The Genghis Khan Effect in Ireland and Scotland: Niall of the Nine Hostages & Somerled of the Isles

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  • The Genghis Khan Effect in Ireland and Scotland: Niall of the Nine Hostages and Somerled
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    In the early 2000s, researchers from Oxford University found a Y-chromosome with a particular fingerprint that was widespread across Asia, an unusual finding given that Y-chromosomes are generally localized. The explanation for this is that researchers had stumbled across the Y-chromosome from the great khan of the Mongol Empire, Genghis Khan, who ruled during the 13th century.
    On further inspection, it was found that around 8 per cent of men in Mongolia had inherited the Genghis Khan Y-chromosome, and around 16 million throughout Asia. This is hardly surprising given that after conquering a territory, the Mongols would usually kill all men and bring the attractive women to Genghis Khan.
    This reproduction dominance was dubbed the Genghis Khan Effect. But what has any of this got to do with Ireland and Scotland? In Bryan Sykes, the late professor of HG at Oxford, book …, the Genghis Khan Effect could be at work (albeit to a lesser extent) in Ireland and Scotland stemming from two key individuals: Niall of the Nine Hostages and Somerled of the Isles.
    Niall of the Nine Hostages was a semi-mythical High King of Ireland who lived around the 4th and 5th centuries AD, famous for potentially bringing the man that would become St Partrick to Ireland initially as a captive. Y-chromosome tests from Ireland have shown that Niall’s genetic fingerprint is present in large numbers of men with Ui Neill clan surnames - such as Gallagher, Boyle, Doherty, O’Connor, Bradley as well as O’Neill. In the north-west of Ireland, around a quarter or a fifth of the male population has this Y-chromosome signature.
    An equivalent is found in Scotland in the form of Somerled, a Norse-Gaelic lord of the 12th century who established the Kingdom of Argyll and the Isles and who is credited with an expelling the Vikings from western Scotland.
    Sources:
    Irish High King Niall Of The Nine Hostages (Niall Noígíallach) - DNA research - • Irish High King Niall ...
    Bryan Sykes (2007) Saxons, Vikings and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland (W.W Norton and Company: New York).
    The Irish Times - The genetic imprint of Niall of the Nine Hostages www.irishtimes...
    #genghiskhan #history #mongolempire

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  • @celtichistorydecoded
    @celtichistorydecoded  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please let me know your thoughts below...

    • @randyross5630
      @randyross5630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Declaration of Arbraoth was pretty clear, the Scoti Clans were Scythians (I assume picking up some stragglers along the way, just a thought) and Scythia use to rule over Mongolia! From so called Royal Sycthia on the edges of Europe all the way to the Pacific. Now we can make one Simple Leap, throw in one extra integer, the reason why Khan was of enough Social Status to even be their version of a King who made himself Emperor, was because he was a Descendant of the Sycthian Kings. Just think if Sycthia was ruled by a certain people in Royal Sycthia, they very likely made their Major Bloodline the Leadership across the Empire, and since people of higher Status Bred more, over a 1000 years later they are still more likely than your average person to be the leadership in that area. We are talking about this Y Chromosome entering the Isles Centuries before Khan! Those over 100 Scoti Kings so Spoken of in the Declaration of Arbraoth run into the Sycthian Kings, so if X amount of the Royals say they are Sycthians, and have the Same Y Chromosome of the Leadership of a People once Ruled by their Ancestors the Sycthian Kings, than most likely Khan also came from those Sycthian Kings! That's why he had the Social Status at even a chance to Rule because the Leadership under the Sycthians still had x amount of status and power over a 1000 years later, and became Khan. It's simple the True Orginal Scoti Clans were Scythians, their leaders from the Scythian Kings, and Khan came from those same Sycthian Kings that use to Rule over Mongolia. We might find the same past the Mongolian Hierarchy but also in the Turkic Tribes, and many Sultan's already had this Y Chromosome. And listen we are an Anceinct People the Orginal Invading Scoti Clans, Clan Ross was Clan Arias, Aryans, who pick up on the Historical Map coming out of Egypt, but Egypt was just the place to be for so long, allot of people migrated there. Like not all Aryans settled in Iran on their way to India Razing everything on the way and wiping many from the annuals of History, they went in many directions, and we'll most likely find the Aryan, Anceinct Eygptain and Sumerian Kings all had the same Y Chromosome as well, and all come from the same source.

    • @randyross5630
      @randyross5630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simple, the Mongolians and Turks and many others were Sycthians under Rule from who many think of as one of two things but very easily still the same, they were ruled over by the Lost Tribes or Aryans! Who made their Bloodline the Leadership's across this Great Empire from 900BC to 300BC from Royal Sycthia from Eastern Europe to the Pacific! Which in Greece's Golden Age Referred to the Royal Sycthians as the most Advanced! And Simply like as seen in the Scoti Clans with their Leaders still in power from that Bloodline, across what was the Scythian Empire and beyond the Descendants of the Sycthian Kings held onto power and Status enough one became Khan, who this Y Chromosome entered the Isles Centuries before Khan, just like they told you, and have written about, rave about at times I may add. But all these Y Chromosomes just don't go back to just the Sycthian Kings, because this Y Chromosome has been at it, doing this long before Scythia...

    • @randyross5630
      @randyross5630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You understand the Term is Caucasian or at least on US Censuses and the Governmental Term not White or European. It's because most Europeans, weren't there 5000 years ago. Europe was Colonized by so called Caucasians, I say so called because with allot of them, we can't even say they came on just the other side of the Caucasus Mountains because that's just were they Historically 1st get picked up passing through the Caucasus Mountains into Europe, like the Romans, so you say well if the Romans weren't from Europe and just moved in and founded the city of Rome than the Etruscans were the Orginals, but no, they moved in x amount before just like nearly anybody who was anybody. Even the Celts came from over the Caucasus'! Some debate how much of a Population Replacement that was Though and it could of been x amount a Cultural Conquest, but even those people who put that forth have a hard time believing the Hierarchy of the Celts and Druids weren't mostly the Orginals from over the mountains, but by that time anyways, most of those people were already Caucasians who once migrated in, and not Native Europeans, who you can still find traces of, like in Northern Scandinavia for a simple example, and some other areas of Genetic Hold Outs. We are Colonizers, whole lot of us, personally I say we lean into it... And we have been doing this ever since the Last Great Catastrophie! And Probably if you knew, not just the Y Chromosome of our Anceinct Rulers, but just the Guys around them at the Beginning, compared to how many tribes of people there were across the Globe, I'd say we've done pretty well...

    • @randyross5630
      @randyross5630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Y Chromosome in Question is Probably the Bloodline of Noah, from the Bloodline of Adam, and everyone just extends that Whole Story to them, and we all come from Adam, to Noah, but No, that's clearly just one Chromosome and clearly many others but Noah survived the End of the Ice Age, the Great Catastrophe! It makes allot more sense when you take these Grand Stories of a People, and than Understand that's just the Story of the Royals that Rule them, and Understand the Bible through the same scope. But way back when God used to be Pular, as with Satan, and potentially very Terrestrial, and the powers of a Foregone Age before The Last Great Catastrophe! And even if these powers are still acting upon us, it could all just be very Terrestrial and Ancient. We begin the tale at 50,000 years ago when Cromags hit the scene, which modern humans are the biggest part of, but part this and that as well, like Neanderthal, average none African 2.5%, nothing Alien about that. But what if I told you, there was different types of humans around for millions of years before the Cromags, and other Hominids that you can see the bones to fossils of, all documented by Science and Academy as Real, just not enough context and examples to even bother rewritting History on, so the slow March with the Public as they slowly confirm another, and another of different Hominids in our Modern Geno, let alone the others buried on the back shelf not constantly proclaimed to the public the Exsistence of, or at least not yet... So there's nothing in human if let's say these Ancient Kings in Question were the Descendants of Cromags with a pinch of a different Hominid than your average lot that the Ancient once reffered to as God's (because they had ice age tech and knowledge, and good genes) and would Rule them as such, and their Hybrid Off Spring became our Kings and the Bible is the Story of their Bloodline, it at all one bit does not mean Ancient Aliens, it just means Ancient Hominids, that we all come from, as Hybrids and that's been well established, it's just we've been so skewed on Cromag only Point of View starting 50,000 years ago, Dismissing everyone else as idiots, even though we are Hybrids with them, and Hybrids Originally from a collection of Hominids anyways to start with, that we Dismiss the True Vastness of the Human Race going back past a Million Years. But as soon as you add in all that Great Catastrophies along the way, you'd understand why the bulk of the Population was smashed back to the Stone Age, and without being in an extremely remote place not effected by such events no one has stories going back past 10,000 years but the Aboriginies in Australia and the Sort. But that doesn't mean Humans weren't up to all the same things before that, or other Hominids to some level below or beyond before us... I've seen allot of Hominoid (not Hominids, Hominoids) Bones and Fossil buried away in the depths of human knowledge Intentionally I might add, that look like people's so called Aliens, and regardless of Vastly Different Hominids, mostly Cromags with ice age tech Pretending to be God's, or Grey Aliens nothing yet has told me Extraterrestrial, instead of something else from the Vastness of Earth's Past already Academically Documented, but classified at talk about this, we take your career and pension. And just going their, because I see the stirring thoughts in the Population about Ancient Aliens, and as soon as you go the full length into the story of that Y Chromosome, that's what people think, but I think, no matter how off the Standard Public Narrative the Truth is, it's still very Terrestrial and I'm not classifying anyone as Aliens, as some would love to Fancy, the Royal Bloodlines are this and that, and lizards... But what I do think, they (we) might have 1% a different Hominid in us than you do, some people are 20% Neanderthal while their brother might not even be half, ontop of other Hominids, all Humans, that Compromise us with the major part being Cromag. But we are at the point some in Society would take a different Hominid that we could and did bred I, other Humans! As Aliens! Specially if they made the Pyramids or other similar things (which were clearly done during the ice age or with ice age knowledge). And I'm not trying to Fuel that, while to many my comments above would do nothing less.

    • @Angel200929
      @Angel200929 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the Y-DNA R1A or R1B and Mtdna H1/5/6 or HVO

  • @ZeroChange144
    @ZeroChange144 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    According to “23 and me” my dna test results links me to having share a paternal-line ancestor with Niall of the Nine
    Hostages. R-M269 hopefully if there’s any inheritance that qualifies me$$😂, also I’m from Puerto Rican descent but there is plenty of green eyes , blond hair, freckles in the bloodline, lots of strong connections with Celtic hailing from Spain Galicia

  • @chungus_khan
    @chungus_khan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is *right up* my alley
    *pulls up chair & gets comfortable*
    😎

  • @garethwigglesworth8187
    @garethwigglesworth8187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bit random but just had my ancestry dna test results today. I'm 31% Scottish. Who knew. I have never visited, that is something I shall have to remedy

    • @hopefulperson9057
      @hopefulperson9057 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Direct quote from Braveheart, "that's something I have to remedy" 😂😂😂

  • @Jibcutter
    @Jibcutter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm an active project administrator of the Ó Dochartaigh Y-DNA Surname Project and a co-administrator of the Dal Cuinn Teóra Connachta and the Uí Néill Project at FTDNA. Although we are simple enthusiasts and citizen scientists, it is rather interesting growing the Y-DNA database with NGS testing and seeing how the surname clusters genetically look relative to the medieval genealogies. The best, current 'guess' on what Niall's most terminal SNP would have been is R1b-ZZ87.

  • @occidentadvocate.9759
    @occidentadvocate.9759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another brilliant short video. Iv read about these two men before. Im 85% Scots/ Irish DNA myself. These two could well be in my Ancestry. 👍

    • @MAKDÁVID-KRIŽ
      @MAKDÁVID-KRIŽ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am a Hungarian just as my wife and this clans are directly related to us Royal Irish clan Ryan and Dwyer
      Royal Scottish clan Armstrong,Cathcart,Weir,Murray,Abercrombie,Dundas,Watson,Wishart,Donnachaidh,Abernathy,Rutherford,Falconer,Hay,Sutherland…like some other tribes in a bit more distant way.

    • @MAKDÁVID-KRIŽ
      @MAKDÁVID-KRIŽ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nick Gir Rus in Hungarian is Orosz where O is more of a Ó as Óld which actually makes sense as Ó’Rosz since Ros is known Gælic group which made its way to Scotland but also left a huge mark in Italy where Rossini is a common surname where Ros(Rus)Sini(Son) is just one of many proofs that Indo-Iran speakers aka SLav-SLöwen where once Gælic groups who with adoption of Greeko-Jewish Orthodoxy have lost they E Van(Von) Gælic identity meaning they don’t see themselves as a AnGeL-AnGaelic 👼 people.

  • @Haterofvictimmentality
    @Haterofvictimmentality 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My DNA test says I’m descended from Niall of the Nine Hostages.

  • @davidedadamo3703
    @davidedadamo3703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting!
    Keep the work up

  • @jamessheehy2752
    @jamessheehy2752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I descend from Sommerled

  • @Mary420Jen4
    @Mary420Jen4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Content 🔥🔥

  • @brendaWong77
    @brendaWong77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Curious but if they don't have his DNA how can anyone claim that so many people are related to Khan

    • @chungus_khan
      @chungus_khan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He had kids that had kids that had kids, so like; they've (allegedly) got traces of his dna, perhaps...🤔

    • @chungus_khan
      @chungus_khan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brendaWong77 They never found his body; they have his (alleged) descendants bodies.

  • @MrResearcher122
    @MrResearcher122 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Old Grandad, with both a Cannon/ Gallacher heritage in Donegal, must have been a descendant of Neil of the Nine Hostages. I never knew the Connaught O'Connors were also sons of Neil.

  • @oxon8871
    @oxon8871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A dominant Y chromosome would not just point to the 'activities' of the apex ancestor, such as Genghis, himself, but also to that of his sons and grandsons, etc. down the line. Power begets power, and many of these male offspring will have had early advantages in life leading to their rise to power in turn. Many other families will have wanted to marry into that privileged line in later generations. So, genetic results like these can't just be laid at the doorstep of an original harem, itself a hallmark of extreme patriarchy.

  • @derekheron5336
    @derekheron5336 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a Scotsman my family my originated in Galloway southwest Scotland . Overall d.n.a is 61 %irish 39%scottish . Paternal y d.n.a is RM269/Rm222 which comes from a male line in inishowen donegal in the 4th century which turns out to be king Niall of the nine hostage's . Proud of my Scottish Irish ancestry our history is amazing 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🇮🇪

  • @curtisobrien9966
    @curtisobrien9966 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am a decendant 23 and me informed me

    • @curtisobrien9966
      @curtisobrien9966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also I am a complete genetic freak of nature. Not just saying this .. smart. Extremely muscular, Strong, fast, brave and handsome

  • @akendall75
    @akendall75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I live in America (Indiana) and I have the marker for Niall.

    • @brucecollins641
      @brucecollins641 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @akendall75....how can you a dna from a man who never existed.

    • @akendall75
      @akendall75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brucecollins641
      Ask 23 and me

    • @akendall75
      @akendall75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brucecollins641
      Give me your email and I’ll send you what they sent me.

    • @akendall75
      @akendall75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brucecollins641
      th-cam.com/users/shortsvTOsNViHPOg?si=2SD8gpj9e_01w9QM

    • @akendall75
      @akendall75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brucecollins641
      Every time I reply, the reply gets removed.

  • @JosephAri-x3z
    @JosephAri-x3z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm haplogroup naill the haplogroup go's way beyond him by his ancestors but my thinking bell beaker people are my ancestors physical characteristics like round skull and other characteristics I don't know about my father but I know enough about the history of the haplogroup Irish 2 percent Scottish 33 percent all I know is bell beaker haplogroup Gaelic haplogroup celtic bell beaker 😂 ?????

  • @dillonconners586
    @dillonconners586 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ..... is that why im .1% Mongolian according to 23 & me?

  • @phearlesspharaoh3697
    @phearlesspharaoh3697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found out i was genetically related to Niall… then i looked it up in my genealogy and also found him! However I’m only 9% Irish. 😎

  • @Epidian
    @Epidian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Billy Connolly told a joke about Genghis McCann years ago.

  • @Clans_Dynasties
    @Clans_Dynasties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video mate

  • @GriffsFish
    @GriffsFish ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this y chromosome my father got his DNA tested

  • @wallymckinnon7475
    @wallymckinnon7475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm one. I just found out.

  • @Angel200929
    @Angel200929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What chromosomes is it?

  • @paddyo3841
    @paddyo3841 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe ghenghis khan was descended from Niall … some say ghenghis was actually redhead

  • @azariahisrael5632
    @azariahisrael5632 ปีที่แล้ว

    I decend from the MacDougalls of Dunoille, the Macdonald's of Glengarry, Sleat, and Ragnall of Castle Tioram. These all are branches from John Macdonald King of the Isles of Islay, a decendant of Somerled and husband of Margaret Stewart daughter of King Robert II: decendant of Robert the Bruce, The Plantagenets, Llewellyn the Great, the High Kings of Ireland, amd many others...Its impossible to be a Macdonald decendant without also having MacLeod ancestors, decendants of Olaf the Black King of Dublin and Isle of Mann, due to intermarriage. I would also think it to be impossible for the same people not have Sinclair ancestors from the Earls of Orkney who are decendants of Ragnar Lothbrok and his sons. I know and understand because they are my ancestors...Soon everyone will know.

  • @kathywolf4558
    @kathywolf4558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A question: How did the Campbell's obtain Argyll if Somerled established Argyll?

    • @Clans_Dynasties
      @Clans_Dynasties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colin Campbell was Earl of Argyll in 1457 after the MacDonalds had fought against the King

    • @kathywolf4558
      @kathywolf4558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Clans_Dynasties Thank you!!

  • @forbesmeek6304
    @forbesmeek6304 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also have the Niall DNA. No Irish at all, Springburn but. 😅

  • @davidbulman2889
    @davidbulman2889 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always suspected it.

  • @ruadhagainagaidheal9398
    @ruadhagainagaidheal9398 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Billy Conolly’s story about Gengis MacCann !

  • @JosephAri-x3z
    @JosephAri-x3z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your video

  • @richiezed
    @richiezed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had to do a lot of research on Somerled once I found out I was closely related to his Y Dna line.Which seems to be by way of the MacDougals. This is the link from Somerled to my DNA
    Me being RCTS4179 - R1a1a1b1a3a1a (CTS3438) It's been quite a journey to find my Scottish roots in my Y DNA.
    Royal haplogroup: R1a1a1b1a3a1a1a
    MATCH! Subclade distance: 2
    Scottish Royalty
    Ancestral Seat: Dundonald Castle
    Somerled of Argyll (1100-1164)

    • @nmatthew7469
      @nmatthew7469 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      MacDougals were the gallowglas warriors. Family member married a McDougal and their son was a giant at age 15, 6'4", lol, those genes show up down the line.

  • @Tyler.i.81
    @Tyler.i.81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude you look very Scottish

  • @Angel200929
    @Angel200929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or Y-dna and Mtdna Haplogroup

  • @lochlainnmacneill2870
    @lochlainnmacneill2870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video by the way.

  • @StraightOuttaCrofton
    @StraightOuttaCrofton ปีที่แล้ว

    I searched for Niall because he came up on my 23andme.

    • @titgorf
      @titgorf ปีที่แล้ว

      me too!

  • @mrderek271
    @mrderek271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The king nial d.n.a is very common in Galloway in Scotland and argyll the rm222 gene .

    • @brucecollins641
      @brucecollins641 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mrderek271.....am baffled how you can have the dna of a mythical person.

  • @lochlainnmacneill2870
    @lochlainnmacneill2870 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had my DNA done by two companies, the second one, 'Scotland's People' and both resulted in the exact same. Direct descendant of Niall. Makes sense of my surname and paternal side from Tiree.

  • @Gudha_Ismintis
    @Gudha_Ismintis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the reason for Irish having that famous 'short temper'