After waiting for the day you finally start to live your life, before you know it, you're 30 and it is the first time you feel the weight of all the things you didn't do and all the time you've wasted. So start then! Start now! - and boy does it sting! It happens again at 40 but after that, in a sense, yoou run out of decades because you start to age so fast. At 45, 50, 55, 60... it hits you, over and over, all the things you didn't do, all the regret and guilt and self-loathing. People like to say "its never too late" but for some things, it is, it just is. You're too old or weak or ill or tired, right? But what matters is, try, do what you can, claw at the void for some mote of joy and hold it tight as you can, in that shadowy fist. You may have wasted time, wasted your life, but while you're alive, by any measure, seize something for yourself.
Thanks. Beeing at a point were it stings - but unfortunately trying to just ignore it - this was a nice read. Still think one has to find a certain kind of contentment in the face of "having wasted" once live. Even when the drive is the goal (instead of reaching a certain a place) there will be the reflection of "couldn't I have driven further?". Maybe the best is to anticipate the self loathing that comes with age. If you have a drive, there will always be the possibility of thinking "why didn't I cover more distance?". The answers ist... just look again at the street in front of you and keep driving.
I do gardening, but I have no idea if it is anything of interest to anybody else. My siblings visit sometimes and their children will inherit the place, but so far I haven't noticed them enjoying plants that much. My garden does not have much of a plan (goal) either, so it will never be "finished". I do this for an interest in plants (botany), not to create a fantastic garden with harmonized plant selection. Nature messes up the growth of plants often. Animals munch entire plants and hard weather may also kill them. The whole thing is more failure than achievement for me. Sometimes I get really frustrated, but so far I have gotten over it and been able to tap back into the being in the moment enjoyment. Nature gives positive surprises, too. New species pop up. And while weeding I notice things (ants, beetles, beautiful leaves....) that give aesthetic pleasure like no other. People who never take a closer look will have no idea of this. I also get to hear all the fascinating sounds of nature, wind, rain, birds, buzzing bees. Every now and then I wonder if I'm just selfish as I waste my time this way. Will somebody one day enjoy the spruce I planted (without knowing it was PLANTED in the first place and not just put in its place by Nature)? I don't know. This may be just my way of surviving everyday life.🤔
@@brendanstanley9323 the goal can be anything, e.g. building a house, gaining specific knowledge, obtaining new professional qualifications, it is important that the goal is ambitious but achievable, so that we have the feeling that we are making progress all the time
@@brendanstanley9323 the goal can be anything, e.g. building a house, gaining specific knowledge, obtaining new professional qualifications, it is important that the goal is ambitious but achievable, so that we have the feeling that we are making progress all the time
So far I haven't had much interest in the school of psychoanalysis, but Lacan seems interesting to me so maybe my next goal will be to read all of Lacan's books?
the goal can be anything, e.g. building a house, gaining specific knowledge, obtaining new professional qualifications, it is important that the goal is ambitious but achievable, so that we have the feeling that we are making progress all the time
A man is never happy, but spends his whole life in striving after something that he thinks will make him so; he seldom attains his goal, and when he does, it is only to be disappointed; he is mostly shipwrecked in the end, and comes into harbour with mast and rigging gone. And then, it is all one whether he is happy or miserable; for his life was never anything more than a present moment always vanishing; and now it is over. Arthur Schopenhauer, Studies in Pessimism: The Essays
Maybe the algorithm is trying to say something to me given that I didn't sleep the entire night and am watching this at 7:30 am in a semi delirious state .
Yes, same here. I think the algorithm is content. Instead of dreaming about letting everybody know what they're after, it enjoys actually doing that and keeping us up. And down. And up. And further down. Etc.
I think our soul needs constant growth - sort of like a shark needs to be constantly swimming to breath. When we stop growing, we de-evolve rather than evolve. Some part of us recognizes this danger and alerts us with feelings of discontent or unease. We lose our peace. And how is this soul growth achieved? Through meaningful activity, like loving and helping others. This is how Victor Frankyl was able to stay sane during his imprisonment by finding whatever small ways he could to be kind and loving. Ultimately this is what our souls came to Earth to achieve: soul growth. And through soul growth we are more able to absorb the joy of life.
This reminds me of the Only Fools and Horses episode where Del Boy, a small time market trader, finally succeeds in become a millionaire (his cathphrase is "by this time next year we'll be millionaires") and retires, but becomes depressed because it was trying to become a millionaire that he really enjoyed, not being being one.
A true drive and purpose is simply the harmony between our desires and needs. It is not the source of enlightenment or meaning , but it is optimizing our expression of it.
I love psychoanalysis and Lacan is a genius. Everything you’ve said in this is true very true , and you’ve accurately explained and stated one of Lacan’s ideas
I think Daniel Denett summed it up quite nicely when he said the secret to happiness was just finding something greater than yourself and dedicating your whole life to it. In fact, it's quite striking that philosophers can differ wildly in their conceptions of things (Zizek objected a lot to Denett's theories of consciousness) or even in their political views, but when it comes to mundane advice, everyone gives pretty much the same ones. We all know what we "should" be doing. It's just that overcoming inertia and keeping going at it is not trivial.
7:30 “No, I don’t worry, let me tell you. I believe I’m a man who died twenty years ago, and I live like a man who is dead already. I have no fear whatsoever, of anybody or anything.” - Malcolm X
I can't imagine , nor accept myself as some undying , dedicated amateur in a self-rewarding activity of choice , as this Lacan's idea seems to suggest.
Dear Julian have you considered analyzing Peter Sloterdijk's book "Du mußt dein Leben ändern: About Anthropotechnik" in your course? In my opinion, it intersects with your series of practical philosophical videos
Those raised in pathological families, the dictates of the family--loyalty, obedience, willful blindness--are the main impediments to desire. Shedding those impediments means shedding that family, which is more heroic than resisting the seduction of success as outlined in the video.
Many varied reasons for procrastinating Viewing in Pakistan Fears self doubts Guilt Cause lack of focus This Waste of life There is a way out Msnyany factors involved Thnx for ur video I'm 48
If I recall correctly, Lacan was speaking to psychoanalysts when he said to "never give ground to your desire", and it was specifically the position of the psychoanalyst. Desire for Lacan is a structure that is not something easy to grasp, it is influenced by the Other, and it takes a lot of work to identify one's true desire - something usually done with a psychoanalyst. This cannot be some self-help. The process to discover the desire is in itself something that can be heavily disturbing. Remember he also said the truth of the desire is by itself an offense the authority of the law.
Money doesn't buy happiness (means contentedness). Dreyfus also talks about this one thing (leap of faith in teaching) - also about giving to others so it's not self-serving (drive as opposed to desire - not for status but for sake of meaning)
Being someone you'd admire, and acting the way you'd respect will create this never ending moments of fullfillment in my view. As long as you're on this path of trying to be the person you'd admire and trying to do the actions you respect earns you a lot, some of them are like: * You will be better than yesterday. Therefore you will have progress which is fulfilling. * You will have hope, because there is a meaningful tomorrow. * You will respect yourself, because you are serving what you find valuable So the answer is "who am I" and "what do I do". I'm working on a training that is based on "focus" and contains these philosophies.
Hey julian, the audio level has improved with this new angle but I find it to be less visually appealing than the old one, have you considered using a separate microphone for recording? Thanks for the video as always!
Very interesting (liked and subscribed). I think this describes where I am in life. I do things that give me meaning, and hopefully give something to others occasionally. I certainly don't do anything for money. Drive though, that's a puzzling one. There are some things I don't quite understand in life (money, gender rules, housing ladders, education ladders, the need for a constant bass beat in every space,....) and drive is one of them.
“It seems to me that one of the scary things about the nihilism of contemporary culture is we are really setting ourselves up for fascism. Because as we empty more and more values and motivating principles.. spiritual principals out of the culture, we are creating a hunger that is gonna.. eventually gonna drive us to the state where we will accept fascism. Just because the nice thing about fascism is they will tell you what to think, they’ll tell you what to do, and they’ll tell you what’s important.“ David Foster Wallace I love to live in the future when I can clash every thinker to one another ;)
I think the issue I have with your comment is that you say “we” empty our values, I’ve always thought that real “values” aren’t those we choose or don’t choose to believe in it’s more they are just assumed true without discussion. Also I don’t necessarily see how the emptying of values is a set up for fascism, why couldn’t it be a set up for reflection on why values moral and or “spiritual” values ring hallow for us? Where does this come from? Why is this as such? What does value even mean? Who decides value? So many questions, but I might be off on a tangent, it does not mean fascism though, that sounds more like an ideological thing than a genuine potential occurrence.
@@ivancleveland6393 You have verbalized my thought exactly. Sometimes I think that I need to post opposite thoughts to mine and wait for someone to do the work of verbalizing for me ;) When I encountered this thought I had the same objections to yours. But at the end I completely understand what David was trying to say. It is for me evident in the modern times. It is like on the grid of modern algorithmic solutions to everything are sitting neurological formats of a certain right sided dispositions. I just hope this concoction will not catch flame...Modern times do not edify and it takes time to position oneself in the middle of all of this...
I don't know man. This idea that there is some One True Desire that will make one's life meaningful sounds to me like ideology at its purest (*sniff*).
There’s a bit of a parallel here with Seth Godin’s idea about enjoying the process not the result because all you have control over is the process. Of course Lecan’s idea is a lot deeper and more profound and wider reaching.
Aristotle said that we should do stuff for their own sake and not as a mediums to an end Jordan Peterson says we should do something meaningful to ourselves and to others Lacan says we should live for the process It's interesting how they come up with very similar conclusions
Same with Eastern philosophy as well. It's all about being in the present moment and not clinging to the goal and the outcome. But simply...living and being.
According to the video, Lacan is precisely putting into question our desire for meaning, how can you say it's similar to Jordan Peterson? It's similar in the sense that they're both ideas about life? Well
@@augustoc.s.2455 Jordan Peterson explains how our sense of meaning works from a cognitive and jungian psychology perspective, Lacan explains it too but from a psycoanalitical perspective Peterson says no goal, no positive emotion by which he means if we are doing something with our time that is not oriented towards a meaningful aim that is valuable to us life will feel meaningless, Lacan would say that which is the highest aim is the object petit a and both Lacan and Peterson agree that the thing that makes us feel we are living a meaningful life is that struggle towards the heights of our aim Cause, what happens when you achieve a goal? You need another goal
To each his own. This exploration into lacan is making it easier for me to safely get in contact with my unconscious life, and saving me $$$ on therapy - I still have therapy for now but my own work & personal development / growth is richer. So as for ignore to each his own. Likewise some people ignore the Bible & religious conventions & are much happier
I think it was implicitly touched upon, but I wonder if we can get a more explicit critique of the C-suite types that embrace the drive of ever greater financial accumulation. First of all, is this embrace of financial accumulation actually invalid? If so, what precisely makes this drive "bad"? It meets much of the criteria: it's futile, can never be completed, and the chase can be the focus; though we hold up an artist's drive as loftier than the financier's. Can someone explain their thoughts on this? My best answer is that the pursuit of money is "invalid" because money is always the external reward to a process, whereas it's the internal rewards of practices that it is more apt to acclimate drive to.
Does it just have to be ONE thing that we dedicate ourselves to? I have a career in which I am growing and to which I am very dedicated; but also a hobby in which I am always growing in and to which I am very dedicated; but also I am very dedicated to my family. I like to think I am pretty good at all three- but admittedly it takes some clever and sometimes uneasy juggling. But I kinda like the mix there. Like they say: variety is the spice of life? What would Lacan say about that?
ok, but there is a theory of drives, when u plick one thing does it mean u have to develop one key drive? like through the lens of one key drive to see and do everything?
Dear Julian thanks for your great explanations. But if we should go under a transition from desire to drive why does still Lacan says we should be loyal to our desire? I mean why he doesn't say be loyal to your drive and don't give ground on your drive... I hope you see my question and answer. It is very important to me . Thanks already ❤❤
This is a great question! Ultimately desire is empty and, like a thirsty man in the desert, it is a mirage. As soon as we think we’ve reached it. And so the only way to sustain the illusion, and thus to remain true to your desire, is to sustain it through drive.
Is the Mathematician Ramanujun an example of what he is talking about? Ramanujun loved Math and that is the only he cared about. He didn’t desire to be rich nor famous.
I think the way you put it makes it sound like Lacan is a sharlatan selling some sophistic bullshit for people looking for easy answers to difficult questions. I think the formula of not betraying one's own desire does not say that desire is something seemingly so opaque and clear to us as some goal in life like "I always wanted to play guitar but never found the time to do it". We do mostly not now what we desire until we betray it. We do not desire to play guitar one day but we desire to desire it. The moment we betray the desire to desire play guitar one day and do not desire to desire playing guitar anymore, we betray all the dreams of youth and our innocence with it and become cynical business man who find such desires childish and naive, as if we need to punish our former self. Then slowly everything that has to do with guitar begins to bother us, music on the radio triggers symptoms etc. Or we betray our desire to desire to play guitar one day by playing the guitar one day just to find out that playing the guitar requires way more work than it did when we dreamt about it and all of a sudden we lose interest in playing the guitar and because we betrayed our desire a new symptom emerges: we want to play the banjo one day. This time, hopefully, we won't betray our desire.
@@MD-lf3gt It may sound contradictory, but one cannot visit all the countries of the world. To some travelling to places is having a life so they will consider that you have wasted your life because you have travelled to a few places. The same goes to other aspects of life. No matter whatever you do, you have wasted your life.
@@Pedro-s4k3y So you think that life is going to all the places ( impossible) and doing everything ( impossible). That is some weird shit. For me live is love for people, for art, for science, for nature. For finding inner peace.
@@MD-lf3gt Fine, that is life for you. However, the people who disagree with you will think that you have wasted your life in trying to find inner peace. The people who hate people will think that your love for people is wasting your life.
It get the idea to go from desire to drive. However, I do not unterstand how one might make one thing the thing to dedicate your life. There is more than 1, unless you use a lot of rhetorical skills to make different things to be one thing. So, with this numbers, I am not convinced.
I watched a video of yours titled “Women Do Not Exist.” I did not understand anything. Do you mean that a woman’s identity cannot exist outside the patriarchal system? Does this mean that it is impossible to form a feminine identity? And why do psychoanalysts oppose gender studies? Don’t they both believe that gender Cultural construction and why all this disagreement? I hope for an answer now, but I have never found a satisfactory answer
I’m struggling with the same thing! I found a dissertation written by Katerina Daniel that was really helpful, though I have yet to fully absorb it. It’s called “dialogues between feminists and jacque lacan on female hysteria and femininity”
A good video, but your phrasing about desire is confusing. At first you say Lacan says don't yield ground to your desire, and then you describe someone who wastes his life NOT pursuing what he really wants. Then you say if you DO pursue your desire then you end up in a situation where it becomes void because you get it. Then you get to the "replace desire with drive" thing. And then at the end it's again: don't yield ground to your desire, don't betray your desire. I mean, these are all different things. This is very confusing. By don't yield ground to your desire does Lacan mean do NOT pursue your desire? If so, why then do you say "don't betray your desire"? It would seem like Lacan is precisely recommending betraying your desire by replacing it with drive.
I think these are interesting questions. Perhaps people don't know what their desire is as in embodiment and embracing skills that brings about their desire, including how various life circumstances and situations can cultivate these skills unrelated to the desire itself. Thus this goes along with embrace your drive teaching / philosophy approach
jeez the discourse level is waay below what lacanian psychoanalysis was trying to do....do whatever simplest self-help ramblings you want but don't present it as lacan's thought pls.......
Dude, I didn't subscribe to listen to psychoanalytic versions of self-help nonsense. Thought to get occasional refresher on notion or two, because I'm familiar with most authors and works you're talking about here. I don't care what your follwers or patrons expect. There's no point in me explaing further... just a heads up.
Anyone some creative ideas how to foster an desire / drive? 😮🤔 Does the lacan view say something not only about the roots and dynamics of desire and drive but does it have practical implications on how one can stirr up his own desire/drive?🥸
Lacan for a reason and not Lacan't
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@@hotfuzz774Kant is crying
After waiting for the day you finally start to live your life, before you know it, you're 30 and it is the first time you feel the weight of all the things you didn't do and all the time you've wasted. So start then! Start now! - and boy does it sting!
It happens again at 40 but after that, in a sense, yoou run out of decades because you start to age so fast.
At 45, 50, 55, 60... it hits you, over and over, all the things you didn't do, all the regret and guilt and self-loathing.
People like to say "its never too late" but for some things, it is, it just is. You're too old or weak or ill or tired, right? But what matters is, try, do what you can, claw at the void for some mote of joy and hold it tight as you can, in that shadowy fist.
You may have wasted time, wasted your life, but while you're alive, by any measure, seize something for yourself.
My favorite TH-cam comment I've read in months.
Thanks. Beeing at a point were it stings - but unfortunately trying to just ignore it - this was a nice read.
Still think one has to find a certain kind of contentment in the face of "having wasted" once live.
Even when the drive is the goal (instead of reaching a certain a place) there will be the reflection of "couldn't I have driven further?".
Maybe the best is to anticipate the self loathing that comes with age. If you have a drive, there will always be the possibility of thinking "why didn't I cover more distance?". The answers ist... just look again at the street in front of you and keep driving.
@@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060 awww, thankyou. No idea where it came from, just kinda wrote it based on the video title hehe :D
carpe diem!
Wasted Time, that's a good tune by Soil & Pimp Sessions
I do gardening, but I have no idea if it is anything of interest to anybody else. My siblings visit sometimes and their children will inherit the place, but so far I haven't noticed them enjoying plants that much. My garden does not have much of a plan (goal) either, so it will never be "finished". I do this for an interest in plants (botany), not to create a fantastic garden with harmonized plant selection. Nature messes up the growth of plants often. Animals munch entire plants and hard weather may also kill them. The whole thing is more failure than achievement for me. Sometimes I get really frustrated, but so far I have gotten over it and been able to tap back into the being in the moment enjoyment. Nature gives positive surprises, too. New species pop up. And while weeding I notice things (ants, beetles, beautiful leaves....) that give aesthetic pleasure like no other. People who never take a closer look will have no idea of this. I also get to hear all the fascinating sounds of nature, wind, rain, birds, buzzing bees. Every now and then I wonder if I'm just selfish as I waste my time this way. Will somebody one day enjoy the spruce I planted (without knowing it was PLANTED in the first place and not just put in its place by Nature)? I don't know. This may be just my way of surviving everyday life.🤔
our "perfect job", "perfect life" is a fantasy, what makes us happy is action, striving for a goal
What is your goal?
@@brendanstanley9323 the goal can be anything, e.g. building a house, gaining specific knowledge, obtaining new professional qualifications, it is important that the goal is ambitious but achievable, so that we have the feeling that we are making progress all the time
@@brendanstanley9323 the goal can be anything, e.g. building a house, gaining specific knowledge, obtaining new professional qualifications, it is important that the goal is ambitious but achievable, so that we have the feeling that we are making progress all the time
So far I haven't had much interest in the school of psychoanalysis, but Lacan seems interesting to me so maybe my next goal will be to read all of Lacan's books?
the goal can be anything, e.g. building a house, gaining specific knowledge, obtaining new professional qualifications, it is important that the goal is ambitious but achievable, so that we have the feeling that we are making progress all the time
A man is never happy, but spends his whole life in striving after something that he thinks will make him so; he seldom attains his goal, and when he does, it is only to be disappointed; he is mostly shipwrecked in the end, and comes into harbour with mast and rigging gone. And then, it is all one whether he is happy or miserable; for his life was never anything more than a present moment always vanishing; and now it is over.
Arthur Schopenhauer, Studies in Pessimism: The Essays
Thank you. His essays have ‘saved’ my sanity many a time ……. My beloved first edition is falling part……
Maybe the algorithm is trying to say something to me given that I didn't sleep the entire night and am watching this at 7:30 am in a semi delirious state .
Yes, same here. I think the algorithm is content. Instead of dreaming about letting everybody know what they're after, it enjoys actually doing that and keeping us up. And down. And up. And further down. Etc.
Same here at 2.30 am
I think our soul needs constant growth - sort of like a shark needs to be constantly swimming to breath. When we stop growing, we de-evolve rather than evolve. Some part of us recognizes this danger and alerts us with feelings of discontent or unease. We lose our peace. And how is this soul growth achieved? Through meaningful activity, like loving and helping others. This is how Victor Frankyl was able to stay sane during his imprisonment by finding whatever small ways he could to be kind and loving. Ultimately this is what our souls came to Earth to achieve: soul growth. And through soul growth we are more able to absorb the joy of life.
This reminds me of the Only Fools and Horses episode where Del Boy, a small time market trader, finally succeeds in become a millionaire (his cathphrase is "by this time next year we'll be millionaires") and retires, but becomes depressed because it was trying to become a millionaire that he really enjoyed, not being being one.
Bwahahaha
Luv tht show
I think part of it was simply that the fortune was never achieved by the Trotters efforts and that it was simply luck
Acquiring Languages and Linguistics are my Drive ❤
Thank you Julian.
I'm havin a bad...day.
this was something that helped - while everything else seemed to do the opposite.
I'll take it.
A true drive and purpose is simply the harmony between our desires and needs. It is not the source of enlightenment or meaning , but it is optimizing our expression of it.
This is a wonderful presentation of Lacan’s view of life. Chase is life, not the achievement or external endorsement.
I love psychoanalysis and Lacan is a genius. Everything you’ve said in this is true very true , and you’ve accurately explained and stated one of Lacan’s ideas
I think Daniel Denett summed it up quite nicely when he said the secret to happiness was just finding something greater than yourself and dedicating your whole life to it. In fact, it's quite striking that philosophers can differ wildly in their conceptions of things (Zizek objected a lot to Denett's theories of consciousness) or even in their political views, but when it comes to mundane advice, everyone gives pretty much the same ones.
We all know what we "should" be doing. It's just that overcoming inertia and keeping going at it is not trivial.
A physicist or an anthropologist would probably give you the same advice, though.
7:30
“No, I don’t worry, let me tell you. I believe I’m a man who died twenty years ago, and I live like a man who is dead already. I have no fear whatsoever, of anybody or anything.” - Malcolm X
I can't imagine , nor accept myself as some undying , dedicated amateur in a self-rewarding activity of choice , as this Lacan's idea seems to suggest.
Thank you for those 8 minutes of pure wisdom
Dear Julian have you considered analyzing Peter Sloterdijk's book "Du mußt dein Leben ändern: About Anthropotechnik" in your course? In my opinion, it intersects with your series of practical philosophical videos
Those raised in pathological families, the dictates of the family--loyalty, obedience, willful blindness--are the main impediments to desire. Shedding those impediments means shedding that family, which is more heroic than resisting the seduction of success as outlined in the video.
Definitely 🙂.
Where did you get this horseshit?
@@faustoferrari4303 Freud. The return of the repressed is a helluva ride.
Many varied reasons for procrastinating
Viewing in Pakistan
Fears self doubts
Guilt
Cause lack of focus
This
Waste of life
There is a way out
Msnyany factors involved
Thnx for ur video
I'm 48
Nothing is wasted because nothing Matters!
If I recall correctly, Lacan was speaking to psychoanalysts when he said to "never give ground to your desire", and it was specifically the position of the psychoanalyst. Desire for Lacan is a structure that is not something easy to grasp, it is influenced by the Other, and it takes a lot of work to identify one's true desire - something usually done with a psychoanalyst. This cannot be some self-help.
The process to discover the desire is in itself something that can be heavily disturbing. Remember he also said the truth of the desire is by itself an offense the authority of the law.
The meaning of life is to be of service to others
So are ends in themselves just fantasies we create in order to make our means more bearable?
Yes!!
Thanks, Julian! This video really helped, and the explanation was very clear.
Money doesn't buy happiness (means contentedness). Dreyfus also talks about this one thing (leap of faith in teaching) - also about giving to others so it's not self-serving (drive as opposed to desire - not for status but for sake of meaning)
Dreyfus? what is the full name & maybe which theory or book?
@jenniferh.7219 oh Herbert Dreyfus, lecturer. Did lectures on existentialism
Thanks for the daily upload mr. Medeiros...
Go Julian!
Being someone you'd admire, and acting the way you'd respect will create this never ending moments of fullfillment in my view.
As long as you're on this path of trying to be the person you'd admire and trying to do the actions you respect earns you a lot, some of them are like:
* You will be better than yesterday. Therefore you will have progress which is fulfilling.
* You will have hope, because there is a meaningful tomorrow.
* You will respect yourself, because you are serving what you find valuable
So the answer is "who am I" and "what do I do".
I'm working on a training that is based on "focus" and contains these philosophies.
Brilliant and sweet and clear
One should go from desire to love, not drive.
Hey julian, the audio level has improved with this new angle but I find it to be less visually appealing than the old one, have you considered using a separate microphone for recording? Thanks for the video as always!
Thank you from one julian who enjoys philosophy to another haha
When are you interviewing Zizek sir?
Very interesting (liked and subscribed).
I think this describes where I am in life. I do things that give me meaning, and hopefully give something to others occasionally. I certainly don't do anything for money. Drive though, that's a puzzling one. There are some things I don't quite understand in life (money, gender rules, housing ladders, education ladders, the need for a constant bass beat in every space,....) and drive is one of them.
“It seems to me that one of the scary things about the nihilism of contemporary culture is we are really setting ourselves up for fascism. Because as we empty more and more values and motivating principles.. spiritual principals out of the culture, we are creating a hunger that is gonna.. eventually gonna drive us to the state where we will accept fascism. Just because the nice thing about fascism is they will tell you what to think, they’ll tell you what to do, and they’ll tell you what’s important.“
David Foster Wallace
I love to live in the future when I can clash every thinker to one another ;)
I think the issue I have with your comment is that you say “we” empty our values, I’ve always thought that real “values” aren’t those we choose or don’t choose to believe in it’s more they are just assumed true without discussion. Also I don’t necessarily see how the emptying of values is a set up for fascism, why couldn’t it be a set up for reflection on why values moral and or “spiritual” values ring hallow for us? Where does this come from? Why is this as such? What does value even mean? Who decides value? So many questions, but I might be off on a tangent, it does not mean fascism though, that sounds more like an ideological thing than a genuine potential occurrence.
@@ivancleveland6393 You have verbalized my thought exactly. Sometimes I think that I need to post opposite thoughts to mine and wait for someone to do the work of verbalizing for me ;)
When I encountered this thought I had the same objections to yours. But at the end I completely understand what David was trying to say. It is for me evident in the modern times. It is like on the grid of modern algorithmic solutions to everything are sitting neurological formats of a certain right sided dispositions. I just hope this concoction will not catch flame...Modern times do not edify and it takes time to position oneself in the middle of all of this...
Fascism would be still better than the neo-marxism the whole west has nowadays.
As the great HP Baxxter said: "The chase is better than the catch".
I don't know man. This idea that there is some One True Desire that will make one's life meaningful sounds to me like ideology at its purest (*sniff*).
In short , enjoy the rollercoaster of life
Enjoy the process.
Thanks so much for this!
There’s a bit of a parallel here with Seth Godin’s idea about enjoying the process not the result because all you have control over is the process. Of course Lecan’s idea is a lot deeper and more profound and wider reaching.
thank you! So clear to understand.
Really?? You're a better man than me Gunga Din.
This old wisdome that journey towards happiness in itself is the goal not the achieving it.
Aristotle said that we should do stuff for their own sake and not as a mediums to an end
Jordan Peterson says we should do something meaningful to ourselves and to others
Lacan says we should live for the process
It's interesting how they come up with very similar conclusions
Same with Eastern philosophy as well. It's all about being in the present moment and not clinging to the goal and the outcome. But simply...living and being.
According to the video, Lacan is precisely putting into question our desire for meaning, how can you say it's similar to Jordan Peterson? It's similar in the sense that they're both ideas about life? Well
@@augustoc.s.2455 Jordan Peterson explains how our sense of meaning works from a cognitive and jungian psychology perspective, Lacan explains it too but from a psycoanalitical perspective
Peterson says no goal, no positive emotion by which he means if we are doing something with our time that is not oriented towards a meaningful aim that is valuable to us life will feel meaningless, Lacan would say that which is the highest aim is the object petit a and both Lacan and Peterson agree that the thing that makes us feel we are living a meaningful life is that struggle towards the heights of our aim
Cause, what happens when you achieve a goal? You need another goal
Content creator and not Content-Creator
Step 1: ignore anything Lacan had to say. The end
Zizek has great materialist readings of Lacan.
Step 2: ignore anything Derrida had to day.
To each his own. This exploration into lacan is making it easier for me to safely get in contact with my unconscious life, and saving me $$$ on therapy - I still have therapy for now but my own work & personal development / growth is richer. So as for ignore to each his own. Likewise some people ignore the Bible & religious conventions & are much happier
I think it was implicitly touched upon, but I wonder if we can get a more explicit critique of the C-suite types that embrace the drive of ever greater financial accumulation. First of all, is this embrace of financial accumulation actually invalid? If so, what precisely makes this drive "bad"? It meets much of the criteria: it's futile, can never be completed, and the chase can be the focus; though we hold up an artist's drive as loftier than the financier's. Can someone explain their thoughts on this? My best answer is that the pursuit of money is "invalid" because money is always the external reward to a process, whereas it's the internal rewards of practices that it is more apt to acclimate drive to.
Does it just have to be ONE thing that we dedicate ourselves to? I have a career in which I am growing and to which I am very dedicated; but also a hobby in which I am always growing in and to which I am very dedicated; but also I am very dedicated to my family. I like to think I am pretty good at all three- but admittedly it takes some clever and sometimes uneasy juggling. But I kinda like the mix there. Like they say: variety is the spice of life? What would Lacan say about that?
The audio on this video is a lot better (loud/clear) than the other videos! Idk why maybe because you were really close
brilliant. thanks.
W Lacan
🌞 stay driven
ok, but there is a theory of drives, when u plick one thing does it mean u have to develop one key drive?
like through the lens of one key drive to see and do everything?
like through the lenss of one key drive to see and do everything?
Dear Julian thanks for your great explanations. But if we should go under a transition from desire to drive why does still Lacan says we should be loyal to our desire? I mean why he doesn't say be loyal to your drive and don't give ground on your drive...
I hope you see my question and answer. It is very important to me .
Thanks already ❤❤
This is a great question! Ultimately desire is empty and, like a thirsty man in the desert, it is a mirage. As soon as we think we’ve reached it. And so the only way to sustain the illusion, and thus to remain true to your desire, is to sustain it through drive.
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Thanks for your answer dear Julian
From Iran with love and respect 🙏 ❤️
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Thanks for your answer dear Julian
From Iran with love and respect 🙏 ❤️
If it was so easy everyone would be doing it.
What’s the name of the book?
Is the Mathematician Ramanujun an example of what he is talking about? Ramanujun loved Math and that is the only he cared about. He didn’t desire to be rich nor famous.
I think the way you put it makes it sound like Lacan is a sharlatan selling some sophistic bullshit for people looking for easy answers to difficult questions. I think the formula of not betraying one's own desire does not say that desire is something seemingly so opaque and clear to us as some goal in life like "I always wanted to play guitar but never found the time to do it". We do mostly not now what we desire until we betray it. We do not desire to play guitar one day but we desire to desire it. The moment we betray the desire to desire play guitar one day and do not desire to desire playing guitar anymore, we betray all the dreams of youth and our innocence with it and become cynical business man who find such desires childish and naive, as if we need to punish our former self. Then slowly everything that has to do with guitar begins to bother us, music on the radio triggers symptoms etc.
Or we betray our desire to desire to play guitar one day by playing the guitar one day just to find out that playing the guitar requires way more work than it did when we dreamt about it and all of a sudden we lose interest in playing the guitar and because we betrayed our desire a new symptom emerges: we want to play the banjo one day. This time, hopefully, we won't betray our desire.
And in the end you succumb to the Deleuzo-Guattarian position that desire isn’t lack😶
Is one thing to live and drive for not basically the revolte from absurdism?
I thought the same :)
How to stop life wasting me
Lacan doesn't say don't give up your drive
Life is full of things to do and be. Everyone wastes their lives.
@@Pedro-s4k3y That sounds contradictory.
@@MD-lf3gt It may sound contradictory, but one cannot visit all the countries of the world. To some travelling to places is having a life so they will consider that you have wasted your life because you have travelled to a few places. The same goes to other aspects of life. No matter whatever you do, you have wasted your life.
@@Pedro-s4k3y So you think that life is going to all the places ( impossible) and doing everything ( impossible). That is some weird shit. For me live is love for people, for art, for science, for nature. For finding inner peace.
@@MD-lf3gt Fine, that is life for you. However, the people who disagree with you will think that you have wasted your life in trying to find inner peace. The people who hate people will think that your love for people is wasting your life.
@@Pedro-s4k3y I think according to your theory life is impossible. What a waste!
Progress daily.
It get the idea to go from desire to drive. However, I do not unterstand how one might make one thing the thing to dedicate your life. There is more than 1, unless you use a lot of rhetorical skills to make different things to be one thing. So, with this numbers, I am not convinced.
I watched a video of yours titled “Women Do Not Exist.” I did not understand anything. Do you mean that a woman’s identity cannot exist outside the patriarchal system? Does this mean that it is impossible to form a feminine identity? And why do psychoanalysts oppose gender studies? Don’t they both believe that gender Cultural construction and why all this disagreement? I hope for an answer now, but I have never found a satisfactory answer
I’m struggling with the same thing! I found a dissertation written by Katerina Daniel that was really helpful, though I have yet to fully absorb it. It’s called “dialogues between feminists and jacque lacan on female hysteria and femininity”
A little pretentious but very insightful.
What can it mean to waste a life? It just is.
A good video, but your phrasing about desire is confusing. At first you say Lacan says don't yield ground to your desire, and then you describe someone who wastes his life NOT pursuing what he really wants. Then you say if you DO pursue your desire then you end up in a situation where it becomes void because you get it. Then you get to the "replace desire with drive" thing. And then at the end it's again: don't yield ground to your desire, don't betray your desire. I mean, these are all different things. This is very confusing. By don't yield ground to your desire does Lacan mean do NOT pursue your desire? If so, why then do you say "don't betray your desire"? It would seem like Lacan is precisely recommending betraying your desire by replacing it with drive.
I think these are interesting questions. Perhaps people don't know what their desire is as in embodiment and embracing skills that brings about their desire, including how various life circumstances and situations can cultivate these skills unrelated to the desire itself. Thus this goes along with embrace your drive teaching / philosophy approach
Hunter x Hunter revolves around this idea, it’s a beautiful story
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Tldr ikigai.
Ima write a book called "How to mind your own business"
@@jamieholmes6087 mind it then
@@MD-lf3gt No. Its a free internet.
@@jamieholmes6087 if you really want to mind your own business, don’t be on the internet.
@@jamieholmes6087 Again (maybe after you deleted it from the free internet?): if you want to mind your own business. don’t be on the internet.
@@jamieholmes6087 so I notice. I’m being deleted all the time. Do you do that?
This sounds in a way a lot Like Camus to me 🤔
you can simply pronounce his name as 'Lacahn'
I feel like the algorithm is insulting me lol.
Can't waste something that's already worthless 😁
Money can't buy happiness, but poverty can't buy anyhing.
@@rovic2hacking505 “There’s no success like failure and failure’s no success at all”.
5:39 City Slickers - One Thing - th-cam.com/video/DOjV_YTSp0I/w-d-xo.html. And else is not matters.
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i would prefer not to
Julian de Medei: Lacan!😡
Nonsense
Following Christ
jeez the discourse level is waay below what lacanian psychoanalysis was trying to do....do whatever simplest self-help ramblings you want but don't present it as lacan's thought pls.......
Duh!
Step #1: Have good parents, Step #2: Fit into your country, no matter how corrupt it is
Otherwise your life will be ruined from the beginning.
This is nothing to do with lacan and is absolute rubbish.
Dude, I didn't subscribe to listen to psychoanalytic versions of self-help nonsense. Thought to get occasional refresher on notion or two, because I'm familiar with most authors and works you're talking about here. I don't care what your follwers or patrons expect. There's no point in me explaing further... just a heads up.
...and no one cares why you subscribed for, or what you are expecting.
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Anyone some creative ideas how to foster an desire / drive? 😮🤔
Does the lacan view say something not only about the roots and dynamics of desire and drive but does it have practical implications on how one can stirr up his own desire/drive?🥸