Great video! I've been professionally flying the Vision Jet for the last year and it is a great plane. Very capable, easy to fly and extremely comfortable for the pilot and the passengers. For 600-800 NM missions with pilot and 2-3 passengers, there is no better plane in the market! Just a couple of corrections: - The engine does not seat directly above the rear passengers, it's just the intake. The engine is 2-3 feet behind. - The avionics installed is the G3000, not the G1000 - Fuel burn at 31000' and 300KTAS is 60-65 gph On our G2, depending on the external temperature, we see cruising speeds up to 320 which is the maximum speed (Vmo). As a side note, the jet at 14:57 is the first of 14 SF50s delivered to Brazil.
I see a lot of, "would rather haves of different planes." The issue with that for some people is many of the planes people keep mentioning are more expensive to buy and operate. compared to the VisionJet. Someone mentioned they would rather have a Honda Jet, that comment makes no sense, not because the Honda Jet is not an exciting and better plane in many ways, but it is 3 times the initial cost of ownership and operating cost. It also does not compete with the VisionJet. People keep getting the plane confused just because it has a jet engine. It's not intended to compete against other VLJs. It's intended to compete against turboprops. It does very well in its intended market. A TBM 960 costs as much as $4.7 million to the $2.8 million of the VisonJet. Both are great planes with their own pros. If you want a plane but can't budget $4.7 million but you can do $2.8 million what is the problem?? The issue is people comment too impulsively very vague thoughts and no one knows the background of their whys. I prefer X over Y does not say much of anything.
Exactly, everyone has a different budget and different needs. What suits you the best may not suit someone else. Even the training costs are different depending on the engine and airplane.
The Vision Jet cost about the same as the Epic E1000 turboprop. Yet the Vision Jets is slower, has a shorter range while burning more fuel, has a rate of climb that's about a third of the E1000, takes a longer runway to take off and land and it's full fuel payload is less than half of what the E1000's is. So what makes it "excellent"?
You don’t fly in a tube. Comfort, space and luxury as well as outside view is uncompromising, and for short flights, you can’t see any difference, while having a much better flight experience.
@@xaviergirard1860 You don't dance in a plane, you sit. Maybe look out the window, talk with friends, read something or sleep. You can do all of those things in an E1000 for a lower price.
Besides the comfort mentioned above, the Epic don't have FADEC which greatly reduce pilot work. Also don't have auto landing and ballistic parachute for emergencies.
Adoro questo piccolo-grande aereo. È il massimo risultato col minimo mezzo. Concettualmente mi ricorda la leggendaria FIAT Panda che aveva come slogan "Se non ci fosse bisognerebbe inventarla" Se qualcuno me lo regala per Natale mi fa felice 😂
Not at all... you can fly it at 95 knots if you really want to. Normally in traffic patterns you will be flying at 120kt and being a jet the pattern altitude is 1500' AGL. In cruise, flying at FL310 you will be below most airliners and above prop general aviation, so 95% you will be flying direct to your destination.
I think people are missing the point of this plane. I don’t think it’s trying to be the next best corporate jet, but it’s by far the best personal and fun light corporate jet in this size. Yes, a Honda Jet is a million times better, but a Honda Jet is very clearly meant to be for corporate use. A Vision Jet is like a rich person’s supercar that flies.
As the jet has a range of 1000 miles, I think a bathroom might be in order. Or I suppose if you have to go, then land at the nearest airport. But I wonder how much more would a bathroom cost? I imagine the fuselage would have to be lengthened an extra 3-4 feet.
Good video , personally would not purchase one, mission ranges , 500 lb. load full , fuel burn, grounding issues 2019 safety, do not bode well compared with efficient Diamond DA 62, The PilatustTurbo props, or Pilatus Jets, if going to invest in a Cirrus, those would have to be considered, my thoughts only thanks for review. Wheels up !
Gotta work on that fuel burn. Sure it's relatively cheap to buy, but the operating cost per passenger mile is awful. The Cirrus burns 45 GPH vs 60 compared to the Pilatus PC-12 turboprop. But the PC-12 is twice the size, yet only 20 knots slower, with virtually no difference in usable airports, and has the most rock solid turboprop engine on Earth, the Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6. Pilatus wins.
The Vision Jet has an average hourly fuel burn of 50 Gallons per Hour (GPH). The Hond Jet burns 90 (GPH). Jet props burn 60 to 100 (GPH). The SF50 has a low burn rate.
@@MarcPagan I owned a Cirrus SR22T for six years and just sold it (ordered from the factory). My next plane is a Velocity XL and will use a Continental TSIO 550-C. That engine should easily scoot the Velocity to 260kts cruise on about an 18 gph burn. Instead of fishing around in these certified very expensive monsters...you might want to talk a look at the Velocity. It will cost me about $450k out the door when done (new build). And fly as fast as a jet-prop. Full Garmin glass, four seats.
@@jonasbaine3538 It is possible but the company is not offering one. A BRS chute requires anchoring it at hard points around the airframe. Velocity is a fiberglass plane so to design in a chute would be a big change for them.
500lb usable payload with full fuel? Even though it is my dream aircraft, At the price tag of about 3 million dollars, I will continue flying the Cirrus SR22.
Have doubts. The intake is not clear, especially with nose pulled, favor for flame out, only one engine........timne will tell how often engine failure is. Anybody got the numbers?
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I think the Piper PA47 looks great. The Visionjet looks like a guppy or tadpole. Why would anyone think the Visionjet looks better than the Piper? 311 max cruise speed, but burns 80gph at 300 kts? There are a lot of turboprops with similar performance using less fuel and having more internal space.
It does not burn 80gph at 300kts. It's more like 60-65 gph at 31000', at MCT (maximum continuous thrust), flying at 300-320 kts, depending on the external temperature.
The PA 47’s windows look very weird and the engine looks like it was just stuck on there without much thought put into it. It looks like a failed photoshop.
Many aircraft don't have any anti ice systems, other than a heated pitot mast so they don'tinadvertantly stall. This aircraft has a system that hopefully will get you back out of the unexpected icing
Initial cost and its operating cost is actually less than a TBM 940. Also, two safety features no other plane has, although the TBMs due have an auto-land feature from what I understand. There are pros and cons to everything. You seem to only have thought about the cons while excluding the pros.
Correct me if I am wrong, but that engine doesn't look efficient. The air intake duct is too narrow and the air outlet has a downwards angle, meaning the plane will have a tendency to pitch up. Thought I'd mention it.
@@abababa7483 Laughing. The Cirrus jet took 11 years to design and bring to market. The design has won numerous awards including the Collier trophy. It is the ONLY single engine commercial business jet in existence and does have an optional bathroom. Wholly made from carbon fiber (aluminum flaps) and even has an all airframe BRS parachute like other Cirrus aircraft. The selection of a V tail to enable the single jet engine exhaust is elegant and the access to the engine is very maintenance friendly. The engine is the Williams FJ33-5A turbofan with full FADEC control. It generates 2,000 lbs of thrust and a 6 to 1 thrust ratio at 48gph burn in standard cruise. The engine comes from a family of engines with over 10 million hours of proven performance. Williams jet engines power all the Cessna and Beech business jets. The angle of the engine is to increase thrust vector efficiency. The aircraft contains state of the art control too. It has auto-throttle, auto-landing, and onboard realtime weather radar. It uses a hot boot for de-icing and TKS fluid to clear the windshields. And has a touch-screen glass panel interface making entering data much easier than twisting knobs. Check it out: bityl.co/Bid9
Stuck at Mach .5, Vision jet has low performance on all levels, never reaching effectve jet speeds....buy one for the glory of a jet but expect below turboprop efficiency & performance
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According to the narrators discription of the "Safe Return Autoland System", just goes to prove that the lives of people with $$$$ are more important then those without.
Tom, the price of the auto land system has nothing to do with the "importance" of a person. People with higher incomes or more savings certainly have more options and access to things than less affluent people do. There is no economic system in the world where this is not true. In countries such as Cuba, where everyone is "equal", it doesn't take long to see that the gov't officials are the ones who enjoy the improved options and access. And for a country with such a wealth of natural resources and human potential, it is that system which makes all these "equal" people so poor.
I can't afford a plane , hell I can't afford flight training but I come here just to keep the dream alive
Get a private pilot license, average is around 250/hour with instruction. Y
ou will need around 60-70 hours which is the national average.
@@jhamesalmeda9961 still savings up for that, the plan is to start next year
join a flying club. in mine i only pay when i use the plane. no monthly fees
@@peacemoyo8630 yes sir that’s the way to go you save so much money when you can fly more often learning things
You can afford it. Do a groundschool online then hire an instructor by the hour. Get 2 hours a month, and you'll have your license within a year.
Great video!
I've been professionally flying the Vision Jet for the last year and it is a great plane. Very capable, easy to fly and extremely comfortable for the pilot and the passengers. For 600-800 NM missions with pilot and 2-3 passengers, there is no better plane in the market!
Just a couple of corrections:
- The engine does not seat directly above the rear passengers, it's just the intake. The engine is 2-3 feet behind.
- The avionics installed is the G3000, not the G1000
- Fuel burn at 31000' and 300KTAS is 60-65 gph
On our G2, depending on the external temperature, we see cruising speeds up to 320 which is the maximum speed (Vmo).
As a side note, the jet at 14:57 is the first of 14 SF50s delivered to Brazil.
Paint it green and it'll look just like a 70s Pacer!
Diamond D Jet reminds me of an Early Jet Fighter from the 50's :3
I see a lot of, "would rather haves of different planes." The issue with that for some people is many of the planes people keep mentioning are more expensive to buy and operate. compared to the VisionJet. Someone mentioned they would rather have a Honda Jet, that comment makes no sense, not because the Honda Jet is not an exciting and better plane in many ways, but it is 3 times the initial cost of ownership and operating cost. It also does not compete with the VisionJet. People keep getting the plane confused just because it has a jet engine. It's not intended to compete against other VLJs. It's intended to compete against turboprops. It does very well in its intended market. A TBM 960 costs as much as $4.7 million to the $2.8 million of the VisonJet. Both are great planes with their own pros. If you want a plane but can't budget $4.7 million but you can do $2.8 million what is the problem?? The issue is people comment too impulsively very vague thoughts and no one knows the background of their whys. I prefer X over Y does not say much of anything.
Exactly, everyone has a different budget and different needs. What suits you the best may not suit someone else. Even the training costs are different depending on the engine and airplane.
@@BassAnywhere Precisely, there are a LOT of things to consider and variables that people exclude in their impulse responses.
At Sun n Fun it was listed at $3.5 million.
@@annsheridan12 wow
Relax, most of those who comment dont even have a pilot's license hence most of it just "wishing" not a real interest.
Ryan.
This Cirrus is awesome.
A starting point, dear.
The Vision Jet cost about the same as the Epic E1000 turboprop. Yet the Vision Jets is slower, has a shorter range while burning more fuel, has a rate of climb that's about a third of the E1000, takes a longer runway to take off and land and it's full fuel payload is less than half of what the E1000's is. So what makes it "excellent"?
You don’t fly in a tube.
Comfort, space and luxury as well as outside view is uncompromising, and for short flights, you can’t see any difference, while having a much better flight experience.
@@xaviergirard1860 You don't dance in a plane, you sit. Maybe look out the window, talk with friends, read something or sleep. You can do all of those things in an E1000 for a lower price.
Besides the comfort mentioned above, the Epic don't have FADEC which greatly reduce pilot work. Also don't have auto landing and ballistic parachute for emergencies.
I like them, but if I was that rich I would try to get a Honda Jet.
This aircraft is true engineering innovation and ingenuity!!
Cirrus vision jet is Soo beautiful and awesome.
Both the Vision and the Honda Jet are perfectly good for a personal business or pleasure
The two don't even compare period.
The Honda jet is on a whole different level and cost about $4MM more.
I would say the HJet is better for business, but the Vision Jet is really good as a personal aircraft.
I'll just come ride in yours 😅
The Piper PA-47 is a good looking airplane.
Adoro questo piccolo-grande aereo. È il massimo risultato col minimo mezzo. Concettualmente mi ricorda la leggendaria FIAT Panda che aveva come slogan "Se non ci fosse bisognerebbe inventarla"
Se qualcuno me lo regala per Natale mi fa felice 😂
It’s an interesting aircraft for ATC to deal with. Too fast in pattern with props but to too slow in traffic with the turbo and jets.
Not at all... you can fly it at 95 knots if you really want to. Normally in traffic patterns you will be flying at 120kt and being a jet the pattern altitude is 1500' AGL. In cruise, flying at FL310 you will be below most airliners and above prop general aviation, so 95% you will be flying direct to your destination.
This plane looks like a copy of the "heinkel 162 salamander" .
Have you seen the FLARIS LAR 01? That is a beautiful personal jet? and at only 1.5 mil!!!!
I think people are missing the point of this plane. I don’t think it’s trying to be the next best corporate jet, but it’s by far the best personal and fun light corporate jet in this size. Yes, a Honda Jet is a million times better, but a Honda Jet is very clearly meant to be for corporate use. A Vision Jet is like a rich person’s supercar that flies.
As the jet has a range of 1000 miles, I think a bathroom might be in order. Or I suppose if you have to go, then land at the nearest airport. But I wonder how much more would a bathroom cost? I imagine the fuselage would have to be lengthened an extra 3-4 feet.
I saw a video review just a day or so ago showing the G2 has the availability to have one installed with the removal of one of the passenger seats.
Bring a soda bottle. Just make sure the pilot doesn't a barrel roll while your going
Why not buy a TBM instead? It's faster and cheaper to operate.
It’s George Jetson it’s still a good aircraft
Very good looking.
Price ?
Just saw one of these take off and was wondering what it was
The airplane is very impressive!
Good video , personally would not purchase one, mission ranges , 500 lb. load full , fuel burn, grounding issues 2019 safety, do not bode well compared with efficient Diamond DA 62, The PilatustTurbo props, or Pilatus Jets, if going to invest in a Cirrus, those would have to be considered, my thoughts only thanks for review. Wheels up !
The SF50 is a fraction of the price of the Honda Jet or the Pilatus. It is even cheaper than most jet-props. Its operating cost is as lower.
@@speedomars It's also half the size. LOL
Not to mention slower than the E1000 , half payload , climb rate 1865 ft/min ,E1000 40000 ft/min
Gotta work on that fuel burn.
Sure it's relatively cheap to buy, but the operating cost per passenger mile is awful.
The Cirrus burns 45 GPH vs 60 compared to the Pilatus PC-12 turboprop.
But the PC-12 is twice the size, yet only 20 knots slower, with virtually no difference in usable airports, and has the most rock solid turboprop engine on Earth, the Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6. Pilatus wins.
The Vision Jet has an average hourly fuel burn of 50 Gallons per Hour (GPH). The Hond Jet burns 90 (GPH). Jet props burn 60 to 100 (GPH). The SF50 has a low burn rate.
@@speedomars Yep.....thanks for the stats on some great planes...I'm a former airline pilot, and would love to fly them all :) Cheers.
@@MarcPagan I owned a Cirrus SR22T for six years and just sold it (ordered from the factory). My next plane is a Velocity XL and will use a Continental TSIO 550-C. That engine should easily scoot the Velocity to 260kts cruise on about an 18 gph burn. Instead of fishing around in these certified very expensive monsters...you might want to talk a look at the Velocity. It will cost me about $450k out the door when done (new build). And fly as fast as a jet-prop. Full Garmin glass, four seats.
@@speedomars is a brs parachute possible on velocity?
@@jonasbaine3538 It is possible but the company is not offering one. A BRS chute requires anchoring it at hard points around the airframe. Velocity is a fiberglass plane so to design in a chute would be a big change for them.
Can you fly the vision jet with a ppl?
Where can I dry lease one?
good aircraft , please make a video of Piaggio p180 avanti ❤
500lb usable payload with full fuel?
Even though it is my dream aircraft, At the price tag of about 3 million dollars, I will continue flying the Cirrus SR22.
That's recommended weight but it can lift more than that. If you don't need every ounce of fuel it can lift 1200 lbs that's alot.
Love love
Bonito avión para volar VMC ,no me gustaría tener una falla del único motor en vuelo nocturno
Hmmm, at over 2.5 million dollars US for a used aircraft I think you and I have a very different idea about what constitutes “affordable”.
I’ll take the Honda Jet
That jet is cool
Speaking toward a Toyota GR86: I'll take the LaFerrari.
Over 700 sold, today’s price 3.5 million.
for $500,000 more, Ide buy a Alice Electric plane over this one.
@@Perich29Nice. Pay more for slower, lower, and less range.
MUITO LINDO O AVIÃO DECE MODELO TOPE DEMAIS
Slow for a jet and Range is Limited, and Needs a long Runway. A high end Turboprop is a better choice
even Swiss001 loves this aircraft :D
One million dollars.....
And no toilet....
Sounds good to me.
Have doubts. The intake is not clear, especially with nose pulled, favor for flame out, only one engine........timne will tell how often engine failure is. Anybody got the numbers?
In 2024 about 600k hours accumulated and 0 fatal accidents
I want one
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That cabin has to be loud af
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Nice
The parachute has failed several times.
4 million almost.. no prob
I’d much rather have a m600 from piper then this thing
So who actually owns the company today ?
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Don’t forget ‘shot field’
SR22 was a knockoff of the TTx?? I think you got that backwards chief. SR22 was first.
Parece una bomba alemana V1
Ok the rithum at the begging of the video I thought I knew it and I did it come a song for the artist neffex and the song name is that's what it takes
I think the Piper PA47 looks great. The Visionjet looks like a guppy or tadpole. Why would anyone think the Visionjet looks better than the Piper?
311 max cruise speed, but burns 80gph at 300 kts? There are a lot of turboprops with similar performance using less fuel and having more internal space.
It does not burn 80gph at 300kts. It's more like 60-65 gph at 31000', at MCT (maximum continuous thrust), flying at 300-320 kts, depending on the external temperature.
Eh..okay. Then i like the He 162 more than the Piper PA47 ;-)
The PA 47’s windows look very weird and the engine looks like it was just stuck on there without much thought put into it. It looks like a failed photoshop.
I will stick with my F15
Maverick, that's not your plane, that plane belongs to the tax payers.
No thanks, I’ll drive. Unless Piper brings back their jet. Cessna, just the Honda civc of the sky’s.
Sebutannya bukan tutup
Love the Jet, do not like it being owned by China.
"certified flight into unknown icing" pretty sure any plane has that
Bruh u trolling? Go try to fly a 172 into icing… let me know how u do
Many aircraft don't have any anti ice systems, other than a heated pitot mast so they don'tinadvertantly stall.
This aircraft has a system that hopefully will get you back out of the unexpected icing
Sounds like the Chinese Jet"
I've never understood why somebody would buy this instead of a turbo prop. Not a lot of advantages and you lose access to a bunch of AirPorts
Initial cost and its operating cost is actually less than a TBM 940. Also, two safety features no other plane has, although the TBMs due have an auto-land feature from what I understand. There are pros and cons to everything. You seem to only have thought about the cons while excluding the pros.
@@terrarecon perhaps. Still I'm not completely convinced.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but that engine doesn't look efficient. The air intake duct is too narrow and the air outlet has a downwards angle, meaning the plane will have a tendency to pitch up. Thought I'd mention it.
You are wrong.
@@speedomars Are you sure?
@@abababa7483 400 flyig and 600 on backorder say so.
@@speedomars So you are not very sure. That hunch at the roof of the plane doesn't help with air getting to the engine either.
@@abababa7483 Laughing. The Cirrus jet took 11 years to design and bring to market. The design has won numerous awards including the Collier trophy. It is the ONLY single engine commercial business jet in existence and does have an optional bathroom. Wholly made from carbon fiber (aluminum flaps) and even has an all airframe BRS parachute like other Cirrus aircraft. The selection of a V tail to enable the single jet engine exhaust is elegant and the access to the engine is very maintenance friendly. The engine is the Williams FJ33-5A turbofan with full FADEC control. It generates 2,000 lbs of thrust and a 6 to 1 thrust ratio at 48gph burn in standard cruise. The engine comes from a family of engines with over 10 million hours of proven performance. Williams jet engines power all the Cessna and Beech business jets. The angle of the engine is to increase thrust vector efficiency.
The aircraft contains state of the art control too. It has auto-throttle, auto-landing, and onboard realtime weather radar. It uses a hot boot for de-icing and TKS fluid to clear the windshields. And has a touch-screen glass panel interface making entering data much easier than twisting knobs. Check it out: bityl.co/Bid9
Stuck at Mach .5, Vision jet has low performance on all levels, never reaching effectve jet speeds....buy one for the glory of a jet but expect below turboprop efficiency & performance
for $3.5 Million for that plane, I'de buy a Alice electric plane which is $500,000 more and have all electric plane.
The only thing maintenance friendly are the seats. The rest of the plane is an engineered flying turd.
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I at least have a private car
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It is super ugly. I can't get past that. That being said, I can't afford it so I will stick with my 182.
No bathroom
Looks unstable. It is also ugly a bit. 😂
Cool airplanes with (some of them) sporting ugly paint jobs.
3 mil? GTFO 🤣
According to the narrators discription of the "Safe Return Autoland System", just goes to prove that the lives of people with $$$$ are more important then those without.
Safe Return is a perfect product. If it malfunctions, nobody left alive to file a law suit
Tom, the price of the auto land system has nothing to do with the "importance" of a person. People with higher incomes or more savings certainly have more options and access to things than less affluent people do. There is no economic system in the world where this is not true. In countries such as Cuba, where everyone is "equal", it doesn't take long to see that the gov't officials are the ones who enjoy the improved options and access. And for a country with such a wealth of natural resources and human potential, it is that system which makes all these "equal" people so poor.
Lindíssimo!
Bullshit!
na its too slow , payload is terrible 485lbs , i would rather have an Epic E1000 and not mention the fuel burn