
The ZR1 is so damn cool. Glad to see it on the channel!
Can't you still bring your proof of ownership to the GM dealer and have them cut/program a new key?
You won’t have to program anything. All that “chip” is, is a resistor so you just have to have a dealer run the VIN and get the resistor value then they sell you a key with the right resistance. Or under the dash where the VATS wires are you can jumper the correct resistance resistor and leave it then never deal with it again. I had the VATS wires break in the tilt column of my 1989 Firebird and bypassed it all for remote starts.
Great gamble on the ZR1, can remember watching 2 of these go into a shredder in the early 90's, the cars were brought out to Australia to evaluate, after 1 year they had to go back or be destroyed, I believe it wasn't worth sending them back to the states so they both went into the shredder, one of the saddest things I've ever seen, Rj in Oz
My dad worked for gm dealer in the service department for a long time. my 99 T/A also has this vats system and for what i can remember for what he told me that 15 resistors are programmed for VATS. I remember him saying that 4ish of them being specific to the corvettes. i can double check with him but i do know people disable the vats system a lot on the older gm stuff. i know he still has a bunch of blank keys with the resistors in them somewhere cause the dealership got closed in 08.
Damn, you did us dirty with that ending Sam. But if you release new episodes every couple days it's easier to let it slide.
How much damage do they do to the bottom of these cars when they pick them up with the giant forklift?
I ask myself this every time I see it
I swear, you have mastered the cliffhanger video endings worse than network TV. Well done!
Oh yeah Sam, it is very easy to re program the VATS system, I have about 30 years experience and was a GM design engineer for the system back in the day. All that you have to do is..............
I'm more impressed by the ZR1 than the Ferrari next to it. I remember the uproar ZR1 owners made when Chevy made the rear end of a "normal" Corvette have the squared off ZR1 tail lights. At its time the ZR1 was the slightly more affordable supercar that caused jaws to hit the floor at its raw power. I hope you can bring this beauty back to life.
Will this project be finished, vote down below Yes or No 😅😜😜
Where’s the double thumbs up button? 😆
No😅
This ni g ga can't finish sh.i.t
Yes up here 😅
Nope
great videos Sam love the ZR1!
On C4 Corvette’s you don’t need the key to see the odometer. All you have to do is turn on the headlight switch and it will display the odometer.
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Are you shocked? YT is a censor's playground.
Does Sam stepmom have a TH-cam channel? I've seen her other channel and I still can't stand up
Oh my god, I’m salty right now!! I was sooo excited to see the odometer reading…dang you! Lol love your videos!!
Sam you’re killing me with the quick cut at the end😂. I have to tune in AGAIN. Ha ha
You got me. You got me good on that ending.
Sam I don't know when this happened, tho just get a new key (and Chip) from the dealer...and that will save you so much faffing with the security in time alone...And these quirky cars are great, this is something we can all really get into...There was a black TVR in the same lot I think...Definitely worth a shot, really pretty, reallt rare and quite fast (really fast with a few mods) great vid as always...
We got a C4 video in the end, it just had to be from you rather than from Rich. Big up, it looks great!
i love your videos - alot of good info and laughs... but bruh that ending.... OUCH MAN OUCH
Love these uploads sam!
Excited for this one C4 ZR1 is such a great car. First Corvette to really compete with the European supercars
Got to love a cliffhanger lol
You are intelligent. I will have to watch the next video, to see how many miles it have. Well done !!!!!
Sam is back. And his videos are better than ever. LoL
As i finished watching youe maserati video you upload a new one to keep me busy, lets goo
Enjoy!
@@Samcrac man you got me on the edge of my seat for the miles haha. I actually work at this location and i remember seeing this corvette definitely was a eye catcher!
I’m thinking it’s a low mileage car, due to the Goodyear Gatorbacks. I think it was ‘92 or ‘93 when Chevy switch to the Goodyear GS-C. So it may still have factory rubber.
the c4 and c5 corvettes are my favorite ones so this ought to be a good series.
That ending though.... You're killin' me!
I literally swore oh FO with that cliffhanger. People in the gym all started looking at me.. lol 🤣
Thanks for the video
lol Sam killing us with anticipation at the ending on these video haha
These cliffhangers are giving me a heart attack Sam.
Also funny how you go back and fort from a nice haircut to one that grew out lol.
It's got a factory radio... that's cool!
I'm digging the cliffhanger endings on this one. Good luck!
Watching your videos is like watching TV, always leave you hanging. I stopped watching TV In 2015.
Damn end of the video got me good 😭 waitin for the next video 👀
Sam, you foul for that one!! What a cliffhanger!!🤣🤣
ZR1 Engines were built by MerCruiser in Stillwater, Oklahoma.
You always get us with those cliffhangers
14:33 yeah I would have just called a licenced locksmith for $100 and got new keys made.
One thing about the water line in the engine: if it was parked nose down that would explain water in the engine and not in the interior...
Part 2 please! Such a cool car!
Great job.... Entertaining.
I SEE GREATNESS IN YOUR CHANNEL!!! Are you from Detroit??
Love the videos sam
C4 Corvettes are the only corvettes I actually like. My dad used to have a C5, but i'm a sucker for that square look
You need to measure the resistance of the VATS on the factory key and match it in order to turn over the ignition. So trial and error with the resisters.
If you go to a GM dealer with the vin number they will give you a printout with the exact resistance chip you need to make the car run. I believe there was 19 different resistance types
Sam!!!!!! How dare you??? This has to be the best cliffhanger ever in the history of TH-cam. Sheesh.
Brutal cliffhanger! Gotta see the next episode now!
Omg u killed me in the end. Hurry with VC part 2!!!! Torturing us all
Damn! You got me! I was on edge and you cut it, definitely wasn't ready for that lol