I absolutely love twin fins! Being a fairly large dude ( 6’4”, 235lbs ) I found putting a nub ( 2” ) fin in the tail as a third fin makes a huge difference! Still get the twinny experience without the slipperyness.
I've got a fish with the tail plug in the middle right behind the fins, and what I started doing was using the leash saver as my faux kick pad to let me know where my foot needs to be. Definitely can't jam my back foot into it like a kickpad, but still kind of works as a reference point when I want to crank out a turn. Excited to see the rest of the series, keep them coming! Yeeeeeew!
Don't know if it's going to be one of the boards tested, but I can say that the Christenson Fish is a winner. No bulshit, just a helluva fast board. And soooo maneuverable. My goto board these days. Cheers!
I love this twin fin serie concept, for my twins I use flat pads that I cut around the leash plug to be able to put my foot far back where I want. You definitely need a side plug !
Thanks for the video's Kale. I had my first twin made for me in 2003 - 5'7". Made it from a Donald Takayama template, we put some concave under the front foot, it was amazing how it felt like the board would just push forward. Sourced the original 5"x7" Steve Lis fins--glassed those in. Many years later I got rid of my 7'6" semi-gun and my thruster and exclusively surfed this board in the point breaks of Santa Cruz. Went with the tailpad...when I pushed really hard on the bottom turn, the tailpad saves the longevity of the board.
Hi Kale, can you share your sizes with us? Height and weight? Do you think one should get a surfboard with 2 litres-ish more for when surfing with a wet suit?
Hi Kale I really enjoy watching your board reviews.I want to get a twin fin Fish to surf small to head high waves. I’m debating in getting the Christenson Fish or The Album light bender. I’m presently an intermediate surfer getting back into surfing due to past health issues. Im 5’9 and 80Kg. Would greatly appreciate your opinion on comparing these 2 boards please. Thank you Aloha Carl
As always, great insights...it looked like if you just moved the tailpad back you'd be in business but would love to see a Christenson twinnie thrown into the mix - I ride a Black Baron and can report that board is so faaassssttt!!
Back in 2000 I shaped a 5’ 9” twinny with glass on keel fins, retro shape but modern rails, I loved it so much I’ve always had a twin fin ever since. Current favourite is a 6’ 1” Form ADPT shaped by local surfer Alan Stokes, good in all surf… but I’ve been looking at the Merrick 6’ 4” Twin Pin’s for lumpy stuff, as I’m getting to be an old man now.
Make sure to try an MR 80’s model with glass on fins. I’m sure you will find it to be everything you are looking for in a twin fin. By far the best twin fin I have ever ridden.
i used to not use a pad on my fishes but i press so hard on the ball of my foot at times i actually cant surf for a few days after a while. i just take a razor blade and trim away everything so its flat, but there are companies who are making decent fish pads as well. once i started using a pad i haven't had as many issues with my back foot, issue is still there but no where near as bad. pads long term help keep your back foot from getting that extra bone growth from the constant stress of focusing all that energy into a small area of your foot. look at noel salas foot, he's had surgery i think maybe twice now.
good episode for kale which can provide a lot of information for the surfer to make references of buying a twin fin surfboard. Looking forward to see the next episode XD
you gotta try the future fin set called AMT. it's a twin +1 set up and is the best set of fins for a fish style board. it's the best combination of a twin and tri set of fins combined. I ride it in my 5'11"pyzel happy twin and my 5'11"pyzel ghost.
@@thestow35 I can imagine that fin set up would work well with that board for sure. I'm normally not a big fan of twin fins but this is such a great hybrid set up, really the best of both styles.
I use these in my CI Rocketwide as a twin + 1 and it has been the best set up in that board to date. I've tried a bunch of different fins in the RW, but I keep coming back to these because they just work in this board. Getting a Blackbird performance twin shaped by Tim Crozier and will be curious to see how these fins work in that board.
@@RuRuRarRar worked surprisingly well. My ghost is a 5'11" and I kept it as a 2+1. It had a ton of drive for take off speed and control but a perfect degree of release thru turns and snaps. And that was in a dumpy 3 to 4ft beach break. The set up works like magic in my pyzel happy twin in everything from mush beachie stuff to my local point break when it's 6ft +. I even ended up buying a second set of the fins just to have for other boards and friends to try. By far one of if not the best set of fins I've had since the release of the original K 2.1 from the late 90s early 00s. I spend 15yrs work in the surf industry and have tried everything I could get my hands on and this is definitely a winner.
Great series but it must be difficult to compare models in fairly average surf. The fish type models will obviously perform better in junky surf while the narrow tail models will generally feel sluggish comparatively. I have a CI Twin Pin that is very sluggish in average waves but lights up once it gets a bit sucky.
Stoked on the review from Kale! Just bought a PU HK Twin with FCS modern Keels at 5'9 32.7L (I'm 82kg and 6'1). I wouldn't have bought it new otherwise. Had two short burns on it in 2-5ft waves: it's already a revelation, but I'm still dialing in how to sink rail because it kind of floats going fast. The back foot sweet spot is pretty far back (just forward of the leash plug), so I put a traction pad with a kicker lined up over it. 5 star board for sure; I doubt I'll ride anything else unless it's super hollow or tiny.
Noel Salas @ Surf N Show had a similar problem with the Hayden Shapes Miscellaneous as you did with the Chili... I believe Hayden moved the leash plug after speaking with Noel. Maybe James will do the same. I did not see a Peppa Twin on any Chili website. Is it a new model? Love these best board series of videos. Can't wait for the next heat of models.
Hey Kale, would a twin fin be a good choice to sit below a inferno 72 for smaller weaker waves or would a twin fin be more for a different feel of surfing a wave?
I have the Inferno 72 for good days but I ordered the Chris Fish for smaller days and the lane splitter to fill in the gaps. I'd say I'm covered all the way up to 7ft waves.
@kale you ever think that almost every board has its day? One day on my old 5'2 mini it's the best board I've ever had, some other days, not so much, and so on and on with te RNF, HK, PJ etc. Just an ideaa!
I'd love to hear your opinion on the Jimmy Lewis Rocket. I loved it when I demo'd it but i'm only intermediate and don't have experience on a lot of other boards to compare.
May i ask why you never tried the MOTE Fiji board? I think it would be an essential board to at least try, not sure if it would suit your surf style and perhaps make it to the best options you may present, but at least a try and review video would be much appreciated
@@KalesBroccoli That's unfortunate, I've got a MR Retro pro and it goes well in shoulder to head high surf. Really hold rail well on big arcs with its hard defined rail running most the length of the board. Keep up the great work 🤙
Kale, this question has nothing to do with this video I had trouble finding put how to pm you. I am a shortboarder who surfs at a longboard and, uncoincedentally, a beginner spot. I find myself in these surfers line. They sometimes are staring straight at me and therfore heading straight for me. I find myself mouthing.. "look where you want to head!" "Or dont look at me!" I cant be way out where they are so i line up right next to their drop.. How can I be in the lineup (my own) with longboarders and not feel like I might get seriously injured?
Hi Kale! I have been watching your reviews and I would like to ask if you plan on reviwing the RNF96 from Lost. Congratulations for the amaing videos you are making!
You haven't tried or tested Bushman's flow model twin fin with built in keels ....... Best twin fin ever let alone best board been experimenting 2007 religiously!
Another Awesome review mate! Cant wait for Test #2. - BTW, if you have a Twin with trailer, where would you put your foot on? a bit further back behind the fins?
Hey Kale, I will be honest.... lots of twinnies but you are surfing pretty much as you were riding a thruster. Surfing is like music... when the music changes style, you should dance differently
Prices! Prices! Prices! 1 STCY: Bullet Twin 5' 7" = $795.00 2. ChilliSurfboards: Peppa Twin 5'7" = $725.00 3. HaydenShapes: HK Twin 5'5" = $795.00 I think these are their current prices? I won't purchase a board in this price range but if you have the cash; go for it! Hopefully, Kale will review some affordable foam or foam hybrids in another video. 😊👍
"...siding with our Australian partners" So by process of elimination and assuming it's an American company, either Pyzel or ...Lost Mayhem were too jaded by the last board test you did and didn't send boards 😂
Love the fact you have let us know that some brands didn't want to give you boards....appreciate the honesty
I absolutely love twin fins! Being a fairly large dude ( 6’4”, 235lbs ) I found putting a nub ( 2” ) fin in the tail as a third fin makes a huge difference! Still get the twinny experience without the slipperyness.
Kale, great job and I cannot wait until the rest of the serie.
Thank you!
I've got a fish with the tail plug in the middle right behind the fins, and what I started doing was using the leash saver as my faux kick pad to let me know where my foot needs to be. Definitely can't jam my back foot into it like a kickpad, but still kind of works as a reference point when I want to crank out a turn.
Excited to see the rest of the series, keep them coming! Yeeeeeew!
🙌🏽
Looking forward to part 2. Just picked up a McNeill RTT but haven't ridden it yet, hope one's being evaluated.
Really nice! Can't wait for the best midlength series! (or did I miss that😳)
You did not since I made thr same request after his last board review series
Isn’t it the Thunderbolt HI/Tolhurst Mid6 7’0” by Firewire?!?
That board is out of stock everywhere. Swift off the shelf 💨
Check out the raglan surf report he does a really good one!
Don't know if it's going to be one of the boards tested, but I can say that the Christenson Fish is a winner. No bulshit, just a helluva fast board. And soooo maneuverable. My goto board these days. Cheers!
yes would be nice to see a Pegaso in this comparison!
I have a CC fish, love it!
I've had about 10 twins and that was my least favourite funnily enough, I don't get the love for this board.
Good on forehand but dog shit backside
I love this twin fin serie concept, for my twins I use flat pads that I cut around the leash plug to be able to put my foot far back where I want. You definitely need a side plug !
😍🙏🏽🎊
MY HK twin also has a stupidly placed leash plug. I noticed it on Craigs review as well.
Thanks for the video's Kale. I had my first twin made for me in 2003 - 5'7". Made it from a Donald Takayama template, we put some concave under the front foot, it was amazing how it felt like the board would just push forward. Sourced the original 5"x7" Steve Lis fins--glassed those in. Many years later I got rid of my 7'6" semi-gun and my thruster and exclusively surfed this board in the point breaks of Santa Cruz. Went with the tailpad...when I pushed really hard on the bottom turn, the tailpad saves the longevity of the board.
😍 yes awesome! I am stomping through a few rails haha
Hi Kale, can you share your sizes with us? Height and weight?
Do you think one should get a surfboard with 2 litres-ish more for when surfing with a wet suit?
Hi Kale
I really enjoy watching your board reviews.I want to get a twin fin Fish to surf small to head high waves. I’m debating in getting the Christenson Fish or The Album light bender.
I’m presently an intermediate surfer getting back into surfing due to past health issues. Im 5’9 and 80Kg. Would greatly appreciate your opinion on comparing these 2 boards please.
Thank you
Aloha
Carl
As always, great insights...it looked like if you just moved the tailpad back you'd be in business but would love to see a Christenson twinnie thrown into the mix - I ride a Black Baron and can report that board is so faaassssttt!!
Back in 2000 I shaped a 5’ 9” twinny with glass on keel fins, retro shape but modern rails, I loved it so much I’ve always had a twin fin ever since. Current favourite is a 6’ 1” Form ADPT shaped by local surfer Alan Stokes, good in all surf… but I’ve been looking at the Merrick 6’ 4” Twin Pin’s for lumpy stuff, as I’m getting to be an old man now.
Curious as to which fins you are using, there are so many great twin templates out there. Captain fin NPJ + Chipa Wilson are my top ones
The quality of your videos and editing has improved a lot recently. Well done.
Just got a twinsman so i hope its here again and it does well!
Haha
Is there a part 2 out yet?🤙
Cheers for the ripper content Kale. Keen to see who takes out top twin fin.
I swear part 2 was up but can’t seem to find it anymore
Next Tuesday 🙏🏽
Epic video, been waiting for the twin battle. Definitely would've liked to have seen the Christenson Fish in there though.
More episodes
really great review ! Thank you so much Kale ! Can't wait for the next episode ! :D
Make sure to try an MR 80’s model with glass on fins. I’m sure you will find it to be everything you are looking for in a twin fin. By far the best twin fin I have ever ridden.
i used to not use a pad on my fishes but i press so hard on the ball of my foot at times i actually cant surf for a few days after a while. i just take a razor blade and trim away everything so its flat, but there are companies who are making decent fish pads as well. once i started using a pad i haven't had as many issues with my back foot, issue is still there but no where near as bad. pads long term help keep your back foot from getting that extra bone growth from the constant stress of focusing all that energy into a small area of your foot. look at noel salas foot, he's had surgery i think maybe twice now.
Those T&C boards have always looked so appealing to me :o
Epic mate! Keep ‘em coming! Cheers 🍻
good episode for kale which can provide a lot of information for the surfer to make references of buying a twin fin surfboard. Looking forward to see the next episode XD
Really important to test a wide variety of fins to find the right ones to pair, if it were me I would have used different fins than you did
you gotta try the future fin set called AMT. it's a twin +1 set up and is the best set of fins for a fish style board. it's the best combination of a twin and tri set of fins combined. I ride it in my 5'11"pyzel happy twin and my 5'11"pyzel ghost.
my favourite fins, too. I use them with my Greedy Beaver
@@thestow35 I can imagine that fin set up would work well with that board for sure. I'm normally not a big fan of twin fins but this is such a great hybrid set up, really the best of both styles.
I use these in my CI Rocketwide as a twin + 1 and it has been the best set up in that board to date. I've tried a bunch of different fins in the RW, but I keep coming back to these because they just work in this board. Getting a Blackbird performance twin shaped by Tim Crozier and will be curious to see how these fins work in that board.
How’d a twin or twin plus one setup go in the ghost? I would expect ok with that long rail outline to pin tail.
@@RuRuRarRar worked surprisingly well. My ghost is a 5'11" and I kept it as a 2+1. It had a ton of drive for take off speed and control but a perfect degree of release thru turns and snaps. And that was in a dumpy 3 to 4ft beach break. The set up works like magic in my pyzel happy twin in everything from mush beachie stuff to my local point break when it's 6ft +. I even ended up buying a second set of the fins just to have for other boards and friends to try. By far one of if not the best set of fins I've had since the release of the original K 2.1 from the late 90s early 00s. I spend 15yrs work in the surf industry and have tried everything I could get my hands on and this is definitely a winner.
Great series but it must be difficult to compare models in fairly average surf. The fish type models will obviously perform better in junky surf while the narrow tail models will generally feel sluggish comparatively. I have a CI Twin Pin that is very sluggish in average waves but lights up once it gets a bit sucky.
Absolutely
Don’t worry more variety and better waves coming!
Love the series Kale. Did you get custom dimensions for the HK Twin? - The dimensions on the HS website are different.
Stoked on the review from Kale! Just bought a PU HK Twin with FCS modern Keels at 5'9 32.7L (I'm 82kg and 6'1). I wouldn't have bought it new otherwise. Had two short burns on it in 2-5ft waves: it's already a revelation, but I'm still dialing in how to sink rail because it kind of floats going fast. The back foot sweet spot is pretty far back (just forward of the leash plug), so I put a traction pad with a kicker lined up over it. 5 star board for sure; I doubt I'll ride anything else unless it's super hollow or tiny.
So much variety in twins, hope you can make sense of it :)
Look pretty sharp on Town and country !!
Great job like your channel. You make some great points. Cheers
The T&C saint is by far my favourite board, it definitely appreciates a better wave and a set of power twins to match
its funny that Stormie is in this video! he is one of my mates, keep up the sick content kale!!🤙
Love your content ! Bring in the next episode !
nice work bro good to see u giving to a good cause
Noel Salas @ Surf N Show had a similar problem with the Hayden Shapes Miscellaneous as you did with the Chili... I believe Hayden moved the leash plug after speaking with Noel. Maybe James will do the same. I did not see a Peppa Twin on any Chili website. Is it a new model? Love these best board series of videos. Can't wait for the next heat of models.
Interesting!
I think it’s coming soon!
Hey Kale, would a twin fin be a good choice to sit below a inferno 72 for smaller weaker waves or would a twin fin be more for a different feel of surfing a wave?
Both! Depends on the shape
I have the Inferno 72 for good days but I ordered the Chris Fish for smaller days and the lane splitter to fill in the gaps. I'd say I'm covered all the way up to 7ft waves.
7:03. It sure seems like keels with their wide bases would make the board a lot stiffer.
I would love that Town& Country it so beautiful old skool way
@kale you ever think that almost every board has its day? One day on my old 5'2 mini it's the best board I've ever had, some other days, not so much, and so on and on with te RNF, HK, PJ etc. Just an ideaa!
I'd love to hear your opinion on the Jimmy Lewis Rocket. I loved it when I demo'd it but i'm only intermediate and don't have experience on a lot of other boards to compare.
will you be riding a js and dhd mini twin?
You can never please everyone. Keep doing you 🤍
Interesting video. I’m hoping that Album gets a run in this series
Next episode 🤙🏽
Hey Kale, I've done my own twin fin board test with the same boards as you, but I can't seem to find the "on" button on any of them...
It’s just back behind the fins Michael
@@KalesBroccoli Needle in a haystack. I'll keep looking.
May i ask why you never tried the MOTE Fiji board? I think it would be an essential board to at least try, not sure if it would suit your surf style and perhaps make it to the best options you may present, but at least a try and review video would be much appreciated
100% agree. Would love to see the Fiji reviewed. That board looks incredible (obviously seeing Torren Martyn ripping on it doesn’t hurt either).
We tried. No response from MOTE
@@KalesBroccoliBummer. Thanks for trying.
Loved it! Thank you, Kale! Pyzel dropping their twin fin too late. Looks like this will have to be a new annual series ;)
They didn’t want to be involved!
Thanks!! :)
@@KalesBroccoli That’s a shame. I need my Kale stamp of approval!
Awesome new series Kale!
But why no M.R twins the godfather of the twin fin!! Surely they need to get a look in?
They declined to be involved
@@KalesBroccoli
That's unfortunate, I've got a MR Retro pro and it goes well in shoulder to head high surf. Really hold rail well on big arcs with its hard defined rail running most the length of the board.
Keep up the great work 🤙
Kale, this question has nothing to do with this video I had trouble finding put how to pm you. I am a shortboarder who surfs at a longboard and, uncoincedentally, a beginner spot. I find myself in these surfers line. They sometimes are staring straight at me and therfore heading straight for me. I find myself mouthing.. "look where you want to head!" "Or dont look at me!" I cant be way out where they are so i line up right next to their drop.. How can I be in the lineup (my own) with longboarders and not feel like I might get seriously injured?
Part and parcel I’m afraid. You must get good at navigating if that’s where you want to surf 🙏🏽🤙🏽
Love this. Good shit bro.
That HK twin looks river surf ready! Sick Vid!
Loving these shootouts. How about a performance fish shootout?
Same same
@@KalesBroccoli 😆
13:03 What a LAD
Let’s gooo the real stab in the dark is finally back!
Hi Kale! I have been watching your reviews and I would like to ask if you plan on reviwing the RNF96 from Lost. Congratulations for the amaing videos you are making!
Lost declined to be involved :)
Why not testing the Rusty twin fin ?
Look like a hell of a board !!!
Sick video man! The hypto krypto looked so good under your feet
Frothing
Can your tell us your height and weight so we can see how these boards size up to you please?
This in time and include the new pyzel twin pin?
You haven't tried or tested Bushman's flow model twin fin with built in keels ....... Best twin fin ever let alone best board been experimenting 2007 religiously!
Nice Nice Nice!! Love this project!!
Can I have one when you’re done
No
Bravo Broccoletto, ottimo lavoro!
Recommended fins for a twinsman?
Rasta
Can’t wait to see how that T&C Saint goes! YEW! I’m liking this series!
Any chance you’re reviewing the CI Free Scrubber twinny?
Twin pin 🙏🏽
@@KalesBroccoli wish you were doing the fish beard as well as the twin pin
Hi everyone, could somebody tell me if the Chilli (peppa twin) already came out because i cannot find it anywhere on their website or on google
Dig it.... performance twin is maybe the hardest one to get right in your quiver.
have you ever tested a Jim banks or Gary McNeil
sick as per usual
I have an Alva twin fin
Love the vid but where is the black/red baron!!!!
Ep 3
@@KalesBroccoli awesome! cheers
Name and shame!!!
Great vid ✌️
quadddds next bruv!
Hoping to see a DVS hydrohull 🤞
Need the DHD the twin and fishbeard from CI
Even if he doesn't supply a board for the test, you need to interview MR for this series. Because MR.
Reached out early on and no response
@@KalesBroccoli at least you tried. The great man is hard to catch.
Another Awesome review mate! Cant wait for Test #2. - BTW, if you have a Twin with trailer, where would you put your foot on? a bit further back behind the fins?
Maybe a touch further back to drive off that middle fin?
how can you coach me if i live and surf in California usa?
thesurfersroadmap.com
I wonder if Mark Richards is please the twin fin has made a comeback? Perhaps Chrystal Cylinder will return as well for those older enough to know. 🤟😁
Missing Will's Fish :)
A twin test with no Morning of The Earth? Ha, good. I'm tired of seeing every TH-camr cut in front of me on his 2 year long wait list lol
What happen to testing at a wave pool, like you did before?
Evolution
When is the next episode kale ?
Tuesday :)
and what about part 2 mate?
Bet its going to be another win for MOTE
Hey Kale, I will be honest.... lots of twinnies but you are surfing pretty much as you were riding a thruster.
Surfing is like music... when the music changes style, you should dance differently
Show us the way Bruna
@@KalesBroccoli i think he wants to see more speed/flow and sweeping cutbacks, less hacks at the lip like youre surfing a heat
What's your height and weight for reference. Surfing Sawty yew! You must have been lucky to find a sunny day.
Just got into the vid and after that statement I’m guessing I won’t be seeing a lost or pyzel 😝
I really like you jod Kale, I would live closer to Australia..
Hug from Spain friend💪
look whos surfing has improved, claps
Is the RNF 96’ going to be in this test? I want one but I’m not sure about it.
Check out Shaping Co from tweeds head Australia he makes sick blades even one for Creed
did you say how much you weigh in the video or did i miss that?
follow up do you feel like ALL twins should run more volume like album suggests or just their boards?
No MR
if you gona pick a MR , choose de 2Super Twin Model.
MR is “almost” the inventer of the Twin.
Waiting for episode 2
MR cali twin or the lost RNF????
They declined
sadly you couldn't test the wildcat from pyzel
They declined.
Prices! Prices! Prices!
1 STCY: Bullet Twin 5' 7" = $795.00
2. ChilliSurfboards: Peppa Twin 5'7" = $725.00
3. HaydenShapes: HK Twin 5'5" = $795.00
I think these are their current prices? I won't purchase a board in this price range but if you have the cash; go for it! Hopefully, Kale will review some affordable foam or foam hybrids in another video. 😊👍
Unless you want your boards made in sweatshops in China or Thailand you’re out of luck
$795 is cheap at the current prices boards are going for. Most surfboards are now $1000
"...siding with our Australian partners" So by process of elimination and assuming it's an American company, either Pyzel or ...Lost Mayhem were too jaded by the last board test you did and didn't send boards 😂
Doesn’t sound like the kind of thing Pyzel would say
No comment 😂
@@xWaxxy and definitely does sound like the kind of thing Matt would say :)
power to the people!
@@hoboandhobo crazy, cause the MR Cali twin and the RNF 96 are supposed to be great boards. Surprised they didn't have more faith in their shapes lol